Why is Galadriel so powerful? [ Lord of the Rings l The Hobbit l Tolkien ]
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Hey everyone! *EDIT: I mention Feanor "wounded a god seven times. My apologies! My memory failed me off the cuff - that was Fingolfin.* I'd like your opinion. I'm thinking of doing a video on the changes in Lord of the Rings between the book and the film - exploring why they worked/didn't work, and how they impacted the narrative. This would be a sort of blend between a LotR lore video and an On Writing video. Would you like to see that? QotD: what's a song you love that you'd love other people to listen to as well?
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Hello Future Me hi I'm a massive fan I live in New Zealand
i think it would be an interesting idea mate
The LotR video sounds cool! As for which song I want people to listen to... The Queen of the Night's Aria. It's an opera song that is complex, beautiful, and slightly terrifying. And it's brilliant!
I'd watch it. And while it isn't a song per se, I'd recommend the theme from Armaggedon.
Star Sky by Two Steps From Hell, LITERALLY EVERYTHING by Alan Walker and Fly Away and Run Wild. The list goes on and on, but I will stop here. ;)
me at 3am with work at 9am: I think it's really important to know why Galadriel is so powerful
LOL Ninja :)
at 6am :'(
Rofl
5 am for me currently
Real world problem.
Shes pretty old... shes had time to grind and level up.
wells she's a asgardian
Jasson Quill *an Asgardian
She farmed the Giant Lord 200 times. iykyk
Lmao
Ohris 🤣🤣🤣
You missed the greatest show of her power, a small box of soil from her garden that healed the whole of the shire. I feel like this is always over looked. My compost works wonders but not like that.
She knew destroying the one ring would drain the power from her ring and cause the elves to begin to fade yet she sacrificed all to preserve and restore Middle Earth. She is one of the heroes of the story.
Isn't that also why she left for Valinor in the west?
one thing id like to touch on is that galadriel is also hilarious. feanor asked 3 times for a single strand of her hair, and she refused to give it to him. but when gimli asks for a single strand, she gave him 3. I always thought that was great and wanted to share
What a boss 😎 😂
She was touched by Gimli’s clear affection for her. It’s a much bigger deal for a dwarf to be kind to her over someone else.
It's even better than that :
Her hairs are imbued with the light of the Trees, making them extremely powerful on their own. And that's her refusal to Feanor which motivated him to craft the Silmarils.
Given that, after the destruction of the One Ring and the departure of the Eldar to Valinor, it is pretty safe to say that the jewel containing the three strands of Galadriel that Gimli forged is, in fact, the most powerful artefact of Middle Earth in the fourth age, and the only reminder of the light of the Trees (except the star of Earendil). Not bad for a Dwarf...
Yep but also because she knew Feanor was greedy, whereas Gimli was not.. That was why Gimli was an Elf-friend, and Feanor was not...
Galadriel is so powerful because she’s Cate Blanchett 🧝🏻♀️👸🏼
Not even going to lie. I liked her much better as hela. She was smoking hot in ragnarok.
Honestly. Cate Blanchett is so powerful.
Because she have Cate Blanchett, that's why she's so powerful.
@@jibblesq You're not wrong!
You couldn't have put it better
Galadriel returning to Aman in the end always gets to me. She is the only Noldor exile who overcomes the Curse of the Valar. Feanor, Fingolfin, Finrod, all powerful in their own right but only Galadriel survives. And in a way by defeating Morgoth's last and greatest servant, she finally completes the terrible journey of the Noldor that Feanor started.
I’ve never actually looked at it that way but it makes sense when I think about.
Cate Blanchett's funky smile makes all the more sense now
Actually, after the War of Wrath the Noldor were all forgiven and invited back to Valinor. Not all Elves accepted either of pride or love of Middle Earth. So Galadriel could well have gone back to Aman long before the War of the Ring. Maybe you are might in that she still had something to prove as far as opposing Sauron. Funny how the Valar always left some unfinished business...
Correct my lore recollection but I think the critical achievement that led to her returning West was not the downfall of Sauron, but rather of being offered the One Ring and refusing it. She had previously declined to return after the War of Wrath, possibly out of pride, and a continued desire to rule her own realm; by declining the One Ring, she symbolically surrenders that pride, and truly moves past the Curse.
@@theodoreshisler9713 I believe this is correct. Right after she is offered the One Ring and "passes the test", she states that now that she had passed the test, she will return to Valinor. So, I think you're correct, and that was her main motivation/reason for staying in Middle Earth.
She has a twin called Hela, also very powerful
lol... that waz good.
She was hela before repent..
Lol
Im ctfu 😂😂
Whoa! Didn't remember that. I wrote a book with a character called "Hella". She also had blond hair. Wicked. Thank you.
She's arguably the most powerful Elf in Middle-Earth, old enough to witness the Two Trees of Valinor, having survived the most destructive periods in history and wields Nenya.
You could the exact same of Círdan and he's got a beard too.
Tolkien's idea of Elves is that they were the First Race, and Men were the Second Race. Both intrinsically great but differently. Elves were immortal but faded over the ages. Men lived short but intense lives, each generation anew living out as Men do. I think the idea is to marvel about ages past and what might have been. And in part it's a reflection of historical folk lore which had its own elves and dragons et cetera.
She was born in Aman, the Undying Lands. She saw light of the Two Trees, which makes her a High Elf That means at the time of LoTR, she was only High Elf remaining in Middle Earth. And she was the granddaughter of both Finwe, High King of the Noldor, and Olwe, High King of the Teleri. So she was a very powerful elf in Aman and one of the oldest too. Elrond is the second most powerful elf in middle earth. His lineage is very impressive too. He is a direct descendant of Finwe(Noldor) and a direct descendant of Thingol, High King of the Sindar. Thingol was a High Elf too. Elrond also had Ainur blood in him from Melian the Maia, who was wife of Thingol. And finally Elrond descended from Beren, who was from a royal house of men.Cirdan the Shipwright was third most powerful, being one of the oldest elves in Middle Earth and Sindarin Lord closely related to Thingol.
Elrond is actually halfelf, gifted with power of immortality so in hes being he undrestand humanity
Local782 What about glorifindel?
"ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND THIS BEAR!" Bear: oh shit!
Drosne Lochmir ALL SHALL LOVE ME IN THIS PEAR!
Was she referring to Beorn who changes into a bear? The Hobbit book and movie.
+adidas78937
Wait... is that a Pear of Anguish?
Yeah, Now there will be a battle to take down the Pear of Anguish. The Free People of Middle Earth vs the Pear of Anguish. Sauron will be laughing his head off at the stupidity of the free people and his army joining with the free people all together to fight a Pear. Only in Fanfiction that this will happen.
Drosne Lochmir roflmao
Short answer: She's super old, from a super noble family, has lived in Valinor, inherently was a bit magic, and possesses one of the 3 Elven rings.
and a asgardian goddess of death
@@JassonQuill
1. An*
2. No, she's not
And plot armor out the yin-yang.
@@_Abjuranax_
How, exactly?
@@Richard_Nickerson If you don't have plot armor, no amount of badassery will ever save you from the author.
Did you know "In The Lord of the Rings, the filmmakers used a special lighting rig for Galadriel so that her eyes appear to reflect the starlight. This is because Galadriel is the last Elf in Middle-Earth to have seen the light of the Trees of Valinor." courtesy of reddit
You forgot Glorfindel !
What about shelob
Karel Sirjacq I think there are some who say that the Glorfindel in lotr was just a younger elf named for the original.
Carlo Marasigan Nope, Elves have individual names, that are not repeated. And the LOTR Glorfindel was a “high elf” a Noldor lord. and when he revealed his power at the ford of Bruinen, he shines with a blinding light. That light is the reflection of the light of the two trees.
@@ggbel3320 You shut your mouth.
She is 13k (edited) years old. A Noldor elf. And has a ring of power. That answers your question in 5 seconds.
Rombizio
It's JUST a movie! Answered in 3 seconds. I Win!
@@madgary5017 Actually is a series of books
Rombizio ; Galadriel was the daughter of Fingon and was only 8400 years old as she was born in Valinor before the destruction of the Two Trees.
@@MountainFisherActually I checked and she is even younger. She was born in 1362 First Age. That ended in 1500 but those years are Valinor years with 1 year equal 10 solar years. That puts her at 1380 years old plus 3441 from the Second Age plus the 3019 until the One Ring is destroyed. Total is 7840.
@@Rombizio I get about 8373 years for her versus Cirdan or as he was known when he was young as Nowe (kin to Olwe and Elwe called King Thingol) and was born between YOTT (YEAR OF THE TREES) 1050 to 1149 making him 10,412 to 11361 years old when Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf with Bilbo and Frodo sailed off to Valinor. He had two unusual features for an elf I bet you can guess them? He had grey hair and a beard, because he was so old. I got my figures from the video, "Who Is The Elf In The Background?" between 3 minutes and five minutes in he talks about Their Ages. He calculates her age when she met Frodo for the first time at the 8371 year old age. 9.582 solar years was a Two Trees year, so not exactly 10 years, but that 0.418 may not seem like much, but it adds up to 418 years every thousand years. I should live so long. here's the video where the poster, THE PHILOSOPHER GAMES PUTS HIS TIMELINES, BUT HE DOESN'T EXPLAIN HOW HE GOT AN OLDER AGE FOR GALADRIEL FROM THE SAME BIRTHDAY YOU GIVE FOR HER.
ruclips.net/video/JgcnVsMAnMo/видео.html
Good video, well documented. But to my mind you forgot a huge aspect of her power : her hair, imbued of the light of the Trees. Her hair which motivated Feanor to craft the Silmarils (for she refused to give him a single strand), starting all the events of the First Age.
In fact, giving Gimli three strands of her hair is arguably the greatest gift which any Eldar ever gave to a mortal being. And the jewel that Gimli craft to wield them might be the most powerful artefact of the Fourth Age of Middle Earth, for it is the last reminder of the Years of the Trees after the departure of Galadriel to Valinor.
Great observation!
The most interesting thing about the fantasy aspect of LOTR is it's inherent subtlety. The powerful characters just seem to hide their powers and barely ever reveal them
"Galadriel why is your land so beautiful"
"Nenya business"
Just some other trivia about Galadriel:
1) she was also skilled in athletics and fighting, at the same level of her brothers
2) she did not swore the Oath of Feanor, which ended in the Doom of Mandos: she also never did participate in the elf vs elf slaughters, so she was always free to return to Valinor at any time she wished.
3) she firmly refused to give one of her hairs to Feanor, even if he used all his wit to hard press her, but (and this is utterly significant of her gift of understanding) freely gifted Gimli, a dwarf, giving him three of them, when he asked for.
Pierluigi Di Pietro 2) the Ban of the Noldor applied to all who crossed the Great Sea. When it was lifted she refused to return, wanting to rule somewhere.
yes, she refused the pardon out of pride
Feanor asked 3 times for one of her hairs.. Gimli only ask for one once and she gave him 3 ...
David Hedges thats rough man. But maybe she saw the valor in gimlis heart
BlasterSW MW or maybe she had a crush on him... haha jk
So she can see into the Dark Lords mind, and can stop him from seeing in to hers... Enough said
Ishna Kapoor She is more powerful then Snape. Lmao
Ishna Kapoor that's fine cuz I'm watching Half Blood Prince right now lolz. But Lady Galadriel is op. Lmao
Yes very Harry Potter :)
You know it won't end there, Draw Daily. :)
So long as we can reply, there will always be a say from someone.
@RAvE ॐ no they aren't :D
Her husband Celeborn definitely does NOT wear the pants in that relationship.
She treated him with great respect.
She's one grade above him in terms of bloodlines, so no. She's not as strong as Peter Jackson's hard-on make her out to be. Elrond is a far more powerful individual being a direct descendant of Thingol and Finwé, and even Melian the Maiar, giving him Ainur blood. Another reason I dislike the movies, much as I adore Cate Blanchett's portrayal of the character. Even your joke feels misplaced. That fight she had with Sauron in The Hobbit? What a ton of crap. Sauron is a corrupted Maiar, possibly the strongest ever. She's merely a descendant of Finwé and Olwé. They're not nearly on the same level. Gandalf and Elrond also did not bow to her like struck dogs when in her presence. Not sure why PJ found it important to display it so.
@Ej MoreG Easy on the insults, that just proves this argument is personal for you.
Your long and dragged out repetitive comment almost draws attention away from one simple fact; Galadriel is an Elf. Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron on the other hand are all Maiar. They might as well be a rank 100 to Galadriel's rank 50 if you want it put in simpler terms. A boy looks up to a man, that man will look up to a lion, but then the lion still looks up to a rhinoceros. The same thing happens in PJ's adaptation only in reverse of the roles in which they should take place sadly.
That's all I'm going to say on that. I'm honestly not certain as to why you felt the need to grasp at straws so badly by assuming this was all about her gender, and downright calling me a triggered incel over an assumption you yourself made. My comment proposed nothing of the sort and it goes to show that you're the one gunning for a senseless debate over identity politics, and not me. I have read my comment through twofold thoroughly, and I quite literally never mentioned anything of the sort. I ask that you in the future reconsider the wording of your comments when you feel that same strange urge of making this about genders rather poor characterization bubbling to the surface. The former is an overused argument and, as a matter of fact, not an argument at all. It is a ploy for virtue points because you pose as the hero in the scenario, which will hopefully get you the likes you so badly want. It's pathetic to resort to it, and even worse to base your comment around it. Good day.
@Ej MoreG You're really not very good at sarcasm are you? I also love knowing that my name and the what I up until now thought to be an over obviously sarcastic description of mine triggered you so. It's precisely why I use both.
You say it's not personal for you, yet you're the one going onto my channel like the "incel" with nothing better to do. Your own statements contradict your earlier ones.
And finally, mocking my argument doesn't make it untrue, and you provided nothing to counter it beyond just that mockery. Galadriel is the lion, Saruman and Gandalf are the rhinos. They're on different levels.
Anyway, I can see now that you're not a level headed individual, so I'll simply stop. It's amusing to me how crazy the world has become when criticising the wrongly displayed portrayal of a female character without regards to her gender, and when indeed a very username like mine, can trigger some people so. Come to think of it, that makes you a sexist racist, so congratulations on that. Bye.
@@TheStraightestWhitest having read the Silmarillion and the three books twice and having watched all the movies. Let me correct you on a couple points.
Gandalf is oft considered to be one of the weaker ishtari or maiar. His true strengths rest in the moving of others deeds and actions. He is considered the wisest amongst the ishtari but is in no way shape or form as powerful as Sauron. Who was considered to be the strongest of the maiar as his progenitor Melkor was the strongest of the Valar.
Galadriel should not be considered or measured in raw strength as much like Gandalf her power rested in wisdom and knowledge, the moving and shaping of deeds. Her reverence from other characters is more than several times over mentioned to be in her fairness and presence of body and mind. She is old beyond measure being an Eldar, the first of the elvish folk. She resided in Middle Earth from the very first age and was involved heavily in many events where her notoriety and respect stemmed from.
While the movie over powered her slightly compared to book material pj portrayal was not THAT far off. She was considered to be one of if not the most highly respected, fair and beautiful, wise and gifted of elves deservedly.
One of the most incredible and awe inspiring thing about Galadriel is that despite being an Elf she is greater than most Maiar. Not because she was created great but because she worked her way to the top through dedicated study and thousands of years of experience.
This is wonderful. Galadriel is just an example of a being of Light that is naturally powerful, and indeed Tolkien was quoted to say his muse for her character was Mother Mary as a Catholic. Keep spreading more knowledge about the Elves, Mellon nin!
Yep, that's right!
I think the women in LOTR represent Mary, all three of them
Also, I remember reading a quote from Tolkien that Galadriel rivaled Feanor in areas other than arts and lore. He didn't say what these areas were, but implied that she was greater than Feanor in some ways.
In my opinion, why someone is powerful is always a more interesting question than how powerful they are. Sure, it's nice to have an established limit and all, but I always find the source of power a more interesting question than the power in and of itself.
As the truly powerful always do.
@Jay R Actually she has one of the three Elven Rings of Power with Gandalf and Elrond that is why but keeping in shape probably helps also
@Jay R But what does anime have to do with Tolkien? It is completely irrelevant
@@ArgonTheAware it's called not being a stuck up need and having a laugh
@@ryansauchuk7290 As they say "read the room" How was Gormathius Nightstrider comment deserving of that reply? Especially when it was mostly philosophical
Well, she saw the light of the Two Trees, and she was taught by Melian. How she guards Lorien against invasion is almost a smaller version of the Girdle of Melian. Just as Morgoth could not have conquered Doriath unless he personally came there, so too could Sauron not have conquered Lorien unless he personally stood upon the banks of the Anduin.
I actually like the scene in the Hobit movies where she drives Sauron out, because she's using the light of Earendil's Silmaril, which Sauron would ill like to see again. Not only is it hallowed by Varda and Iluvatar, like all three Simarils, but that one was specifically lost to Morgoth due to Sauron's own failure to defeat Luthien. After thousands of years of war, Morgoth lost one of the prized Silmarils because Sauron messed up; who knows what punishments Morgoth meted out to his lieutenant for that failure? And now an Elven Lady of the highest pedigree is shining it in his face again. What's more, she also has one of the Three Rings that escaped his grasp, and he is without the Master Ring. No wonder he fled over the horizon like that.
She doesn't have a Silmaril no one does. They were cast into the air sea and earth after Morgoth was defeated.
@@ryansauchuk7290 I didn't say she had a Silmaril, she has the light of a Silmaril, which is trapped in a vial of water from her Mirror. It's specifically the light of Earendil's Silmaril, which is the same one Beren cut from Morgoth's crown.
And Earendil has a Silmaril.
This Galadriel scene used to be a local meme when I was at school. Whenever someone would lose their temper it' go like 'WAGAHAHABLAGAHBABLLRRRR I passed the test."
lol
By the time of the War Of The Rings, She was one of the two Elves left in Middle Earth who were born in Valinor under the light of the two trees. Even Gil Galad and Celeborn, old as they are, never witness the light of the two trees.
This is so important. People don’t understand the gifts and knowledge she has. It’s not all about swords and fights. G’s power was eternal and deep rooted in time and understanding. She truly was a hero.
Galadriel also physically fought Feanor and his sons at Alqualonde when they ravaged the city and stole the Swan Ships. She then followed them to Middle-earth, helping to lead her group through the treacherous ice fields of the Helcaraxe - in total darkness, since this took place after the death of the Trees but before the creation of the Sun and Moon.
On a related note, Luthien, the half-Maia daughter of Melian (who tutored Galadriel) and Melian's Elvish lover Thingol, threw down the walls of another of Sauron's fortresses and laid bare its pits. Luthien's motive was to free her human lover Beren, but it just so happened that Galadriel's brother Finrod died in the same pit while saving Beren's life. Then, thousands of years later, Galadriel's granddaughter Arwen, a dead ringer for Luthien, duplicated her fate by falling in love with the human Aragorn. Unlike Elrond, Galadriel had had no problem with their marriage, probably because another of her brothers (Aegnor) fell in love with the human woman Andreth as described in Morgoth's Ring. So basically, Galadriel really has seen everything, understands and accepts everything, and is connected to everything.
Just a quick thought: elves did not use magic as we understand it, their gift from Iluvatar was to shape and heal the hurts of Ea. So, as is the case with Luthien, their greatest "power" was song, music. Tolkien explains it in his letter to his editor and it's actually a beautiful concept, where magic has to do with domination and (most) of the elves were not concerned with that.
And then there's Rings of Power Galadriel..
😪 wish I had friends like you so I could geek out on these things so openly
Same.
Ikr.
none of my friends watched or read LOTR
What are we, chopped liver?
Be who you are. I'm a total nerd of these books and openly geeky with my friends. They support me and even watched the movies with me lol
This is not only a channel about a man and his love for his cat.
This is also a channel with a bunch of fans for said cat, who occasionally listen to what the man says.
So true but we still love his content when we actually hear it
Cat dudes are cool
Wait, there’s a man in this video?
All I saw was a cat
I was wondering why the video was so long with said cat only appearing for a short cameo
I don’t give a damn about his cat.
Clearly all comments are just intended as funny shapes for the cat, the human just misinterprets them as meaningful comments on his videos.
Fingolfin was the one who dueled with Morgoth and wounded him 7 times.
Thank you! Glad someone else caught that, lol.
Yeah, but Feanor fought off numerous Balrogs for a long time. Gandalf had trouble killing one.
Indeed. And I think it can be argued that Galadriel is, if anything, greater in stature than he.
yes it's true galadriel has a very powerful stature.... but her power came from Aman and the light of Telperion and Silpion!! Feanor was born with the life of many... therefore he was gifted and powerful in many areas!! His misguided arrogance led to his death at the gates of Angband!! Galadriel kept her power in check...as it was needed when the Noldor were crossing the Helcaraxe!!
@@joeosoup never heard about using power to cross the Helcarxe, but it makes sense.
This -was- my first video. I support your adoration of your cat, and your occasional nerdy stuff.
Very nerdy, very interesting. I liked it.
Great video! I especially liked the subtle (very subtle) background music adds without being distracting (and what is it by the way?). Thank you for making this!
The key to understanding the power of Galadriel, is to focus more on the Maiar, Melian. In the Silmarillion, Melian was the only one in Middle-earth who could resist the most powerful Valar, Melkor/Morgoth. Melian, using her power of enchantment, surrounded her kingdom of Doriath from Morgoth. Morgoth never defeated Melian. Galadriel was a student of Melian. Just as Melian protected her kingdom from Morgoth, Galadriel protected Lothlorien from Sauron.
Josh Robertson; we’re on the same page. It’s about explaining why Galadriel was so powerful. Tolkien linked her as a pupil of Melian, the most powerful in using enchantment. In theory Morgoth could defeat Melian. But Melian’s daughter, Luthien, had success facing Sauron & Morgoth. She also got into trouble going on offense but on defense enchantment is more powerful & Melian was the master. She laid multiple traps in her woods. Why should Morgoth risk dealing with that? He had enough trouble with Ungoliant & Luthien. He decided to conquer the rest of Middle-earth & leave Doriath alone.
Josh Robertson; I think you brought up one of the most attractive things about the Tolkien myth. Valinor is a kind of pagan heaven, & Tolkien makes that a place many readers would want to see. The Two Trees. The different groups of Elves. Their ships. The beaches studded with gems. The halls, forests & mountains. The original home of the great Eagles. The councils of the Valar. And in the most beautiful gardens imaginable are incomparable songs sung by Melian.
bb1111116 You guys are such nerds about this and I am loving it. There isn’t a person whom I can geek out with about middle-earth.
Aleksander Järvinen; Tolkien created his own volumes of legends, commentaries, notes that rival actual mythical histories. For the Tolkien scholar, the Lord of the Rings (+ Appendices) & The Hobbit are just the beginning. The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales & The Children of Hurin will lead to many hours of exploration. But at a level deeper level, there are the volumes, Morgoth’s Ring & The War of the Ring which contain more texts & essays. And there is more. It’s an incredible world.
melian and galadirel BOTH tended the trees in lorien ... both learned from the vala and both had power and knowledge in excess of their kind because of the two trees ...as all who tended them were of the most powerful of all kinds
This was indeed my first video and the fact your a man who worships your cat (with some lore thrown in) means your doing correctly. After all we are but simple staff to them.
InFiHax my cat is my obedient slave! He serves me and all is right in the world.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 I think you have your species mixed up, and are actually referring to what we commonly call a "dog".
I’ve enjoyed watching a lot of your Tolkien related videos. You do a very good job.
being a fan of all things LOTR,and j.r.r. in general, i throughly enjoy these snippets of information. i consider myself knowledgeable enough to discuss or debate any subject matter concerning the history of middle earth, but you offer insights that i have not considered in my interpretations previously. keep them comeing, and thanks.
Jesse is the court jester? Cool, glad to see he has a role!
Just for some clarification on magic in the world of Tolkien for those that are curious: It's a system based on the natural laws of creation in that world and the vows made by the elements and Illuvitar. Most of the most powerful beings command the elements / these laws to abide their will by speaking to it or by making an oath. According to the commanders understanding and station the elements would honor them. This power is a portion of the Secret Fire (God's power) which is in all things. The Istari had nearly free command of more of it, and some of the Eldar by birth into older ages of the world could do the same.
"Magic/Sorcery" as we see in most fantasy worlds is a binding of the elements, trying to enchant/convince/force them to do ones will. That is a form of magic the Enemy uses in Arda. The elements are called to their oath or a perversion of it and so they must be bound and dominated by the will of the caster. So the result is not as full nor potent as an honored command of the same. Considering Tolkien's good "magic" is directly connected to the Secret Fire and Illuvitar makes this power a power which creates Ea, or all that is. Normal magics and magics of the Enemy are systems which imitate that order and fall short.
Love this.
~ Tim
Hello Future Me thanks! I always see people in the comments talking about magic in Arda and there seems to be a lot of confusion. So I felt I should expound.
Your content is awesome and I thoroughly enjoy it. Keep it up!
Well said! I write fanficiton and have my own theory of magic but that's neither here nor there. This is quite interesting! Side note: I don't know if you've ever read the novel or seen the miniseries adaptation of Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clark. It's an 800 plus page book that could Tolkien a run for his money. BUT it has one great weakness - it never explains the fundamentals of how magic works in its universe. As a result, the novel, while a sumptuous literary feast for most of the narration, ultimately falls flat at the end. Clark really could have benefit from a a rational theory like the one you expound here.
I would drink with you.
Being Heard Media well thank you, and I have not read the series. I’ve been trying to get back into reading novels recently. Usually I read historical, ancient religious text, and treatises. Also philosophy, sciences and then fantasy lore. Lol
I’m currently working on the Sword of Truth series I think it’s called. I’m on the second book, “Stone of Tears”.
Very well done. I look forward to viewing your other works.
Just found your Channel. WOH ... FANTABULOUS. Thank You.
Great video and would love the comparison between Movies and Books you suggested! Also appreciated the human you put in the video
I kind of wish you will tell me "the stories of middle earth" like bedtime stories for grown geek adults😊🌺
That'd be a great idea because he could read "the stories of middle-earth" and make it an audio-book thing that people could listen to.
Love your work and your enthusiasm for all things Tolkien, Sir.
I LOVE EVERYTHING TOLKIEN SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!! This is all great. I'd love to see a video on Beren and Lúthien! Their tale is such a beautiful story! And if y'all have any secret information on them and their story - well let's just say, I'M SUCH A NERD ABOUT ALL MEDIEVAL STUFF!!!
Nice Andalus font 👌
I just realised you use it in your videos (I think) too. Love your work!
~ Tim
OMG FAVES collab incoming challenge
I love this video. Despite the Hobbit movies being just okay, I absolutely loooooooooooooved her scene in the movie when she took down the necromancer. Bad ass.
Yay feminism and social justice. It should've been Gandalf.
@@aaronbarlow4376 that has nothing to do with it. The scene doesnt really appear in tolkien writing but she does obliterate dol guldur in a second so she is really powerfull. Gandalf isnt allowed to fight with all his strength
Aaron Barlow. Gandalf isnt even a man... so take your insecurity elsewhere.
Since the scene was concocted by the filmmakers, it "should have been" whoever they wanted. I thought the movies were pretty bad due to the liberties taken and the added action scenes.
Aaron Barlow gandalf isn’t a man. Galadriel is godly powerful and one of the wisest bieng in middle-earth. Galadriel focused a lot of her power on beating sauron and became very exhausted even tho Sauron was fairly weak in that state(compared to what he can do with all of his strength) and Gamdalf was already weak in that scene. Jesus christ stop with the ”femenism”
Great video, good background music and I love the cat references, a lot of fun and great info on Galadriel
So it's 2 am and it's 2020 and a there's a pandemic and we're all in quarantine and this is on my recommend. It's about time I know why galadriel is so powerful
That picture of Galadriel taking down Dol Guldur is from the BFME2 good campaign ending mate :) great video btw please do keep them up :)
Thank you! That game was really good, if I remember rightly.
~ Tim
Hello Future Me you obviously do not :D it was (and still is) awesome :D
I've always wanted to see her take down the walls of Dol Goldur. I mean seriously.
Andrija Barovic She came in like a wrecking ball....
Hello Future Me oh i've just realised ........ are you a Rolemaster or MERP Ref Tim ?
You’re one of the few who actually mentioned Tolkien’s religious backgrounds. I’ve read about it and it seems like many folks ignore it are just not aware. But it’s so essential to his person, like Flannery O’Connor, and it’s difficult to talk about this works without acknowledging it.
They're an important source of inspiration for him, and are thus important to talk about.
~ Tim
I honestly thought that when future me gave that disclaimer that "while Tolkien hated allegory" that he was going to say "Galadriel wasn't a direct representation of the Virgin Mary, but she unquestionably played a large influence on the character", but I do appreciate him bringing up Tolkien's Catholic faith as pivotal to understanding his motives and philosophy within his works.
TheJmlew11 It really is odd that it's ignored considering how many religious tones can be found throughout the books. People often bring up the influence that Norse/Germanic mythology had on Tolkien, but not his faith.
"You’re one of the few who actually mentioned Tolkien’s religious backgrounds. I’ve read about it and it seems like many folks ignore it are just not aware."
Because many fans of fantasy despise Christianity and can't handle how much Tolkien's work was influenced by his Catholicism.
It really amaze me how anglosaxon/germanic people never catchs the Catholic doctrine imbued in Tolkien's work.
Thank you - your explanation was really helpful.
She is a Empath . She knows the thoughts of others and she doesn't suffer fools gladly .
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I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, an leaves of gold there grew...
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Great lore video, I love your work!
Sunday evening. Just finished two RoP episodes and came to RUclips.
Now I stand Infront of the rabbithole of Tolkien lore. Wondering, do I dare jump in...
I thoroughly enjoyed this and I had no idea how involved the world of the Hobbit is. I'm trying to learn everything I can about it
6:31 "The Noldor were closest to the Valar" - Surely the Vanyar were?
Also, the Noldor rebelled, so... how could they possibly be the closest?
The Vanyar were the closest to the Valar for sure. Ingwe basically sat at the feet of Manwe.
R Nickerson not all of them those who remained true travelled to middle earth the rest perished
Wow. I could listen to this adorable man talk about anything, bit definitely glad for this video!
hey man i just found your channel and love the content.. in this video you mention the lore of the rings in lotr.. you should definitely make a video about that if you haven't already.. i couldn't find one and searching your channel for things like ring, lore or keywords like that isn't particularly helpful to find it.. :D
but i think this would be really interessting as hell!
have a nice christmas!
Feanor never fought Morgoth, it was his brother Fingolfin.
Presyden
Yes, it puzzled me too. The 7 wounds thing...
I just paused the video to see if anyone commented on it so I wouldn't have to.
Yeah, I always got the impression Fingolfin was just as powerful as Feanor. Can't imagine Galadrial going toe to toe with Melkor.
@@rufusmcgee4383 She easily could. As even back then easily bested the elven princes of valinor, including Feanor. So yes, the her then and ESPECIALLY the her CURRENTLY could quite easily handle melkor. Not to mention have a field day with the Balrog of Moria. She as many elves were known to surpass the maia and Valar. The istari were usually limited purposely from unleashing their full powers. As Galdalf said "I'd wield this ring from a desire to do good. But through me it would wield a power to great and terrible to imagine."
Perhaps, but if that were true I would have thought she would have played a larger role in both the second age and early third age or even the first age, but she was overshadowed by the likes of Melian, Luthien, Gil-Galad, Fingolfin, Earendil, the Witch King, Celebrimbor, the list goes on. No question she was most powerful elf during the WOTR but I get the impression that the bar was much lower at that point. If she was as powerful as you say, she let a lot of things go bad on her watch and had a lot of other people do the heavy lifting for her needlessly.
Great video!!! You should do one about Tom Bombadil next.
what you havent figured it out... tom was Ea in person .. nothing in middle earth had power over him ... but he also didnt do anything to change middle earth as he said after creating the world he left that task to the children ... who's job it was to make what they had seen from their song
So money that you even delved into this topic. Thank you
Awesome video!
Lord of the rings is literally my childhood still love the story
Feanor didn't injured Melkor/Morgoth 7 times that was Fingolfin
Great show thanks
great video!
Just a small correction. You say Feanor “wounded a god seven times.” I’m assuming you’re referring to Morgoth here? But it was Fingolfin who fought Morgoth 1v1 and wounded him seven times, not Feanor.
Of the three sons of Finwe, Feanor was slain by a group of Balrogs, Fingolfin was slain by Morgoth himself, and Finarfin stayed in Valinor.
A GROUP of Balrogs slew Feanor. Galadriel was more or less equal in might to Feanor. So we can extrapolate that Galadriel could most likely have defeated the Balrog of Moria. That's pretty fuckin' amazing!!
@@joescott8877 I don't think that's actually true, at least it depends on which age you're talking about. While galadriel has fought numerous times and demonstrated vast power and prowess during the first and second age, it is also stated that during lotr "Galadriel, the greatest of the Eldar surviving in Middle-earth, was potent mainly in wisdom and goodness, as a director or counsellor in the struggle, unconquerable in resistance (especially in mind and spirit) but incapable of punitive action." So I doubt galadriel is even close to feanor in fighting power, but she is certainly stronger in other aspects.
Yeah I straight up stopped watching after that mistake 😂
(Apologies in advance--I couldn't resist): "Of the three sons of Finwe, Feanor was slain by a group of Balrogs, Fingolfin was slain by Morgoth himself, and Finarfin stayed in Valinor." Where he was slain by Boredom.
@@nikogruben9573 Haven't you been watching "The Rings of POWER"??? Galadriel could TOO beat a group of Balrogs!! LOL, just kidding, man, sorry, haha I hate the bastardization of Galadriel done by that Amazon dreck. You DO raise a great point, and from the text itself no less, so extra heft there. Not sure how many liberties PJ took in having The Hobbit Galadriel basically "banish" Sauron. Thinking that wasn't in the Appendix per say, though she did "throw down" the walls odf Dol Guldur, whatever THAT may mean. Good point, though, made me change my mind.
the Silmarillion also gives a great sense of all the power beneath^^
oh boy, they could make a twelveology with that literate treasure : >
Great explanation on the subject matter!
Thank you for Clarifying Galadriel's power source. I look forward to your videos.
She is a type for the Virgin Mary so this is a reason why Tolkien made her so powerful.
Hello again, Tim,
Another interesting video. I now want to watch these movies again. If I’m not mistaken, this is close to the end of the school year, so I’m guessing exams may be around the corner (correct me if I’m wrong; I’ve always been in American schools). Good luck on them!
As for my favorite song I’d like other people to hear, that would be between two songs, both from Jonsì Birgisson. They are titled “Around Us” and “Sticks and Stones.” The latter featured in the credits of the first HTTYD.
Carlos T. in Belgium they start at the end if june (In high school atleast). Thanks anyway, and good luck to you in advance!
Love this video!
I truly enjoyed your channel. She is one of my favourite character.
You state that the Noldor were the tribe of elves who were closest to the Valar, but that would actually be the Vanyar or Light-Elves. However, Galadriel was descended from them too - she gets her trademark blonde hair from her Vanyarin grandmother.
Galadriel was my nightmare everyday when I was 5
Same here 😂😅
Woah
Love the content, and well researched. Galadriel is my favorite character in LOTR. Problem with the audio though, your voice is quite soft compared to the clips
Great video as usual! Thank you. Can you tell me where you got the maps behind you? Cheers
6:30 "The Nolder were closest to the Valar".
That is not correct. It is explicitly stated that the Vanyar are the highest of Elves, and most closely loyal to Manwe's will.
Also, the Noldor* rebelled, so... how could they possibly be the closest?
Which is why we know so little about the Vanyar. They stayed loyal in Valinor.
I thought this too right away
True. Still the Noldor had by far the most impact on the world. The Vanyar are lazy kiss asses.
"...for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power." - Gandalf, FotR
Matthew Critchley - I’ve also been thinking about this passage….recalling the chase by the Nazguls to the river where they were overcome by the waters…and dismayed by an Elf-lord (Glorfindel) revealed in his wrath. Frodo saw him as a blazing figure of light. The film although wonderful, doesn’t quite convey the fact that these beings weren’t just pretty people who were light on their feet.
This WAS the first video of yours I've seen (obviously had to subscribe) and I love the "if this is your first video, my channel is mostly about a guy who worships his car... and some nerdy stuff"
Nice collection.
This might explain how Elizabeth I defeated the Spanish Armada :)
Video summary: "Galadriel could fart her way to heaven"
Funny you should say that...
I'm glad that we have people like you.
I just filled out a fun questioneer for my new job. It asked which movie character would I be and why. Thanks for the thorough detailed description of this hauntingly beautiful immortal character. It definitely helps me feel more informed and solid in my response.
Great video! While I think you have covered the points really well, I have one tiny objection. I don’t agree that Galadriel could look into Sauron's mind because of her perceptiveness. She wears one of the elven rings of power, which was forged under Sauron's instructions. It gives her some knowledge of Sauron's mind. However, when Sauron gets his ring back, his ring will overpower hers and then her own mind will be completely revealed to him. That was the true meaning of her comment, in my opinion.
Great video, but something that you might also cover is the importance of her hair. It seems to have magical properties that nothing else does.
it shone with the light of the golden tree for she loved that tree best when tending the trees in lorien for as all elves she prefers the stars and night over the day and the light
Dude I love ur collection of maps and dragons in the background so much. Can't wait till I get my own place to do shit like that lol
love your channel mate. quick correction though the Mallorne trees were given to her by the Numenoreans, not Gil Galad
Another tip - Galadriel is also the descendent of both the Vanyar elves, through her grandmother Indis, and the Teleri by her mother Earwen. She is a mix of all of the Avari elves.
Um, the Avari were the Elves who did not go to Aman.
She is a mixture of all the Calaquendi.
I have a cat named Mishka too! xD Awesome video, new subscriber :3
All my best to your Mishy! Welcome to the community.
~ Tim
Weird......I have a mat called Cishka
LOVIN your lotr background display ❤️
Good episode , subbing now
not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I see another great fact of influence of why Galadriel was so powerful. On top of all the things you have mentioned in this video, there is the case of her lineage. She is the daughter of Finarfin (son of the probably the Cuivienen-awokened King of the Noldo Finwë and Indis). Indis was Vanyarin, and I'm not sure how this works but her mother was Ingwë sister. Apparently Ingwë, king of the Vanyar, wasn't created by Eru at Cuivienen? Not that it really matters, but it's an old bloodline nonetheless. Being the daughter of Finarfin (Noldo but with Vanyarin blood) her mother was Eärwen, the daughter of Olwë, one of the original kings of the Teleri. To summarise, Galadriel was born out of the royal bloodlines of ALL great houses of the Eldar, namely the Vanyar, Noldor and Teleri. She is the summary of everything the Eldarian houses have to offer. And with everything you already mentioned of how wise and learned Galadriel was, she was probably attuned to all the traits the different houses are known for. The Vanyar, with their love for music and poetry, and yet being able to bring forth an army that shook the earth and made everything tremble at the War of Wrath, the Noldor with their thirst for knowledge, and the Teleri with their love and understanding of the sea, the forests and everything living.. Galadriel is the pinnacle of everything the royal lines of the Eldar. And I'd say that makes her the perfect Elf combined with everything you already mentioned. She is the personification of the Eldar. And that's part of the reason why she is so powerful.