The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
@@Kminek246 you could even go as far as the batches 1 and 2 of the Gripen A, those still didn't have IRIS-T missiles and even if they carried AMRAAMs 99% of the time, they were also cleared to carry Rb71s. I don't think it would be better than a Mig-29 or F-16 ADF
And yeah, my guess is that when we get AMRAAMs the JA37D will receive them and get uptiered while the C will get the Rb74 and also get a smaller uptier
I've had the same experience with fast matches but at the 9.7-10.7 mark. The hoards of A10s and A6Es either destroy everything or they get wiped out within 5 minutes. The only time games are prolonged are when people are running in space where they can't reach with their 9Ls.
While this was happening in the background, I was flying my F-5C, got a major uptier and managed to down a Tornado and down an A-10 with my guns whilst missing my left wing (A-10 ripped it off with the 30mm). I landed to fix my plane and got back into the air to go against an AV-8 which was downed by someone else and then the match just immediately ended there.
I used to love the ja37C, sadly the skyflash isnt usable anymore because the usually phenomenal radar of the Viggen got destroyed by Gaijin and now loves going after chaff, even PD mode. But I think now the ja37d with aim 9Ls seems to be great. Only weakness actually is the acceleration. It out turns almost everything and rthe top speed is still great, too.
Well you see the D in it current state is what JA37C was. the only difference between C and D was that D had cockpit changed, electronic updated and could carry Amraams. They could give this load out to JA37C, move it to 11.3 and for 11.7 could give us a JAS39A Gripen limited to bombs and aim-9L. boom, much better
After passing props in this game and making it past 9.0, I can say that I forgot how to dogfight because the missiles do it for you. I try to go back to props every now and then, but find myself getting absolutely slapped out of the sky because of a stupid mistake that the opponent actually capitalizes.
the games i'm playing at 4.7 have been the same like once the players from each player make contact with one another, one team just gets shat on and loses in minutes
hey, joob i know you probably wont read this but, could you make a video on the mirage 2000 in current meda since i want to know your opinion on how it stands in current meda against f16s and mig 29s.
Hey Joob, found your channel recently and I’m loving all the content you’ve been putting out, not sure if you’ll even see this but if you do would you consider making a video on the F2H Banshee??
Thats intentionally do you think its a coincidence that they have added the finnish tree and then they implemented the update with a new premium plane that gives you the ability to have a research efficiency from rank 1 - 8 :D
yeah, top tier is basically decided by who has more missiles instead of gun fights, yes its realistic but its really boring when 1 guy lobes 6 missiles at you and basically kills 1/4 of the team of even half
I feel the skill of top tier isn't handling the plane like you do in props it is how you handle your offensive and defensive systems, and it seems so dull because well most players are
Day 52 of asking to play the yak4 at 2.0 Start by a dive directly at q base that has another base clise to it ( 2 bases beside each other) 4 bombs for each Go straight to your base killing some ai on the way with your 7.62 Some planes will come on your back going in a straigh line with minimal evading is recommended and try to hit their engines with ur turret since they have weak engines a damaged one will lead them to crash i return to the airfield with 2 bases with 4 to 5 ai kills and 1 or 2 planes after taking off i go for bases if left but if not i will focus on ground targets cuz aa is the bain of this plane so bombing airfields is not recommended Bonus:do not forget to have smoke always on to piss the enemies 🤣
Personally I'm still disappointed by this addition. JA37C can carry exact the same load out. Aim-9L and flares. They could have give it to JA37C and move it to 11.3 and for a new rank 8 jet they could have added JAS39A Gripen (or pre-series) and limit it to bombs and Rb74 (aim-9L). That would be much better then just another copy and paste.
Yo join love your content but, you know that top tier is gonna be more boring the higher the tier if you want intense dogfighting do 4.0 or 4.5 so you can dodge the Ju-288 spam but still have fun. top tier is just missile missile game over.
your not wrong top tier games go faster now max 10min match's, on another note is anybody else getting tk'd by mig23ml's constantly when there on your team
i honestly dont know why its 11.7... it can't dogfight with any of the other 11.7s, it doesnt have the weapons of other 11.7s(as in no good radar missiles), it is not as fast as other 11.7s so why the fuck is it 11.7?
Bro what are you talking about? Have u ever play this jet yet? Yes the F16 and mig29 have better engine but that doesnt mean it better at dogfight. Because of bleeding speed so fast on Viggen will let you out 2 turn of these top tier jet. In long run Viggen will loose yes, but you can just turn and missile them or run away 🤷♂️
The fact that you managed to fit in pretty much 3 matches in under 10 minutes means yes, they are going fast
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
Turns out anything with that many countermeasures and missiles is pretty ok
There's a reason dogfights don't happen IRL, and it's because they don't have to. You just need some good missiles and either speed or stealth.
@@Majima_Nowhere exactly, and that's why the F-35 indeed DOESN'T suck
@@rudolfthecat1176 i prefer experts opinions, although you have some right since (if) you pay with your taxes
Look at the A6-E or A10/Su25 they are just missile carriers
i said it on the forums like 2 years ago that flares make a plane relevant despite its performance might be below optimal and they laughed at me.
The JA37D got all the stuff the JA37C should have, the only difference between them in real life was a changed cockpit, electronic updates and AMRAAMs
Imagine if Gaijin lazy ass would give JA37C the prepper load out, move it to 11.3 and give us JAS39A Gripen (pre-series) limited to bombs and Rb74.
@@Kminek246 you could even go as far as the batches 1 and 2 of the Gripen A, those still didn't have IRIS-T missiles and even if they carried AMRAAMs 99% of the time, they were also cleared to carry Rb71s. I don't think it would be better than a Mig-29 or F-16 ADF
And yeah, my guess is that when we get AMRAAMs the JA37D will receive them and get uptiered while the C will get the Rb74 and also get a smaller uptier
Me who has up to t3 on every nation: yeah i can relate to this missile stuff.
good god that flare count, I'd say that and the 6 9L's is hella worth the .7 in crease.
Also Fish
I've had the same experience with fast matches but at the 9.7-10.7 mark. The hoards of A10s and A6Es either destroy everything or they get wiped out within 5 minutes. The only time games are prolonged are when people are running in space where they can't reach with their 9Ls.
While this was happening in the background, I was flying my F-5C, got a major uptier and managed to down a Tornado and down an A-10 with my guns whilst missing my left wing (A-10 ripped it off with the 30mm). I landed to fix my plane and got back into the air to go against an AV-8 which was downed by someone else and then the match just immediately ended there.
gotta love the f5’s busted damage model
@@shminkydinky321it really isn’t. It’s basically a cardboard plane.
I used to love the ja37C, sadly the skyflash isnt usable anymore because the usually phenomenal radar of the Viggen got destroyed by Gaijin and now loves going after chaff, even PD mode. But I think now the ja37d with aim 9Ls seems to be great. Only weakness actually is the acceleration. It out turns almost everything and rthe top speed is still great, too.
Bro I've been here from 2k subs congrats on the 20k this growth is insane for warthunder
An actually decent viggen... Sad! I might actually play it when it gets AMRAAM
Well you see the D in it current state is what JA37C was. the only difference between C and D was that D had cockpit changed, electronic updated and could carry Amraams. They could give this load out to JA37C, move it to 11.3 and for 11.7 could give us a JAS39A Gripen limited to bombs and aim-9L. boom, much better
Oh no. Now there is another Viggen for Swedish mains to say it’s the best aircraft in game
Edit: no it will never be top 5
Top 5 I'd say.
just waiting for the day the gripen is added, then best plane in the game might be a possibility
even this aint top 5.
This is just a JA 37C.
Once it gets aim-120s then it will be pretty good.
your outro is BEAUTIFUL !
"It's not the Plane, It's the Pilot"
- Wise man
Great Vid! Always find them helpful
Best outro ive ever seen
The ja37c could get everything the D variant has except the amraams
That outro song SLAPS
After passing props in this game and making it past 9.0, I can say that I forgot how to dogfight because the missiles do it for you. I try to go back to props every now and then, but find myself getting absolutely slapped out of the sky because of a stupid mistake that the opponent actually capitalizes.
Love that Outro!
Short answer, no. Long answer....nah still no. No play till Gripen.
the games i'm playing at 4.7 have been the same like once the players from each player make contact with one another, one team just gets shat on and loses in minutes
fish!
Viggen number 1
Damn that thing is strong
im new to the channel but goddamn is this man entertaining to watch
Backwards engine, SR-71 intercepting boi
Lol only because the sr71 had an engine failure
@@cristobalalvarez5491 yes but in a training exercise a viggen got radar lock on a black bird, watch Dark Sky’s video on it it’s good
@@cristobalalvarez5491they also protected it and flew back into friendly airspace
Soon™ we will have the AMRAAM for it
hey, joob i know you probably wont read this but, could you make a video on the mirage 2000 in current meda since i want to know your opinion on how it stands in current meda against f16s and mig 29s.
Early! Also can you make a video about turn fighting? I’m really struggling with my Japanese planes
Bro had performance inhancing drugs with how twitchy he is
i mean holy shit the camera is going all over the place it's kinda impressive.
Have you ever watched mw2 games?
Hey Joob, found your channel recently and I’m loving all the content you’ve been putting out, not sure if you’ll even see this but if you do would you consider making a video on the F2H Banshee??
Not just you, ground forces all the time....
The fact you need to research ENTIRE finnish tech tree to get to rank 8 is insane
Thats intentionally do you think its a coincidence that they have added the finnish tree and then they implemented the update with a new premium plane that gives you the ability to have a research efficiency from rank 1 - 8 :D
I love ur outro song bro
6:49 if that was a aim9L you would be dead
No flare asmr🥺xD
What are your thoughts on the MiG-21 "Lazur-M"? I'm still debating if it's worth to buy.
get the f4j or the mig 23ml instead
ngl the aim9L is prolly gonna get harder to use when more ppl learn to turn their burners off and turn when they get a rear aspect aim9L
what to you think about the mig 21 sps-k?
Can you play the MiG23-MLA?
Kind of sounds like an asu57 gun when you start your burst
You slap the f16 in a dogfight
Only in a one circle fight tho and at mid-high speeds but yea you technically can beat the f16
yeah, top tier is basically decided by who has more missiles instead of gun fights, yes its realistic but its really boring when 1 guy lobes 6 missiles at you and basically kills 1/4 of the team of even half
I need that mig 23 ml video
I feel the skill of top tier isn't handling the plane like you do in props it is how you handle your offensive and defensive systems, and it seems so dull because well most players are
Day 52 of asking to play the yak4 at 2.0
Start by a dive directly at q base that has another base clise to it ( 2 bases beside each other) 4 bombs for each
Go straight to your base killing some ai on the way with your 7.62
Some planes will come on your back going in a straigh line with minimal evading is recommended and try to hit their engines with ur turret since they have weak engines a damaged one will lead them to crash i return to the airfield with 2 bases with 4 to 5 ai kills and 1 or 2 planes after taking off i go for bases if left but if not i will focus on ground targets cuz aa is the bain of this plane so bombing airfields is not recommended
Bonus:do not forget to have smoke always on to piss the enemies 🤣
can you fly out the yak 38m
Personally I'm still disappointed by this addition. JA37C can carry exact the same load out. Aim-9L and flares. They could have give it to JA37C and move it to 11.3 and for a new rank 8 jet they could have added JAS39A Gripen (or pre-series) and limit it to bombs and Rb74 (aim-9L). That would be much better then just another copy and paste.
Everyone talk about lack of skill in red team with MiG-23ML player's, but not about r-60m's that compare to 9L completely dog shit
many clowns say they are equal for some reason
You could put a 9L on a P-51 and it would be viable at 10.0
that's pretty much what the a10 is
@@jaek__ besides the gau-8 and acceleration. A-10 has the best gun in the game. I snipe with the gau enough to love it
@@dondelchulia3189 i prefer the mig 27 and mig 29 gun far more than the GAU 8 but that might be mostly because of the platforms they are fired from
“_The_Ghost_ofKyiv_” 😂
Yo join love your content but, you know that top tier is gonna be more boring the higher the tier if you want intense dogfighting do 4.0 or 4.5 so you can dodge the Ju-288 spam but still have fun. top tier is just missile missile game over.
Yeah, when one of the teams is 90% MiG-23ML and J-7D, matches do tend to be very one-sided. Who knew.
your not wrong top tier games go faster now max 10min match's, on another note is anybody else getting tk'd by mig23ml's constantly when there on your team
hello
song name?
bruh
wow u play war thunder like a fps game
Bro
Hi
Not AIM 9L's but Rb 74's
Wich are aim 9L’s
Tomato tomato
RB 74 🤬😡😠🤬
its a better aim9l have much better flare resistence in my experience
i honestly dont know why its 11.7...
it can't dogfight with any of the other 11.7s, it doesnt have the weapons of other 11.7s(as in no good radar missiles), it is not as fast as other 11.7s so why the fuck is it 11.7?
It does f16
@@bruhdealer5208 what?
@@zahnatom f16 doesn't get radar msls only one variant
Bro what are you talking about? Have u ever play this jet yet?
Yes the F16 and mig29 have better engine but that doesnt mean it better at dogfight. Because of bleeding speed so fast on Viggen will let you out 2 turn of these top tier jet. In long run Viggen will loose yes, but you can just turn and missile them or run away 🤷♂️
@@bruhdealer5208 that one f16 variant with aim7 is what everyone is forced to get first though
day 1 of asking for a squadron su22 video