@@gorghor please, half of this trilogy (and more) doesn't exist in the book... let us dream about our beloved "good" Christopher-Saruman at least for 5 minutes
@@Zer0day-black you know he actually almost didn't want to do the movie. And I am being serious he actually considered quitting the film just as they were getting started.
@@aggie126 If you really want to have your mind rocked listen to the silmarillion on audio or read the book the silmarillion. You think Gandalf is cool wait until you see Manwe, Tulcas, Ormome, Varda, and if you thought Sauron was bad wait until you see Melkor, he makes Sauron seem like an orc in comparison. I love all of Tolkien's work but the silmarillion reads like a biblical text out of the king james bible. So most people can not understand it but it is the origin story about how middle earth, valinor and Arda were all sung into existence.
Sooo good. Even though The Hobbit films werent amazing (although they've got better with age I think), some of the scenes like this were absolute perfection.
I think it's interesting that some of the very best scenes in the Hobbit movies had nothing to do with that specific story, but were part of that far larger myth.
@@Thumperdevine That was the problem with the Hobbit films in general. They tried to make them feel like Lord of the Rings, when it was really supposed to be a much smaller and lighter story. As such, the best parts tend to be the shoehorned parts that make sense to feel more epic, even if those parts have no place in this story. And that's why those specific scenes are fun to watch on RUclips, but the actual movie is not great to sit down and watch.
PJ does such a great job of bestowing the elves with such grace, elegance and depths of power. He really makes them feel like children of Eru, as opposed to humans with dad bods and teenage angst.
This is literally one of the worst acting I've seen in cinema history. The acting of Galadriel I mean. It looks so forced and fake. Most of LOTR is this way
All of it makes more sense after Silmarillion. One comes to realize that from the creation of Arda, magic in this world was a 'finite' resource. As ages came and went those who wield it became less enthusiastic to spend it (carelessly.) Such demonstrations always left them fatigued and magically spent,..because they were. Gandalf knew the key was to get the villains to spend theirs out of anger, hatred, malice and jealousy. They're easiest to manipulate that way. Note how Gandalf rarely spent his magic, preferring to rely on cunning and alliances within the natural world. At the end Morgoth and Sauron basically 'spent' themselves out of magical leverage.
Love this thought! Gandalf's bearing of the ring helps him live a longer life, and spread hope to those around him, but that's it's innate ability, as an accessory, if you will. I think he used it to defeat the Balrog, but I think that also sent him back to Eru Iluvatar; It was enough to kill him.
Magic is not finite, why are you saying something like this. Evil diminishes, because it has to pour itself in good things in order to corrupt them. Hurin tells something like this to Morgoth: "Do you you forget to whom you speak? Such thinn things you long ago to our fathers [....] And now we have kowledge of you, fo we have looked on the faces that have seen the light, and head voices that spoke with Manwe. Before arda you were, but others also: Neither you are the most mighty for you have spent your strenght upon yourself and wasted it in your own emptiness" Magic itself is not a finite resource, as long as you use it for good
@@TomFreecss Indeed. I don't understand where OP gets that from. It's not in the Sil. And OP + poster who said Gandalf lived longer because of the red ring doesn't understand LotR. Gandalf isn't mortal, he's Miar, an eternal spirit.
These movies are not even close to the books but won awards after awards. The series is not even close to the books and get trashed. I think it's a generation thing.
@@JohnJ-p7o Is this a generational thing to completely ignore what the person was saying and only interjecting to say something completely unrelated to that? Or is this your personal thing? People criticized Hobbit trilogy too, genius.
@@JohnJ-p7o Hobbit films didn't win "awards after awards". The LOTR films did. And they were truly great, regardless of how closely they adapted the books.
@@matthewhughes3749 When Sauron re-emerged in the Third Age, he established Dol Guldur on Amon Lanc after T.A. 1000. His corrupting shadow, known only as the "Necromancer", came over Mirkwood, and as a result Thranduil led his people away. The Council of the Wise long feared the Necromancer might indeed be Sauron; Gandalf himself entered Dol Guldur a couple of times, finally confirming that Sauron was its master. At first Saruman opposed the idea of an attack, as he was secretly searching for the One Ring in the area by then, but later, fearing that Sauron was also looking of the Ring, he finally agreed to an attack in 2941.[1] The Battle Gandalf carefully planned the attack to occur at the same time as the Quest of Erebor, knowing that Sauron and Smaug could not assist each other.[source?] After leaving Thorin and Company at the outskirts of Mirkwood,[2] he joined the White Council and they marched against the great fortress. Little is known of the actual battle. It is unclear if this was simply a duel between great powers, or if it involved the use of armies of any kind. Thanks to the devices of Saruman the Wise, Sauron was driven out from Dol Guldur.[3] However, having already made his plans, he fled to his ancient realm of Mordor.[1] Aftermath With victory theirs, Gandalf immediately left for Erebor, where he would take part in the Battle of Five Armies.[4] After these events, Gandalf and Elrond discussed their victories and agreed that it would be better if the Necromancer were banished from the world altogether.[5] However, Dol Guldur was not destroyed; it remained standing, staffed by the lieutenant of Barad-dûr, and later Khamûl.[6] It was not until the War of the Ring that the fortress was finally destroyed.
Then maybe you can help. I have the Silmarillion, the book, but I can't read it. Half into the first chapter I gave up. I love Tolkien, no problem with the Hobbit, ect, What am I not getting?
@@Calvini2013 Yeah, but what enemies, what dangers, what hard to overcome threads did she deal with before? Not any almost. Elvish Years are count differently, and age means nothing, experience does.
Galadriel was the favorite student of Melian, which was one of the strongest sorcerers of Arda, she put a barrier around Gondolin which lasts an age, how amazon imagined Galadriel with a two-hander sword is far off character and shitty😵💫
She needed a teen like, woke and strong woman (as in angry) you know. They "empowered" an already powerful character, by making it prone to tears and with a fragile mental health. It ticks all the woke boxes.
As much as this scene is amazing from an action and special effects point of view, it irks me a bit: - 1. It has elevated Galadriel's position too much: she alone could not have stood against Sauron in that way, essentially solo-bitchslapping him from Dol Guldur all the way to Mordor. It's very clear in the book that it took the combined efforts of the White Council - including a healthy and hale Gandalf the Grey, as well as Saruman - to drive Sauron from Dol Guldur. 2. Similarly Gandalf's role was diminished to mere captive here. 3. Having had the apparent strength to bitchslap Sauron as described in (1), it's very odd how the moment before that, Galadriel has wilted like an unwatered flower in the presence of evil, she was even dismayed by the presence of the Nine. She is a Noldor princess of Valinor, neice to the mighty Fingolfin who stood truly alone in a far more terrible place - before the Gates of Angband - fighting a far more terrible foe - Morgoth - without wilting like that. She is the neice of Feanor, who stood and fought against _multiple_ Balrogs, sister to Finrod Felagund who stood forth against Sauron and sang a magical duel against him, and who killed a werewolf whilst a captive and unarmed. The Light of the Trees was still in her eyes and she learned from Melian the Maia herself. Whether she could win against the Nine alone or against Sauron is immaterial - she would not have been drained like that before even casting her spell. 4. Cool as it is to see Elrond fight here (and well, and with cool armour and sword), Hugo's delivery of "You should have stayed dead" was in the same exact deadpan vocal tone as his other role as Agent Smith from the Matrix, to the point where I was expecting him to add in "...Mr Anderson." I'm very able to distinguish him as Elrond visually from Smith, but when they also sound the exact same, it's immersion-breaking. 5. I'm fairly sure all Nine Nazgul were not at Dol Guldur at this time. Some where in Mordor and Minas Morgul, preparing the way for the return of their master. Probably, Khamul was there, since he was known to be the Lieutenant of Dol Guldur. The presence of all Nine here diminishes Sauron's power greatly in the mind of the viewer, in addition to what I described in (1). The point was, it took the _whole_ White Council to drive _just_ Sauron (and maybe Khamul) from Dol Guldur...and in Sauron's weakened state. That should give you an idea of how powerful Sauron was at his peak.
yeah i both love and hate this scene, but at least its fun. More than we can say for the rings of power. If you are going to shit on the story, at least make it fun.
I don't agree with your 4th point. The others I thought were very good takes on the Professor's work. However I enjoyed Hugo's performance in the PJ movies. His demeanor is authoritative yet calming. 'It is the unemotional, reserved, calm, detached warrior who wins...' ~ ST. The line you mentioned could be perceived boastful but is was delivered with little to no emotion. Not so much a boast but a statement of fact. In contrast, his performance of Mr. Smith was filled with emotion (strange since he was playing a machine). Every line he delivered in the Matrix movies was dripping with contempt for humanity and NEO's relentless pursuit of choice. To equate the two characters based on the actor's voice would be like saying Alonzo Harris and Silas Trip are the same person (Denzel Washington). Both are rebellious and foul mouthed. Both depicted by the same actor. Yet clearly different characters that evoke very different responses from an audience. With all of the comments regarding the Amazon garbage (many of which I agree with), I enjoyed yours the most in this thread. Very thoughtful.
@@frank4871 Oh I generally enjoy his performances too, it's just that one line which made me think of Agent Smith straight away. Otherwise, he's fantastic.
1 to 2. This didn't work for me so well, either. Much as I adore Cate Blanchett's portrayal of Galadriel, on the occasions when Hollywood makes female heroes seem vastly more powerful by making the male heroes look weaker, it breaks my suspension of disbelief. It prompts me to wonder if it's driven by contemporary fashion rather than by the story. 3. I did wonder for a moment about that, but then I assumed her fear was because she detected the presence of Sauron, part of her weakness was that she used a lot of power to revive Gandalf, and then while she appeared to be weak, she was drawing power into herself to prepare for that sudden attack to expel Sauron from Dol Guldur - an attack that completely drained her. 4. Didn't trouble me. But then I've only seen the first Matrix, and only once. 5. I think this is poetic licence. While it may be true from the lore of the books that the Nine were probably not there when the White Council moved against Dol Guldur, having all nine present made for more drama. Besides, in the actual book, Sauron wasn't expelled, he withdrew to wait for when he had built up more of his power. A fine part of a story that was about Bilbo, but boring if the Hobbit film trilogy was to show a sub-plot of the White Council against Sauron. For me, the best part of the scene was watching Nazgul fight, die, and then almost immediately revive to fight again.
I know most of Saruman's scenes were a stunt double, but it's so easy to imagine Christopher Lee kicking serious ass in the White Wizard's last act of true goodness.
Perhaps I treated the Hobbit series of movies too harshly after watching rings of power. SIGH. At least this still has some semblance of homage to Tolkiens original vision
Besides they did it rushed by a production that didn't give them even a storyboard. Fortunately RoP isn't popular or people would interpret this scene as a fight between lovers 😵💫
@@ReinoldFZ I didn't care for the first few ROP so i quit watching but when season 2 arrived I went back and started watching. I'm glad I did. I think sometimes we can let your prejudices affect our perceptions too much. Many things I dont like I end up liking later but I am so sure it's bad until it isn't.
I love how Peter contrasted the Light of Galadriel surrounded by darkness. My favorite action is Galadriel's power on display to settle that fight. But my second...: is Elrond walking into that battle with grace and conviction and calm... to be such a savage fighter. I WISH that Peter would make a movie about Elrond with Hugo Weaving playing him... beginning in the first age. I mean... imagine that.
A true leader must possess greater strength than those they lead, for when the momentous battles of life arise, it is they who must stand at the forefront, rising boldly to face the challenge and inspire others to follow
Seeing the 9 fight is really one of my favorite fights in the entirety of the Lord of the Rings. The Witch-king of Angmar, The Dark Marshal, Khamûl The Easterling, The Betrayer, The Shadow Lord, The Undying, The Dwimmerlaik, The Tainted, and The Knight of Umbar. I want to see how The Rings of Power sets up who they are and how they get their names. I like THESE epic moments in middle earth history. The stuff of fables from that world; When the lead Istar (before his fall) and 2 ancient elves who wield Vilya and Nenya, two of the Elven Rings, protecting another Istar, Olorin/Mithrandir/Gandalf, wielder of the secret fire, bearer of Narya, the ring of fire, the ring of hope, given to him by Cirdan, take on the ENTIRETY of the darkness Sauron personally poured himself into with the Nine Nazgul. Thankfully they were only spirits, and had not yet retained their full form... The fact that Galadriel, in the Rings of Power, was given the 9 by Celebrimbor to keep safe, makes me feel like her shock and horror at looking upon the Nazgul here, is evidence of her suddenly being filled with the guilt and the weight of the responsibility that was given to her in that moment with him, and how she failed and it's led them to this. Her use of Nenya with the power of light was also probably power derived due to the council given to her by Celebrimbor. The phial that she has imbued with the light of Earandil's star would also be the thing that saves Sam and Frodo from Shelob. Interesting that it is the object that helps Galadriel and the power of the ring of water to expel Sauron into the east. Then in comes the OTHER remaining Istar, Radagast the Brown Wizard, to save Gandalf! This scene is EVERYTHING
Her getting mad like that, being absolutely sick and fucken tired of that pos’s behavior, going maybe even darker than him and doing something about it, feels so good for some reason
Lot of folks with that "glass is half empty" perspective on the internet. It just feels so much smarter to hate everything and everyone but it takes al ot less courage since it's easier to fit in.
can't believe this is the same scary Sauron as sensitive Sauron in rings of power season 2 lmao when WB reboot Harry Potter please don't have voldemort cry also lol
I haven't watched much of "Rings of Power," but I have seen what they did to Galadriel. They took a very powerful elf and made her a regular warrior. I thought it was an insult to Galadriel.
I don’t know why people hate the Hobbit movies so much. This scene is so awesome. I mean Peter Jackson did his best with the short amount of time he was given to get things going. I mean he made three bloated movies but they’re still entertaining to watch.
Galadriel reveals her actual spirit form one other time, when she talks about accepting the Ring. It would interesting seeing what Saruman and Gandalf's true forms are, but we never got that.
They completely ruined the character of Galadriel in the rings of power .... she should never have been a sword weilding angry xena the warrior princess type more rash, seemingly childish and quick to silly mistakes. She in the book was the strongest female character who faced sauron. She was an ethereal, ageless, powerful and wise sorceress as depicted by Kate Blanchett.
none of us start off all powerful. She had to earn that strength. i haven't read the Silmarillion, so i don't know if Galadriel's ROW depiction fits in with that, but there is a Tolkien involved in the production. Why know Sauron rises to power, and is destroyed during Galadriel's life, so clearly she does fail to stop him. She was never an all powerful 'Xena' character in the book. Personally, I found Jackson's portrayals of the lord of the rings characters to be rather flippant and one dimensional. He also left out the entire 'homecoming'- best bit in the book.
@@roberts5539 Galadriel is about 5,000 years old at the time of the Rings of Power. She was born in the equivalent of Heaven learning from gods and angels, when she traveled to Middle-earth she was tutored by another "angel", Melian, for hundreds if not a thousand years. She was one oldest elves in Middle-earth during the 2nd and 3rd age. Peter Jackson portrayed her far better than Amazon, Inc.
Except for one tiny detail: that is Galadriel. In her younger years, she was prideful and, yes, rash. She participated in the revolt, fought in it, and angered the Valar to the point that they outright banned her from ever returning to Valinor. She journeyed to Middle Earth out of ambition, to rule her own kingdom. At a certain point she openly scorned Annatar (Sauron in disguise), who (by being calm, pleasant and forgiving) turned the other elves against her. The elves may be immortal, but they still change. Galadriel, over thousands of years, grew past her pride and lust for dominion. That's how she became the character that we see in LOTR. Even for elves, wisdom and majesty is earned, not inherent. Her character in Rings of Power is broadly consistent with how Tolkien wrote her, with additional flare in the show.
A few random observations: Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and Sauron as fellow Maiar would have known each other for probably hundreds of thousands of years before this scene occurred. Gandalf would have also known the Balrogs (also fallen Maiar) including Durin's Bane that "killed" him. Galadriel is Elrond's mother-in-law and grandmother to his three children.Think about that the next time you watch them in Rings of Power! His wife, Celebrian, went to the Undying Lands centuries before he did, and would have been there waiting to be rejoined with him, their children, and her parents Galadriel and Celeborn. The only one who didn't make it there to be reunited was Arwen Evenstar. Question: As Half-Elven would Arwen's children with Aragorn have the choice to be Human or Elf?
I also find it curious how Galadriel is presented as the strongest here even though she is only an elf. I would think Saruman, as a Maiar would be more powerful even given that Galadriel had a ring of power & Saruman didn't. I think that even given the constraints the Valar placed on the Wizards that Saruman would be more powerful than Galadriel
Why did they make it look like Galadriel was loosing power as she saved Gandalf? Drama? Let's be true to her actual power and strength
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No, Eldarion and his sisters (?) will not have the same choice as Elrond and Elros or the status of an peredhil as Beren and Luthiens son Dior. He will stay mortal.
No, their children will not be given the choice, because their mother is the Evenstar, she is already a half-Elf. So, her one-quarter Elven children would be mighty, but they would be strictly mortal.
If Sauron's goal here was to retrieve Gandalf's elven ring, as was suggested in a cut scene before this one, Galadriel and Elrond rocking up with the other two was hardly the wisest move.
Sauron was just recovering his old dark body by this time, he had no power to oppose the white council together at this time. And he didn't have the ring either. So, he retreated to Mordor.
Honestly I wish they didn't make her light form sound so demonic and dark with multiple voices Like Sauron is the dark one, she's supposed to be more light and angelic
@@jaydeepalmer Wtf she's not. All three elvish rings were made by Celebrimbor without Sauron. Sauron didn't know about it and that why he could not rule them.
@@maweupe5395 Didn't Sauron taint the Elvish rings after he created the 7 Dwarf and 9 King rings. Because I read that's why the Elves refuse to use them. One was given to Gandalf (fire ring) in the book.
@@maweupe5395sorry to pop the bubble, dahling, but all rings of power were made from Sauron's knowledge, including the 3 elven rings. That's why it's 1 ring to rule them all.
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When Galadriel's voice starts sounding like a warped cassette tape, shit's about to get real.
Facts.
Saruman with those Jedi skills! Count Dooku.
Two of my all time favorite characters!
Saruman was amazing.
Before he turned to the Dark Side?
SO weird to see him as a "hero".
Lady of light ❤
I'm thinking Sauron didn't play Alan Wake.
What I love about the wizards in Tolkien's world is how they look feeble until they need to handle business. Even Radagast to a degree.
Ehh but the kiss of a true lady still saved the day !
Gandalf is immortal
@@S3ymirashut up.
You like that Wizards are punk bitches that lose to everyone?
@@S3ymira Almost.
Christopher Lee is so badass in this scene, before he turned to the side of unspeakable evil.
Yeah, I liked his character more than Gandalf.
Saruman was evil long before this.
@@gorghor please, half of this trilogy (and more) doesn't exist in the book... let us dream about our beloved "good" Christopher-Saruman at least for 5 minutes
No one is perfect
Aahhhh hard to see the dark side is
One of the greatest scenes - wish there were more of this is the LOTR/ Hobbit saga
Gandalf always was and always will be my hero! Sir Ian Mckellen is a legend.
@@Zer0day-black you know he actually almost didn't want to do the movie. And I am being serious he actually considered quitting the film just as they were getting started.
@@tireddoggamingtales2091 I know I remember the project almost falling through when Sir Christopher Lee did not want anything to due with the project.
Check out Manwe, Melkor, and Feanor, they will rock your world. Melkor makes Sauron look like an orc in comparison.
It's RIDICULOUS how good Mckellen is as Gandalf.
@@aggie126 If you really want to have your mind rocked listen to the silmarillion on audio or read the book the silmarillion. You think Gandalf is cool wait until you see Manwe, Tulcas, Ormome, Varda,
and if you thought Sauron was bad wait until you see Melkor, he makes Sauron seem like an orc in comparison.
I love all of Tolkien's work but the silmarillion reads like a biblical text out of the king james bible. So most people can not understand it but it is the origin story about how middle earth, valinor and Arda were all sung into existence.
and THATS why you dont piss off Galadriel...
My favourite scene in the whole series, perfectly done 👌🏼
Sooo good. Even though The Hobbit films werent amazing (although they've got better with age I think), some of the scenes like this were absolute perfection.
I think it's interesting that some of the very best scenes in the Hobbit movies had nothing to do with that specific story, but were part of that far larger myth.
Modern entertainment is such sh*t even the Star Wars prequels don't seem bad anymore.
You'd think Gandalf, Galadriel, and Elrond would've remembered and mentioned this years later. 🤷
@@Thumperdevine That was the problem with the Hobbit films in general. They tried to make them feel like Lord of the Rings, when it was really supposed to be a much smaller and lighter story. As such, the best parts tend to be the shoehorned parts that make sense to feel more epic, even if those parts have no place in this story. And that's why those specific scenes are fun to watch on RUclips, but the actual movie is not great to sit down and watch.
Splat like a fly she annihilated that thing.
You gotta hawk tuah, banish that thang
PJ does such a great job of bestowing the elves with such grace, elegance and depths of power. He really makes them feel like children of Eru, as opposed to humans with dad bods and teenage angst.
Humans are children of Eru too ...
Essa é a melhor cena da trilogia do Hobbit!😍
Neste momento até esqueci de anões,dragão,tesouro, etc😆
Christopher Lee = real life badass
scenes like this give me hope that one day, hollywood can regain the spark
nope it will be something else entirely that replaces it. Hollywood CA will become a museum.
@@jacobmeyer2738 that is an acceptable outcome
@@jacobmeyer2738 Goofy comment
This is literally one of the worst acting I've seen in cinema history. The acting of Galadriel I mean. It looks so forced and fake. Most of LOTR is this way
@@arcsaber1127 Then you haven't watched much cinema at all. that is what you call, a "self-own".
It is funny that Galadriel used phial to expel Sauron while Frodo used it as a flashlight xD
Galadriel had much more power to amplify thru the phial than Frodo did.
@@unremoved And she basically used up all the light.
All diminishes.
And turn away Shelob, the nightmarish immortal brood of Ungoliant.
@@crazzanthictlabbar1056 True, both Frodo and Sam used to burn and blind (temporarily) Shelob.
I believe it’s her specter form when she uses the power of the unseen word. But Damn slapped that fly good.
Love the Lady Elve. ❤
when she said, "you have no power here", i expected her to continue with, "begone, before somebody drops a house on you!"
🙂 And "I, too, can command the wind, sir!"
No one under 50 understood this reference.😂
@@kjmergen isn't that sad? youngsters have no clue what they're missing in old hollywood.
@@kjmergen Beg to disagree. I am 32. I understood the reference to Elizabeth - one of Cate Blanchett's unforgettable roles.
Actually from the wizard of oz (1939) Glenda to the Wicked Witch of the West.
Came here after watching RoP S2 finale 😭💜💜 Don't mess with Lady G!!
They’ve done an excellent job thus far. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Go watch the episode breakdowns from Nerd of the rings. He is good
"You should have stayed dead!" So freaking awesome!
Christopher Lee...🥺😔😢🌹
Saruman has certainly got the moves pity he did a Darth and turned to The Darkside 🌟⚡️💥☠️✨
This is just a perfect scene ...
All of it makes more sense after Silmarillion. One comes to realize that from the creation of Arda, magic in this world was a 'finite' resource. As ages came and went those who wield it became less enthusiastic to spend it (carelessly.) Such demonstrations always left them fatigued and magically spent,..because they were. Gandalf knew the key was to get the villains to spend theirs out of anger, hatred, malice and jealousy. They're easiest to manipulate that way. Note how Gandalf rarely spent his magic, preferring to rely on cunning and alliances within the natural world. At the end Morgoth and Sauron basically 'spent' themselves out of magical leverage.
Love this thought! Gandalf's bearing of the ring helps him live a longer life, and spread hope to those around him, but that's it's innate ability, as an accessory, if you will. I think he used it to defeat the Balrog, but I think that also sent him back to Eru Iluvatar; It was enough to kill him.
Profound! As your thoughts apply to real life as well!
yes, tolkien invented mana
Magic is not finite, why are you saying something like this.
Evil diminishes, because it has to pour itself in good things in order to corrupt them.
Hurin tells something like this to Morgoth:
"Do you you forget to whom you speak? Such thinn things you long ago to our fathers [....] And now we have kowledge of you, fo we have looked on the faces that have seen the light, and head voices that spoke with Manwe. Before arda you were, but others also: Neither you are the most mighty for you have spent your strenght upon yourself and wasted it in your own emptiness"
Magic itself is not a finite resource, as long as you use it for good
@@TomFreecss
Indeed.
I don't understand where OP gets that from.
It's not in the Sil.
And OP + poster who said Gandalf lived longer because of the red ring doesn't understand LotR.
Gandalf isn't mortal, he's Miar, an eternal spirit.
Do not fuck with Galadriel.
But Gandalf literally wanted to fuck Galadriel?
Celeborn said.
Halbrand enters chat: I begs to differ.
@@Sknerus89 We are speaking about the true history of Arda, not fan/fun-fiction from Amazon.
@@Fjertil you make it sound like these are real events bro
The prequels prove Elrond to be the wisest in middle earth
Imagine having a Rings of Power Galadriel like this.
Or the Elves looking like actual warriors, like this Elrond.
Imagine Rings of Power never existing.
Back when fighting sauron' eye was harder than fighting his true self. Should be go around
I always have been a fan of Galadriel... Such a strong character...
Agent Smith is good with the sword.
This shows how heartbreaking Saramun’s corruption was.
Cate Blanchet as Lady Galadriel is sooooo perfect, so powerful, and so beautiful!
They are times in real life one need a ladie of light to get rid of some life problems.
Erendil
Elrond in this shows how Elves SHOULD look in RoP - not the wimpy losers Amazon created.
A superb performance by Benedict Cumberbatch as Sauron.
These movies are not even close to the books but won awards after awards. The series is not even close to the books and get trashed. I think it's a generation thing.
@@JohnJ-p7o Umm, I thought we were talking about Benedict Cumberbatch
Sod off!
@@JohnJ-p7o Is this a generational thing to completely ignore what the person was saying and only interjecting to say something completely unrelated to that? Or is this your personal thing? People criticized Hobbit trilogy too, genius.
@@JohnJ-p7o Hobbit films didn't win "awards after awards". The LOTR films did. And they were truly great, regardless of how closely they adapted the books.
The Lady Galadriel goes Super-F*cking-Saian Mode.
*ROP: When your old fling texts you after 6 months...
This scene with Sauron is the best. I am a huge Tolkien fan and this scene was like one out of the silmarillion with Melkor.
if your a Tolkien fan you would hate scenes like this their not in the book
@@matthewhughes3749 This was in the books it was when the white councell expelled sauron look it up. I have read most of Tolkien/
@@matthewhughes3749 When Sauron re-emerged in the Third Age, he established Dol Guldur on Amon Lanc after T.A. 1000. His corrupting shadow, known only as the "Necromancer", came over Mirkwood, and as a result Thranduil led his people away. The Council of the Wise long feared the Necromancer might indeed be Sauron; Gandalf himself entered Dol Guldur a couple of times, finally confirming that Sauron was its master. At first Saruman opposed the idea of an attack, as he was secretly searching for the One Ring in the area by then, but later, fearing that Sauron was also looking of the Ring, he finally agreed to an attack in 2941.[1]
The Battle
Gandalf carefully planned the attack to occur at the same time as the Quest of Erebor, knowing that Sauron and Smaug could not assist each other.[source?] After leaving Thorin and Company at the outskirts of Mirkwood,[2] he joined the White Council and they marched against the great fortress.
Little is known of the actual battle. It is unclear if this was simply a duel between great powers, or if it involved the use of armies of any kind. Thanks to the devices of Saruman the Wise, Sauron was driven out from Dol Guldur.[3] However, having already made his plans, he fled to his ancient realm of Mordor.[1]
Aftermath
With victory theirs, Gandalf immediately left for Erebor, where he would take part in the Battle of Five Armies.[4] After these events, Gandalf and Elrond discussed their victories and agreed that it would be better if the Necromancer were banished from the world altogether.[5]
However, Dol Guldur was not destroyed; it remained standing, staffed by the lieutenant of Barad-dûr, and later Khamûl.[6] It was not until the War of the Ring that the fortress was finally destroyed.
Then maybe you can help. I have the Silmarillion, the book, but I can't read it. Half into the first chapter I gave up. I love Tolkien, no problem with the Hobbit, ect, What am I not getting?
The language is so archaic, it's like reading Shakespeare but he is easier.
She looks very scary when she shouts "Go!" at 3:10 . I wish she looked and sounded like this further down the scene.
There is no tempest in this Galadriel. But strength. Something Amazon can’t reproduce
Younger Galadriel was impetuous. You are watching her finally evolve into the Galadriel of the LOTR films
@@alexanderstopka4957 😂🤣
@@alexanderstopka4957 She's at least a thousand years old in the show, yet she acts like a teenager in the first season...
@@Calvini2013 Yeah, but what enemies, what dangers, what hard to overcome threads did she deal with before? Not any almost. Elvish Years are count differently, and age means nothing, experience does.
@@alexanderstopka4957 you are a bundle of sticks
Willy's dad is not just a great dentist I see.
*Willy's ? Or Willard Wilbur's, if we're being technical lol
@@AndrewWood94 haha oops. Corrected it
Sauron got clapped. This is a great action sequence!
Galadriel was the favorite student of Melian, which was one of the strongest sorcerers of Arda, she put a barrier around Gondolin which lasts an age, how amazon imagined Galadriel with a two-hander sword is far off character and shitty😵💫
She needed a teen like, woke and strong woman (as in angry) you know. They "empowered" an already powerful character, by making it prone to tears and with a fragile mental health. It ticks all the woke boxes.
At least it wasn't a black islamic trans latina XD
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@@loloflores123you’re a virgin aren’t you? 😂
Her tenderness towards Gandalf .... she's sweet on him. :)
Elrond stepping out in golden armor always lifts my heart.
I bet she needed a cup of tea after that
As much as this scene is amazing from an action and special effects point of view, it irks me a bit: -
1. It has elevated Galadriel's position too much: she alone could not have stood against Sauron in that way, essentially solo-bitchslapping him from Dol Guldur all the way to Mordor. It's very clear in the book that it took the combined efforts of the White Council - including a healthy and hale Gandalf the Grey, as well as Saruman - to drive Sauron from Dol Guldur.
2. Similarly Gandalf's role was diminished to mere captive here.
3. Having had the apparent strength to bitchslap Sauron as described in (1), it's very odd how the moment before that, Galadriel has wilted like an unwatered flower in the presence of evil, she was even dismayed by the presence of the Nine. She is a Noldor princess of Valinor, neice to the mighty Fingolfin who stood truly alone in a far more terrible place - before the Gates of Angband - fighting a far more terrible foe - Morgoth - without wilting like that. She is the neice of Feanor, who stood and fought against _multiple_ Balrogs, sister to Finrod Felagund who stood forth against Sauron and sang a magical duel against him, and who killed a werewolf whilst a captive and unarmed. The Light of the Trees was still in her eyes and she learned from Melian the Maia herself. Whether she could win against the Nine alone or against Sauron is immaterial - she would not have been drained like that before even casting her spell.
4. Cool as it is to see Elrond fight here (and well, and with cool armour and sword), Hugo's delivery of "You should have stayed dead" was in the same exact deadpan vocal tone as his other role as Agent Smith from the Matrix, to the point where I was expecting him to add in "...Mr Anderson." I'm very able to distinguish him as Elrond visually from Smith, but when they also sound the exact same, it's immersion-breaking.
5. I'm fairly sure all Nine Nazgul were not at Dol Guldur at this time. Some where in Mordor and Minas Morgul, preparing the way for the return of their master. Probably, Khamul was there, since he was known to be the Lieutenant of Dol Guldur. The presence of all Nine here diminishes Sauron's power greatly in the mind of the viewer, in addition to what I described in (1). The point was, it took the _whole_ White Council to drive _just_ Sauron (and maybe Khamul) from Dol Guldur...and in Sauron's weakened state. That should give you an idea of how powerful Sauron was at his peak.
She just needed to lay on the floor to trick the enemy to get closer
yeah i both love and hate this scene, but at least its fun. More than we can say for the rings of power. If you are going to shit on the story, at least make it fun.
I don't agree with your 4th point. The others I thought were very good takes on the Professor's work. However I enjoyed Hugo's performance in the PJ movies. His demeanor is authoritative yet calming. 'It is the unemotional, reserved, calm, detached warrior who wins...' ~ ST. The line you mentioned could be perceived boastful but is was delivered with little to no emotion. Not so much a boast but a statement of fact. In contrast, his performance of Mr. Smith was filled with emotion (strange since he was playing a machine). Every line he delivered in the Matrix movies was dripping with contempt for humanity and NEO's relentless pursuit of choice. To equate the two characters based on the actor's voice would be like saying Alonzo Harris and Silas Trip are the same person (Denzel Washington). Both are rebellious and foul mouthed. Both depicted by the same actor. Yet clearly different characters that evoke very different responses from an audience. With all of the comments regarding the Amazon garbage (many of which I agree with), I enjoyed yours the most in this thread. Very thoughtful.
@@frank4871 Oh I generally enjoy his performances too, it's just that one line which made me think of Agent Smith straight away. Otherwise, he's fantastic.
1 to 2. This didn't work for me so well, either. Much as I adore Cate Blanchett's portrayal of Galadriel, on the occasions when Hollywood makes female heroes seem vastly more powerful by making the male heroes look weaker, it breaks my suspension of disbelief. It prompts me to wonder if it's driven by contemporary fashion rather than by the story.
3. I did wonder for a moment about that, but then I assumed her fear was because she detected the presence of Sauron, part of her weakness was that she used a lot of power to revive Gandalf, and then while she appeared to be weak, she was drawing power into herself to prepare for that sudden attack to expel Sauron from Dol Guldur - an attack that completely drained her.
4. Didn't trouble me. But then I've only seen the first Matrix, and only once.
5. I think this is poetic licence. While it may be true from the lore of the books that the Nine were probably not there when the White Council moved against Dol Guldur, having all nine present made for more drama. Besides, in the actual book, Sauron wasn't expelled, he withdrew to wait for when he had built up more of his power. A fine part of a story that was about Bilbo, but boring if the Hobbit film trilogy was to show a sub-plot of the White Council against Sauron. For me, the best part of the scene was watching Nazgul fight, die, and then almost immediately revive to fight again.
she looks like a wife when u dont give money to her when she gets mad
THIS is what a powerful female looks like in Tolkien's world. You do not need to be a "battle maiden" to be strong or valued.
I know most of Saruman's scenes were a stunt double, but it's so easy to imagine Christopher Lee kicking serious ass in the White Wizard's last act of true goodness.
Perhaps I treated the Hobbit series of movies too harshly after watching rings of power. SIGH. At least this still has some semblance of homage to Tolkiens original vision
Besides they did it rushed by a production that didn't give them even a storyboard. Fortunately RoP isn't popular or people would interpret this scene as a fight between lovers 😵💫
@@ReinoldFZ I didn't care for the first few ROP so i quit watching but when season 2 arrived I went back and started watching. I'm glad I did. I think sometimes we can let your prejudices affect our perceptions too much. Many things I dont like I end up liking later but I am so sure it's bad until it isn't.
@@ReinoldFZ A spat.
@@mikeyoung9810 It's crap, sorry.
@@mikeyoung9810 imo all of ROP is trash and an insult to the original works.
I love how Peter contrasted the Light of Galadriel surrounded by darkness.
My favorite action is Galadriel's power on display to settle that fight.
But my second...: is Elrond walking into that battle with grace and conviction and calm... to be such a savage fighter.
I WISH that Peter would make a movie about Elrond with Hugo Weaving playing him...
beginning in the first age.
I mean... imagine that.
Saruman fighting it's very good 👍
Apparently, Christopher Lee was an expert swordman.
Galadriel was amazing here.
This scene hits different after S2 of TROP. Bitter exes lol.
I just realized that Sauron addressed her as, "Artanis!" That is her Valinorean name.
Amazon’s Galadriel could never match this display of raw power.
Amazons Galadriel is at least 4800 years younger than this Galadriel....
@@BrunoKrugel17 ok shill
Or grace
For a moment I thought Galadriel became SAMARA from the movie THE RING! 😅😅 If so, she could have killed him for good. 😅😅
2:24 when the english honors teacher revives their favorite gay.
This hits different watching, The Rings of Power
Video posted a year ago yet all the comments are from within the last day.
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Hahahahhaaa
The algorithm, ya know?
3 new episodes from the series came out
@@WhoGitDaBiscuit Did the algorithm delete all comments that were more than a few days old?
You know what? I wouldn't be surprised at this point...
How is the music theme called that sets in at 03:01 (conversation Galadriel and Mithrandir)?? It is beautiful!
such a badass scene
1:21 Agent Smith has entered the Interrogation Room!
Elrond when Galadriel starts glowing: oh shit!
Saruman earning his colors.
Is it just me or is that, by far, the most terrifying orc @0:08 than in any of the hobbit or LOTR movies? Hell, he's scarier than Sauron.
It’s funny because had she done that an age ago, there wouldn’t be a series 😅
but sauron is super smart and always escape
She wasnt as strong then as she is in this scene
Back then she didn’t have an Elvin ring 💍 of power.
I know right?
She had to learn how to do that an age ago she was young and a warrior
A true leader must possess greater strength than those they lead, for when the momentous battles of life arise, it is they who must stand at the forefront, rising boldly to face the challenge and inspire others to follow
LOVE THAT SCENE! YES!😊
Now this is the Galadriel I like to see.
Lady Galadriel really kicked Sauron's ass. Better not piss her off.
I honestly don't remember this scene. Which movie was it in?
The Hobbit, 2nd part I think
Seeing the 9 fight is really one of my favorite fights in the entirety of the Lord of the Rings. The Witch-king of Angmar, The Dark Marshal, Khamûl The Easterling, The Betrayer, The Shadow Lord, The Undying, The Dwimmerlaik, The Tainted, and The Knight of Umbar. I want to see how The Rings of Power sets up who they are and how they get their names.
I like THESE epic moments in middle earth history. The stuff of fables from that world; When the lead Istar (before his fall) and 2 ancient elves who wield Vilya and Nenya, two of the Elven Rings, protecting another Istar, Olorin/Mithrandir/Gandalf, wielder of the secret fire, bearer of Narya, the ring of fire, the ring of hope, given to him by Cirdan, take on the ENTIRETY of the darkness Sauron personally poured himself into with the Nine Nazgul. Thankfully they were only spirits, and had not yet retained their full form...
The fact that Galadriel, in the Rings of Power, was given the 9 by Celebrimbor to keep safe, makes me feel like her shock and horror at looking upon the Nazgul here, is evidence of her suddenly being filled with the guilt and the weight of the responsibility that was given to her in that moment with him, and how she failed and it's led them to this. Her use of Nenya with the power of light was also probably power derived due to the council given to her by Celebrimbor. The phial that she has imbued with the light of Earandil's star would also be the thing that saves Sam and Frodo from Shelob. Interesting that it is the object that helps Galadriel and the power of the ring of water to expel Sauron into the east.
Then in comes the OTHER remaining Istar, Radagast the Brown Wizard, to save Gandalf! This scene is EVERYTHING
Her getting mad like that, being absolutely sick and fucken tired of that pos’s behavior, going maybe even darker than him and doing something about it, feels so good for some reason
Lot of folks with that "glass is half empty" perspective on the internet. It just feels so much smarter to hate everything and everyone but it takes al ot less courage since it's easier to fit in.
Amazing 🦕💕
I bet This is how the Silmarillion should look
both Galadriel's were so beautiful; Saruman kicked ass
0:09 She went a lil overkill with that one lmao
can't believe this is the same scary Sauron as sensitive Sauron in rings of power season 2 lmao
when WB reboot Harry Potter please don't have voldemort cry also lol
Hey Elrond came to help his mother-in-law like the dutiful son-in-law he is.
Even this part is not so similar to the Tolkien pages, Jackson did a great job ! Legend is legend, in any case, and Galadriel is it !!
I haven't watched much of "Rings of Power," but I have seen what they did to Galadriel. They took a very powerful elf and made her a regular warrior. I thought it was an insult to Galadriel.
"Mister Anderson!"
What power did she use exactly? The ring or that vial of light thingy?
In witch one is this please?
I don’t know why people hate the Hobbit movies so much. This scene is so awesome. I mean Peter Jackson did his best with the short amount of time he was given to get things going. I mean he made three bloated movies but they’re still entertaining to watch.
1:42 mage is tanking instead of nuking with range with OP +10 STR staff
This is the last time we see Saruman acting as an actual hero. Too bad.
Galadriel reveals her actual spirit form one other time, when she talks about accepting the Ring. It would interesting seeing what Saruman and Gandalf's true forms are, but we never got that.
They completely ruined the character of Galadriel in the rings of power .... she should never have been a sword weilding angry xena the warrior princess type more rash, seemingly childish and quick to silly mistakes.
She in the book was the strongest female character who faced sauron. She was an ethereal, ageless, powerful and wise sorceress as depicted by Kate Blanchett.
none of us start off all powerful. She had to earn that strength. i haven't read the Silmarillion, so i don't know if Galadriel's ROW depiction fits in with that, but there is a Tolkien involved in the production. Why know Sauron rises to power, and is destroyed during Galadriel's life, so clearly she does fail to stop him. She was never an all powerful 'Xena' character in the book. Personally, I found Jackson's portrayals of the lord of the rings characters to be rather flippant and one dimensional. He also left out the entire 'homecoming'- best bit in the book.
If you understand the source material, the Galadriel of LOTR has taken thousands of years to evolve.
@@roberts5539 Galadriel is about 5,000 years old at the time of the Rings of Power. She was born in the equivalent of Heaven learning from gods and angels, when she traveled to Middle-earth she was tutored by another "angel", Melian, for hundreds if not a thousand years. She was one oldest elves in Middle-earth during the 2nd and 3rd age. Peter Jackson portrayed her far better than Amazon, Inc.
@@RedHuntsman not as good as Tolkien though.
Except for one tiny detail: that is Galadriel. In her younger years, she was prideful and, yes, rash. She participated in the revolt, fought in it, and angered the Valar to the point that they outright banned her from ever returning to Valinor. She journeyed to Middle Earth out of ambition, to rule her own kingdom. At a certain point she openly scorned Annatar (Sauron in disguise), who (by being calm, pleasant and forgiving) turned the other elves against her.
The elves may be immortal, but they still change. Galadriel, over thousands of years, grew past her pride and lust for dominion. That's how she became the character that we see in LOTR. Even for elves, wisdom and majesty is earned, not inherent. Her character in Rings of Power is broadly consistent with how Tolkien wrote her, with additional flare in the show.
A few random observations: Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, and Sauron as fellow Maiar would have known each other for probably hundreds of thousands of years before this scene occurred. Gandalf would have also known the Balrogs (also fallen Maiar) including Durin's Bane that "killed" him. Galadriel is Elrond's mother-in-law and grandmother to his three children.Think about that the next time you watch them in Rings of Power! His wife, Celebrian, went to the Undying Lands centuries before he did, and would have been there waiting to be rejoined with him, their children, and her parents Galadriel and Celeborn. The only one who didn't make it there to be reunited was Arwen Evenstar. Question: As Half-Elven would Arwen's children with Aragorn have the choice to be Human or Elf?
Probably yes.
I also find it curious how Galadriel is presented as the strongest here even though she is only an elf. I would think Saruman, as a Maiar would be more powerful even given that Galadriel had a ring of power & Saruman didn't. I think that even given the constraints the Valar placed on the Wizards that Saruman would be more powerful than Galadriel
Why did they make it look like Galadriel was loosing power as she saved Gandalf? Drama? Let's be true to her actual power and strength
No, Eldarion and his sisters (?) will not have the same choice as Elrond and Elros or the status of an peredhil as Beren and Luthiens son Dior. He will stay mortal.
No, their children will not be given the choice, because their mother is the Evenstar, she is already a half-Elf. So, her one-quarter Elven children would be mighty, but they would be strictly mortal.
great scene
1:18 When the rest of the squad rolls up..
If Sauron's goal here was to retrieve Gandalf's elven ring, as was suggested in a cut scene before this one, Galadriel and Elrond rocking up with the other two was hardly the wisest move.
Sauron was just recovering his old dark body by this time, he had no power to oppose the white council together at this time.
And he didn't have the ring either.
So, he retreated to Mordor.
We sée what an asset Saruman could have been if he had stayed on the side of good. 🤔
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Honestly I wish they didn't make her light form sound so demonic and dark with multiple voices
Like Sauron is the dark one, she's supposed to be more light and angelic
Shés wearing a ring made by him
@@jaydeepalmer Wtf she's not. All three elvish rings were made by Celebrimbor without Sauron. Sauron didn't know about it and that why he could not rule them.
@@maweupe5395 Didn't Sauron taint the Elvish rings after he created the 7 Dwarf and 9 King rings. Because I read that's why the Elves refuse to use them. One was given to Gandalf (fire ring) in the book.
@@maweupe5395sorry to pop the bubble, dahling, but all rings of power were made from Sauron's knowledge, including the 3 elven rings. That's why it's 1 ring to rule them all.
Perhaps Galadriel's voice was meant to be one of overtowering, supernatural power. Wouldn't be the same if she spoke with a delicate, high voice.