Everybody has their struggles but not having "big grand dreams" and wanting "happiness" is actually a different perspective on life that doesn't come from depression necessarily. The guys have mentioned many times that this "live in the moment" and "cherish yourself and your happiness" is one of the things they've learned from Jin. He is known for being very appreciative of both himself and people around him. It's just who he is which is quite charming and we could all learn from
Yeah I also think we should cherish every moment in our life and take it day by day we shouldn't stress too much about tomorrow set small goals and achieve them step by step this important thing I have learned from BTS these guys are our inspiration each one of them is amazing we r proud to stan them
Personally, I feel like Jin just found the best way to live life early (?) I'm not sure if it makes sense, but it's something that we often hear from older, wiser, and just people who've gone through a long life and realized that they want happiness for themselves and the people around them. Like, the realization we go through of "I really want to be the happiest I can be in my situation" but a lot of people get stuck at the moment of the "how" because there are so many reasons to NOT be happy (everything's expensive, the society's expectations and toxicity, suffering all over the world) and we go through a long (or short) period in life where we can't figure out how to be happy or satisfied with what we have and find the way to make everything better (or the best) for ourselves. I feel like Jin is just a very self-aware person and I really admire that about him.
Jin being the oldest brother really has such an influence over the the group. If you listen to their interviews and how they talk about each other, their Jin hyung was always a constant pick me upper for them. RM sometimes was too hard on himself and being with Jin has taught him to not be too hard on himself as the leader of the group.
25:09 "they're screwing with them" Nope. You'd be surprised to know that bighit actually gave away free food, snacks and drinks to every army that was out there waiting! They did it again during one of their more recent comeback shows as well. Every time a reactor makes a comment like "no way that would happen" I always have a big smile on my face because most of the times they do make it happen! 😅
I don’t think Jin is depressed right now, yes he has stated that he has been depressed before but Jin’s mentality really is “I want to be happy” not that he doesn’t have dreams or aspirations but as a part of BTS they deal with so much pressure and he doesn’t want to live ambitiously and seriously all the time but to enjoy life!!! That is the vibe that Jin give us, He has helped the members see life this way too
I mean, who doesn't get depressed sometimes? It's the guman condition. I'd be more concerned about someone if they never got depressed. It's how you handle it that matters.
BTS also talk with mental health professionals regularly. Their approach to mental is...we go take care of our bodies regularly and go for checkups. Mental health is the same and it should be maintained and discussed openly.
I like all member's voices. Jimin's high notes always gets me every time he sings. V's soulful voice makes me feel the song and JK's tone is so soothing. JK and V had been my bias at one point before Suga. But Jin's voice is my favorite and I love his solo songs so much. He might be my bias among the vocalists.
He said that he often get depressed, but that was back in 2017 and feeling down sometimes doesn't mean having 'depression'. Today, the members suffered a lot during the Covid-19 crisis however they've come to a point in their life where they feel better about themselves and some of them even said that they are actually happy. I'm waiting diligently on the next comeback, they will probably share of all this with us not to mention that they discovered many new hobbies and passions during theses two years and they said that they want to incorporate them into their music. Ellen have a tendency to ask stupid questions, and Americans interviewers always ask about everything but the music to BTS, which has a certain racist aspect to it. In South Korea it's very frowned upon to date fans, it's really not a thing, so here Ellen didn't even bothered to informed herself about their culture and lead the interview like they were American celebrities with the same culture. That's why Tae put a stop to it immediately by saying no firmly. Also, if you wish to know, RM and V have confirmed that their mixtapes will be released this year, it's will be the third for Joon and the first for Tae. J-Hope and JK are also apparently working on their mixtapes but no date right now. And Jimin have an OST that will be dropping this April most likely. Also, know that you can watch online from your house BTS next concert, I've been doing the same since I live in Europe, and one day of the concerts will be broadcasted online (nearly 2-3h), you can buy it on weverse shop.
For Jin it was more like he sometimes felt lacking besides the other members that already had some kinda training or were already good at singing or dancing... And in Awake he talks about this, the 6 flower petals that he clutches tightly he wants to fly/float in the air like those petals... anyways Army knows Jin is super talented and he can get better at anything he sets his sights on. He is super hardworking to learn to be not only a singer but a performer, he was always trying to catch up, and it's admirable how he did.
His goal to always be happy doesn't mean he isn't happy in the moment. He did go through some difficult times but I think when he mentions that goal it means that every decision he makes will be towards what makes him happy whether now or sometime in the future. I think it's a great goal to have. It really shows his values and the type of person he is. And it also solidifies that he's happy being in bangtan
In early 2018, they were overwhelmed by how much they have grown and I think it burdened them (?said by Jin in MAMA 2018 speech ) and had considered disbandment. I'm SO glad that they got themselves together and still continued this path with us.
I just hope that seokjin really knows how important is as well as the other members and how loved he is for so much people and he is an amazyng singer, dancer, friend and person
i always get goosebumps on Jin's solo stages like Epiphany and Awake.. 2 of my fave Jin solo songs... i am an ot7 but out of all BTS members Jin is closer to my personality although Hobi is my bias.
the first time I ever got full-body goosebumps in my life was when I heard Jin perform AWAKE live in concert the first time....now his solo songs just always give me goosebumps...(except Moon)..You really could tell a huge improvement in his live performances from the start of the tour until when the tour ended....it was amazing...
Read the lyrics to V’s Blue & Grey. He wrote it during a period when he was depressed. He wrote it in English and was going to put it on his mixtape but then the members heard it and wanted it for the album BE so he rewrote it in Korean and had to change the lyrics a little bit but you will still get the same idea. Very descriptive poetic way of the portrayal of depression. Was very critically praised.
everytime I see this era, I can’t hold my tears, proud is really an understatement ! The members were actually crushed with pressure in 2018, but their success hasn’t stopped ever since.. their story is just unbelievable, what a journey, and so many years to go
Aw, what a coincidence that your RJ got injured when his dad Jin also got minor surgery on his finger from a non work related injury. I hope they both recover fast
yes 2020 might have been the year that Jin thru letter opened his depression and thru his song Abyss. I am just glad he is out of that stage.at least for now. I really pray that he is truly happy these days.
I've been an ARMY for while but I'm lazy and never got to watch Rise of Bangtan by myself.. so I'm in this journey with you... thank you for your appreciation and wonderful inputs :)
Jin thought is his past..even for all BTS...when watching these video...it's then at that point of time... they have reached time.. where even reaching peak..they were anxious and afraid of success...but now I think .all of them state of mind..has changes..they have acknowledge their position..now I think that I have moved on through all of this stage . beautiful part of this series..it's journey of their emotion..along with their career
Jin, main goal to be happy and as you watch more and learn more about him, you will see he has climbed out of the darkness and is good now. He had a lack of confidence, He gave a small speech to his parents and ARMY that will tell you more.
I remember watching this live for my little sister bc she was a fan before I was, and i was super impressed and surprised so I can’t imagine the celebrities being there all jungshook
"I think they had a huge chunk to do with kpop becoming a more normal thing in America..." ☝️Yes, this. Idk if newer kpop fans know abt how difficult it was for a US fan to support a fav kpop grp before BTS forced the western industry to open its doors wider to actually expand investment in kpop. Before BTS, unless you had access to a niche store, online purchasing overseas (which was super, ridiculously expensive bc of shipping cost) was essentially the only way for international fana to get products from your fav grp. And in particular, album-buying was one of the few tangible ways for US fans to support their fav Korean artist at all for things related to charting or music awards. None of the big chain stores carried kpop albums or any kpop merch. And after Bighit partnered with US suppliers, for awhile, I think most retail stores _only_ carried BTS merch. Nowadays, there's more variety of kpop grps' merch in stores (and unfortunately, a lot of unofficial/non-collab merch too, so please always check before purchasing).
thank you for appreciating BANG PD again. trully respectable man and JIN yeah he has a personality that other members strive to have. i enyy him also for being positive and optimistic despite what they are facing
There's a RUclips video that explains all of JK tatts and meanings. Btw the three black lines come from the Korean Flag symbol for Heaven or benevolence as well. Also Jimin just got a couple of new tattoos himself one behind his ear ( youth or growth) and a crescent moon on the back of his neck. He has already has a few on the side of his body.
Their next concert IS in Vegas! And I will be there on the 9th!! The whole town is going IN for ARMY! BTS themed rooms in several hotels, BTS themed meals, Pop ups, and The Bellagio's famous musical water fountain will play all BTS songs! And those are just the things I know about! I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT!!! Any other ARMY'S going?! Borahae!💜🤟
I genuinely believe he suffers from depression on and off, and uses humor to deflect 🥺 I think he is always looking for how to make others happy, members, Army and I would like him to be a little selfish for him and seek his happiness too
I also experience that in a lot of BTS songs as an army. I listened to some first time and feel like “meh” or not so sure if i liked it. After few tries and live version oh it’s on repeat. Ex 21st century girls, Run, Dimple, Dis-ease
i cant with suga being the hearbreaker. after all, in all the marriage proposals they get every single time, only he was the one who said to bring the documents to him so he could sign it. and then that exploded to the current talk of armys commenting "marry me, suga" or "min yoongi, marry me" in their live streams. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Its true about them thinking they are famous. Look at the most recent BTS Episode AMA 2022. Look at the Car scenes and the acceptance speech for Artist of the Year. They still practice their english all the way to the red carpet.
I’m so sad I miss your live streams these days …I’ve been here since you first found BTS…but work has gone nuts so …life, you know…but I always watch your replays. See you on Twitch for the reaction!!! 💜
I had heard that Bang PD worked for a bigger company but left to set up his own agency because he disagreed with how trainees were treated. He is a man of his convictions. I maybe wrong and ARMYs will correct me if I’m wrong, but Big Hit was one of the few if not the only companies who did not lay the cost of training on the trainees.
Wings is no doubt my fvrt album no album can really ever take it's place I enjoyed MOTS 7 as well and all the other albums are also great but I just can't get over BS&T and Stigma is my fvrt as well 🙂🙂
Korea is predominantly Buddhist. Buddhists believe in reincarnation. If you watch Korean dramas or even Chinese dramas, reincarnation is a theme that you will see repeatedly.
I totally get where you are coming from with talking about depression etc. I do think Jin suffers from imposter syndrome. However….just to clarify because I hear a lot of people make this mistake…… Robin Williams didn’t end his life because of depression. The man had a degenerative and fatal brain disease. He and his family knew it for years and he told them multiple times he didn’t want to be a burden to them or for him or them to suffer through that and remember him at the end as not himself. So he lived fiercely with the time he had left, and when he started to feel the progression of the disease was robbing him of himself, he chose his own exit. His wife said that in retrospect she realized he had been saying goodbye for a while and then planned the perfect last day for them together before he chose his own exit. A person with a horrible, degenerative and fatal disease who chooses death on their own terms is not at all the same as suicide due to depression.
ı love you but pls stop the video when you want to focus on the chat. its disappointing when i watch the video and then look up to see your reaction to a poignant sub to see you are not even looking at it
Everybody has their struggles but not having "big grand dreams" and wanting "happiness" is actually a different perspective on life that doesn't come from depression necessarily. The guys have mentioned many times that this "live in the moment" and "cherish yourself and your happiness" is one of the things they've learned from Jin. He is known for being very appreciative of both himself and people around him. It's just who he is which is quite charming and we could all learn from
Yeah I also think we should cherish every moment in our life and take it day by day we shouldn't stress too much about tomorrow set small goals and achieve them step by step this important thing I have learned from BTS these guys are our inspiration each one of them is amazing we r proud to stan them
Personally, I feel like Jin just found the best way to live life early (?) I'm not sure if it makes sense, but it's something that we often hear from older, wiser, and just people who've gone through a long life and realized that they want happiness for themselves and the people around them. Like, the realization we go through of "I really want to be the happiest I can be in my situation" but a lot of people get stuck at the moment of the "how" because there are so many reasons to NOT be happy (everything's expensive, the society's expectations and toxicity, suffering all over the world) and we go through a long (or short) period in life where we can't figure out how to be happy or satisfied with what we have and find the way to make everything better (or the best) for ourselves. I feel like Jin is just a very self-aware person and I really admire that about him.
Jin being the oldest brother really has such an influence over the the group. If you listen to their interviews and how they talk about each other, their Jin hyung was always a constant pick me upper for them. RM sometimes was too hard on himself and being with Jin has taught him to not be too hard on himself as the leader of the group.
25:09 "they're screwing with them" Nope. You'd be surprised to know that bighit actually gave away free food, snacks and drinks to every army that was out there waiting! They did it again during one of their more recent comeback shows as well. Every time a reactor makes a comment like "no way that would happen" I always have a big smile on my face because most of the times they do make it happen! 😅
I don’t think Jin is depressed right now, yes he has stated that he has been depressed before but Jin’s mentality really is “I want to be happy” not that he doesn’t have dreams or aspirations but as a part of BTS they deal with so much pressure and he doesn’t want to live ambitiously and seriously all the time but to enjoy life!!! That is the vibe that Jin give us, He has helped the members see life this way too
I mean, who doesn't get depressed sometimes? It's the guman condition. I'd be more concerned about someone if they never got depressed.
It's how you handle it that matters.
BTS also talk with mental health professionals regularly. Their approach to mental is...we go take care of our bodies regularly and go for checkups. Mental health is the same and it should be maintained and discussed openly.
I like all member's voices. Jimin's high notes always gets me every time he sings. V's soulful voice makes me feel the song and JK's tone is so soothing. JK and V had been my bias at one point before Suga. But Jin's voice is my favorite and I love his solo songs so much. He might be my bias among the vocalists.
He said that he often get depressed, but that was back in 2017 and feeling down sometimes doesn't mean having 'depression'.
Today, the members suffered a lot during the Covid-19 crisis however they've come to a point in their life where they feel better about themselves and some of them even said that they are actually happy.
I'm waiting diligently on the next comeback, they will probably share of all this with us not to mention that they discovered many new hobbies and passions during theses two years and they said that they want to incorporate them into their music.
Ellen have a tendency to ask stupid questions, and Americans interviewers always ask about everything but the music to BTS, which has a certain racist aspect to it.
In South Korea it's very frowned upon to date fans, it's really not a thing, so here Ellen didn't even bothered to informed herself about their culture and lead the interview like they were American celebrities with the same culture.
That's why Tae put a stop to it immediately by saying no firmly.
Also, if you wish to know, RM and V have confirmed that their mixtapes will be released this year, it's will be the third for Joon and the first for Tae.
J-Hope and JK are also apparently working on their mixtapes but no date right now.
And Jimin have an OST that will be dropping this April most likely.
Also, know that you can watch online from your house BTS next concert, I've been doing the same since I live in Europe, and one day of the concerts will be broadcasted online (nearly 2-3h), you can buy it on weverse shop.
For Jin it was more like he sometimes felt lacking besides the other members that already had some kinda training or were already good at singing or dancing... And in Awake he talks about this, the 6 flower petals that he clutches tightly he wants to fly/float in the air like those petals... anyways Army knows Jin is super talented and he can get better at anything he sets his sights on. He is super hardworking to learn to be not only a singer but a performer, he was always trying to catch up, and it's admirable how he did.
His goal to always be happy doesn't mean he isn't happy in the moment. He did go through some difficult times but I think when he mentions that goal it means that every decision he makes will be towards what makes him happy whether now or sometime in the future. I think it's a great goal to have. It really shows his values and the type of person he is. And it also solidifies that he's happy being in bangtan
Jin, now I'm in tears. All the 6 members love their eldest brother so much.
In early 2018, they were overwhelmed by how much they have grown and I think it burdened them (?said by Jin in MAMA 2018 speech ) and had considered disbandment. I'm SO glad that they got themselves together and still continued this path with us.
I just hope that seokjin really knows how important is as well as the other members and how loved he is for so much people and he is an amazyng singer, dancer, friend and person
i always get goosebumps on Jin's solo stages like Epiphany and Awake.. 2 of my fave Jin solo songs... i am an ot7 but out of all BTS members Jin is closer to my personality although Hobi is my bias.
Suga and Jin are closest to my personality
the first time I ever got full-body goosebumps in my life was when I heard Jin perform AWAKE live in concert the first time....now his solo songs just always give me goosebumps...(except Moon)..You really could tell a huge improvement in his live performances from the start of the tour until when the tour ended....it was amazing...
Seeing some of Jin’s thoughts and struggles with Awake playing behind it really hits hard and puts that song in a whole new light.💜💜
Read the lyrics to V’s Blue & Grey. He wrote it during a period when he was depressed. He wrote it in English and was going to put it on his mixtape but then the members heard it and wanted it for the album BE so he rewrote it in Korean and had to change the lyrics a little bit but you will still get the same idea. Very descriptive poetic way of the portrayal of depression. Was very critically praised.
I heard that Yoongi had to change the lyrics (or at least his lyrics) because they were a little too dark…
everytime I see this era, I can’t hold my tears, proud is really an understatement ! The members were actually crushed with pressure in 2018, but their success hasn’t stopped ever since.. their story is just unbelievable, what a journey, and so many years to go
Aw, what a coincidence that your RJ got injured when his dad Jin also got minor surgery on his finger from a non work related injury. I hope they both recover fast
yes 2020 might have been the year that Jin thru letter opened his depression and thru his song Abyss. I am just glad he is out of that stage.at least for now. I really pray that he is truly happy these days.
i really like jimin's voice, especially sleeping with my son he is always calm listening to jimin serendipity songs and jimin promise songs
I've been an ARMY for while but I'm lazy and never got to watch Rise of Bangtan by myself.. so I'm in this journey with you... thank you for your appreciation and wonderful inputs :)
Same tbh
I always love your heartfelt reactions. I also absolutely loved the intro song with the acustic! So beautiful!!
I'm thankful to the ARMYs that were there to see them live during the AMAs. They really came through with the fanchants and the support for BTS
Love Yourself Her was my first BTS comeback ever and I lost my mind! Seeing them on my TV just a few months later was ICONIC.
Jin thought is his past..even for all BTS...when watching these video...it's then at that point of time... they have reached time.. where even reaching peak..they were anxious and afraid of success...but now I think
.all of them state of mind..has changes..they have acknowledge their position..now I think that I have moved on through all of this stage
. beautiful part of this series..it's journey of their emotion..along with their career
Jin, main goal to be happy and as you watch more and learn more about him, you will see he has climbed out of the darkness and is good now. He had a lack of confidence, He gave a small speech to his parents and ARMY that will tell you more.
I remember watching this live for my little sister bc she was a fan before I was, and i was super impressed and surprised so I can’t imagine the celebrities being there all jungshook
"I think they had a huge chunk to do with kpop becoming a more normal thing in America..."
☝️Yes, this. Idk if newer kpop fans know abt how difficult it was for a US fan to support a fav kpop grp before BTS forced the western industry to open its doors wider to actually expand investment in kpop.
Before BTS, unless you had access to a niche store, online purchasing overseas (which was super, ridiculously expensive bc of shipping cost) was essentially the only way for international fana to get products from your fav grp. And in particular, album-buying was one of the few tangible ways for US fans to support their fav Korean artist at all for things related to charting or music awards.
None of the big chain stores carried kpop albums or any kpop merch. And after Bighit partnered with US suppliers, for awhile, I think most retail stores _only_ carried BTS merch.
Nowadays, there's more variety of kpop grps' merch in stores (and unfortunately, a lot of unofficial/non-collab merch too, so please always check before purchasing).
thank you for appreciating BANG PD again. trully respectable man and JIN yeah he has a personality that other members strive to have. i enyy him also for being positive and optimistic despite what they are facing
There's a RUclips video that explains all of JK tatts and meanings. Btw the three black lines come from the Korean Flag symbol for Heaven or benevolence as well. Also Jimin just got a couple of new tattoos himself one behind his ear ( youth or growth) and a crescent moon on the back of his neck. He has already has a few on the side of his body.
Their next concert IS in Vegas! And I will be there on the 9th!! The whole town is going IN for ARMY! BTS themed rooms in several hotels, BTS themed meals, Pop ups, and The Bellagio's famous musical water fountain will play all BTS songs! And those are just the things I know about! I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT!!!
Any other ARMY'S going?!
Borahae!💜🤟
Just saw the article that said Her is charting in billboard top 40 albums again today. Coincidence that you just reviewed it this week 🤔 😀
I genuinely believe he suffers from depression on and off, and uses humor to deflect 🥺
I think he is always looking for how to make others happy, members, Army and I would like him to be a little selfish for him and seek his happiness too
kpop fans might be pissed to what im going to say right now but its just a fact though so im gonna say it.. BTS PAVED THE WAY FOR KPOP. thats that.
I really enjoy this channel. Thank you, Jim. God bless! 😘💜
I also experience that in a lot of BTS songs as an army. I listened to some first time and feel like “meh” or not so sure if i liked it. After few tries and live version oh it’s on repeat. Ex 21st century girls, Run, Dimple, Dis-ease
I love the opening song.
BANG PD is really like a father of BTS. BTS said themselves.
Thank you , enjoy to listening your thoughts
i cant with suga being the hearbreaker. after all, in all the marriage proposals they get every single time, only he was the one who said to bring the documents to him so he could sign it. and then that exploded to the current talk of armys commenting "marry me, suga" or "min yoongi, marry me" in their live streams. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Its true about them thinking they are famous. Look at the most recent BTS Episode AMA 2022. Look at the Car scenes and the acceptance speech for Artist of the Year. They still practice their english all the way to the red carpet.
I’m so sad I miss your live streams these days …I’ve been here since you first found BTS…but work has gone nuts so …life, you know…but I always watch your replays. See you on Twitch for the reaction!!! 💜
I love BTS so much💜💜💜💜
I think it might have been Namjoon that said, "we want to make music where as the more you listen the more you like it.", someone correct me...
I had heard that Bang PD worked for a bigger company but left to set up his own agency because he disagreed with how trainees were treated. He is a man of his convictions. I maybe wrong and ARMYs will correct me if I’m wrong, but Big Hit was one of the few if not the only companies who did not lay the cost of training on the trainees.
It's jungkook's dog the doberman the other 2 are his brother's
I can't believe you've been listening & reacting to BTS for this long without having heard "DNA!" LOL...HOW? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well you are gonna LOVE IT!💜
Wings is no doubt my fvrt album no album can really ever take it's place I enjoyed MOTS 7 as well and all the other albums are also great but I just can't get over BS&T and Stigma is my fvrt as well 🙂🙂
Korea is predominantly Buddhist. Buddhists believe in reincarnation. If you watch Korean dramas or even Chinese dramas, reincarnation is a theme that you will see repeatedly.
Does Jim have watched the butter performance the tannies did at the grammys?
JK has gotten a few of his tatoos in color now.
I totally get where you are coming from with talking about depression etc. I do think Jin suffers from imposter syndrome.
However….just to clarify because I hear a lot of people make this mistake……
Robin Williams didn’t end his life because of depression. The man had a degenerative and fatal brain disease. He and his family knew it for years and he told them multiple times he didn’t want to be a burden to them or for him or them to suffer through that and remember him at the end as not himself. So he lived fiercely with the time he had left, and when he started to feel the progression of the disease was robbing him of himself, he chose his own exit. His wife said that in retrospect she realized he had been saying goodbye for a while and then planned the perfect last day for them together before he chose his own exit. A person with a horrible, degenerative and fatal disease who chooses death on their own terms is not at all the same as suicide due to depression.
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Are you gonna post the album reaction on Patreon?
yes
@@JimGames I was wondering if the next album topped Wings for you, just curious? (Sorry I can’t afford Pateron but I wish I could)
@@amberpearce710, it's too early to tell. LY has been on non stop re play since the reaction lol
Please serendipity live performance
ı love you but pls stop the video when you want to focus on the chat. its disappointing when i watch the video and then look up to see your reaction to a poignant sub to see you are not even looking at it
He didn't miss any crucial info
@@EvieKng just my opinion