I upgraded from a Yamaha P45 to a Yamaha CLP645 some month back. And yes, it is not 'real' :) , but it looks good, keys feels good an it sounds great - and - one advantage of a keyboard/electric piano you did not mention is the fact you can practice in silence with headphones. I'm sure my wife and neighbors appreciate that !!.
jkristia2011 I am a working pianist and I do play both pianos. A digital piano and acoustic piano are both actual pianos. It is just that one is compleetly different than the other but they are both pianos. A digital piano is not fake. Now you do have those toy pianos which are toys but then you have the real pianos which are digital and acoustic. You are not going to call an electric car a fake car are you? They are both real. Gas or electric cars they are both cars. Or you are not going to call an airplane a fake bus are you??? It is a totally different concept or a small plane a fake car but you want a real car right??? That doesn’t make sense. A plane is a real plane a car is a real car so when you talk about acoustic piano beeing a real piano and a digital not bee real you got to what what you are talking about because they are both pianos it is just that one is totally different than the other and it makes music production easier to do than the other BITH they are both real pianos.
jkristia2011 the other thing I noticed when you said electronic/keyboard piano. This doesn’t even make sense. Keyboards... they are totally different than digital pianos in that they have spring loaded keys and they are portable and smaller. A digital piano has G.H.s. Action where as a keyboard doesn’t. A keyboard is not a piano and a digital piano is not a keyboard. Many people believe this concept that a digital piano is just technically a keyboard but that is false. A keyboard is played differently and smaller. With its portability a digital piano is resembling its cousin the acoustic piano and has hammer weighted keys and 3 pedals like that of the acoustic piano. You are not goin to see this on a keyboard. You will have just the damper pedal on a keyboard and it may even just bee a foot switch. The other thing is that a digital piano is not an electric piano. Electric pianos were used back in the 70’s and didn’t even sound like an actual piano. They were bell like tones and you could tune an electric piano. A digital piano is not even close to an electric piano. A digital piano gets its sounds from sampling or modeling and you can patch different sounds of voices. You could not do this on an electronic piano. The electric piano had tunes on it and they were in place of strings. The electric piano looked like an acoustic piano with tunes and hammers nad you tuned the tunes by the tune bar. A digital piano has digital circuits to keep the piano in tune. And functions way way different. We actually do not have electronic pianos anymore. Like the roads and Wurlitzer or vintage vibe pianos. But they are not to bee mistaken for a digital piano. This is in correct. An electronic piano didn’t even sound like a piano...... though they are all in the keyboard family they all are very different from each other.... I am really surprised that many musicians don’t get this.
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MiaNaomi Post a digital piano is not fake. It is a piano just like its cousin. They are both genuine real. It is like saying I want a real car not an electric car. Well, what are you calling fake. A fake piano would bee that of a little kid’s toy piano but when you are talking about a digital versus acoustic these are both real pianos. It just so happens that ones works differently than the other and they both perform at their levels one is used for concerts and classical moments and jazz where the other can do everything and that is music production. A digital piano is more of a work piano. It is used to produce music albums and make music and beeing creative. So it is not fake at all.... I am a working pianist and I do play both. Now if you go to say that they both play compleetly different I would give you that because i do play both and they both feel totally different. From each other and they don’t sound the same it doesn’t matter how great digitals are they don’t sound exactly like their cousins although don’t bee fooled a digital piano is a real piano it just works differently. Just like a hybrid piano. They are not digitals but they are acoustic pianos that have a digital part to them. It is basically an acoustic wanting to bee a digital but it can’t. But boiling it down both pianos are real pianos. Just like cars. You are not going to call an electric car a fake car are you??? It is the same thing. They both give transportation and they are both real cars.
@@benjaminbrown5245 It's fake because the sound is a sample, and there the disconnection between the action and the sound. Don't take it personally. I love my digital piano but I know when I touch the action it's not the real hammer that creates sounds, it's a hammer that trigger the sensitivity that play a sample of the piano, not by touching a real string. By this definition though, a Roland piano might have been considered less fake than others since they actually generate their own piano sound through algorithm instead of playing by sampling. Your car analogy isn't the same, since an electric car doesn't mimic the normal car, it just use different type of energy. A digital mimic the acoustic sound and action as best as they could, hence the fake flower analogy make more sense, since fake flower don't require maintainance like real flowers but if they're good enough you can't tell them apart without a good eye/ear.
@@linkthai1995 you are talking to a pianist here for a living. A digital piano is not fake. Yes it is totally a really genuine piano. Think you need to read up in digital and acoustics. Yes. It is the same. The car annalagie. It is the same thing. Well, a digital no acoustic is different from each other and they are totally different beasts but a digital are not fake. They are real piano. I have to get going to work soon but I saw this and this reply looks like I don’t know what both pianos are when I play both pianos so I no what I am talking about here. If I had more time I would explain to you how a digital and acoustic works. I have been playing piano all my life here. A digital piano is a digital piano like is says. Yes. The action and workings of it are no where near the acoustic but that doesn’t mean at all that it is a fake piano. That is a myth. Their is no such thing as a fake versus real piano unless you are talking about the baby toy that you had growing up and then getting on a acoustic piano. The baby toy is a toy but quit calling a digital piano a toy or fake that is not true. Like i said. I know exactly what i am talking about because i live, breath, and basically eat no sarcasm here but this is true pianos. I do play both so you can not tell me that i don’t know what i am talking about and the car annalygie does work the best or flying a plane versus driving a car. It is the exact same thing. Digital versus acoustic. Yes they are totally different beasts and they are no where the same but they are 2 real pianos…. Just like a keyboard. That is not a piano. It is smaller than a piano and the Keats are totally different. The have springy sanction.
@@benjaminbrown5245 Shouldn't a keyboard made to feel like a piano be called an electric piano? Growing up, that was I used to practice piano. Before that I learned keyboard which the keys were very light and kinda bouncy? Keyboards are used a lot by music producers cuz it produces a lot of sounds but the feel to it is not real. If the feel to a keyboard is like a piano and it sounds like a piano but not an acoustic one then it's referred to as electric piano (in my country it translates to that). My piano teacher always advised against using the keyboard cuz in the long run it would ruin your technique so it was better to get an electric piano aka a keyboard that "feels" like piano. If digital piano here means the keyboard that are generally used by music producers and brought around and stuff then I don't think that it is a real piano. My terminology could be wrong cuz I grew up learning piano in my native language and not English. I played the keyboard and the called it "the organ????" but later I found out it was actually a keyboard. From my experience, a keyboard isn't a real piano but an "electric piano" is a real piano.
First off, I just discovered your channel, and have enjoyed it very much, thank you! But please be careful about falling into “piano snobbery”. Not everyone who lives in a city or suburb can afford a detached single family home. When what your family can afford is an apartment, perhaps a very small one, a digital piano or keyboard may be your only option for getting in a reasonable amount of practice time. And I know there are “silent pianos”, but if finances are tight, they are expensive and there isn’t a large used market of them. I relearned piano as a mom of two young kids. Practicing had to happen after they were in bed, so my digital piano was a blessing. If even one single person isn’t learning piano because they feel that a digital piano is what they would have to use, but feel embarrassed that it’s not a “real” piano that would be so sad, in my opinion. Also, I feel very strongly that the “authentic and heartfelt” aspect of music comes from the musician, not the instrument.
I’ve owned many acoustic pianos in my life. Last one was a 25 year old used Baldwin R 5’8”. A first it was a wonderful piano. But within a few months I had trouble with odd sounds that would come and go. Had a few technicians try and fix it with no success. After 3 years I sold the Baldwin and bought a cheap digital Casio. Much happier since no need for tunings or upkeep. Takes up much less space and I don’t need a humidifier in the winter or air conditioning in the summer to baby the piano.
For me, it's always a digital piano. As others have mentioned, being able to use headphones is very important and the added bonus is that you can connect it to your computer and use it with lots of cool music software. And honestly, my Yamaha DGX-660b feels pretty real to me and sounds awesome :).
I have the Yamaha DGX-660b as well and I love it more than the upright piano that I grew up with as it's always in tune and with literally hundreds of instrumental sounds/samples to play around with. It's awesome!
This is so true! I get you as i started off with a digital piano. After playing for about a year or less, i invested and bought a 2nd hand acoustic piano and yes indeed the feeling is so different. So glad that i've got the acoustic piano and able to use it for my exams.
Grace Tan that is so true. Now I am a working pianist and I do play both. It doesn’t matter how good digitals are they are not the same they are compleetly a different beast than the acoustic counter part. When you only play acoustic pianos if you go and play on a digital you will fee something way off like something is broke but it is not true it is the way that the digital works compared to the acoustic. Now if you play both then you have the knowledge of how both of them are played. Yes both of them have 88 keys but the action and play is compleetly different. You are so right on. I love playing both but honestly I love the digital pianos. You can do so much more with them. On the other hand if you are wanting to play classical or perform in a concert than a digital on that hand is not the piano to use. You would then want an acoustic grand piano because of that string resonance. Now for production of music that is where the digital comes in.
Benjamin Brown Yes that’s right! I’m seriously considering of getting an upgrade soon because I really need too. I’m already pursing for the Grade5 exam and unfortunately my piano keys are too light to train out all the techniques and dynamics. Oh I’ve actually spot on this piano Zimmermann S6, it has a wonderful tone and the touch are just gorgeous! While looking back, digital piano comes in handy to the extend if I need to play late at night or do some recording for myself :)
This is so true, I just started piano lessons and bought a keyboard like a week ago but I practiced on the the "real thing" yesterday and it felt AMAZING
Hey Jazer, I use both. Couldn’t do without my digital Yamaha CLP for practising new pieces and scales etc. Doing repetitions on the acoustic does my head in. I use the acoustic piano when pieces are ready to play.
Get both an acoustic piano and a keyboard. I have both. I practice on my keyboard anytime with headphone so I don't bother anyone. I play on my upright acoustic piano on my final practice or when I want the acoustic piano quality sound. Keyboard sounds like a toy piano but I can use headphone.
@@krissvtar8912 ye but at least afford lessons or your technique might get a bit messed up, especially if the keyboard you use is designed as an "electric/digital" piano.
"The real thing really feels real" - Jazer 2019 Jokes apart, you've got very nice points there, and i completely agree with the fact that an acoustic piano is in fact the real deal. But actually, beginners can work with a keyboard too, and it is berter choice because of the low cost. Because if they don't like the instrument and want to stop learning it all of a sudden, it will be a very painful waste of money with an actualy piano lol
@@varunsathya696 I played keyboard before piano. It was way different. If beginners want to get a keyboard get one that imitates the feel of a piano, which is referred to as an "electric piano" in my country and maybe other countries too.
Ideally, I think having both is the best. Night time practice in many peoples lives is unacceptably loud for other to deal with on a real piano, for neighbours, family members, etc. What I love about digital pianos is you can just put some headphones on or just turn it down low and your free to practice without disturbing everyone
It was an easy decision for me....we don't have room for a piano. I learned how to play when I was a child . A digital keyboard , at least, affords me a way to play & I have to say, it's fun to be able to change the sounds. It makes practicing more fun. We've lived all sorts of places.It wouldn't have been practical to own a piano . They're not easy to move on your own!
Just found you. I am a total beginner. I have tried a few tutorials on you tube. I think your is great. You explain things very clearly and I am finding it so much fun. Thank you so much. I will be watching all your videos. 🎹
I respect and understand your opinion and point of view. It’s very different of that of a beginner or someone born in the eighties, who appreciates synthesizers like me, I went with kawai kdp 120 and I appreciate it a lot, when I am better I will make a new choice
I like having both. Playing an acoustic beats any digital piano any day. Digital with head phones is great for practice when it's late and you don't want disturb anyone.
Hi Jazer! I recently came upon your site here. You are a very enthusiastic music teacher and it's clear to see that you have a great passion for piano! Really enjoy your lessons here ;)
I'm an adult learners. For the first 3 years I just practicing with my digital piano. then I notice , even i was good practicing at home , when the time I practicing in piano lesson with grand piano it's like I hit the keys too much and I lost my focus. So I decided to buy used upright piano. I practicing with both of them..
wishyou werehere thanks ya. I’m about to buy something for my bday. My parents want me to choose anything u like. I decided Piano but i know nothing bout it.
This is one of the most important topics in piano training these days. There are compelling reasons for either approach. In my case space, direct recording, and practicing at any hour led to an electronic approach. BUT, all of that can be reduced to one thing (acoustic or electronic) - action. This became critical as I set a workstation up for my daughter who's lessons and recitals were on acoustic pianos. It's also crucial to develop reasonable pianistic technique. This is where many 'digital pianos' fail. SO, pay attention to graded, hammer action and escapement. Escapement is often overlooked but it's part of every acoustic piano because a 'piano action' is a mechanical construct. And your keyboard must support a proper triple pedal. Research that as much as the sounds. Today (Nov. 2021) Rolands PHA-50 and the Kawai Grand Feel III (GF) Wooden-Key Action do a good job of simulating a grand piano feel and connection with the 'instrument'. Then use something like Pianoteq modeled piano software and you will have a capable solution for developing proper technique and one that records beautifully. Not to mention never being told when 'not' to practice. My favorite time is early morning.
Some things to keep in mind with keyboards. If you can afford it get one that has at least 76 full size keys and that the keys are weighted. It's also best to get a bench and stand that are designed to work with it. Also make sure both the black and white keys are weighted properly. I know one manufacturer had an issue with at least one of it's models where the white keys were fine but the black keys required the pianist to strike them a lot harder which made the unit much harder to play.
If you have access to a real piano at church or college, then a digital is fine at home. You can't take a Grand onto a boat or a campervan! It's worth looking at ads because people often give away pianos which are taking up home space.
Hi, Jazer. Thank you so much for your video about the bass clef! It was very helpful even for this old geezer. It's helping me with Chopin ballades and polonaises. I was getting really rusty.
I wish I had space even for an upright. I would get a good Yamaha like my teacher's. It sounds almost like a baby grand. I'm not a fan of the sonic artifacts in digital pianos. It's not just hearing the sample ranges and looped sustain, there are other subtle audible issues. I was very pleased when my son told me one day our digital piano was "broken"; it meant his ear had become attuned enough to hear these too. The other thing I dislike is that despite weighted keys, velocity sensitivity does not adequately model the force sensitivity of a real piano - particularly in pianissimo but also the lack of response to weight results in playing from the elbows. I'm only at Grade 2 on the piano but even I can detect the difference.
I have an upright acoustic piano. I bought an electric Yamaha Clavinova because I had young kids and so couldn’t play the acoustic after 7pm. Now my boys are teenagers, it has switched and I have to use the electric keyboard with headphones if I want to play before 10am! Even though the keys are weighted on the Clavinova and I can practice effectively on it, I much prefer to use the acoustic as I can really work on my touch & quality of sound. This isn’t really possible at the same level with the electric. Thanks for all the videos Jazer!
I am planning to buy a digital piano and while I am doing my research, I came across your video. I'm glad I did! I will soon buy a digital piano and I will come back to your channel for when I start learning and practicing. So glad I found your channel!
The New Yamaha P 515 is awesome. It contains the famous Yamaha CFX Concert Grand sound as well as the Bosendorfer Imperial Grand. The Keys are wood and tops are textured to resemble ivory. The action has escapement and captures string and damper resonance which are adjustable as well as the touch. It is the finest sounding and playing digital on the market.
Both great instruments! The p515 does a lot of the things a clavinova does, but not everything! Some clavinovas have quite a few more options. And the over all speaker system in th clavinovas are generally better by both loudness and quality. I would consider the p515 as the music majors go to practice instrument. And the clavinova the actual recital instrument in the digital world. Two great and totally different beasts
I personally find the Yamaha Arius YDP-181 to create a more full sound than the P 515 as well as to be a more versatile piano overall, but just marginally. Honestly, either piano is fantastic. I only wish the Arius was still being made. I could really use a not clicky piano.
The 1 thing that gets you get into trouble with a DP is a Suzuki teacher. I met several of them over the years and they wanted students to practice on an acoustic as soon as they start their lessons to get the touch and feel of the real thing. I have an 88-DP at home for more than 5 years and no has no problem with it. With I'm done, the instrument can go into the closet so I have more space in the room. And if I don't like practicing in 1 room, I just move it to another in minutes. You wouldn't do that with an upright.
The bigger detail that make me prefer “real” piano is the sound and resonance. I have a keyboard and it is great to practice. I took one with the feel of real piano keys and a faithful sound... But man ! When I play on a real one... even my parent’s one which is untuned, it can give me shivers all over my spine with some pieces. For me this really is another level of experience... I want a real piano T_T
My piano is about 85db loud. There is nothing I love more than waking up in the morning and playing my "wakeup" song. I can feel the thing reverberating though the walls, the floor, and in turn my bum. If I set on a roll and walk to the other end of the house, I can feel the bass all the way on the other end.
I started playing on both a keyboard and an acoustic (spinet). A year ago when I wanted to upgrade I considered getting a higher end digital piano or a bigger acoustic. After considering my options for months and trying a lot of different options, I ended up buying a slightly used Yamaha GB1K baby grand. It looks beautiful in my living room, sounds wonderful, and I feel happy sitting for hours a day playing on it. i stop playing at 9:30 when my daughter goes to sleep and by that time I’m ready to stop. In the end, everyone gets what they prefer, what they can afford, and what type of instrument fits their lifestyle. But I’m so blessed to have a gorgeous looking and sounding instrument to play on. Even if I’m just an intermediate pianist.
Couldn't agree more. I had a clavinova for a few years and it was very clever, but NOTHING takes the place of the real deal I now have a Challen baby grand, sounds great, looks great. No comparison..
Great video! I have both.. my Baldwin upright piano from 1978 and a kurzweil pc2x keyboard from the early 2000’s. I tend to play mostly on the actual piano though!
I have a hybrid: real grand piano action w synthesized sound. Feel like the action is superior to an acoustic upright piano and you get to stay in a modest sized house.
I learned piano before covid but only beginner level and stopped at covid. My piano now barely is played and the notes sounds a bit off and the pedal is broken. I also wanted to get a keyboard for a while so should I get one or just repair my piano
This would depend on what kind of piano you have, how extensive is the repair going to be (or how costly it will be), etc. You would need to weigh the pros and cons.
Subscribed. I watch a lot of piano on RUclips, its part of my effort of love for the piano for more than forty years. I still don't read music or play like I should, but I still love it. I play by ear, and it interferes with my sight reading, I just play it with some help from memory. My reason to comment to your channel, is to encourage you to continue to put in honest advice, it reaches across national boundaries and cultures, and makes difference to folks like me. before days of RUclips I used to English dictionaries and actually repair and tune secondhand piano to a working condition. My first inspiration was Sound of Music, now I listen to Jazz and attempt playing it. No I'm no-good at all, but when has that stopped me?
i had a nice upright old piano. But I now live in a Senior Apartment. I am looking for a keyboard for size with head phones so as not to bother neighbors.
My Roland FP30 is very much equivalent to my Steinway Model O, The weighted keys of the Roland is feels like the real thing. Going to play a Steinway Concert grand at the music store with my other friends, the store rents out the recital hall. That doe sit for me.
I purchased a Yamaha P125 digital. I like that it has a full keyboard (88 keys) and graded hammer standard. It sounds and feels like a "real" piano with the added benefits you mentioned PLUS I can plug in headphones so my family and neighbors don't have to listen to me learn. I agree that anyone who plans to perform will need an acoustic piano or at least access to one. Just subscribed and am enjoying your vids--thanks Jazer.
@@jazerleepiano I'm in the very early stages so Ode to Joy, When the Saints Go Marching In, etc. I'm using RUclips, online classes and books--at 70 I'd rather do it this way than have a piano teacher. Maybe I'll regret that decision or maybe I'll change my mind--but for now I just want to get my music reading skills down pat and learn the basic stuff. It's only for my own enjoyment and I also hope it helps with memory (it used to be great--now not so much).
I love your analogy about the fake flowers vs the real flowers. On one level they can be used interchangeably (in your own home, you can have either fake or real flowers -- it's up to you). But there will be many times where one cannot substitute for one another because they are far too different -- if you want to become a florist you should probably work with real flowers rather than fake ones, because there's so much more to a flower than how it looks from a distance.
screamingpiano we have to get our minds away from real and fake when it comes for pianos. I am a working pianist I do play both digital and acoustic. That is what they are named. They are both real what are you going to do. Call an electric car a fake car??? No they are both real it just happens that one operates on a different level but they are both real. Well, the same with the piano. An acoustic piano is a piano like its cousin. It just so happens that you should work and practice and hone your skills on the acoustic before getting on a digital. A digital is going to take your playing to the next level meaning that you ar going to bee creative on a digital piano you can do that on an acoustic but you need more things to help with recording where as a digital if you have tons of things on it you can record and do all your studio work right their on the piano. That is the advantage of the digital piano. But they are both real... same thing with cars. A gas powered or electric powered is both real. They are just powered by 2 different file types. One is file and one is electric but they are both real.
@@youareallfeckinboring Well, it totally makes sense. A digital piano is a compleetly different beast than the acoustic piano. The acoustic piano is going to give the beginner the feeling of performance and you will bee getting prepared to play in concert halls. I am glad that you agree because I have been through it and know what it is like. It is better to start from the acoustic piano and get the feeling of control before moving onto the digital piano. The digital has a compleetly different action and feel. In order to play a digital you need to bee able to have the thestarting of knowledge of piano skills first. Then the other will make sense to you as driving a car is to flying planes. Totally different beasts but their both vehicles. The thing it’s the acoustic piano is that you want to bee able to hear the overtones as you are playing. With a digital you are not going to get the overtones and string resonance.
I have a keyboard with "hammer-action" weighted keys, which is a fancy way of saying that it feels like a real piano, even if it doesn't sound or look like one. It actually takes more force to press a key on a real piano, so I find when I practice something on piano, then play it on a regular keyboard or vice versa, my technique is off. Thanks to my practice keyboard with weighted keys, I can take everything I practice to a real piano no problem, even if I haven't seen a real piano in months.
I don't think my keyboard has any additional features like he mentioned in the video, outside of a built-in metronome and a few preset sounds. I honestly bought the cheapest one on the market and didn't worry about digital features. I wonder if there's a weighted keyboard that does. It also just has the one sustain pedal, not all three.
I got a digital piano for Christmas & at first it continually turned off after pressing some keys eventually got new batteries & learned the others I originally put in it were new but defective. Now it works 😁 I do like the look & overall aura of a real piano but in my opinion I have to earn the right to play on one im still at a scrub level learning basics but 1 day, maybe a few years I'd feel ready for it. Only ever seen a real piano on tv or internet even the local guitar center only has keyboards
As a kid, my family had a nice acoustic piano. But, we also lived in a house with high ceilings and wood floors. I wish we had a digital piano instead because every time I practiced my family would yell at me to stop because of the echo. They always wanted to watch TV and would get upset when I practiced.
No matter how expensive a digital pianos may be, all of them fall far short in projecting expressiveness through harmonic colouring, because there is the complete absence of interactive resonance. If you play a C chord on a digital piano, you hear simultaneous recordings of C, E, and G. On an acoustic piano however, there is an interaction of the strings - the C, E, and G vibrate sympathetically to each other, which affects the harmonic balance. Add to that the bass notes played by the left hand. By controlling the dynamics and the pedal, an adept performer can exert control on this effect, thereby achieving desirable harmonic colouring, and giving each note a tone of its own. It is of considerable significance, for the difference in tone between a violin and a harmonica is entirely the effect of inharmonicity and harmonic balance. This is why acoustic pianos are the almost always the choice of virtuosos for both practice and performance.
@@VolodymyrTorkalo / It is impossible to get interactive resonance of strings with an electronic piano, because there is the total absence of strings! The harmonic balance of C played alone is absolutely not the same as the harmonic balance of C when E and G are played with it. There is not a single virtuoso in the world today who uses an electronic piano on stage or in the studio. In order to achieve the tone that they so adeptly conjure, they practice only on acoustic pianos. Expressiveness is essential to the proper performance of the great works of the piano.
@@williamsmyth5047 I tested this feature by holding one key down (without sound) and pressing another key octave higher: with pressed two keys sound is different - i can hear slight resonance of first key. If press single key there is no sound of resonance. This is even mentioned in manual that resonance is simulated (but only on first default grand piano voice) Why this should be not possible when you have computers? Today we have very powerfull tools for digital signals processing.
@@VolodymyrTorkalo / This can't be done by sampling, because there are billions of nuances due to dynamics and chord structures. Yamaha is capable of a lot. Line 6, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Yamaha, is an industry leader in guitar processors. However, when it comes to pianos, you need strings, so that each note is unique. That is why, despite their digital pianos, they manufacture acoustic pianos - big expensive pianos that require tuning and humidity control - because that's what musicians need for expressiveness.
when you live in a condo it is not good to have an acoustic piano since your neighbors will be vexed by the sound and digital pianos nowadays have hammer weighted keys although not as authentic as the real one still will do the job without disturbing others. acoustic piano is ideal if you live in a biog house not a condo
Love this. I am a pianist for a living. Now one thing is that digital pianos and keyboards are not the same. The keyboard is smaller in some cases it is a full 88 key but normally,,, the keyboard has springy action like a synthesizer. It also has semi weighted keys. A digital piano on the other hand has a keyboard but it is the resemblance of the acoustic piano. Now when you talk about a real piano this is another thing. What do you mean by real here. A digital piano is a real piano. So when we say a real piano what are we talking about here. A piano has strings of course and damper and other pedals the system pro and soft pedals. Well, a digital Janos it’s the same but it doesn’t have strings. It is their fore a real piano. So we have to watch our verbiage when we are talking about wheat is real. It is like a car. If you said. I want a real car,,,, now what are you really talking about when you say this. A car has wheels you can sit in it and drive. You have a gasoline car and electric. You are not going to say Oh. I want a real car when you have an electric car right because they are both real. They are. A mode of transportation... O.K. Pianos again. A digital piano is a piano no matter how you look at it. It just comes in a different form. Now keyboards are played different my than a piano or digital piano. You have accompaniment in the left hand on the keyboard and you have sounds that you would use that are not on a digital piano. Now you do have digital pianos that you can play like a keyboard style but when you say keyboard/digital piano this is the wrong way to talk..... a synthesizer is not a keyboard. The style that you play a synth is a bit different. So we have to watch how we come across on how we present things. Good video though.
nah - let's not mess around here. A 'real' piano is quite simply an acoustic piano. Same as one day we'll look back a lust after 'real' cars or hanging out with 'real' people. Some things are just better 'real'.
@@tombarnes3004 dude!!! I know what i am talking about here. Then you know i am a working pianist and I was raised around this stuff. I was born into a musician family. Ummmm I know what i am talking about here. A digital piano is a real piano. What are you going to call it a fake piano? Or a toy piano come on. It’s obvious that you don’t know. A digital paino is a real piano. What is the problem here. This is not messing around. People need to bee educated and its obvious that you need to bee educated. The thing that is different is that a digital does not have strings but an acoustic does. An acoustic is a real piano and so is a digital. Both the pianos are not the same I know this cause i play both. I know what i am talking about here. That is like saying an electric car is not a real car. What do you mean what is real!!!! Come on. An electric car is real and so is a gas powered car. You know this. What are you going to say. Oh I want to play a real organ when you sit at an electric organ. What???? Just cause it is electric what are you going to say. Is it fake no. It is real. Just like the pipe organ. And just to let you know a digital piano is not an electric piano. They are for 2 different pianos. Yes. You plug them both in but a digital has no sound like the electric. The electric piano was used back in the 1960’s and 1970’s. It had hammers of course but it did not even sound like a digital. A digital piano resembles a acoustic piano in that it has a sound engine. Where as an electric piano does not. It has tines that were struck. See so the functions are different. If you are a pianist you should know these things. Don’t make me look stupid here.
@@benjaminbrown5245 You're very literal aren't you mate? Also: "People need to bee educated and its obvious that you need to bee educated. " Case closed on that display of education then.
Best advice - have both. I have a Yama Portable Grand for my office and a 1929 Gulbransen at the house. Best of both worlds. Thank God I tune that GB myself. I have no idea what it would cost to get a professional tuner up in my mountains. Twice a year. Minimum. If you are getting a keyboard, get a FULL keyboard so you can develop spatial awareness with your hands that will translate to any real piano.
Thank you so much Jaser. I’ve learned lot of useful information from you. I wish to stay in your town to have a piano lesson with you face to face. Alex
I would love to have an acoustic piano. I have a keyboard but the keys are getting loose, making a very annoying clicking sound. I find them slippery. I prefer the feel of the keys on an acoustic piano. I also prefer the sound of an acoustic piano much more.
all i can say, that my yamaha ez300 has one defaut, the key are very noisy xD get it during black friday, it's okay for a beginner, didnt wanted to spend more and will upgrade if i keep praticing those next 4/5 year
The way u teach is pleasing and encouraging but for theory speaking is ok but to learn playing you need play and show us, the students. I mean demonstration following the explaining part or theory part. Thanks for doing that to me.
I recently bought the komplete control s88 with hammered keys and for me that's perfect. (I make dance and pop music). I'm not good enough to get everything out of an real piano.
Now you've put my mind in a bit of turmoil! 🤣 I am in the process of buying a piano. It's a toss up between an upright or digital piano. I was tending to go towards a digital with fully weighted keys. Problem is - I can hear the difference between the real thing and not the real thing. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ive been living almost all of my life in my grandparent's house, they have an acoustic piano, And I've played on it a lot now that its worn down and they don't bother to repair it Im thinking of buying one. Though a piano that big wouldn't fit in my room😔 also the feel of digital keyboard feels a bit light to the touch and different to me, also we get black outs a lot.. It would be nice to find something space conserving and at the same time wireless or doesn't need to be plugged 😭
In post soviet nations you can find free acoustic pianos quite easily, mine was free, and no, they aren't broken or anything, all you need is to tune them, that is also cheap here
If I may ask. What if I don’t plan to play piano at all. What are the pros and cons of getting an electronic keyboard and sticking with it for life. I would be using it for piano sounds, as well as all the other sounds, as well as midi. Does the keyboard need to have weighted keys and pedals and all. Thanks.
I started with a keyboard..but the keys for me felt really unrealistic..because of their thingness..it wasn't until I upgraded to a piano..acoustic digital full-size one that I really felt I was at "one"per say with my fingers and touch..still the plus side was that I learnt to become familiar with the keys and notes at the stage...p.s..I'm not sure if my piano is acoustic or digital..😳..lol..the keys are real and feel real...but I do plug it in to the mains..wish I could insert a picture...I will when I have time and comment on another video..
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not sure about fake flower analogy though, because digital piano also delivers sound not just visual, a better comparison would be ICE vs electric cars or any other analogue vs digital devices like those synthesizers, for a lot of beginners out there, the benefits of having a digital piano outweighs an acoustic one, plus living condition plays a huge factor, everyone can play piano and enjoy (which is the most important thing, to enjoy not to impress or prove something), but I understand perfectly that having such a hobby gravitates to the wealthier end of the society, especially you'll have to at least own a house to fully accommodate a 'real thing', wink wink nudge nudge, that being said, very informative channel, keep up the good stuff!
I am living in a small village of india no one know here what is piano or keyboard but my uncle has a farm house and we have here a very old acoustic piano but no one knows to play piano in my village
What piano are YOU playing in your videos? Some pianos have a sourness in their notes, but every note you play RINGS. So, what instrument do you play? And why did you choose that one?
For me, its definitely a digital piano (which Ive been playing for years now), mainly because I can practice with headphones and because of the different settings and sounds which makes practice soo much more fun. That being said, I do want to play on an actual piano (I have maybe 2 times veryy briefly) because I know the sound is just magical and just to experience the real deal. I think, if possible, having both is the best option (digital for practice and more creativity and real piano for final pieces and performances)!
I can REALLY recommend the ,,SP5600 Portable Grand Keyboard" from Thomann!! It is really really good, has 88 weighted keys and sounds really close to an actual acoustic piano! AND it only costs about 360€!!!
Thanks for the very informative vid. I am considering buying "fake flowers" for my grand daughter. Maybe when she's old enough and rich enough, she can buy herself the "real" thing.😊
Having tried a real piano once and knowing what a real piano feels like in comparison I would really have to love a real acoustic piano. But since I live in a small home (my room is 2,5 x 4m) in a house with really thin walls and since I don`t even have money for a real teacher I am happy that digital pianos exist. They are cheaper, can be very compact and I can play even at night without disturbing my neighbours. So I`m happy with it. In my situation there is not the choice between getting a real acoustic piano or a digital piano - because without digital pianos I wouldn`t have the chance to play at all. Most people don`t have the money and the space.
I tried to give the digital piano a chance. Truly! But it couldn't match the real thing. Digital piano are improving regarding the touch expecially the hybrid piano but they are as expensive as acoustic piano. I would also add that digital piano are lightweight. I play at home on an acoustic piano and take lessons on a keyboard (weird, usually it's the other way around) and it feels weird all the wobbling and movement on the support when you play on a keyboard.
Brother i Want my Finger to Run On My Keyboard or Digital Piano Like *Bullet Train* The reason why I Daily Practice All Scales In 60 to 100 BPM I Hope My Fingers Will Run Fast Of I Practice That Till Next *5 Year* ☺☺
Good points. This is definitely something a new player has to think about. Just get what it right for you and your space. If you enjoy playing you will probably get and use different instruments over time. Also, the piano is a keyboard instrument so I would say what is better for you a digital or electric piano or an acoustic piano. Also I want to add that an electric piano needs to be powered and acoustic not so much… Like all things, get the best one you can get to learn with because your enjoyment and overall experience will be better. I generally don’t like “student” grade things because they don’t function or feel nice so I wonder why anyone would put the time into an art or craft if it does not feel nice at the very beginning of the learning journey. You don’t have to go pro at the start but at least get a good thing to work with while learning, if at all possible. Also, look for used pianos, some people give them away for free!
I started with an upright (acoustic/analog) piano ----- and unfortunately - after many years, the wooden sound-board developed a physical issue, where the piano would keep getting out of tune not too long after a tune-up. So ended up needing to give away that wonderful and trusty upright (for parts etc) - and the digital keyboard journey began. I then played unweighted key digital synthesiser keyboards for quite a while. I don't mind unweighted keys. But now, I play both sorts - unweighted key instruments and weighted key ones. The modern digital pianos are leaps-and-bounds better in sounds and key-weight when compared with many old-school keyboards and old-school digital pianos. Some of these modern digital pianos are very good indeed - which includes sound quality as well as the feel of the keys and key-weighting. I really like both varieties ----- digital and acoustic/analog pianos. Naturally - digital pianos require electricity to operate, while acoustic pianos don't need the electricity to work. Although, with acoustic pianos - you can't plug head-phones into it in order to not annoy or bother others in the house (or next door etc). So ------ for those that like both, it's also possible to get the best of both worlds buy buying both a digital piano and an acoustic piano - if conditions allow for it that is.
Wow! nice feedback as we are in a lock-down. We have an old Piano and never been touched in the last 20 years so I decided to self taught myself at this lock-down life in NZ :) but i have also wanted to get a Keyboard as well so now you are talking i might not buy one and just carry on using the old Piano. So, Did you have use a keyboard during your childhood learning Piano? Give me some advise. Keep up the great work
I purchased a used Keyboard. I don’t want to spend a fortune on a piano and I don’t learn how to play it 😂 Yes, I have a Keyboard. I love bringing to my backyard and play. I am doing well. So I am planning to but a real piano down the road. But for beginners, I recommend to buy a keyboard first.
Eh, seems kind of unfair to say that a keyboard is less real than a piano, because it can do almost all the same things if you have a good one. It's kind of implying that it's more of a toy than an instrument which does a disservice to it and feels classist.
I travel a lot and I found it very hand to fit my piano into the boot of the car. I bought a digital piano and I practice on both. The sound and timbre of the digital piano is dead, an acoustic piano is alive and every time I play the acoustic piano it will sound different, just like all live performance. EVERYTHING in the environment effects the timbre of an acoustic piano, how I feel, how I touch the keys, even how I press the pedals, an acoustic piano is the real thing. If one is starting out, buy a 2nd hand digital say AU$500-600, work with it. In 6 or so months you will know if the piano is for you. What you do after that is up to you. If you don’t like piano selling the digital may, may allow you to recoup what you paid for the digital. Recouping the cost of a piano, well, you would have a better chance winning Lotto.
A real piano also has both a damper pedal and a soft pedal, while an electric piano only has a damper pedal. For beginners this isn’t a problem, but for advanced students you will need that added feature of a soft pedal if you want to have full control of your dynamics while playing more complex works. Some songs will even specify that they want you to use the soft pedal at times.
I dream of having a real acoustic piano but that's just not in the cards for me at the moment. However, the best I could do was get a hybrid that has actual grand piano style hammers (and full length wooden keys) and while it still doesn't charge the spirit quite like the genuine thing, I can still *almost* convince myself that it's real - bonus it looks like a nice upright. But you're right. Deep down I know it's not the real thing. Pre-COVID I was taking in-person lessons (doing online now) and I got to play a nice acoustic piano every week back then and I definitely miss that feeling of connection with a real instrument. I love the nuances! One day...
I prefer a digital piano cause I can play at anytime without bothering anyone. I also like transposing a piece to another key so I don't get bored practicing the piece. I'll buy an Acoustic Piano when I move to a soundproof building.
Digital keyboards are the piano of choice for a beginner. They weigh a few pounds, fit in the back seat of your car and can be placed easily in some corner of the room. Plus you can use headphones and not feel embarrassed/self-conscious when you sound awful. As a beginner, you don't care about how the keys feel, their action, or tone. Your only concern is " will I still be playing in 3 months? or will I grow bored with this and quit? If so you can get rid of a keyboard easily. Also you can buy a keyboard in some thrift shop for $20 to $100. I bought 2 keyboards in thrift stores , one for the den, one for my hobby room. Used keyboards are cheap. If you get bored, you can throw it away, or give it away. If the instrument truly grabs you, you'll know in 3 months. At that point start thinking about upgrading to a more serious instrument. Again buy used. Lots of quality keyboards on craigslist like Rolands, Yamahas, etc. Offered by people who jumped into piano and grew bored. Instruments with good key feel, good tone, and good response. Get a real nice one for $200 to $400 at most, which originally sold for double, triple or more.
I've been thinking lately about what should I buy, either a keyboard or a piano? The answer is here. Hahaha I totally agree with your opinion. The piano is way different than digital. I need it now!
Hello Jazer. Thank you for your videos. Pls i need to decide between a DGX 670 YAMAHA AND A WILLIAMS WHITE GRAND PIANO MINI . BOYH WITH BLUETOOTH and Williams looks beautiful. But I don't know if is it ok the sound . Please help;) thank youuuu!. Great job always!
You're ignoring the silence of playing with headphones.
Great point Dave! Thanks for sharing it here :)
Dave Pawson Yeah, living in a flat your neighbours won't be fans of your new hobby)
I have a silent acoustic piano
Somebody get this guy a crown
There are silent pianos out there now
I upgraded from a Yamaha P45 to a Yamaha CLP645 some month back. And yes, it is not 'real' :) , but it looks good, keys feels good an it sounds great - and - one advantage of a keyboard/electric piano you did not mention is the fact you can practice in silence with headphones. I'm sure my wife and neighbors appreciate that !!.
Great point jkristia2011, it also helps you have privacy when practicing so you can really impress your wife and neighbours after! :P
Are there specific headphones for keyboard or do you purchase any?
But there's silent acoustic pianos
jkristia2011 I am a working pianist and I do play both pianos. A digital piano and acoustic piano are both actual pianos. It is just that one is compleetly different than the other but they are both pianos. A digital piano is not fake. Now you do have those toy pianos which are toys but then you have the real pianos which are digital and acoustic. You are not going to call an electric car a fake car are you? They are both real. Gas or electric cars they are both cars. Or you are not going to call an airplane a fake bus are you??? It is a totally different concept or a small plane a fake car but you want a real car right??? That doesn’t make sense. A plane is a real plane a car is a real car so when you talk about acoustic piano beeing a real piano and a digital not bee real you got to what what you are talking about because they are both pianos it is just that one is totally different than the other and it makes music production easier to do than the other BITH they are both real pianos.
jkristia2011 the other thing I noticed when you said electronic/keyboard piano. This doesn’t even make sense. Keyboards... they are totally different than digital pianos in that they have spring loaded keys and they are portable and smaller. A digital piano has G.H.s. Action where as a keyboard doesn’t. A keyboard is not a piano and a digital piano is not a keyboard. Many people believe this concept that a digital piano is just technically a keyboard but that is false. A keyboard is played differently and smaller. With its portability a digital piano is resembling its cousin the acoustic piano and has hammer weighted keys and 3 pedals like that of the acoustic piano. You are not goin to see this on a keyboard. You will have just the damper pedal on a keyboard and it may even just bee a foot switch. The other thing is that a digital piano is not an electric piano. Electric pianos were used back in the 70’s and didn’t even sound like an actual piano. They were bell like tones and you could tune an electric piano. A digital piano is not even close to an electric piano. A digital piano gets its sounds from sampling or modeling and you can patch different sounds of voices. You could not do this on an electronic piano. The electric piano had tunes on it and they were in place of strings. The electric piano looked like an acoustic piano with tunes and hammers nad you tuned the tunes by the tune bar. A digital piano has digital circuits to keep the piano in tune. And functions way way different. We actually do not have electronic pianos anymore. Like the roads and Wurlitzer or vintage vibe pianos. But they are not to bee mistaken for a digital piano. This is in correct. An electronic piano didn’t even sound like a piano...... though they are all in the keyboard family they all are very different from each other.... I am really surprised that many musicians don’t get this.
I love the fake flowers analogy! Perfect description!
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MiaNaomi Post a digital piano is not fake. It is a piano just like its cousin. They are both genuine real. It is like saying I want a real car not an electric car. Well, what are you calling fake. A fake piano would bee that of a little kid’s toy piano but when you are talking about a digital versus acoustic these are both real pianos. It just so happens that ones works differently than the other and they both perform at their levels one is used for concerts and classical moments and jazz where the other can do everything and that is music production. A digital piano is more of a work piano. It is used to produce music albums and make music and beeing creative. So it is not fake at all.... I am a working pianist and I do play both. Now if you go to say that they both play compleetly different I would give you that because i do play both and they both feel totally different. From each other and they don’t sound the same it doesn’t matter how great digitals are they don’t sound exactly like their cousins although don’t bee fooled a digital piano is a real piano it just works differently. Just like a hybrid piano. They are not digitals but they are acoustic pianos that have a digital part to them. It is basically an acoustic wanting to bee a digital but it can’t. But boiling it down both pianos are real pianos. Just like cars. You are not going to call an electric car a fake car are you??? It is the same thing. They both give transportation and they are both real cars.
@@benjaminbrown5245 It's fake because the sound is a sample, and there the disconnection between the action and the sound. Don't take it personally. I love my digital piano but I know when I touch the action it's not the real hammer that creates sounds, it's a hammer that trigger the sensitivity that play a sample of the piano, not by touching a real string. By this definition though, a Roland piano might have been considered less fake than others since they actually generate their own piano sound through algorithm instead of playing by sampling. Your car analogy isn't the same, since an electric car doesn't mimic the normal car, it just use different type of energy. A digital mimic the acoustic sound and action as best as they could, hence the fake flower analogy make more sense, since fake flower don't require maintainance like real flowers but if they're good enough you can't tell them apart without a good eye/ear.
@@linkthai1995 you are talking to a pianist here for a living. A digital piano is not fake. Yes it is totally a really genuine piano. Think you need to read up in digital and acoustics. Yes. It is the same. The car annalagie. It is the same thing. Well, a digital no acoustic is different from each other and they are totally different beasts but a digital are not fake. They are real piano. I have to get going to work soon but I saw this and this reply looks like I don’t know what both pianos are when I play both pianos so I no what I am talking about here. If I had more time I would explain to you how a digital and acoustic works. I have been playing piano all my life here. A digital piano is a digital piano like is says. Yes. The action and workings of it are no where near the acoustic but that doesn’t mean at all that it is a fake piano. That is a myth. Their is no such thing as a fake versus real piano unless you are talking about the baby toy that you had growing up and then getting on a acoustic piano. The baby toy is a toy but quit calling a digital piano a toy or fake that is not true. Like i said. I know exactly what i am talking about because i live, breath, and basically eat no sarcasm here but this is true pianos. I do play both so you can not tell me that i don’t know what i am talking about and the car annalygie does work the best or flying a plane versus driving a car. It is the exact same thing. Digital versus acoustic. Yes they are totally different beasts and they are no where the same but they are 2 real pianos…. Just like a keyboard. That is not a piano. It is smaller than a piano and the Keats are totally different. The have springy sanction.
@@benjaminbrown5245 Shouldn't a keyboard made to feel like a piano be called an electric piano? Growing up, that was I used to practice piano. Before that I learned keyboard which the keys were very light and kinda bouncy? Keyboards are used a lot by music producers cuz it produces a lot of sounds but the feel to it is not real. If the feel to a keyboard is like a piano and it sounds like a piano but not an acoustic one then it's referred to as electric piano (in my country it translates to that). My piano teacher always advised against using the keyboard cuz in the long run it would ruin your technique so it was better to get an electric piano aka a keyboard that "feels" like piano. If digital piano here means the keyboard that are generally used by music producers and brought around and stuff then I don't think that it is a real piano. My terminology could be wrong cuz I grew up learning piano in my native language and not English. I played the keyboard and the called it "the organ????" but later I found out it was actually a keyboard. From my experience, a keyboard isn't a real piano but an "electric piano" is a real piano.
First off, I just discovered your channel, and have enjoyed it very much, thank you! But please be careful about falling into “piano snobbery”. Not everyone who lives in a city or suburb can afford a detached single family home. When what your family can afford is an apartment, perhaps a very small one, a digital piano or keyboard may be your only option for getting in a reasonable amount of practice time. And I know there are “silent pianos”, but if finances are tight, they are expensive and there isn’t a large used market of them. I relearned piano as a mom of two young kids. Practicing had to happen after they were in bed, so my digital piano was a blessing. If even one single person isn’t learning piano because they feel that a digital piano is what they would have to use, but feel embarrassed that it’s not a “real” piano that would be so sad, in my opinion. Also, I feel very strongly that the “authentic and heartfelt” aspect of music comes from the musician, not the instrument.
I’ve owned many acoustic pianos in my life. Last one was a 25 year old used Baldwin R 5’8”. A first it was a wonderful piano. But within a few months I had trouble with odd sounds that would come and go. Had a few technicians try and fix it with no success. After 3 years I sold the Baldwin and bought a cheap digital Casio. Much happier since no need for tunings or upkeep. Takes up much less space and I don’t need a humidifier in the winter or air conditioning in the summer to baby the piano.
For me, it's always a digital piano. As others have mentioned, being able to use headphones is very important and the added bonus is that you can connect it to your computer and use it with lots of cool music software. And honestly, my Yamaha DGX-660b feels pretty real to me and sounds awesome :).
I have the Yamaha DGX-660b as well and I love it more than the upright piano that I grew up with as it's always in tune and with literally hundreds of instrumental sounds/samples to play around with. It's awesome!
This is so true! I get you as i started off with a digital piano. After playing for about a year or less, i invested and bought a 2nd hand acoustic piano and yes indeed the feeling is so different. So glad that i've got the acoustic piano and able to use it for my exams.
Glad to hear the acoustic piano is working out for you Grace! :)
@@jazerleepiano I love your channel
Grace Tan that is so true. Now I am a working pianist and I do play both. It doesn’t matter how good digitals are they are not the same they are compleetly a different beast than the acoustic counter part. When you only play acoustic pianos if you go and play on a digital you will fee something way off like something is broke but it is not true it is the way that the digital works compared to the acoustic. Now if you play both then you have the knowledge of how both of them are played. Yes both of them have 88 keys but the action and play is compleetly different. You are so right on. I love playing both but honestly I love the digital pianos. You can do so much more with them. On the other hand if you are wanting to play classical or perform in a concert than a digital on that hand is not the piano to use. You would then want an acoustic grand piano because of that string resonance. Now for production of music that is where the digital comes in.
Benjamin Brown Yes that’s right! I’m seriously considering of getting an upgrade soon because I really need too. I’m already pursing for the Grade5 exam and unfortunately my piano keys are too light to train out all the techniques and dynamics. Oh I’ve actually spot on this piano Zimmermann S6, it has a wonderful tone and the touch are just gorgeous! While looking back, digital piano comes in handy to the extend if I need to play late at night or do some recording for myself :)
Grace Tan awesome!!!
This is so true, I just started piano lessons and bought a keyboard like a week ago but I practiced on the the "real thing" yesterday and it felt AMAZING
Hey Jazer, I use both. Couldn’t do without my digital Yamaha CLP for practising new pieces and scales etc. Doing repetitions on the acoustic does my head in. I use the acoustic piano when pieces are ready to play.
Get both an acoustic piano and a keyboard. I have both. I practice on my keyboard anytime with headphone so I don't bother anyone. I play on my upright acoustic piano on my final practice or when I want the acoustic piano quality sound. Keyboard sounds like a toy piano but I can use headphone.
The problem is that not everyone can afford that ._.
@@krissvtar8912 ye but at least afford lessons or your technique might get a bit messed up, especially if the keyboard you use is designed as an "electric/digital" piano.
"The real thing really feels real"
- Jazer 2019
Jokes apart, you've got very nice points there, and i completely agree with the fact that an acoustic piano is in fact the real deal. But actually, beginners can work with a keyboard too, and it is berter choice because of the low cost. Because if they don't like the instrument and want to stop learning it all of a sudden, it will be a very painful waste of money with an actualy piano lol
Also, there are more types of keyboards like synthesizers and midi stuff, something that can also be considered by people to buy
They're pretty cheap too
@@varunsathya696 I played keyboard before piano. It was way different. If beginners want to get a keyboard get one that imitates the feel of a piano, which is referred to as an "electric piano" in my country and maybe other countries too.
Ideally, I think having both is the best. Night time practice in many peoples lives is unacceptably loud for other to deal with on a real piano, for neighbours, family members, etc. What I love about digital pianos is you can just put some headphones on or just turn it down low and your free to practice without disturbing everyone
Thanks... I can finally decide what to start for...
It was an easy decision for me....we don't have room for a piano. I learned how to play when I was a child . A digital keyboard , at least, affords me a way to play & I have to say, it's fun to be able to change the sounds. It makes practicing more fun.
We've lived all sorts of places.It wouldn't have been practical to own a piano . They're not easy to move on your own!
Just found you. I am a total beginner. I have tried a few tutorials on you tube. I think your is great. You explain things very clearly and I am finding it so much fun. Thank you so much. I will be watching all your videos. 🎹
I respect and understand your opinion and point of view. It’s very different of that of a beginner or someone born in the eighties, who appreciates synthesizers like me, I went with kawai kdp 120 and I appreciate it a lot, when I am better I will make a new choice
I like having both.
Playing an acoustic beats any digital piano any day.
Digital with head phones is great for practice when it's late and you don't want disturb anyone.
Hi Jazer! I recently came upon your site here. You are a very enthusiastic music teacher and it's clear to see that you have a great passion for piano! Really enjoy your lessons here ;)
I'm an adult learners. For the first 3 years I just practicing with my digital piano. then I notice , even i was good practicing at home , when the time I practicing in piano lesson with grand piano it's like I hit the keys too much and I lost my focus. So I decided to buy used upright piano. I practicing with both of them..
So your recommendation for beginners?
Banyong Sering Digital for the beginners all the way.
Joseph Blaze thanks ya
@@adambensering9057 digital piano for beginners but probably you can try sometimes with upright piano. So you will know how to control your fingers.
wishyou werehere thanks ya. I’m about to buy something for my bday. My parents want me to choose anything u like. I decided Piano but i know nothing bout it.
This is one of the most important topics in piano training these days. There are compelling reasons for either approach. In my case space, direct recording, and practicing at any hour led to an electronic approach. BUT, all of that can be reduced to one thing (acoustic or electronic) - action. This became critical as I set a workstation up for my daughter who's lessons and recitals were on acoustic pianos. It's also crucial to develop reasonable pianistic technique. This is where many 'digital pianos' fail. SO, pay attention to graded, hammer action and escapement. Escapement is often overlooked but it's part of every acoustic piano because a 'piano action' is a mechanical construct. And your keyboard must support a proper triple pedal. Research that as much as the sounds. Today (Nov. 2021) Rolands PHA-50 and the Kawai Grand Feel III (GF) Wooden-Key Action do a good job of simulating a grand piano feel and connection with the 'instrument'. Then use something like Pianoteq modeled piano software and you will have a capable solution for developing proper technique and one that records beautifully. Not to mention never being told when 'not' to practice. My favorite time is early morning.
Some things to keep in mind with keyboards. If you can afford it get one that has at least 76 full size keys and that the keys are weighted. It's also best to get a bench and stand that are designed to work with it. Also make sure both the black and white keys are weighted properly. I know one manufacturer had an issue with at least one of it's models where the white keys were fine but the black keys required the pianist to strike them a lot harder which made the unit much harder to play.
What about 61 keys?
If you have access to a real piano at church or college, then a digital is fine at home.
You can't take a Grand onto a boat or a campervan!
It's worth looking at ads because people often give away pianos which are taking up home space.
Hi, Jazer. Thank you so much for your video about the bass clef! It was very helpful even for this old geezer. It's helping me with Chopin ballades and polonaises. I was getting really rusty.
I wish I had space even for an upright. I would get a good Yamaha like my teacher's. It sounds almost like a baby grand.
I'm not a fan of the sonic artifacts in digital pianos. It's not just hearing the sample ranges and looped sustain, there are other subtle audible issues. I was very pleased when my son told me one day our digital piano was "broken"; it meant his ear had become attuned enough to hear these too.
The other thing I dislike is that despite weighted keys, velocity sensitivity does not adequately model the force sensitivity of a real piano - particularly in pianissimo but also the lack of response to weight results in playing from the elbows. I'm only at Grade 2 on the piano but even I can detect the difference.
I have an upright acoustic piano. I bought an electric Yamaha Clavinova because I had young kids and so couldn’t play the acoustic after 7pm. Now my boys are teenagers, it has switched and I have to use the electric keyboard with headphones if I want to play before 10am! Even though the keys are weighted on the Clavinova and I can practice effectively on it, I much prefer to use the acoustic as I can really work on my touch & quality of sound. This isn’t really possible at the same level with the electric.
Thanks for all the videos Jazer!
I am planning to buy a digital piano and while I am doing my research, I came across your video. I'm glad I did! I will soon buy a digital piano and I will come back to your channel for when I start learning and practicing. So glad I found your channel!
As a piano teacher of beginners, I get this question a lot, so Thankyou for this video.
The New Yamaha P 515 is awesome. It contains the famous Yamaha CFX Concert Grand sound as well as the Bosendorfer Imperial Grand.
The Keys are wood and tops are textured to resemble ivory. The action has escapement and captures string and damper resonance which are adjustable as well as the touch. It is the finest sounding and playing digital on the market.
@Rick Barber Better than clavinova and other Yamaha non portable pianos ? I’m asking as I’m planning a purchase...
Both great instruments! The p515 does a lot of the things a clavinova does, but not everything! Some clavinovas have quite a few more options. And the over all speaker system in th clavinovas are generally better by both loudness and quality. I would consider the p515 as the music majors go to practice instrument. And the clavinova the actual recital instrument in the digital world. Two great and totally different beasts
@@Smitty-hc8sb thanks
I personally find the Yamaha Arius YDP-181 to create a more full sound than the P 515 as well as to be a more versatile piano overall, but just marginally. Honestly, either piano is fantastic. I only wish the Arius was still being made. I could really use a not clicky piano.
The 1 thing that gets you get into trouble with a DP is a Suzuki teacher. I met several of them over the years and they wanted students to practice on an acoustic as soon as they start their lessons to get the touch and feel of the real thing.
I have an 88-DP at home for more than 5 years and no has no problem with it. With I'm done, the instrument can go into the closet so I have more space in the room. And if I don't like practicing in 1 room, I just move it to another in minutes. You wouldn't do that with an upright.
The bigger detail that make me prefer “real” piano is the sound and resonance.
I have a keyboard and it is great to practice. I took one with the feel of real piano keys and a faithful sound... But man ! When I play on a real one... even my parent’s one which is untuned, it can give me shivers all over my spine with some pieces. For me this really is another level of experience...
I want a real piano T_T
Well put Mouyrf! What is currently stopping you from getting a real piano?
I live in an apartment so I am worried I could disturb my neighbors
My piano is about 85db loud. There is nothing I love more than waking up in the morning and playing my "wakeup" song. I can feel the thing reverberating though the walls, the floor, and in turn my bum. If I set on a roll and walk to the other end of the house, I can feel the bass all the way on the other end.
I started playing on both a keyboard and an acoustic (spinet). A year ago when I wanted to upgrade I considered getting a higher end digital piano or a bigger acoustic. After considering my options for months and trying a lot of different options, I ended up buying a slightly used Yamaha GB1K baby grand. It looks beautiful in my living room, sounds wonderful, and I feel happy sitting for hours a day playing on it. i stop playing at 9:30 when my daughter goes to sleep and by that time I’m ready to stop. In the end, everyone gets what they prefer, what they can afford, and what type of instrument fits their lifestyle. But I’m so blessed to have a gorgeous looking and sounding instrument to play on. Even if I’m just an intermediate pianist.
Couldn't agree more. I had a clavinova for a few years and it was very clever, but NOTHING takes the place of the real deal I now have a Challen baby grand, sounds great, looks great. No comparison..
Great video! I have both.. my Baldwin upright piano from 1978 and a kurzweil pc2x keyboard from the early 2000’s. I tend to play mostly on the actual piano though!
Writing this in 2022, the newest high quality digital pianos are excellent and much more affordable than they were 10 years ago.
"The real thing really feels real" - this awesome RUclipsr I'm seeing for the first time :)
I like practicing on a digital piano with good sampling and multiple voices because it makes repetitive practice more interesting.
I have a hybrid: real grand piano action w synthesized sound. Feel like the action is superior to an acoustic upright piano and you get to stay in a modest sized house.
I learned piano before covid but only beginner level and stopped at covid. My piano now barely is played and the notes sounds a bit off and the pedal is broken. I also wanted to get a keyboard for a while so should I get one or just repair my piano
This would depend on what kind of piano you have, how extensive is the repair going to be (or how costly it will be), etc. You would need to weigh the pros and cons.
Subscribed. I watch a lot of piano on RUclips, its part of my effort of love for the piano for more than forty years. I still don't read music or play like I should, but I still love it. I play by ear, and it interferes with my sight reading, I just play it with some help from memory. My reason to comment to your channel, is to encourage you to continue to put in honest advice, it reaches across national boundaries and cultures, and makes difference to folks like me. before days of RUclips I used to English dictionaries and actually repair and tune secondhand piano to a working condition. My first inspiration was Sound of Music, now I listen to Jazz and attempt playing it. No I'm no-good at all, but when has that stopped me?
i had a nice upright old piano. But I now live in a Senior Apartment. I am looking for a keyboard for size with head phones so as not to bother neighbors.
My Roland FP30 is very much equivalent to my Steinway Model O, The weighted keys of the Roland is feels like the real thing. Going to play a Steinway Concert grand at the music store with my other friends, the store rents out the recital hall. That doe sit for me.
I purchased a Yamaha P125 digital. I like that it has a full keyboard (88 keys) and graded hammer standard. It sounds and feels like a "real" piano with the added benefits you mentioned PLUS I can plug in headphones so my family and neighbors don't have to listen to me learn. I agree that anyone who plans to perform will need an acoustic piano or at least access to one.
Just subscribed and am enjoying your vids--thanks Jazer.
T-marie N thanks for checking out this vid!! What songs or pieces are you working on right now?
@@jazerleepiano I'm in the very early stages so Ode to Joy, When the Saints Go Marching In, etc. I'm using RUclips, online classes and books--at 70 I'd rather do it this way than have a piano teacher. Maybe I'll regret that decision or maybe I'll change my mind--but for now I just want to get my music reading skills down pat and learn the basic stuff. It's only for my own enjoyment and I also hope it helps with memory (it used to be great--now not so much).
Good on you T-Marie, it's great to hear you are pursuing piano at 70. Wonderful decision in my opinion. Keep it up!
Dude are you still rolling 😂@@T-marie-N
@@pranavjayaprakasanut Hey, dude! I am. Still not great, or even good, at piano playing but I enjoy it so I keep truckin'.
Casio PX860 also looks and feels like the 'real deal' .
So does every clevanio series
(Also you forgot to say that some keyboards don't have pedals)
Hello from Ukraine and thank u for this video. I think that choice is one of the most important choices that musician should to do.
You are right Euglena!
I love your analogy about the fake flowers vs the real flowers. On one level they can be used interchangeably (in your own home, you can have either fake or real flowers -- it's up to you). But there will be many times where one cannot substitute for one another because they are far too different -- if you want to become a florist you should probably work with real flowers rather than fake ones, because there's so much more to a flower than how it looks from a distance.
Nice channel by the way, awesome to see your uploads! :)
@@jazerleepiano oh! t-thank you XD
screamingpiano we have to get our minds away from real and fake when it comes for pianos. I am a working pianist I do play both digital and acoustic. That is what they are named. They are both real what are you going to do. Call an electric car a fake car??? No they are both real it just happens that one operates on a different level but they are both real. Well, the same with the piano. An acoustic piano is a piano like its cousin. It just so happens that you should work and practice and hone your skills on the acoustic before getting on a digital. A digital is going to take your playing to the next level meaning that you ar going to bee creative on a digital piano you can do that on an acoustic but you need more things to help with recording where as a digital if you have tons of things on it you can record and do all your studio work right their on the piano. That is the advantage of the digital piano. But they are both real... same thing with cars. A gas powered or electric powered is both real. They are just powered by 2 different file types. One is file and one is electric but they are both real.
@@benjaminbrown5245 i love how you defend your stance, and yes i agree with you.
@@youareallfeckinboring Well, it totally makes sense. A digital piano is a compleetly different beast than the acoustic piano. The acoustic piano is going to give the beginner the feeling of performance and you will bee getting prepared to play in concert halls. I am glad that you agree because I have been through it and know what it is like. It is better to start from the acoustic piano and get the feeling of control before moving onto the digital piano. The digital has a compleetly different action and feel. In order to play a digital you need to bee able to have the thestarting of knowledge of piano skills first. Then the other will make sense to you as driving a car is to flying planes. Totally different beasts but their both vehicles. The thing it’s the acoustic piano is that you want to bee able to hear the overtones as you are playing. With a digital you are not going to get the overtones and string resonance.
I have a keyboard with "hammer-action" weighted keys, which is a fancy way of saying that it feels like a real piano, even if it doesn't sound or look like one. It actually takes more force to press a key on a real piano, so I find when I practice something on piano, then play it on a regular keyboard or vice versa, my technique is off. Thanks to my practice keyboard with weighted keys, I can take everything I practice to a real piano no problem, even if I haven't seen a real piano in months.
I don't think my keyboard has any additional features like he mentioned in the video, outside of a built-in metronome and a few preset sounds. I honestly bought the cheapest one on the market and didn't worry about digital features. I wonder if there's a weighted keyboard that does.
It also just has the one sustain pedal, not all three.
I got a digital piano for Christmas & at first it continually turned off after pressing some keys eventually got new batteries & learned the others I originally put in it were new but defective.
Now it works 😁
I do like the look & overall aura of a real piano but in my opinion I have to earn the right to play on one im still at a scrub level learning basics but 1 day, maybe a few years I'd feel ready for it.
Only ever seen a real piano on tv or internet even the local guitar center only has keyboards
As a kid, my family had a nice acoustic piano. But, we also lived in a house with high ceilings and wood floors. I wish we had a digital piano instead because every time I practiced my family would yell at me to stop because of the echo. They always wanted to watch TV and would get upset when I practiced.
No matter how expensive a digital pianos may be, all of them fall far short in projecting expressiveness through harmonic colouring, because there is the complete absence of interactive resonance. If you play a C chord on a digital piano, you hear simultaneous recordings of C, E, and G. On an acoustic piano however, there is an interaction of the strings - the C, E, and G vibrate sympathetically to each other, which affects the harmonic balance. Add to that the bass notes played by the left hand. By controlling the dynamics and the pedal, an adept performer can exert control on this effect, thereby achieving desirable harmonic colouring, and giving each note a tone of its own. It is of considerable significance, for the difference in tone between a violin and a harmonica is entirely the effect of inharmonicity and harmonic balance. This is why acoustic pianos are the almost always the choice of virtuosos for both practice and performance.
Modern digital pianos simulate resonance. For example, my yamaha p125 has this feature
@@VolodymyrTorkalo / It is impossible to get interactive resonance of strings with an electronic piano, because there is the total absence of strings! The harmonic balance of C played alone is absolutely not the same as the harmonic balance of C when E and G are played with it. There is not a single virtuoso in the world today who uses an electronic piano on stage or in the studio. In order to achieve the tone that they so adeptly conjure, they practice only on acoustic pianos. Expressiveness is essential to the proper performance of the great works of the piano.
@@williamsmyth5047 I tested this feature by holding one key down (without sound) and pressing another key octave higher: with pressed two keys sound is different - i can hear slight resonance of first key.
If press single key there is no sound of resonance.
This is even mentioned in manual that resonance is simulated (but only on first default grand piano voice)
Why this should be not possible when you have computers? Today we have very powerfull tools for digital signals processing.
@@VolodymyrTorkalo / This can't be done by sampling, because there are billions of nuances due to dynamics and chord structures. Yamaha is capable of a lot. Line 6, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Yamaha, is an industry leader in guitar processors. However, when it comes to pianos, you need strings, so that each note is unique. That is why, despite their digital pianos, they manufacture acoustic pianos - big expensive pianos that require tuning and humidity control - because that's what musicians need for expressiveness.
Where do you stay sir. Your explanation, teaching, playing with ease is just awesome.
when you live in a condo it is not good to have an acoustic piano since your neighbors will be vexed by the sound and digital pianos nowadays have hammer weighted keys although not as authentic as the real one still will do the job without disturbing others. acoustic piano is ideal if you live in a biog house not a condo
Love this. I am a pianist for a living. Now one thing is that digital pianos and keyboards are not the same. The keyboard is smaller in some cases it is a full 88 key but normally,,, the keyboard has springy action like a synthesizer. It also has semi weighted keys. A digital piano on the other hand has a keyboard but it is the resemblance of the acoustic piano. Now when you talk about a real piano this is another thing. What do you mean by real here. A digital piano is a real piano. So when we say a real piano what are we talking about here. A piano has strings of course and damper and other pedals the system pro and soft pedals. Well, a digital Janos it’s the same but it doesn’t have strings. It is their fore a real piano. So we have to watch our verbiage when we are talking about wheat is real. It is like a car. If you said. I want a real car,,,, now what are you really talking about when you say this. A car has wheels you can sit in it and drive. You have a gasoline car and electric. You are not going to say Oh. I want a real car when you have an electric car right because they are both real. They are. A mode of transportation... O.K. Pianos again. A digital piano is a piano no matter how you look at it. It just comes in a different form. Now keyboards are played different my than a piano or digital piano. You have accompaniment in the left hand on the keyboard and you have sounds that you would use that are not on a digital piano. Now you do have digital pianos that you can play like a keyboard style but when you say keyboard/digital piano this is the wrong way to talk..... a synthesizer is not a keyboard. The style that you play a synth is a bit different. So we have to watch how we come across on how we present things. Good video though.
Somebody get this guy a crown!!! 👑
@Banx no problem. You are more than welcome!!
nah - let's not mess around here. A 'real' piano is quite simply an acoustic piano. Same as one day we'll look back a lust after 'real' cars or hanging out with 'real' people. Some things are just better 'real'.
@@tombarnes3004 dude!!! I know what i am talking about here. Then you know i am a working pianist and I was raised around this stuff. I was born into a musician family. Ummmm I know what i am talking about here. A digital piano is a real piano. What are you going to call it a fake piano? Or a toy piano come on. It’s obvious that you don’t know. A digital paino is a real piano. What is the problem here. This is not messing around. People need to bee educated and its obvious that you need to bee educated. The thing that is different is that a digital does not have strings but an acoustic does. An acoustic is a real piano and so is a digital. Both the pianos are not the same I know this cause i play both. I know what i am talking about here. That is like saying an electric car is not a real car. What do you mean what is real!!!! Come on. An electric car is real and so is a gas powered car. You know this. What are you going to say. Oh I want to play a real organ when you sit at an electric organ. What???? Just cause it is electric what are you going to say. Is it fake no. It is real. Just like the pipe organ. And just to let you know a digital piano is not an electric piano. They are for 2 different pianos. Yes. You plug them both in but a digital has no sound like the electric. The electric piano was used back in the 1960’s and 1970’s. It had hammers of course but it did not even sound like a digital. A digital piano resembles a acoustic piano in that it has a sound engine. Where as an electric piano does not. It has tines that were struck. See so the functions are different. If you are a pianist you should know these things. Don’t make me look stupid here.
@@benjaminbrown5245 You're very literal aren't you mate? Also: "People need to bee educated and its obvious that you need to bee educated. " Case closed on that display of education then.
Best advice - have both. I have a Yama Portable Grand for my office and a 1929 Gulbransen at the house. Best of both worlds. Thank God I tune that GB myself. I have no idea what it would cost to get a professional tuner up in my mountains.
Twice a year. Minimum.
If you are getting a keyboard, get a FULL keyboard so you can develop spatial awareness with your hands that will translate to any real piano.
Great resource! Definitely helped me a lot
It's an easy choice for me since I have neither the room or the money for a real piano.
Thank you so much Jaser. I’ve learned lot of useful information from you. I wish to stay in your town to have a piano lesson with you face to face. Alex
I would love to have an acoustic piano. I have a keyboard but the keys are getting loose, making a very annoying clicking sound. I find them slippery. I prefer the feel of the keys on an acoustic piano.
I also prefer the sound of an acoustic piano much more.
I think it's different for a classical oriented person or for a person who likes to play pop and dance.
all i can say, that my yamaha ez300 has one defaut, the key are very noisy xD
get it during black friday, it's okay for a beginner, didnt wanted to spend more and will upgrade if i keep praticing those next 4/5 year
The way u teach is pleasing and encouraging but for theory speaking is ok but to learn playing you need play and show us, the students. I mean demonstration following the explaining part or theory part. Thanks for doing that to me.
I recently bought the komplete control s88 with hammered keys and for me that's perfect. (I make dance and pop music). I'm not good enough to get everything out of an real piano.
Now you've put my mind in a bit of turmoil! 🤣 I am in the process of buying a piano. It's a toss up between an upright or digital piano. I was tending to go towards a digital with fully weighted keys. Problem is - I can hear the difference between the real thing and not the real thing. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ive been living almost all of my life in my grandparent's house, they have an acoustic piano, And I've played on it a lot now that its worn down and they don't bother to repair it Im thinking of buying one.
Though a piano that big wouldn't fit in my room😔 also the feel of digital keyboard feels a bit light to the touch and different to me, also we get black outs a lot.. It would be nice to find something space conserving and at the same time wireless or doesn't need to be plugged 😭
In post soviet nations you can find free acoustic pianos quite easily, mine was free, and no, they aren't broken or anything, all you need is to tune them, that is also cheap here
I love your channel but I don't like that you didn't distinguish keyboards from digital pianos, they have some important differences
How to check if your piano was tuned well? Especially a beginner
I’m gonna be able to buy a Yamaha E363 portable keyboard and I’m so excited
hey, did you already buy it? it is great?
If I may ask. What if I don’t plan to play piano at all. What are the pros and cons of getting an electronic keyboard and sticking with it for life. I would be using it for piano sounds, as well as all the other sounds, as well as midi. Does the keyboard need to have weighted keys and pedals and all. Thanks.
I really enjoy your energy! 😄
I started with a keyboard..but the keys for me felt really unrealistic..because of their thingness..it wasn't until I upgraded to a piano..acoustic digital full-size one that I really felt I was at "one"per say with my fingers and touch..still the plus side was that I learnt to become familiar with the keys and notes at the stage...p.s..I'm not sure if my piano is acoustic or digital..😳..lol..the keys are real and feel real...but I do plug it in to the mains..wish I could insert a picture...I will when I have time and comment on another video..
3:51 not if kids come in and play it and one of the strings break
Why this video won't load
Even if I out on the lowest quality it keeps buffering
Other videos are normal
Is it RUclips not wanting me to watch this video
Michael850 is it still buffering ?
No
Already bought a piano so I don't need to watch it anymore
not sure about fake flower analogy though, because digital piano also delivers sound not just visual, a better comparison would be ICE vs electric cars or any other analogue vs digital devices like those synthesizers, for a lot of beginners out there, the benefits of having a digital piano outweighs an acoustic one, plus living condition plays a huge factor, everyone can play piano and enjoy (which is the most important thing, to enjoy not to impress or prove something), but I understand perfectly that having such a hobby gravitates to the wealthier end of the society, especially you'll have to at least own a house to fully accommodate a 'real thing', wink wink nudge nudge, that being said, very informative channel, keep up the good stuff!
I am living in a small village of india no one know here what is piano or keyboard but my uncle has a farm house and we have here a very old acoustic piano but no one knows to play piano in my village
What piano are YOU playing in your videos?
Some pianos have a sourness in their notes, but every note you play RINGS. So, what instrument do you play? And why did you choose that one?
When it comes to acoustic pianos, it really does depend on the piano. A Steinway grand is nothing like a Yamaha upright.
You said it right Jazer. 👍😁
For me, its definitely a digital piano (which Ive been playing for years now), mainly because I can practice with headphones and because of the different settings and sounds which makes practice soo much more fun. That being said, I do want to play on an actual piano (I have maybe 2 times veryy briefly) because I know the sound is just magical and just to experience the real deal. I think, if possible, having both is the best option (digital for practice and more creativity and real piano for final pieces and performances)!
I can REALLY recommend the ,,SP5600 Portable Grand Keyboard" from Thomann!! It is really really good, has 88 weighted keys and sounds really close to an actual acoustic piano! AND it only costs about 360€!!!
Thanks for the very informative vid. I am considering buying "fake flowers" for my grand daughter. Maybe when she's old enough and rich enough, she can buy herself the "real" thing.😊
To be honest, only reason i'd buy a real one is if I had the money. But lack of money shouldn't prevent someone from learning and playing music.
I just bought a roland go 61p today i am a student whit not much money so 300 euro’s for it was okay doesnt feel cheap. Like the yamaha psr versions
Having tried a real piano once and knowing what a real piano feels like in comparison I would really have to love a real acoustic piano. But since I live in a small home (my room is 2,5 x 4m) in a house with really thin walls and since I don`t even have money for a real teacher I am happy that digital pianos exist. They are cheaper, can be very compact and I can play even at night without disturbing my neighbours. So I`m happy with it. In my situation there is not the choice between getting a real acoustic piano or a digital piano - because without digital pianos I wouldn`t have the chance to play at all. Most people don`t have the money and the space.
I tried to give the digital piano a chance. Truly! But it couldn't match the real thing. Digital piano are improving regarding the touch expecially the hybrid piano but they are as expensive as acoustic piano. I would also add that digital piano are lightweight. I play at home on an acoustic piano and take lessons on a keyboard (weird, usually it's the other way around) and it feels weird all the wobbling and movement on the support when you play on a keyboard.
Of course, as far as sound and feel goes, the acoustic piano is unbeatable
Brother i Want my Finger to Run On My Keyboard or Digital Piano Like *Bullet Train* The reason why I Daily Practice All Scales In 60 to 100 BPM
I Hope My Fingers Will Run Fast Of I Practice That Till Next *5 Year* ☺☺
Good points. This is definitely something a new player has to think about. Just get what it right for you and your space. If you enjoy playing you will probably get and use different instruments over time. Also, the piano is a keyboard instrument so I would say what is better for you a digital or electric piano or an acoustic piano. Also I want to add that an electric piano needs to be powered and acoustic not so much… Like all things, get the best one you can get to learn with because your enjoyment and overall experience will be better. I generally don’t like “student” grade things because they don’t function or feel nice so I wonder why anyone would put the time into an art or craft if it does not feel nice at the very beginning of the learning journey. You don’t have to go pro at the start but at least get a good thing to work with while learning, if at all possible. Also, look for used pianos, some people give them away for free!
What do you think of the Yamaha P515? (PS. What a brilliant teacher you are!!!)
I started with an upright (acoustic/analog) piano ----- and unfortunately - after many years, the wooden sound-board developed a physical issue, where the piano would keep getting out of tune not too long after a tune-up. So ended up needing to give away that wonderful and trusty upright (for parts etc) - and the digital keyboard journey began. I then played unweighted key digital synthesiser keyboards for quite a while. I don't mind unweighted keys. But now, I play both sorts - unweighted key instruments and weighted key ones. The modern digital pianos are leaps-and-bounds better in sounds and key-weight when compared with many old-school keyboards and old-school digital pianos. Some of these modern digital pianos are very good indeed - which includes sound quality as well as the feel of the keys and key-weighting. I really like both varieties ----- digital and acoustic/analog pianos. Naturally - digital pianos require electricity to operate, while acoustic pianos don't need the electricity to work. Although, with acoustic pianos - you can't plug head-phones into it in order to not annoy or bother others in the house (or next door etc). So ------ for those that like both, it's also possible to get the best of both worlds buy buying both a digital piano and an acoustic piano - if conditions allow for it that is.
Wow! nice feedback as we are in a lock-down. We have an old Piano and never been touched in the last 20 years so I decided to self taught myself at this lock-down life in NZ :) but i have also wanted to get a Keyboard as well so now you are talking i might not buy one and just carry on using the old Piano. So, Did you have use a keyboard during your childhood learning Piano? Give me some advise. Keep up the great work
I purchased a used Keyboard. I don’t want to spend a fortune on a piano and I don’t learn how to play it 😂
Yes, I have a Keyboard. I love bringing to my backyard and play.
I am doing well. So I am planning to but a real piano down the road. But for beginners, I recommend to buy a keyboard first.
Eh, seems kind of unfair to say that a keyboard is less real than a piano, because it can do almost all the same things if you have a good one. It's kind of implying that it's more of a toy than an instrument which does a disservice to it and feels classist.
I travel a lot and I found it very hand to fit my piano into the boot of the car. I bought a digital piano and I practice on both. The sound and timbre of the digital piano is dead, an acoustic piano is alive and every time I play the acoustic piano it will sound different, just like all live performance. EVERYTHING in the environment effects the timbre of an acoustic piano, how I feel, how I touch the keys, even how I press the pedals, an acoustic piano is the real thing.
If one is starting out, buy a 2nd hand digital say AU$500-600, work with it. In 6 or so months you will know if the piano is for you. What you do after that is up to you. If you don’t like piano selling the digital may, may allow you to recoup what you paid for the digital. Recouping the cost of a piano, well, you would have a better chance winning Lotto.
Hi, Jazer,
Is Roland FB serial digital piano a good choice for beginner? I would like to hear your opinion about it, thanks!
Jazer, I have been playing a digital piano for many years and I need to buy a replacement. Can you suggest a name brand? Thanks.
A real piano also has both a damper pedal and a soft pedal, while an electric piano only has a damper pedal. For beginners this isn’t a problem, but for advanced students you will need that added feature of a soft pedal if you want to have full control of your dynamics while playing more complex works. Some songs will even specify that they want you to use the soft pedal at times.
I dream of having a real acoustic piano but that's just not in the cards for me at the moment. However, the best I could do was get a hybrid that has actual grand piano style hammers (and full length wooden keys) and while it still doesn't charge the spirit quite like the genuine thing, I can still *almost* convince myself that it's real - bonus it looks like a nice upright.
But you're right. Deep down I know it's not the real thing. Pre-COVID I was taking in-person lessons (doing online now) and I got to play a nice acoustic piano every week back then and I definitely miss that feeling of connection with a real instrument. I love the nuances!
One day...
I prefer a digital piano cause I can play at anytime without bothering anyone. I also like transposing a piece to another key so I don't get bored practicing the piece.
I'll buy an Acoustic Piano when I move to a soundproof building.
Digital keyboards are the piano of choice for a beginner. They weigh a few pounds, fit in the back seat of your car and can be placed easily in some corner of the room. Plus you can use headphones and not feel embarrassed/self-conscious when you sound awful.
As a beginner, you don't care about how the keys feel, their action, or tone. Your only concern is " will I still be playing in 3 months? or will I grow bored with this and quit? If so you can get rid of a keyboard easily.
Also you can buy a keyboard in some thrift shop for $20 to $100. I bought 2 keyboards in thrift stores , one for the den, one for my hobby room. Used keyboards are cheap. If you get bored, you can throw it away, or give it away.
If the instrument truly grabs you, you'll know in 3 months. At that point start thinking about upgrading to a more serious instrument. Again buy used. Lots of quality keyboards on craigslist like Rolands, Yamahas, etc. Offered by people who jumped into piano and grew bored. Instruments with good key feel, good tone, and good response. Get a real nice one for $200 to $400 at most, which originally sold for double, triple or more.
Which of your videos should I start with? I am a beginner. And, in what order should I watch them. Thanks in advance.
I've been thinking lately about what should I buy, either a keyboard or a piano? The answer is here. Hahaha I totally agree with your opinion. The piano is way different than digital. I need it now!
Is it ok prefer the Williams grand mini piano or the DGX 670. BOTH WITH BLUETOOTH AND THE WILLIAMS HAS A LIGHTHING KEY. PLEASE i need to decide soon
Hello Jazer. Thank you for your videos. Pls i need to decide between a DGX 670 YAMAHA AND A WILLIAMS WHITE GRAND PIANO MINI . BOYH WITH BLUETOOTH and Williams looks beautiful. But I don't know if is it ok the sound . Please help;) thank youuuu!. Great job always!