His problem is that he knows basically nothing about anything and just regurgitates talking points he got from internet discourse. See: Any debate he did
And his community just encourages him to do so. While admittedly it isn't a lot, every video I've seen of Xan's has both him and his community talking about how right he is all the time and how he predicted x or y.
The fact that his community talks about how he’s always right and ignores how often he’s wrong makes him no better than a slightly left wing version of Alex Jones
This whole shoe saga has got to be one of the more petty and dumb dramas we’ve had in a while. Of which, Xan absolutely 100% did not need to make public at all
I actually was watching the xan stream when the theyfab talk started, and I watched him push back against people who were saying this term is used to disparage some people. Audience members were debating the point but he remained on the side that it is just not used that way. Arguing with these people while totally ignorant.
It kind of sucks how... well, shitty, Xanderhal has been recently. We're around the same age, and both went down the alt-right pipeline when we were younger (him further than I) because of the same Minecraft server (small world!). His early videos about how he got radicalized are great. Unfortunately, I feel like what happened with Lani (his ex) has made him think he has carte blanche to act however he pleases in the space, and it's rough to watch.
I thought the same thing too. All the drama that happened with the Though Slime'a fake sex cult allegations, the awful DJ Muel hitpiece and the personal drama piled up to him in a really unhealthy manner, resulting in what we have now.
I kind of understand where Xan is coming from with the slander he has dealt with from people like Dj Muel and thought slime but that doesn't mean this is the same
In a way I can relate to Xan, because like him, I’m a sensitive boi as well. I bruise easily, and I also have a lot of people from my past who I wish awful things upon. But the way that him and I go about it is so radically different. I know when to let sleeping dogs lie and show restraint, whereas he viciously lashes out at anyone who even sticks their pinky toe over the line he’s drawn. I agree with almost everyone that he needs to spend more time in therapy and learn some healthier coping strategies. His reputation and his social life depend on it.
Two things I need to point out regarding Xanderhal that I saw in TomFooleryShow's stream where he reacted to Xanderhal's stream. [1] Xanderhal said that Shoe0nHead took the term Slanderhal from the Lolicon community. By Xanderhal's stadnards he has actively pedojacketed Shoe0nHead in my opinion. [2] Xanderhal also doubted that Keffals was even trans and suggested she was cis. I would expect DemonMama and Doe to rip him several new arseholes over that. If he is held to the standards that he held Keffals, this might not be the only bridge that gets burnt.
@@PunkZombie1300 He has stated that he did not know that Keffals was trans some time in the past year, don't remember why it came up or when. In his defense, Xanderhal is self-absorbed, easily distracted, and not very observant. Add to that the fact that Keffals admits that she shies away from trans issues on stream can lead to him forgetting/ignoring stuff.
OT question: how can one access PS's discord server? When I try to join, it says the link isnt active anymore. Do I need to donate or something first? If anyone can help me out here or point the way in the right direction, I'll be grateful. TIA- andie
Keffals was debating Karlmax about “theyfab” and was losing, gayfesh linked the karlmax tweet about xan in chat, Sunday criticized keffals and karlmax for this, demon mama asked Sunday not to interact with gayfesh bc they’re friends, something like that
5:05 I always called him wannbe Vaush... but then be Was a Vaush waiting room...I like that...terrible content.... now I don't know what hes gonna do....
After just mulling about this crap and checking xan's video twice, I honestly felt uncomfortable with Xan's conduct in his stream. I still don't get the full context which is why I got angry because this looked like it came out of nowhere. I still disagree with your point on Shoe not jacketing DM and Xan, BUT I think Xan was being incredibly immature by egging Keffals to berate Shoe for him. Same way he sent his friend to debate you. It was not a good look in retrospect and he came off really unhinged.
The fact that Xanderhal has been on this platform longer than Vaush, and has been featured on mass media several times and still doesn't have consistent views is objectively proof of Xan overestimating his own appeal. Every now and then I feel bad for the guy, he is mocked so much. But then I watch one of his videos, where his smug behaviour and ignorance is so clear I stop feeling bad pretty fast. He doesnt have a clue of what he is talking about most of the time, and this new professional victim thing of his is bad. He is using it to deny things he factually did wrong. I don't know how he still manages to pull the small numbers he does.
Is Xan more than a dumb kid? Are we just punching down now? He is inviting it at this point, but is anything accomplished? Hope we're eating off of him at least.
Hey Sunday as an avid subscriber to your channel, I have to ask: are you really buddy buddy with Eudaimonia? Also, agreed that you made a stupid mistake trying to engage with Xan when you made a dumb argument about how Shoe didn't have to "clarify" herself, when you hold that standard to other content creators. I'm seriously disappointed you even had the gall. Also, love the drama farming meter you had in stream. Real mature, eh?
Spending some time critique post liberal writings and he has been helpful in providing the best examples. Otherwise I treat him politely and that's about it.
I categorize Keffals as mildly worse thsn Xanderhal, because she is brutal and lies constantly to victimize herself. But her video on shoe's video was absolutely correct and I don't know why slime even felt like he had to try debunk it when it was literally just the truth. That being said, I despise both of them pretty equally. I do think Keffals does need more pushback in general tho.
@@foxgloved8922 the guy xan sent to debate him started constantly interrupting, so sunday decided to kick him out, at least as I understand it. vod is still up, you can look for yourself to decide who "owned" who there, it's somewhere around 4h 20 min mark i think.
new form of communication: just livestream yourself watching someone livestream someone who’s livestreaming you
Man you're a member I didn't know you were in that deep -grendwhich
People cant talk face to face so they criticise eachothers stream
I feel like Xan could benefit from adressing the abuse he experienced in therapy. He seems to take out his trust issues on people in this manner.
Yeah this feels like a meltdown, I feel kinda bad for him. He's tearing apart his social connections
"He is always beneath you, but nothing is beneath him" is an incredible roast and one I will be incorporating into my daily life. Subbed
Xan always did seem like a 'try too hard' type. even though he came out before vaush i still think of him as 'diet vaush' basically
His problem is that he knows basically nothing about anything and just regurgitates talking points he got from internet discourse. See: Any debate he did
Sunday just won here, categorically
Lmao
Based.
Xan really just always assumes that he's right and doesn't bother to learn what is going on
And his community just encourages him to do so. While admittedly it isn't a lot, every video I've seen of Xan's has both him and his community talking about how right he is all the time and how he predicted x or y.
The fact that his community talks about how he’s always right and ignores how often he’s wrong makes him no better than a slightly left wing version of Alex Jones
That's most people in this space my dude if you haven't noticed. Yes that also includes Sunday
I kind of miss the old days of RUclips beefs where we just settled things with each party uploading rap battle videos.
Me too.
@PresidentSunday Be the change that you want to see in the world.
All hail the Hip-hop Cuttlefish.
This whole shoe saga has got to be one of the more petty and dumb dramas we’ve had in a while. Of which, Xan absolutely 100% did not need to make public at all
I actually was watching the xan stream when the theyfab talk started, and I watched him push back against people who were saying this term is used to disparage some people. Audience members were debating the point but he remained on the side that it is just not used that way.
Arguing with these people while totally ignorant.
I feel ashamed that I was a patron of both xan and keff.
I loss alot of respect of both during this drama cycle
It kind of sucks how... well, shitty, Xanderhal has been recently. We're around the same age, and both went down the alt-right pipeline when we were younger (him further than I) because of the same Minecraft server (small world!). His early videos about how he got radicalized are great.
Unfortunately, I feel like what happened with Lani (his ex) has made him think he has carte blanche to act however he pleases in the space, and it's rough to watch.
I thought the same thing too. All the drama that happened with the Though Slime'a fake sex cult allegations, the awful DJ Muel hitpiece and the personal drama piled up to him in a really unhealthy manner, resulting in what we have now.
Sunday > Xanderhall
Based
Sunday is fair
I kind of understand where Xan is coming from with the slander he has dealt with from people like Dj Muel and thought slime but that doesn't mean this is the same
I will never forgive DJ Muel for making me defend Xanderhal lmao because he was actually in the right there and DJ Muel’s video was insane.
In a way I can relate to Xan, because like him, I’m a sensitive boi as well. I bruise easily, and I also have a lot of people from my past who I wish awful things upon. But the way that him and I go about it is so radically different. I know when to let sleeping dogs lie and show restraint, whereas he viciously lashes out at anyone who even sticks their pinky toe over the line he’s drawn. I agree with almost everyone that he needs to spend more time in therapy and learn some healthier coping strategies. His reputation and his social life depend on it.
This the lefty verison of “I like waffles” and someone says “bro my you hate pancakes.”
I mean most of the left is that.
Two things I need to point out regarding Xanderhal that I saw in TomFooleryShow's stream where he reacted to Xanderhal's stream.
[1] Xanderhal said that Shoe0nHead took the term Slanderhal from the Lolicon community. By Xanderhal's stadnards he has actively pedojacketed Shoe0nHead in my opinion.
[2] Xanderhal also doubted that Keffals was even trans and suggested she was cis. I would expect DemonMama and Doe to rip him several new arseholes over that. If he is held to the standards that he held Keffals, this might not be the only bridge that gets burnt.
Do you have a time stamp for #2? I'd like to see what he said but the stream's like 5+ hrs lol.
@@PunkZombie1300 He has stated that he did not know that Keffals was trans some time in the past year, don't remember why it came up or when. In his defense, Xanderhal is self-absorbed, easily distracted, and not very observant. Add to that the fact that Keffals admits that she shies away from trans issues on stream can lead to him forgetting/ignoring stuff.
Keffals being cis is a meme Keffals started. I wouldn't take it seriously.
@@maneatingcheeze Ah, that sounds less like doubting and more like he just didn't know somehow. A bit idiotic, sure, but probably not malicious.
OT question: how can one access PS's discord server? When I try to join, it says the link isnt active anymore. Do I need to donate or something first? If anyone can help me out here or point the way in the right direction, I'll be grateful. TIA- andie
rip i started to watch xan more and less vuash, guess ill watch more president sunday and DM
A wise and discriminating choice.
The light at the end of the vaush pipeline
@@PresidentSunday hope you feel better about yourself soon 🙏
I think we should be mindful on how easy it is to lie, when we are wrong
How have I not found you earlier, Love the content keep it up man!!
Subscribed based on your opinions here. Good shit m8
What is your opinion on the philosophy channel Then and Now?
Wait what happened wrt Gayfesh? I totally missed that
Keffals was debating Karlmax about “theyfab” and was losing, gayfesh linked the karlmax tweet about xan in chat, Sunday criticized keffals and karlmax for this, demon mama asked Sunday not to interact with gayfesh bc they’re friends, something like that
What an epic own. Showing that SOME OTHER GUY expressed bad views.
5:05 I always called him wannbe Vaush... but then be Was a Vaush waiting room...I like that...terrible content.... now I don't know what hes gonna do....
After just mulling about this crap and checking xan's video twice, I honestly felt uncomfortable with Xan's conduct in his stream. I still don't get the full context which is why I got angry because this looked like it came out of nowhere. I still disagree with your point on Shoe not jacketing DM and Xan, BUT I think Xan was being incredibly immature by egging Keffals to berate Shoe for him. Same way he sent his friend to debate you. It was not a good look in retrospect and he came off really unhinged.
i love game music in the background ❤️🔥
Infinite G on the first-world.
Xanderhal has gotta go
Settle down crab in a barrel 😵💫
And why? Why don't you go instead?
@@InfiniteDeckhand I'm not there
Hey hey, ho ho,
such a shame to see you two fight.
The fact that Xanderhal has been on this platform longer than Vaush, and has been featured on mass media several times and still doesn't have consistent views is objectively proof of Xan overestimating his own appeal. Every now and then I feel bad for the guy, he is mocked so much. But then I watch one of his videos, where his smug behaviour and ignorance is so clear I stop feeling bad pretty fast. He doesnt have a clue of what he is talking about most of the time, and this new professional victim thing of his is bad. He is using it to deny things he factually did wrong. I don't know how he still manages to pull the small numbers he does.
ok what
Is Xan more than a dumb kid?
Are we just punching down now?
He is inviting it at this point, but is anything accomplished?
Hope we're eating off of him at least.
I'm on a research break till Friday, so yes. We're eating.
@PresidentSunday cheers!
As long as the checks clear and the daemon algorithm is fed.
Hey Sunday as an avid subscriber to your channel, I have to ask: are you really buddy buddy with Eudaimonia? Also, agreed that you made a stupid mistake trying to engage with Xan when you made a dumb argument about how Shoe didn't have to "clarify" herself, when you hold that standard to other content creators. I'm seriously disappointed you even had the gall. Also, love the drama farming meter you had in stream. Real mature, eh?
Spending some time critique post liberal writings and he has been helpful in providing the best examples. Otherwise I treat him politely and that's about it.
@@PresidentSunday Lovely.
Dude… Xanderhal is one of the most boring humans beings to have to listen to.
I categorize Keffals as mildly worse thsn Xanderhal, because she is brutal and lies constantly to victimize herself. But her video on shoe's video was absolutely correct and I don't know why slime even felt like he had to try debunk it when it was literally just the truth. That being said, I despise both of them pretty equally. I do think Keffals does need more pushback in general tho.
Every leftist is stuck in an echo chamber....
Not really, cause we’re always at each others throats. The right is the one in a constant echo chamber
didn't you get owned in a debate right after this and ragequit?
Did he?
@@foxgloved8922 the guy xan sent to debate him started constantly interrupting, so sunday decided to kick him out, at least as I understand it. vod is still up, you can look for yourself to decide who "owned" who there, it's somewhere around 4h 20 min mark i think.
That's the next segment I think. I don't make the individual videos.
by owned you mean inundated with stupidity?
@Psimoon301 I explained why sunday ended the debate, as I see it, not who won or whatever. I just think calling it a ragequit is inaccurate