Ken, those saved today, under Paul's gospel of Grace, given to him by Jesus, are not called sheep. We are called Ambassadors and are members of the body of Christ. God has a different program for messianic christian's saved prior to Paul's Gospel of Grace. There is the Church in the wilderness = Mosaic church. the Church saved by believing in Christ as the long awaited Messiah = Messianic church. ( saved when Jesus came the first time ) This salvation has been postponed because of National Israel's rejection of their King and Kingdom offer when Jesus came the first time. It will be reinstated when they will cry out, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. TODAY, we have The Body of Christ Church = saved by Grace. National Israel inherit the Kingdom on earth = Millennial Kingdom. They rule and reign on earth. We, as members of the body of Christ, rule and reign in heaven. Our promises are heavenly.
@@stevegoode1504 hey Steve. It appears that you and Joy misunderstand a very basic truth. The gospel is not something to argue with Christians about. It is the good news to be preached to the unsaved. I hope you are winning more souls than arguments. And for the record I totally disagree with your doctrine. There is only one gospel for Jew and Gentile. I have heard and studied your doctrine in the past and am convinced it is not only erroneous but designed to bring confusion and division into the body of Christ. I will not enter into discussion with you about it because I will not be drawn away from what God has called me to. I wish you both well. ruclips.net/video/CekG1NuV300/видео.htmlsi=Aol-cIryG9PN3pg8
@@KenLegg Hi Ken, thank you for at least responding. Who is the person who is arguing ? just letting you know that this is not my doctrine, it is the doctrine that Christ gave to His apostle Paul, to the Gentiles. am puzzled why you reject it. Was hoping that you would have a heart for the truth of God's word. Sadly, what i have found recently, is rightly dividing the Word of God 2TIM 2 :15 is to bigger price to pay for most pastors. As they have to much to lose. I pray that you would take the time to revisit this subject. I was one of the elders at Browns Plains church.
@@KenLegg Hey Ken, I just realized that you have misquoted what i said. I did not say there are two different gospels today, as in one for Israel and a different one for the Gentiles. The gospel of repent and be water baptized for the forgiveness of sins because the kingdom of God draws near has been postponed, as you know. Israel rejected ( THEIR ) gospel. The only way to be saved today is by the gospel of GRACE that Christ gave to Paul, 1 COR 15: 1-4 Ken, trying to mix law and Grace is not the gospel of today. Why do you insist in trying to make the two programs into one doctrine ? that is why most christian's are confused today because most churches are doing just that. John is not the apostle to the ONE NEW MAN IN CHRIST, Paul is. Please take the time to re-examine this subject. your brother in Christ.
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Ken, those saved today, under Paul's gospel of Grace, given to him by Jesus, are not called sheep. We are called Ambassadors and are members of the body of Christ. God has a different program for messianic christian's saved prior to Paul's Gospel of Grace. There is the Church in the wilderness = Mosaic church. the Church saved by believing in Christ as the long awaited Messiah = Messianic church. ( saved when Jesus came the first time ) This salvation has been postponed because of National Israel's rejection of their King and Kingdom offer when Jesus came the first time. It will be reinstated when they will cry out, blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. TODAY, we have The Body of Christ Church = saved by Grace. National Israel inherit the Kingdom on earth = Millennial Kingdom. They rule and reign on earth. We, as members of the body of Christ, rule and reign in heaven. Our promises are heavenly.
@@stevegoode1504 hey Steve. It appears that you and Joy misunderstand a very basic truth. The gospel is not something to argue with Christians about. It is the good news to be preached to the unsaved. I hope you are winning more souls than arguments.
And for the record I totally disagree with your doctrine. There is only one gospel for Jew and Gentile. I have heard and studied your doctrine in the past and am convinced it is not only erroneous but designed to bring confusion and division into the body of Christ. I will not enter into discussion with you about it because I will not be drawn away from what God has called me to. I wish you both well. ruclips.net/video/CekG1NuV300/видео.htmlsi=Aol-cIryG9PN3pg8
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@@KenLegg Hi Ken, thank you for at least responding. Who is the person who is arguing ? just letting you know that this is not my doctrine, it is the doctrine that Christ gave to His apostle Paul, to the Gentiles. am puzzled why you reject it. Was hoping that you would have a heart for the truth of God's word. Sadly, what i have found recently, is rightly dividing the Word of God 2TIM 2 :15 is to bigger price to pay for most pastors. As they have to much to lose. I pray that you would take the time to revisit this subject. I was one of the elders at Browns Plains church.
@@KenLegg Hey Ken, I just realized that you have misquoted what i said. I did not say there are two different gospels today, as in one for Israel and a different one for the Gentiles. The gospel of repent and be water baptized for the forgiveness of sins because the kingdom of God draws near has been postponed, as you know. Israel rejected ( THEIR ) gospel. The only way to be saved today is by the gospel of GRACE that Christ gave to Paul, 1 COR 15: 1-4 Ken, trying to mix law and Grace is not the gospel of today. Why do you insist in trying to make the two programs into one doctrine ? that is why most christian's are confused today because most churches are doing just that. John is not the apostle to the ONE NEW MAN IN CHRIST, Paul is. Please take the time to re-examine this subject. your brother in Christ.