Kanye Sold This Jay-Z Beat TWICE

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Комментарии • 198

  • @ryansmithc
    @ryansmithc 4 дня назад +271

    Honestly you gotta make a deep Kanye documentary breaking down each album. You got the best breakdowns

    • @JohnathanJannenga69
      @JohnathanJannenga69 4 дня назад +25

      Actually you could literally make a documentary that if you spend enough time on, you could send it to Sundance film festival. I would highly recommend it.

    • @benjoyce8034
      @benjoyce8034 4 дня назад +14

      Honestly, I would go buy a movie ticket for that documentary.

    • @bagboy9200
      @bagboy9200 3 дня назад +1

      That would be fire🔥🔥

    • @marcusjackson271
      @marcusjackson271 2 дня назад +2

      I'd pay good money to watch this...

    • @ThisIsVersatile
      @ThisIsVersatile День назад +1

      AGREE!!! 🔥

  • @oleg_samples
    @oleg_samples 4 дня назад +110

    Rare samples are not always the best... Kanye sampled the The Jackson 5, The Doors and Bobby Bland on The Blueprint 😎👍🏼

    • @dangusto2596
      @dangusto2596 3 дня назад +1

      Ye flipped that That Bobby Bland sample for “Heart Of The City” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @drowninginyourwords
      @drowninginyourwords 3 дня назад +1

      much love oleg

    • @shiven513
      @shiven513 3 дня назад

      I know you don’t have to sample small gems and make a fuck ton of money without royalties 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @christinathein951
      @christinathein951 3 дня назад +1

      The takeover/5 to 1 beat made my workout playlist for this year still holds up excellent

    • @diemonddtx
      @diemonddtx День назад

      Master Oleg has spoken 🙌

  • @drollins9973
    @drollins9973 4 дня назад +46

    I Mean ' Down and Out" is Fire!! Cam didn't loose anything in that trade off. I miss the Old Kanye too

    • @Andy-bh8hw
      @Andy-bh8hw 4 дня назад +2

      Missed a number 1 hit

    • @-Osiris-
      @-Osiris- 3 дня назад +8

      Apparently All Day did Down and Out, not Kanye, even though Kanye got the credit

    • @ma.cannon2849
      @ma.cannon2849 3 дня назад +3

      @@-Osiris- he did I will never forget there was a video on RUclips years ago, where he was basically saying that he did it and that video is removed… Fast forward Kanye drops a beat tape and he tells the story about how AD did it but when people come up to Kanye he says oh thanks

    • @user-tf6zb2kn5l
      @user-tf6zb2kn5l 2 дня назад

      ​@@ma.cannon2849he talks about it on the DJ A-Trak mixtape "Soul Mix Show"

    • @SuperChocolateCocoaBear
      @SuperChocolateCocoaBear 2 дня назад

      Down and Out is a good record.

  • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
    @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 4 дня назад +10

    Hot Carl looks exactly like how I picture someone named Hot Carl would look

    • @jaolaugh
      @jaolaugh 2 дня назад +1

      hot karl being mentioned means i gotta share two facts
      he's married to topanga from boy meets world
      he went viral in 2021 for faking that he found shrimp in a package of cinnamon toast crunch

    • @L0NESTVR
      @L0NESTVR День назад

      @@jaolaugh that shrimp thing was him?? Lmaooo

  • @MikeMFNLove
    @MikeMFNLove 4 дня назад +36

    Kanye gave the beat that would eventually be H To The Izzo to everyone including Coodie (Kanye Documentary on Netflix) and to me for a radio promo that was supposed to be rapped by Common with a hook by Carl Thomas. Also, while Kanye was giving away beats he’d already sold, he also gave the Jay-Z the beat and hook for the song Never Change (which was recorded by a Chicago artist named Payroll). Kanye was basically selling his soul and doing anything to get on including giving away another man’s ACTUAL SONG (Never Change) to Jay Z. The beat was done by Kanye but Payroll made the hook for Never Change and never got credit. Kanye got jumped for that in Chicago BY Payroll and Payroll got his leg broken by Kanye’s crew.
    Also, Brian All Day Miller produced Down And Out, Kanye just put his name on it to get All Day in the game (similar to what D Dot did with Kanye to get him in the game)

    • @MikeMFNLove
      @MikeMFNLove 4 дня назад

      ruclips.net/video/pDYg9IRzzB4/видео.htmlsi=5Q_uRXrvvifsMo-V
      From my 2003 mixtape hosted by Bishop Don Magic Juan

    • @PraiseWater
      @PraiseWater 4 дня назад +2

      "Shiiiiii Mike Love COLD AS HELL!!!" 🫡

    • @TxWIll
      @TxWIll 4 дня назад +1

      Who was Ye's crew in Chicago?

    • @fredricksmith8760
      @fredricksmith8760 3 дня назад +1

      ​@TxWIll watch his Documentary, he came up with NO ID.

    • @TxWIll
      @TxWIll 3 дня назад +2

      @@fredricksmith8760 I know Dion was his mentor, I'm asking who was his street crew

  • @startrakambassador3632
    @startrakambassador3632 4 дня назад +32

    This has became my fav channel on YT.

    • @shuflbeats
      @shuflbeats 4 дня назад +3

      Me too. His videos are great. Nothing that even compares elsewhere.

    • @HARVEY_1988
      @HARVEY_1988 2 дня назад

      Definitely!👍🏾👍🏾

  • @TimWrightDJ
    @TimWrightDJ 4 дня назад +35

    8:23 "I do really miss that era of Kanye."
    We all do.

  • @BigPurp9
    @BigPurp9 4 дня назад +31

    Love him or hate him Kanye West musical brain is insane. He’d be one of the greatest artists ever off his beats alone

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 4 дня назад +1

      He is an artist.. all artist are kinda crazy but its why he see and hears the things others don’t.

  • @deeswan7603
    @deeswan7603 4 дня назад +10

    He did. He sold it 1st to Cam’ron and then ended up giving it to Jay Z. Which started the beef between jay z and Camron.

  • @BillyHoyle
    @BillyHoyle 4 дня назад +12

    I didn’t hear Cam say he paid for the beat, just that Kanye gave it to him. And the Down and Out beat was made by Brian Miller

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 3 дня назад +4

      All Day Miller and Kanye “co-produced” it but Kanye got all the official credit at first lol typical Kanye….. kinda like typical Dre 🤫

  • @Marcustrh
    @Marcustrh 4 дня назад +9

    Patiently waiting for Just Blaze video

    • @dangusto2596
      @dangusto2596 3 дня назад +1

      Yes! I feel like he gets overlooked a lot from this era of hip hop producers.

    • @Marcustrh
      @Marcustrh 3 дня назад

      @@dangusto2596 him and track masters I feel like rockfella era is overlooked due to Ye & Hov

  • @shuflbeats
    @shuflbeats 4 дня назад +20

    Damn. Bink! has a lot to do with that Blueprint sound. Kanye and Justblaze are said to have followed his lead for that sound. I think Bink! was the first producer on that album.

  • @13jcarey
    @13jcarey 4 дня назад +5

    Another masterful video. This is top tier content as always man! 🙌🏾

  • @KanyeArchivalProject
    @KanyeArchivalProject 3 дня назад +4

    Something I didn’t know either was that “Down and Out” wasn’t produced by Kanye, he says it on the “Kanye’s Soul Mix Showdown” Mixtape. It was another provider entirely but they credited as him.

  • @eudeva682
    @eudeva682 4 дня назад +4

    when I read the title of this video, thought you was gonna talk about other Blueprint song, cause Kanye ALSO sold the “Never Change” beat to another rapper named Payroll before showing it to Jay Z. you can check it out the original version on youtube.

  • @CarbonComs
    @CarbonComs 4 дня назад +2

    Another great video as always. I’m waiting for a video on Just Blaze though, maybe Exhibit A / Exhibit C

  • @g.b.4488
    @g.b.4488 День назад

    Bro‘ your channel is pure gold! 🥇 thank you for the great work!

  • @JonathanIsrael708
    @JonathanIsrael708 3 дня назад +3

    He did the same thing with "Never Change". It was originally for a local Chicago rapper named Payroll (RIP Jason). It used to play on a local hip-hop station. You can find the original on RUclips. He ended up selling it to Jay-Z. I believe Payroll got a lil money after they beefed for a bit.. but yea

  • @AnAbsurdExistence
    @AnAbsurdExistence 4 дня назад +12

    Excellent topic

  • @Jweezyization
    @Jweezyization 3 дня назад

    You are the best at what you do. Keep it coming.

  • @Kxji
    @Kxji 4 дня назад +55

    Don't we all miss the old Kanye?

  • @customautomarine
    @customautomarine 3 дня назад

    This account should have millions of subscribers. Great content for us old hip hop heads.

  • @khayzee62
    @khayzee62 4 дня назад +1

    Your content is outstanding ❤

  • @GTACJGrove
    @GTACJGrove 4 дня назад +6

    Can you do a video on “The Blueprint” album?

  • @GenocidePanda
    @GenocidePanda 4 дня назад +3

    ghostface on the izzo beat would have been so so nasty.

  • @npcimknot958
    @npcimknot958 4 дня назад +1

    There is one quote in my design book i will never forget but it does really highlight those that really change the scene- when everyone zigs , you zag.
    Everyone samples the most obvious parts.. kanye sampled the parts that weren’t.
    Never zig. Always zag aka don’t follow trends if you want to change the scene

  • @munny_1206
    @munny_1206 3 дня назад +1

    “Thank you, thank you, thank you. You’re far too kind” -I see what you did there

  • @SamadSaVage
    @SamadSaVage 4 дня назад +1

    Man i love this channel

  • @djdubls
    @djdubls 4 дня назад +2

    Great video. I've read somewhere that Kanye took inspiration from Dr Dre's Xxplosive for the drums for this beat and This Can't be Life by Jay & Scarface. They do sound similar.

    • @blue9multimediagroup
      @blue9multimediagroup 4 дня назад

      He did
      And Xxplosive took its drums from BUMPY'S LAMENT by Soul Mann & the Brothers

  • @charismatickidd
    @charismatickidd 4 дня назад

    I love this channel…ppl often think beat making is simple

  • @Red4ty
    @Red4ty 4 дня назад +3

    I've been saying it in the discord but I wanna say it here, we NEED a bad brains or a punk video.

  • @soupmoney5738
    @soupmoney5738 2 дня назад

    💎💎💎🔥💎💎💎💯👌🏾 I love how you did that lead in 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @JAPANESE_MAPLE
    @JAPANESE_MAPLE 4 дня назад +1

    This is one of the best channels,i love kanye man i already knew this but i didnt really see a person talk throughly about it .

    • @antoniomiles
      @antoniomiles 4 дня назад

      ruclips.net/video/pDYg9IRzzB4/видео.htmlsi=OHvbT6U7auTfvz4I

    • @antoniomiles
      @antoniomiles 4 дня назад

      Jay-Z stole never change from this dude

    • @antoniomiles
      @antoniomiles 4 дня назад

      That's the link to the original

  • @juddwinnfield1558
    @juddwinnfield1558 3 дня назад

    😂 Ha, you mastered the cliffhangers - love it

  • @JohnathanJannenga69
    @JohnathanJannenga69 4 дня назад +1

    I would love some break downs of beastie boys, pauls boutique would be cool to see. That and Ill communication.

  • @JohnathanJannenga69
    @JohnathanJannenga69 4 дня назад

    Odd question, I'm making a indie movie. What are the best techniques when it comes to sampling? Were planning on samples classic art for the soundtrack but making it in a hip hop way where we sample it

  • @jwfoure
    @jwfoure 2 дня назад +1

    If anyone is wondering, Kanye produced a song called Armand Assante for Hot Karl.

  • @nicolesherman8974
    @nicolesherman8974 4 дня назад +4

    Welcome back DTG 🔥🔥

    • @diggingthegreats
      @diggingthegreats  4 дня назад +7

      Good to be back! Sorry to leave you hanging last week! SO much stuff coming in July, I can't wait 🔥

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 3 дня назад

      @@diggingthegreats Very surprised when listing earlier songs that sampled I Want You Back you neglected Lil Romeo’s masterpiece “My Baby” ;)

  • @npcimknot958
    @npcimknot958 4 дня назад

    It’s really cool how the original song is so damn good.. it inspires so many “ new” songs but it really is a testimate how insanely genius people were in the past with writing
    Honestly,. This art form really is the best way to preserve the past and appreciate the past like no other.

  • @ryan.stinson
    @ryan.stinson 3 дня назад

    Fun fact about the beat for Cam’s “Down and Out” that we know and love: Though West received the sole producer credit for the track, he acknowledged that the beat was primarily produced by Brian "All Day" Miller.

  • @suchy8150
    @suchy8150 4 дня назад

    I'm waiting for Yuno Miles breakdown man.

  • @lamnestor4399
    @lamnestor4399 4 дня назад +2

    Loved the “Thank You” Blueprint 3 reference 😂

  • @macbeatDugg
    @macbeatDugg 4 дня назад

    Old school Kanye beats are ❤‍🔥 great breakdown

  • @JAY1892
    @JAY1892 4 дня назад

    I would love to sit down and chat music with this dude. Cool and F and knows his stuff. 🔥

  • @fredricksmith8760
    @fredricksmith8760 3 дня назад +1

    Look I spent 20 years in the studio with Grammy award winning producer's JUSTICE LEAGUE, mainly with the member Producer "ROOK."They formed in Tampa and went on to Produce entire CATALOGS for ROSS ,JEEZY and more legends. I say that, to say this, I been around the greats, and this white boy from Digging in the Crates, KNOWS HIS STUFF! He's a studio SCIENTIST 😂

    • @SupastarJKwik
      @SupastarJKwik 2 дня назад

      Shout out to Rook... Ivan... #Tallahasse days. I remember their first major placement with the John Legend "Ordinary People (Remix)" They put me on the "She Got It (Remix") feat. T-Pain Twista & Lil Kim

  • @haskeymorrison
    @haskeymorrison 4 дня назад

    Best channel on RUclips strikes again

  • @haoburke
    @haoburke 4 дня назад

    Always learn something new here

  • @kuukeli
    @kuukeli 4 дня назад

    Interesting video once again

  • @D_Handler
    @D_Handler 4 дня назад

    Never Change on the Blueprint album is my all time favorite, the beat is a materclass

  • @RolyGuacamole
    @RolyGuacamole 3 дня назад

    This reminds me of the We Gon Make It beat controversy .

  • @Samuel_536
    @Samuel_536 3 дня назад

    down and out is so fire but i really wonder what camron would’ve done with the izzo beat

  • @jayda1k_
    @jayda1k_ 2 дня назад

    Fact: Kanye lifted the backbeat/drums from Dr Dre’s XXplosive (1999) off of Chronic 2001. Interesting take I thought would be worth mention as the former song is then also sampled in Izzo.

  • @DEADMANSXDEMON
    @DEADMANSXDEMON 3 дня назад

    I LOVE YE & EVERYTHING HES DOING TODAY

  • @MetalSonic420
    @MetalSonic420 4 дня назад

    Banger video.

  • @OtsileM
    @OtsileM 2 дня назад

    Really dug this

  • @nykki21
    @nykki21 2 дня назад

    Down and out is easily one of me favorite beats by Kanye

  • @artisans8521
    @artisans8521 4 дня назад

    8.29 my thoughts exactly.

  • @theonlycaamz
    @theonlycaamz 4 дня назад +6

    common digging the greats w

    • @diggingthegreats
      @diggingthegreats  4 дня назад +2

      Nothing is for certain, other than death, taxes, and a @theonlycaamz comment the moment a DTG video drops 🔥

    • @theonlycaamz
      @theonlycaamz 4 дня назад +1

      @@diggingthegreats tis what i do best

  • @1120beats
    @1120beats 4 дня назад +1

    the whole Chicago know Kanye did this a lot VIA "Never change" Kanye had pay the streets

  • @SamFocused
    @SamFocused 4 дня назад

    Back in the day the Hustler Kanye Made Sure he saved the best Option for his own Career 💯💯💯 So No to Ghostface Killer, Cameron or Hot Carl...
    Hove Placement and the Rest is History!!!
    Great Video 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @IZE_V1
    @IZE_V1 4 дня назад

    AMAZING video

  • @crimson6323
    @crimson6323 4 дня назад

    of course gotta pull up to the video 1 min after it dropped

  • @k.c.simonsen2
    @k.c.simonsen2 3 дня назад

    It's so wild how beats make their way around the hip-hop community, especially back when it wasn't super easy to get beats. That white guy wanted it and it slept all over town til it married Jay-Z and we heard it on the radio, that's crazy shit. And it's a crazy cut-up thing from the Jackson 5 - such a strange art form the more you know about it.

  • @TheoConway
    @TheoConway 2 дня назад

    always wondered why jay goes by hova haha makes sense

  • @dandeluxe8731
    @dandeluxe8731 4 дня назад +2

    This video is great. Although there are a few things I would add...
    Ye didn't produce Down And Out. Brian Miller did. Ye did produce Dipset Forever, another song from the same Cam'ron album.
    Ye selling the Izzo beat to Hov eventually led into a feud between Hov and Cam'ron.
    And that wasn't even the only time Ye resold a beat. The beat for Never Change off of the Blueprint was originally for a Chicago rapper named Payroll. His song was out a whole year before Jay-Z's version. This led to another feud, this time with Ye and Payroll.
    That's all I can think of. Love your channel.

  • @jutisn
    @jutisn 4 дня назад

    What was Kanye thinking ghost face was going to do with that beat. I can’t even imagine what that would sound like

  • @HankseyHill
    @HankseyHill 3 дня назад

    Tell me why I stumbled on a 7 year old Amazon Kindle review... from you, Mr. B. Shaw. How in the world of coincidences did THAT happen?

  • @suleimanmustafa1473
    @suleimanmustafa1473 4 дня назад +3

    Alchemist did the same thing selling the same beat to Ras Kass and then Jadakiss for 'We gonna make it'

  • @j_ramone
    @j_ramone 7 часов назад

    THAT Kanye Era 💯🔥👌🏾

  • @davyannajones
    @davyannajones День назад

    The song he couldn’t get cleared is All Falls Down

  • @unkop4847
    @unkop4847 2 дня назад

    Hovito beat by Timbo is wild

  • @TYBO-xl1xz
    @TYBO-xl1xz 3 дня назад

    The Blueprint is not bigger than volume 2 sales wise, which was before Bp

  • @MediaSoundBites
    @MediaSoundBites 2 дня назад

    You don't realize Jay Z got the name HOVA from Tupac in the dish song going all out and Notorious B.I.G., Jay Z the name Jigga

  • @binxboi7156
    @binxboi7156 2 дня назад

    8:40 dude went from killing it on Power 106 to lying about cereal and being outed as a sex pest

  • @Jack-eh8mg
    @Jack-eh8mg 3 дня назад

    I still play Izzo it's just that good

  • @Mr.ThomasAnderson
    @Mr.ThomasAnderson 4 дня назад +1

    Oooo Bink gonna come after you for saying the soul samples became popular after Ye and Just. You ain't wrong but still...😂

  • @vindigga6
    @vindigga6 2 дня назад

    Damn, i totally could see ghost on that. Big miss by ironman.

  • @gwopin1
    @gwopin1 2 дня назад

    Fun fact Michael gave only two sample approvals kriss Kross and svw took both on tour. Rip Kris Kelly my brother

  • @antoniomiles
    @antoniomiles 4 дня назад +1

    payroll never change that was his song first and Kanye West gave it to Jay z

  • @steve_santiago
    @steve_santiago 4 дня назад +1

    Dammit, Ghost. Why’d you pass on this beat and the Girls Girls Girls beat?

  • @Becauseimme
    @Becauseimme 4 дня назад

    I sold the same beats to people in the early 2000’s, whoever had the chart got to claim it.

  • @mbb3817
    @mbb3817 4 дня назад

    I don't understand how folks like you who are from outside of the culture are welcomed in with open arms and you speak on greats of the culture with praise from one side of your mouth and disrespect from the other side. Just appreciate what he brought and is still bringing to the game and continue to make money and content based on his greatness. No need for the slick remark bruh. I love your channel and content but don't let media fool you into thinking it's ok to disrespect our icons just because they do. If you're down with us stay down don't disrespect the architects. Peace.

    • @mbb3817
      @mbb3817 4 дня назад

      When I think of your channel I think of positivity, stay in that space. Don't make things personal. How do you think anyone you've covered would feel watching a vid about their musical legacy but then you taking a detour to comment about how you feel that their current persona is inadequate and how you don't prefer how they act now. Try to remain in that positive, enlightening space that you've been doing so well in. You don't strike me as a confrontational type of person. Don't turn into Vlad.

    • @nathanakpe4897
      @nathanakpe4897 День назад

      ​@@mbb3817stop trying to defend Kanye he destroyed his legacy with the nonsense he is currently doing both musically and in his personal life black people and victim mentality 😂

  • @teem5945
    @teem5945 3 дня назад

    6:29 so unfortunate that they are no longer friends.

  • @vinnyrandazzo5674
    @vinnyrandazzo5674 4 дня назад +1

    Didn’t Just Blaze produce Girls girls girls for Ghostface too? What a different album if face bought these tracks

  • @jaymack7062
    @jaymack7062 4 дня назад

    not my favorite track but def a sick flip that cant be denied

  • @owensmith9569
    @owensmith9569 4 дня назад

    Encore reference

  • @thablackkat9905
    @thablackkat9905 3 дня назад

    Kanye didn't produce the "Down & Out" track. He's just a feature.

  • @fredricksmith8760
    @fredricksmith8760 3 дня назад

    Young Kanye is the DEFINITION OF AMBITION!

  • @chrisrhodes2
    @chrisrhodes2 3 дня назад

    Very catchy, poppy beat. Probably J's most radio friendly song ever.

  • @idkmybffjv
    @idkmybffjv 3 дня назад

    9:00-9:09 oh I laughed at that shit

  • @antoniomiles
    @antoniomiles 4 дня назад +1

    payroll say Kanye West did that with a lot of his beats it was somebody else's then you turn around and gave it to a famous rappers

  • @leonardosoriano5687
    @leonardosoriano5687 4 дня назад +2

    I HATE YOU I HATE YOU 😡😡EVERY TIME YOU DROP A NEW VIDEO YOU LEAD PERFECTLY INTO YOUR OTHER VIDEOS (which are all bangers btw) AND I START BINGE WATCHING YOUR VIDEOS FOR LIKE 3 HOURS😂😂😂

  • @nigelcrown8562
    @nigelcrown8562 4 дня назад

    Random fact but Kanye didn’t even make down and out it was brain all day. Love the videos though! ❤

  • @Klabimmbamm
    @Klabimmbamm 4 дня назад

    Man, you're one of the greatest, incredible good content. You play bass for Nas and you deserve it. You're an awesome guy and I can tell from the bottom of my heart. However, this entire commercial shit pisses me off. Do Patreon if you want to, I feel like a lot of people would support you, but dont let ads take over your content. It's too good for that. Don't let it water down your stuff. Real recognize real and we already got you.

  • @CosbyKid
    @CosbyKid 3 дня назад

    Kanye also sold "Never Change" twice which is why Payroll put hands on him in Chicago at Isaac Hayes restaurant.

  • @antoniomiles
    @antoniomiles 4 дня назад +1

    Kanye West sold never changed to a Chicago gangster rapper then he gave beat to the Jay z and got in trouble for it he couldn't go back to Chicago for a while

  • @illford6921
    @illford6921 4 дня назад

    I'm not crazy the thumbnail changed right?

  • @joedellava7805
    @joedellava7805 4 дня назад

    I think everyone here can all agree that “I (we) miss the old Kanye.”

  • @waltdiesel
    @waltdiesel День назад

    That was the real Kanye😢😢😢

  • @shamangomel
    @shamangomel 4 дня назад

    🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥