Let me know what you thought of the *Iron Fist Ending* the actors have pretty much confirmed a season 2, but I don't expect it to come before 2019, which gives them the time to fix a lot of the issues season 1 had. Posting new *Flash Episode* after it airs later tonight :)
the interview that Finn Jones just gave recently about being given 15 minutes of prep time before filming a fight sequence explains a ton about why the fight scenes all ended up feeling very lackluster and overall had very little impact. I doubt the choreography for Danny in The Defenders will be much better, but if a 2nd season happens Scott Buck needs to step up and put the time necessary into the pre-viz required to give the audience the fight scenes the character of Danny Rand deserves. For comparison to Jones getting 15 minute prep time; the final fight in the The Raid took 8 full days to shoot and the director has stated he originally wanted 14 days. The full budget of that film was only $1.1M, i'm not sure what the total production budget for Iron Fist was but i know it was more than that. It is all about where the priorities are placed and at least this go around little emphasis seems to have been placed in the fight choreography.
MKSongbird that was the main problem the fight scenes with iron fist they felt so like he was unstoppable compare that to that crazy daredevil season 2
I actually really liked the series ,the only problem was at the ending of the season when Joy plots against Danny with his friend from K'un lun, that just didn't seem natural
Thank you! Finally someone else that found that odd.. It seemed so unmotivated and strange how she hated Danny and her brother, when she got clear evidence that her father was insane and her brother tried to protect her by trying to kill her father. I don't see how she can come to blame Danny for things her father have done.
***** Danny's friend(idk his name) said that he wanted to kill the iron fist at the end of the season, so I do believe that it's their motive; the thing I'm confused about is why Joy turned into such a bitch when she clearly supported Danny throughout the season
Yeah that fell weird...Ward suddenly was ok with danny where as Joy went the opposite...or maybe she's just playing along to see what Davos is planning so that she can help danny later...who knows...
nothin in this show makes any sense dude. danny keeps tellin all the zen shit to us.. about renouncing all materialistic desires etc etc.. and then he buys aston martin rofl! writing in this show is so inconsistent.
MrVad3r well being in the city made him lose himself hence him losing the iron fist for a bit, throughout the show he was showing confusion and questioning his purpose
Lego Ghost Rider Coleen Wing is my favorite character on the show not just because she's hot. I like her arc and to have her in the Hand was one of the writer's best ideas. Madam Gao is badass. I want them to take her down but I'm impressed by her portrayal. Season 1 Danny was an alien to the civilized world but of course he came into his own in the end. We will see him as a confident Danny Rand moving forward. Davos is a good rival plus his motivations aren't silly. He reminds me of Dr. Strange's Mordo. He was once on the hero's side now he chooses to be his enemy. The undead theme here hasn't annoyed me yet they way it did on Arrow season 3 &4 yet. Harold was a beast. He was really a Comicbook villain. Dude is like a cross between Norman Osborn and Agent Smith (In some scenes that's who he sounded like). Ward was the most complex character of them all. We hated his ass then began to feel compassion for him throughout. It didn't look good for him but Im glad he survived and took back Rand. Season 2 will capitilaze on what they did well and improve in their weak areas.
Big Ro season 2 better make up in terms of action and character backstory. I feel we didn't get enough of the actual iron fist and kun lun when that's what the focus should have been instead of his company.
Danex21 Yeah now that I think about the company stuff did seem to drag on a little. I wish they would have established that he was Danny Rand in the first 2 or 3 episodes. It would've left more room for more actual iron fist.
hachet men looked better because the narrow hallway fight gives a lot of shots to stuntmen and doubles. Drunken master fight was pretty good, but was still "clunky". I feel like that scene was one of the more practiced ones.
I didn't really understand, when joy was accepting the proposal for killing Danny, but had not too previously tried to help danny. The character change was so sudden and drastic, I felt.
It seemed so unmotivated and strange how Joy hated Danny and her brother, when she got clear evidence that her father was insane and her brother tried to protect her by trying to kill her father. I don't see how she can come to blame Danny for things her father have done.
J BS In the comics, she is a villain at a time, but it made no sense to consider that offer. only reason I could think is losing her father in a short time just made her break and blame Danny for everything. She didn't know anything until he returned. They could just go that route. None of would of happen if you never returned
One of the problems with the series were the flashbacks ! They showed absoloutly nothing, NOTHING ! They kept showing the plane crash flashback over and over again instead of showing his training and other cool stuff ! They should learn from Arrow !
Totally agree. One of the things I hate most in shows and movies is when they just replay the same scenes over and over again. The show would have been way better if they actually showed Danny training at Kun Lun
Glad somebody else realized that... I was like why the fuck do you keep showing me the same God damn flashback 50 thousand times... I get it the plane crashed and everybody supposedly died except for him... show me what happened after the crash.
I feel like she was just undercover in the Hand all along for her own intentions..she seems to know about Kung Lun alot...so my guess she could be the Crane mother
Noo..... it was clearly shown MANY times Diego's hand was the one that took electra, hell they tried to drain Collen's blood in the SAME way and place as they did to the kids in DDs2, diego took over when Nobu died (once decapitated they die for real), and it was obvious MadamGao didn't care about the BlackSky since DD
I wasn't sure if my expectations were to high. But I realized I didn't like this series as much as the others. It was good just not as good. I even went back and watched another Netflix marvel show (Jessica jones) and found it so much better. Iron fist could be way better in season 2 but I think it's by far the most lacking show out of the 4.
Y'know, im hoping someone will agree with me on this, and i would LOVE to see what you think of the show. i really loved Iron Fist, the actor fit the role perfectly, and he captured how Danny Rand would be like in Real Life, Claire in EVERY Marvel Netflix show brings a warm feeling to my heart, Colleen was and still is BAE but would love some backstory about her. alright, here's just ONE thing that i feel should have more work on, The Fight scenes, don't get me wrong, that Hatchet Men fight scene was AMAZING, but i feel like SOME of the fights didn't capture that realism of IRL fights, some shots were set up so it LOOKS like they're hitting them, but i examined them, and they seemed very staged, like they were a bit far away, IMO that's kind of the ONE glaring gripe i have with the show, overall, i can't wait to see the Defenders in action! Let me know what YOU think should be improved in the show, and personally, i'd give it a score of 9.5/10. it WOULD have been a perfect 10 Netflix show had they have done better with SOME of the fight scenes, but i'd say that's the best score i can give, and i recommend it for any Marvel fan!
I don't like bashing any show, but damn, this was pretty weak, especially when you consider this is their 5th Marvel Netflix show. ***Vague? SPOILERS ahead*** My biggest problem was Danny Rand himself, and maybe more specifically Finn Jones, I'm sure he's a stand up guy in real life, but I didn't believe for a minute that he was a WARRIOR MONK who has been trained relentlessly in martial arts from dusk till dawn for the last 15 YEARS, and is SO GOOD that he (through merit) became THE IRON FIST. He doesn't have the physicality for it, and 80%+ of his fight scenes seemed unbelievable (in a bad way) - Arrow (and recently even Supergirl) have better fight scenes on TV (I quite frankly expect better from Netflix after seeing what they can do on Daredevil). Also he doesn't seem like one of the monks at all, why does he have a (terrible) beard? All the monks we see are clean shaven and well dressed, after 15 years, you'd think Danny has some sense of cleanliness? He doesn't have one in the comics, I don't see the reasoning for it. Also his attitude was less "playful" and more childlike, from his naivete with blabbing about his time in K'un Lun to his simple-minded approach in the board meetings in Rand Enterprises. He makes so many stupid and poorly thought out choices and I felt it more appropriate to view him as a 10yr old in a man's body rather than just a carefree guy ... this made Collen's love scene all the more awkward for me :-/ Idk, honestly, I could rant for a lot longer (which is a shame), but I'm more worried for the future Defenders, and let's not forget, Punisher series which should be out later this year as well. I hope he has fantastic chemistry with Mike Colter as Luke Cage, because if not, I really don't see why they shouldn't recast Finn going forward :-/ sorry buddy. Positives: Colleen Wing, Madam Gao (though she was used sparingly IMO), 3 fight scenes (Colleen in the rain, Colleen with the swordswoman, Drunken Master), and the one and only time the Iron Fist effect actually looks cool at the end of the series. Also, I actually really liked the use of the Psychiatric hospital used to detain Danny and later Ward because I think that would actually happen, and trying to get out of there (more so when Ward was detained) seemed genuinely terrifying. Also, almost forgot Hogarth! Rankings IMO: 1. DD S2 2. DD S1 3. JJ 4. LC (1st Half) 5. Iron Fist 6. LC (2nd half)
I completely agree with you about how they represented Danny - he just came across as dumb, saying 'I don't understand!' every 10 minutes in the first few episodes. As a result I didn't want to root for him because he seemed incapable of making the simplest of realisations, or understanding when he was being manipulated.
smanpimpy Look the way he is portrayed is extrememly well in my opinion. He never lesrned what buisness was, being away for 15 years, all hes learned to do is fight. And he just thought that the decisions hes made were correct because he was taught to keep people safe and not hurt anyone that didnt need to be hurt. Which is why he explained his story and when people didnt understand he was confused to why theyd think hes insane or lying in anyway. For someone who has been trained to fight for 15 years, he isnt a good fighter at all. Daredevil was way better although it shouldnt be that way.
smanpimpy Also the beard was there for the sake of the plot. when everyone made fun of him in the beginning for saying he was danny rand and stuff. They wanted the people in the show to see him as someone that looked broke so they wouldnt let him in the building in the first place
I feel like Ward Meachum was the Frank Castle of the Iron Fist show. Pelphrey's performance of Meachum was totally on parr with Bernthal's take on Castle/Punisher. Just like Frank Castle in DD S2, Meachum was the only character that I was 100% immersed in the whole way; everyone else got boring after awhile.
Not for me did they get boring, loved Davos but Ward I utterly loved by the end most certainly and he by far one of the best things in the whole show. What an amazing character, acted and arc
One thing I think the marvel netflix shows have done pretty well is planting seeds for future stories, which when fleshed out could provide the narrative for future solo series and defenders team-ups. In particular the shadowy military/scientific industrial complexes introduced in Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have great potential. They could be connected to various characters from the different series, including: - how Jessica Jones gains her abilities - the experiments on Killgrave - the program that Frank Simpson (Nuke) is involved with - the experiments on Luke Cage - the technology and military equipment that Diamondback uses (although that was linked to Hammer industries) - the clandestine military operations and subsequent conspiracy Frank Castle was involved with - the chemicals that gave Matt Murdock his abilities Additionally, the Rand corporation (and/or Roxxon as introduced in the Elektra storyline of DD S2) could be responsible or somehow involved with these military/scientific industrial complexes. This could be a source of guilt and responsibility for Danny Rand, and therefore an impetus for him to make amends. Also, this could create tension between Danny Rand and the other Defenders, because of his company's involvement. Going even further, these shadowy military/scientific industrial complexes could be covertly run by AIM or Hydra, or an offshoot of either, providing a link between the netflix and cinematic worlds. Also a fun side note, maybe Orson Randall, as teased (potentially) by the old footage in Iron Fist, could be connected somehow to the Chaste, Stick and Stone. Any thoughts?
Amadou Ba man of steel was all out bad,it wasn't even entertaining ,bvs was very entertaining but the plot sucked therefore the film ended too quick and nothing happened in the film ,I could summarise the who films in a couple of sentence
*_Nice video Charlie, as always! Appreciate your huge work for yotubes community!_* Show was pretty good, with one clarification - it was SUPPOSED TO BE MUCH BETTER! I am as a huge Marvel stuff fan put the stars out 7/10. Otherwise, it is not surprising for everyone (who dunno who he hell is Iron Fist) the show received low rating even a lot ratings less than 5 stars (from 10) for example. *_briefly_* + In the overall dynamics the show more preferable then Luke, but on the whole keeps at the same level of interest. + the acting is very good, I would even say gorgeous (especially Ward, Colleen Wing), the actors seemed to be trying to make a nice flow in all this not so interesting narration of the story. + minimum flashbacks (I was afraid there'd be too much like in "Arrow") + an open ending, well, on the one hand - it's good for show like this, I hope the creators will make a cool second season, there are all the tools for it! A lot of small cons easy to fix! Take the example of a comparison between the first and second season of DD! ~ overall "cardboard" plot, ragged narrative, there is no depth in comparison with DD "The HAND" plot including (√+ the only scenes directly with Danny as character was interesting and important to the main plot and future Defenders show) ~ extremely poor and kinda... mmm... slow (lol?) staging fight scenes (√ pros - I must admit the scenes of fights in the first few series, when Danny was running from the bandits was interesting and varied for the entire series until the end) ~ if compared to other shows (DD, Luke, Jessica) Fist has totally bad job of camera operator in most video shots (maybe that was the MAIN CAUSE of the weak visual effect to the whole picture) ~ subjectively I did not like the appearance of Claire Temple in this time in this show, it was so flat so cliche and banal, like Claire very long time ago already knew that Danny - the super-motherfucker-hero. Their first meeting in the training room if they've been drunk together many times before... Especially I was surprised by the reaction of Danny to tell all the secrets to the unknown person literally since the second meeting. ~ a lot of annoying Meachum family stuff (a lot of things in show about Corp. relationship has no relation to Danny, and could be easily cut) ~ the second half of the show Danny is not involved in any way in the life of the Corporation, the whole life of the Corporation passes by him, and all do not care where he is and what he does - well, it's weird. ~ Steel Serpent (Davos) you can draw an analogy with Baron Mordo (Dr. Strange) the same motives, the same actions, the disappointment in friends, betrayal, and ultimately - a sharp transition on the "dark" side, it was always fun to watch. *_Also I missed the firm Marvel's humor here :( in which they have always been so great! For example, why nobody came up with a joke in the style of:_* _- So, you Iron Fist?_ _- Yes!_ _- So you've got an Iron Suit like Iron Man or something?_ Or why not come up with fat jokes and easter eggs for Dr. Strange, I do not understand too...
Daredevil S2=Amazing 9.5/10, Daredevil S1 and Jessica Jones S1=Great 8/10, Luke Cage and Iron Fist=Satisfactory 7/10. A hero is only as good as it's villains and anti heroes. It's really hard not to compare these dark tone shows to Heath ledger's joker and just as hard not to compare every bad guy in the NetflixMCU to Wilson Fisk and The Punisher. But I liked it, I thought Ward, Harold and Gao were really good.
I'm glad comic book movies and shows aren't shying away from having multiple heroes on at once. Some of the best comic book moments come from interacting with other heroes
Iron McMan It was good but we all can agree there were flaws. It was the first season though so they can make a few adjustments and learn from their mistakes.
Something I guess people missed, When Coleen was taken to the basement where they were draining prisoners blood the Elektra resurrection coffin was behind some plastic sheeting.
Thanks for the update . I have now watched Iron Fist twice and loved it. The soundtrack was very good on it. I never have seen an Iron Fist comic so glad when it is mentioned. My thought on the IF ending is that I feel that the monks always knew Danny wouid be leaving. Is there a place that talks about the Iron Fist prophecy in its entirety? The Davos storyline is going to be epic it seems. Looking forward to Defenders. So what is a season 1 issue?
I think need time to train Finn for S2 , next after the events of Defenders Danny could a closer relationship with the team . Luke especially , he could have comeos in Cage S2 where we start to see Danny more and more at Pop's shop. He could get line ups from Luke while they chat. There friendship could carry over to Iron Fist S2.As far as the mystical side they need focus on that too . I think that Lei Kung could decent the mountain to find Danny . 1. to address that he left his post and complete his training
My thought on the costume is, once the Defenders get used to one another they mention that Danny should be in disguise sense he's so prolific as the Billionaire, so Matt tosses him the black bandana (obviously without eyeholes) and there's a line from Danny about how it's not really his color, combine a yellow DD bandana with Danny's robes and you pretty much have the costume figured out.
Interesting. In both the more "mystical" enstallments in the mcu (Iron Fist and Dr. Strange) we have a sort of jealous good guy that didn't get to be the chosen one that thinks the one that did is doing it totally wrong, so instant antagonist.
A billionaire hero that works alongside other heroes and runs a successful multinational company...who's parents were killed when he was a child...and knows martial arts, speaks other languages and only has sex with aggressive female fighters? There's no one else like that. _Wait a minute..._
Leading up to Danny's suit, I would love to see him either find or receive the previous iron fist's uniform and wear it as he develops as a character and as the iron fist.
I liked the series overall. I do admit the first 3-4 episodes were a little bit slow but it really picked up after that. I feel like some people fail to remember that Iron Fist had the hardest job of all the Marvel Netflix series so far. Not only because it is constantly compared to its predecessors but also because of the fact that it needs to set up for Defenders and got rushed a bit. I think the writers did the best with what they had to work with.
Daredevil 1 Daredevil 2 Jessica Jones Luke Cage Iron Fist Finn Jones aka Iron Fist just can not Act and I couldn't take his martial arts seriously. Before someone starts bitching and crying, my criticism of him has Nothing to do with his race. Just his performance and his horrible martial art skills. He needs some more serious training.
Charles Baylor a fucking men. I was cool with him cause I liked GoT and thought he might be good but his acting was as atrocious as his fighting in IF so yeah, he was absolutely the worst part of the show. I pray they recast him but I know it won't happen.
Ok so here's how I rank the netflix shows. 1. Daredevil season 1 2. Daredevil season 2 Those are interchangeable both nearly flawless 3. Iron Fist The fights were pretty cool and teasing all the lore was done well but the pacing did suffer from having thirteen episodes and Danny's fighting ability (not iron fist just his martial arts knowledge) came off as inconsistent, at least to me. 3 Jessica Jones Really REALLY good villain and David Tennant portrayed him brilliantly. The sexual assault aspect I think was handled well but it also suffered from having 13 episodes. 4.Luke Cage Okay...this was a fun show but I had a lot of problems with it. Let me preface this by saying I think they handled racial stuff pretty well. They didn't drive anything to the point of propaganda but they didn't shy away from controversial topics. Now where it suffered...for starters Cottonmouth was a really cool character and a believable baddie. His sister wasn't. And that twist at the with the main villain being someone Luke knew..so cliche And he was a terrible villain! I don't even remember his name.
In the end, I didn't mind Iron Fist. I found they way they set Davos up for season 2 to be very similar to how Baron Mordo finished up in Doctor Strange, not sure how I feel about that as yet.
I honestly thought it was a pretty good series, I can understand peoples frustration with the race discussion but Iron Fist has always been white, sure an Asian American could have had a unique voice and take on the story (I personally would've preferred it.) but this was a polished, thoughtful and well written show that explored plenty of other issues plighting us. Addiction, Mental Health issues to name a few with Ward! diversity is important. Perhaps an opportunity was missed, but I enjoyed it.
Squishs You're outta your fucking mind if you think this story is well written... There's so many plot holes and filler I wanted to stop watching but I wanted to be caught up for the Defenders. I binge watched every Marvel Netflix show in the days before Iron Fist and I can tell you Iron Fist is far inferior to the others. I don't see why everyone makes excuses for this whiny bitch Danny whose sole purpose is to do something another Character is already halfway done doing?
Best moment of the series for me was when Claire was suggesting Colleen should've called her group something else and we're yelling at the screen "The Foot!"
Don't get me wrong, I love super hero stuff and a big fanboy and usually enjoy just about anything superhero related. But I just couldn't follow DD2 plot-line. I got lost on the Hand story-line (even the Hand storyline In Iron Fist had me confused), and I got no where in trying to figure out what exactly happened with Punisher and why his family was killed. And the show felt like it was telling two seasons or shows into one, one was Daredevil VS Punisher (civil war build up) Origin story and one was this Elektra storyline and the other was the Hand storyline. I just saw a lot of kind of BvS mistakes being rehashed out in season 2 of Daredevil. And now after watching all the shows, the Hand has to be the least engaging and least interesting villains organization, but perhaps in the comics and source materiel they're awesome, I don't know.
Hey Charlie. Would you be able to do a Hand explainer video for Iron Fist? I dont really understand the big twist with Bakudo and if his faction of the Hand is good or if its bad. Was a downside for me. Thanks
I hate to be so negative but man this show was terrible. The most annoying thing is in the opening title sequence, why don't we see the animated character using the IRON FIST in the the title sequence for the IRON FIST?!?!! Drove me nuts.
I honestly don't know why people had so much hate for this show. I really enjoyed it. The focus on martial arts was incredibly appealing to me, and I really liked the characters especially the dynamic between Danny and Colleen.
1) Jessica Jones - for story and symbolism 2) Daredevil season 1 - almost top spot as the fight scenes are amazing 3) Luke Cage - messy, but the vibe and social commentary were great 4) Daredevil season 2 - good, but not great. Also too much Foggy for me to handle (although I know some people love him (why?)) 5) Iron Fist - Bad rep it didn't deserve, was too rushed but had really good elements
you know what I'm still pumped for Defenders! even with the all the negative press over Iron Fist.... I'm still excited to see all the characters that I've come to care about (well the character of Danny himself might need a little work) team up with each other! I think the best thing for them to do is have more crossover between Luke Cage and Iron Fist, if there not gonna do a Heroes For Hire series at least do more crossovers.... i think it would benefit both shows to do that!
Really? idk why nobody likes Jessica Jones that much it is for sure my favourite but for me it's 1.jessica Jones 2.daredevilS2 3.daredevilS1 4.luke/ironfist I can't decide but I really want to see hero's for hire
For season 2 of both IF AND LC they should have a Heroes for Hire storyline on both seasons that occurs in a three episode arc that focuses on that story only then when its done, both characters resume their current main season story.
Jaycee Williams it has a bad development. The characters are terribly developed. They make completely illogical decisions. The martial arts scenes were poor. Danny rand acted like a bitch.
Daredevil > Jessica Jones > Luke Cage > Iron Fist Although if this trend continues does that mean defenders will be the worst? Hope not. I liked Iron Fist but it did have it's problems. Mainly for me, Finn Jones hasn't had enough time to practice fight scenes. Iron fist is meant to be as good as martial arts as it gets in the marvel universe and the show made it look like daredevil would whoop his ass because there was no kinda hallway scene from daredevil where it's all one cut. They had to continuously cut away from the stunt doubles and was obvious.
My list is similar to yours. I believe Ironfist had a little stronger ending to its season than Luke Cage. Jessica Jones nearly didn't have any flaws. No big plotholes unless you count the fact she somehow broke Kilgrave's spell but her show was pretty consistent throughout. Daredevil season 1& 2 are interchangeable. In the end if Luke Cage kept Cottonmouth and had a better finale I would rank it higher. Daredevil Jessica Jones Iron Fist Luke Cage
My list is similar to yours. I believe Ironfist had a little stronger ending to its season than Luke Cage. Jessica Jones nearly didn't have any flaws. No big plotholes unless you count the fact she somehow broke Kilgrave's spell but her show was pretty consistent throughout. Daredevil season 1& 2 are interchangeable. In the end if Luke Cage kept Cottonmouth and had a better finale I would rank it higher. Daredevil Jessica Jones Iron Fist Luke Cage
Nicholas Perry Get the Fuck outta here Luke Cage was all that bad. Most people's criticisms of Luke Cage was that it was too black and not corny enough for the white dudes to relate to. Iron Fist on the other hand had uneven characters, a weak unnecessary story. Iron Fist was about his journey learning about the hand but the general audience already knows about the hand why do we have to relearn that shit. Secondly Danny Rand doesn't know shit. Everybody knows more about the Iron Fist, and The Hand more than he does which makes me wonder why is he a protagonist at all? He has no actual motivations besides who killed his parents. The Plane crashed and you come to the conclusion you're parents were killed? Also the antagonists came off as better people than him so when he defeated them I thought it was a shame. Davos would be a much better Iron Fist than Danny. Danny is such an entitled spoiled little bitch that it's unbelievable he trained in a monestary for 15 years. That's called uneven writing I could go on but I'm too tired.
Elias Note First of all shithead, I'm black. Second of all who the fuck do you think your talking to? And lastly there is legit criticism for luke cage, like how the last 6 episode simply were not as good as the first 7. How the Dimondback character ruined the season with his over acting, and how the story became extremely predictable towards the end. Also, their is no way you actually read the comment because if you did you would know I thought Iron Fist had a weak first season to.
***** right so 6 really good episodes and a few uneven ones towards the end of the seasons is the equivalent to 6 hours of slog for Iron Fist to actually get get then the last 7 where pretty hit and miss gotcha...
+Elias Note To me iron fist is the reverse although the fight were still bad I enjoyed the last 7 far more than the first 6. Also, if half of your episodes are a slog to get through that still means it's a bad season. While Daredevil season 1 was a master class in how to write good television, and season 2 only had 2- bad episodes, same goes for Jessica Jones Season 1. Although, I can still say I enjoyed LC and IF more than JJ I can objectively see it is a superior show.
***** Well agree to disagree there was far to much wrong with Iron Fist for me to even remotely enjoy it. I fucking hated Danny Rand and the writing for this show. The only good episode was the one Co written and Directed my a fucking Rapper.
Cancel Season 2 and do Heroes for Hire instead. The series was so lackluster and painful to watch and that was me skipping boardroom garbage, should only been 8 episodes and use better stunt coordinator
Just finished Iron Fist. There is no way it deserved such a low score. That show was awesome. Sure it was slow in the beginning, but the second half made up for it. I really enjoyed that series. Can't wait for the next season.
Esteban Montalvo I actually agree with you. Everyone except Danny had actual character development and after 13 episodes, Danny's still not the Iron Fist. Very disappointing
Jedidiah Lincoln imagine a white dude joining the good faction of the kkk. colleen insulted everyone's intelligence. ..especially Claire Temple... Colleen Wing - There are different factions of the Hand. We try to help people. Claire Temple - Did you ever think about changing your name from the Hand to the Ear or the Arm? loved how claire told danny and colleen that both of them are basically fucked in the head and they really shouldn't be together... they still didn't listen. lol
@emergencyawesome can you do a video explaining the history of the over all iron fists? and possibly what happens to them after a new iron fist takes the mantle?
Nameless haha that actually made me laugh... yeah your point is valid, even though I'm not black it didn't bother me too much ( the music helped out with that ). the show was still very much enjoyable.
The newest Marvel Future Fight update added a Netflix costume for Iron Fist and "defenders" characters. These characters are Hellcat and all New ghost rider. Trish Walker and Robbie Reyes are both in the Mcu. This makes me belive that Robbie and Trish Will make an appereance in Defenders.
Daredevil had great Story and great Action. Jessica Jones had really good story with ok action. Luke Cage had really good action with an ok story. And Iron Fist had good action with good story.
King Bartu Luke Cage kinda got boring I was only able to watch 3 episodes a day because it would get boring with iron fist I was able to finish in 2 days I watched 7 episode in a day
This just came to mind, remember daredevils first vigilante costume had that half balaclava mask or whatever to cover his face? Looks similar to what iron fist has in the comics only in a yellow colour so I wonder if that will come up in an interaction between the two characters in defenders
Story - I got the impression they wrote a three episode story, then stretched it to six or seven episodes, then stretched it again to thirteen episodes, but then chose all the wrong filler, and added no spice to the recipe, leaving it a weak, bland, water sauce of a soup instead of the hearty meal I expected. They should have been able to handle the entire RAND Corporation situation, including everything with the Meachums, in the first four episodes, because it was all telegraphed anyway. Everything else should have focused on The HAND, and/or Daniel Rand's relationship with Kun Lun. Music -- I didn't even notice it. Really. So, I guess you are right. Martial Arts -- I expect The IRON FIST to be a bit more accomplished. In this, he is almost impressive in some scenes, but the rest of the time he seems rather limited. It seems that he wouldn't be able to handle any of the assassins that have crossed paths with DAREDEVIL. At no point does he get as truly fluid, fully awesome, entirely deadly, as I always imagined the character in the comics. It seems as if the producers did the standard-issue television thing, of slowing down the action so that the audience could see what was happening. That sucks. Because if anything, IRON FIST should instead be the single fastest, quickest reacting, immediately devastating martial artist on television in every single scene. Period. Ending -- Rather disappointing in that it closed off a storyline that should have been finished in about four episodes, then teased a storyline that should have been shown in the last nine episodes of the first season. Instead, we have to wait for _'The REST of the Story'_. With _'LUKE CAGE'_ I wanted to see another 13 episodes immediately. With _'IRON FIST'_ I might have been fine with six more that actually got to the point, instead of dragging along.
Daredevil>Jessica Jones>Luke Cage>Iron Fist. The fight scenes seemed lame, except for the drunk master everything else seemed weak and sloppy. Excepted DD fighting but with faster more controlled martial arts.
Hey Charlie, the dead people infront of the gate to Kun Lun, were they killed just before Danny arrived or have they been dead for sometime? Blood looks fresh but that can be because of the cold weather. Yet with snowstorms the bodies should have been covered with snow if they were killed sometime back.
Hey Charlie, Can you (or anyone) explain why Madam Gao turned out to be part of The Hand after all in Iron Fist. In Daredevil S1 & S2 it seemed like Nobu was the leader of the Hand. Gao's organization seemed to be separate (but equally dangerous)? I'm not sure if they addressed this and I just missed it completely?
I enjoyed iron fist season 1 and was looking out for all the nods to the other series. Could you do a video about the status of the Hand, Madame Gao, her relationship with the Hand and how it all figures into the end of iron fist, end of DD s2 and start of defenders? loving it Emergency Awesome keep it up
I personally would prefer a Heroes for Hire series rather than Iron Fist season 2. I thought Iron Fist season 1 was decent enough, but I kept finding myself saying "Oh, Claire knows someone who could provide some back up for you." Whenever Danny was about to go into a situation by himself or when he needed a lawyer. I realize Hogarth filled the lawyer spot, but I would have loved for Matt or even Foggy to come into the series for that part. Imagine how Foggy would have reacted finding out about the Iron Fist.
As Marvel/Netflix is moving towards Defenders, and Punisher, it looks like they've rushed to bring Iron Fist into the core-group ahead of those. Anyway, we're there now with those forming Defenders. Something else that needs to be addressed (in S02) is why Danny Rand left K'un Lun. The only hint was Danny saying 'I should've been here', at the close.
i think the reason that DD season 1 worked so well was because it was a tight-knit origin story. I will give Iron fist another try during season two though
My biggest problem with Iron Fist, that unfortunately Netflix couldn't do about it, is that it felt unoriginal. While watching it I felt like I was reliving storylines from Batman, Iron Man sometimes, and without a doubt Green Arrow. I mean a rich billionaire with dead parents and obscure martial abilities? It just felt I had watching it before idk if its just me. Also the multiple villains was a problem for me. First it was Ward in the corporate world. Then it was madame Gao. Then it was Bakuto. Then it was Harold. Just too busy. Daredevil season 1 executed how a TV show villain should play out
Let me know what you thought of the *Iron Fist Ending* the actors have pretty much confirmed a season 2, but I don't expect it to come before 2019, which gives them the time to fix a lot of the issues season 1 had. Posting new *Flash Episode* after it airs later tonight :)
Emergency Awesome HYPE I hope Cisco sings.
Emergency Awesome nice vid
he will, the already explained most of the people inside the dream will perform.
the interview that Finn Jones just gave recently about being given 15 minutes of prep time before filming a fight sequence explains a ton about why the fight scenes all ended up feeling very lackluster and overall had very little impact. I doubt the choreography for Danny in The Defenders will be much better, but if a 2nd season happens Scott Buck needs to step up and put the time necessary into the pre-viz required to give the audience the fight scenes the character of Danny Rand deserves. For comparison to Jones getting 15 minute prep time; the final fight in the The Raid took 8 full days to shoot and the director has stated he originally wanted 14 days. The full budget of that film was only $1.1M, i'm not sure what the total production budget for Iron Fist was but i know it was more than that. It is all about where the priorities are placed and at least this go around little emphasis seems to have been placed in the fight choreography.
MKSongbird that was the main problem the fight scenes with iron fist they felt so like he was unstoppable compare that to that crazy daredevil season 2
"Ward you are the biggest dissapointment of my life" - Harold Meachum 2K17
went out like a boss 👍
Harold was my favorite character, hopefully he can respawn from ashes, lol
***** loved the Shao lao eyes
Bryce Newman This show is the biggest dissapointment of my life!!!
Richard Cruz it's not too bad ,it was entertaining but nothing special ,maybe your expectation was too high
I actually really liked the series ,the only problem was at the ending of the season when Joy plots against Danny with his friend from K'un lun, that just didn't seem natural
Thank you! Finally someone else that found that odd.. It seemed so unmotivated and strange how she hated Danny and her brother, when she got clear evidence that her father was insane and her brother tried to protect her by trying to kill her father. I don't see how she can come to blame Danny for things her father have done.
Vineet Satija I don't really see her or his motive for wanting to kill him
Vineet Satija agreed
***** Danny's friend(idk his name) said that he wanted to kill the iron fist at the end of the season, so I do believe that it's their motive; the thing I'm confused about is why Joy turned into such a bitch when she clearly supported Danny throughout the season
Yeah that fell weird...Ward suddenly was ok with danny where as Joy went the opposite...or maybe she's just playing along to see what Davos is planning so that she can help danny later...who knows...
Joy must be under mind control by Gal or something cause her wanting to kill Danny makes no sense
DJ ShaqTown joy has always had a soft spot for him so I don't understand why she would hate him now
Ben Levine yup exactly what i said smh
nothin in this show makes any sense dude. danny keeps tellin all the zen shit to us.. about renouncing all materialistic desires etc etc.. and then he buys aston martin rofl! writing in this show is so inconsistent.
DJ ShaqTown I think he was just agreeing xD
MrVad3r well being in the city made him lose himself hence him losing the iron fist for a bit, throughout the show he was showing confusion and questioning his purpose
Iron Fist was definitely my least favourite, however i still believe the critics where a little too harsh on it.
Iron Fist was good. I can't wait for S2 of Iron Fist and the Defenders.
Lego Ghost Rider Coleen Wing is my favorite character on the show not just because she's hot. I like her arc and to have her in the Hand was one of the writer's best ideas. Madam Gao is badass. I want them to take her down but I'm impressed by her portrayal. Season 1 Danny was an alien to the civilized world but of course he came into his own in the end. We will see him as a confident Danny Rand moving forward. Davos is a good rival plus his motivations aren't silly.
He reminds me of Dr. Strange's Mordo. He was once on the hero's side now he chooses to be his enemy. The undead theme here hasn't annoyed me yet they way it did on Arrow season 3 &4 yet. Harold was a beast. He was really a Comicbook villain. Dude is like a cross between Norman Osborn and Agent Smith (In some scenes that's who he sounded like).
Ward was the most complex character of them all. We hated his ass then began to feel compassion for him throughout. It didn't look good for him but Im glad he survived and took back Rand. Season 2 will capitilaze on what they did well and improve in their weak areas.
Hi Again.
Colleen is a very sexy japanese woman.
Toad true lol
Toad you are a mushroom
My only gripe on iron fist is the martial arts scenes. I hate all of those cuts, either give them a mask or properly train the actors in martial arts.
Big Ro season 2 better make up in terms of action and character backstory. I feel we didn't get enough of the actual iron fist and kun lun when that's what the focus should have been instead of his company.
Danex21 Yeah now that I think about the company stuff did seem to drag on a little. I wish they would have established that he was Danny Rand in the first 2 or 3 episodes. It would've left more room for more actual iron fist.
Agreed, the drunken master and hachet men fights were pretty good though
hachet men looked better because the narrow hallway fight gives a lot of shots to stuntmen and doubles. Drunken master fight was pretty good, but was still "clunky". I feel like that scene was one of the more practiced ones.
Yup, hopefully we get more scenes like those in the future
I didn't really understand, when joy was accepting the proposal for killing Danny, but had not too previously tried to help danny. The character change was so sudden and drastic, I felt.
It seemed so unmotivated and strange how Joy hated Danny and her brother, when she got clear evidence that her father was insane and her brother tried to protect her by trying to kill her father. I don't see how she can come to blame Danny for things her father have done.
J BS that made me really hate her
J BS In the comics, she is a villain at a time, but it made no sense to consider that offer. only reason I could think is losing her father in a short time just made her break and blame Danny for everything. She didn't know anything until he returned. They could just go that route. None of would of happen if you never returned
J BS probably the things that happened to her after Danny returned
Well she said "I am listening" not "totally on board Davos"
One of the problems with the series were the flashbacks ! They showed absoloutly nothing, NOTHING ! They kept showing the plane crash flashback over and over again instead of showing his training and other cool stuff ! They should learn from Arrow !
Armin Barimani Agreed I was annoyed by how many times they showed the plane crash.
Armin Barimani yep.. Flashback didn't seems to prove anything
I mean arrow's flashback has done it better
They should learn from dd and jj
Totally agree. One of the things I hate most in shows and movies is when they just replay the same scenes over and over again. The show would have been way better if they actually showed Danny training at Kun Lun
Glad somebody else realized that... I was like why the fuck do you keep showing me the same God damn flashback 50 thousand times... I get it the plane crashed and everybody supposedly died except for him... show me what happened after the crash.
Charlie is the man. He is the greatest RUclipsr who gives a dam. Making videos is his jam.
Dzilla Gaming Charlie as in wolfieraps ?
CandyGrooves comicstorian
That rhymed, man
Exhustani there's me thinking Sherlock Holmes is dead
I don't know what that meant ..but you always gotta be one step ahead
Is it just me, or does Matt's S1 costume look A LOT like the Iron Fist costume? When Defenders starts, Matt should just give it to Danny.
Iron Fist costume is a ceremonial robe that all Iron Fist's from kun lun wear, Danny should a had one already.
PagemanX He didn't complete his training so that's probably why he didn't have it yet
I honestly like Iron Fist i don't know why people is complaning about it
Ricardo Lopez I loved it but it wasn't as good as the other shows
Ricardo Lopez The game was Meh and the action scenes was okay
I honestly think Iron Fist sucked, I don't know why people like it.
EzekieI Because is called an opinion
Why don't you actually give your insight instead of just saying it was bad? Elaborate, please.
Claire: Hey, I know a bunch of powered people that have been fighting the Hand.
Danny Rand: We have to do this alone.
Charlie, Since there are different factions of the Hand. Is Madame Gao part of the faction that took Elektra?
Elektra that's what I think
Elektra yes
I feel like she was just undercover in the Hand all along for her own intentions..she seems to know about Kung Lun alot...so my guess she could be the Crane mother
Noo..... it was clearly shown MANY times Diego's hand was the one that took electra, hell they tried to drain Collen's blood in the SAME way and place as they did to the kids in DDs2, diego took over when Nobu died (once decapitated they die for real), and it was obvious MadamGao didn't care about the BlackSky since DD
there are probably 3 or 2 faction. since gao''s and nobu's ninjas look the same. I want to see all the factons fights
Love your content, Charlie. It's cool seeing how much your channel has grown in the last few years. Keep doing you, dude. 👍
I wasn't sure if my expectations were to high. But I realized I didn't like this series as much as the others. It was good just not as good. I even went back and watched another Netflix marvel show (Jessica jones) and found it so much better. Iron fist could be way better in season 2 but I think it's by far the most lacking show out of the 4.
Y'know, im hoping someone will agree with me on this, and i would LOVE to see what you think of the show.
i really loved Iron Fist, the actor fit the role perfectly, and he captured how Danny Rand would be like in Real Life, Claire in EVERY Marvel Netflix show brings a warm feeling to my heart, Colleen was and still is BAE but would love some backstory about her.
alright, here's just ONE thing that i feel should have more work on, The Fight scenes, don't get me wrong, that Hatchet Men fight scene was AMAZING, but i feel like SOME of the fights didn't capture that realism of IRL fights, some shots were set up so it LOOKS like they're hitting them, but i examined them, and they seemed very staged, like they were a bit far away, IMO that's kind of the ONE glaring gripe i have with the show, overall, i can't wait to see the Defenders in action!
Let me know what YOU think should be improved in the show, and personally, i'd give it a score of 9.5/10. it WOULD have been a perfect 10 Netflix show had they have done better with SOME of the fight scenes, but i'd say that's the best score i can give, and i recommend it for any Marvel fan!
I don't like bashing any show, but damn, this was pretty weak, especially when you consider this is their 5th Marvel Netflix show.
***Vague? SPOILERS ahead***
My biggest problem was Danny Rand himself, and maybe more specifically Finn Jones, I'm sure he's a stand up guy in real life, but I didn't believe for a minute that he was a WARRIOR MONK who has been trained relentlessly in martial arts from dusk till dawn for the last 15 YEARS, and is SO GOOD that he (through merit) became THE IRON FIST. He doesn't have the physicality for it, and 80%+ of his fight scenes seemed unbelievable (in a bad way) - Arrow (and recently even Supergirl) have better fight scenes on TV (I quite frankly expect better from Netflix after seeing what they can do on Daredevil).
Also he doesn't seem like one of the monks at all, why does he have a (terrible) beard? All the monks we see are clean shaven and well dressed, after 15 years, you'd think Danny has some sense of cleanliness? He doesn't have one in the comics, I don't see the reasoning for it.
Also his attitude was less "playful" and more childlike, from his naivete with blabbing about his time in K'un Lun to his simple-minded approach in the board meetings in Rand Enterprises. He makes so many stupid and poorly thought out choices and I felt it more appropriate to view him as a 10yr old in a man's body rather than just a carefree guy ... this made Collen's love scene all the more awkward for me :-/
Idk, honestly, I could rant for a lot longer (which is a shame), but I'm more worried for the future Defenders, and let's not forget, Punisher series which should be out later this year as well.
I hope he has fantastic chemistry with Mike Colter as Luke Cage, because if not, I really don't see why they shouldn't recast Finn going forward :-/ sorry buddy.
Positives: Colleen Wing, Madam Gao (though she was used sparingly IMO), 3 fight scenes (Colleen in the rain, Colleen with the swordswoman, Drunken Master), and the one and only time the Iron Fist effect actually looks cool at the end of the series.
Also, I actually really liked the use of the Psychiatric hospital used to detain Danny and later Ward because I think that would actually happen, and trying to get out of there (more so when Ward was detained) seemed genuinely terrifying. Also, almost forgot Hogarth!
Rankings IMO:
1. DD S2
2. DD S1
3. JJ
4. LC (1st Half)
5. Iron Fist
6. LC (2nd half)
TlDR
Haha everything went downhill after Cottonmouth left. But as a whole, it's still better than Iron Fist, so that'd make IF dead last.
I completely agree with you about how they represented Danny - he just came across as dumb, saying 'I don't understand!' every 10 minutes in the first few episodes. As a result I didn't want to root for him because he seemed incapable of making the simplest of realisations, or understanding when he was being manipulated.
smanpimpy Look the way he is portrayed is extrememly well in my opinion. He never lesrned what buisness was, being away for 15 years, all hes learned to do is fight. And he just thought that the decisions hes made were correct because he was taught to keep people safe and not hurt anyone that didnt need to be hurt. Which is why he explained his story and when people didnt understand he was confused to why theyd think hes insane or lying in anyway. For someone who has been trained to fight for 15 years, he isnt a good fighter at all. Daredevil was way better although it shouldnt be that way.
smanpimpy Also the beard was there for the sake of the plot. when everyone made fun of him in the beginning for saying he was danny rand and stuff. They wanted the people in the show to see him as someone that looked broke so they wouldnt let him in the building in the first place
I really enjoyed Ward's character. He went from a rich snob pupett to psychotic killer to a protagonist by the end!
I feel like Ward Meachum was the Frank Castle of the Iron Fist show. Pelphrey's performance of Meachum was totally on parr with Bernthal's take on Castle/Punisher. Just like Frank Castle in DD S2, Meachum was the only character that I was 100% immersed in the whole way; everyone else got boring after awhile.
Not for me did they get boring, loved Davos but Ward I utterly loved by the end most certainly and he by far one of the best things in the whole show. What an amazing character, acted and arc
the chick that does Claire never skipped a beat to
ha ha true. ya gotta love Claire.
I initially didn't like him, but as the show went on, you do start to sympathize with him. Definitely a highlight of the series
One thing I think the marvel netflix shows have done pretty well is planting seeds for future stories, which when fleshed out could provide the narrative for future solo series and defenders team-ups.
In particular the shadowy military/scientific industrial complexes introduced in Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have great potential. They could be connected to various characters from the different series, including:
- how Jessica Jones gains her abilities
- the experiments on Killgrave
- the program that Frank Simpson (Nuke) is involved with
- the experiments on Luke Cage
- the technology and military equipment that Diamondback uses (although that was linked to Hammer industries)
- the clandestine military operations and subsequent conspiracy Frank Castle was involved with
- the chemicals that gave Matt Murdock his abilities
Additionally, the Rand corporation (and/or Roxxon as introduced in the Elektra storyline of DD S2) could be responsible or somehow involved with these military/scientific industrial complexes. This could be a source of guilt and responsibility for Danny Rand, and therefore an impetus for him to make amends. Also, this could create tension between Danny Rand and the other Defenders, because of his company's involvement.
Going even further, these shadowy military/scientific industrial complexes could be covertly run by AIM or Hydra, or an offshoot of either, providing a link between the netflix and cinematic worlds.
Also a fun side note, maybe Orson Randall, as teased (potentially) by the old footage in Iron Fist, could be connected somehow to the Chaste, Stick and Stone.
Any thoughts?
Why do people care so much about reviews. Critics watch to criticize everyone else come to enjoy themselves
Amadou Ba Marvel fans are feeling like DC fans because of all of the bad reviews.
Amadou Ba man of steel was all out bad,it wasn't even entertaining ,bvs was very entertaining but the plot sucked therefore the film ended too quick and nothing happened in the film ,I could summarise the who films in a couple of sentence
vanta black BvS wasn't entertaining at all like suicide squad
Amadou Ba are you stupid
Amadou Ba critics go in to enjoy a movie as well. If they went in only to hate then every movie would be rotten on the site.
*_Nice video Charlie, as always! Appreciate your huge work for yotubes community!_*
Show was pretty good, with one clarification - it was SUPPOSED TO BE MUCH BETTER! I am as a huge Marvel stuff fan put the stars out 7/10. Otherwise, it is not surprising for everyone (who dunno who he hell is Iron Fist) the show received low rating even a lot ratings less than 5 stars (from 10) for example.
*_briefly_*
+ In the overall dynamics the show more preferable then Luke, but on the whole keeps at the same level of interest.
+ the acting is very good, I would even say gorgeous (especially Ward, Colleen Wing), the actors seemed to be trying to make a nice flow in all this not so interesting narration of the story.
+ minimum flashbacks (I was afraid there'd be too much like in "Arrow")
+ an open ending, well, on the one hand - it's good for show like this, I hope the creators will make a cool second season, there are all the tools for it! A lot of small cons easy to fix! Take the example of a comparison between the first and second season of DD!
~ overall "cardboard" plot, ragged narrative, there is no depth in comparison with DD "The HAND" plot including (√+ the only scenes directly with Danny as character was interesting and important to the main plot and future Defenders show)
~ extremely poor and kinda... mmm... slow (lol?) staging fight scenes (√ pros - I must admit the scenes of fights in the first few series, when Danny was running from the bandits was interesting and varied for the entire series until the end)
~ if compared to other shows (DD, Luke, Jessica) Fist has totally bad job of camera operator in most video shots (maybe that was the MAIN CAUSE of the weak visual effect to the whole picture)
~ subjectively I did not like the appearance of Claire Temple in this time in this show, it was so flat so cliche and banal, like Claire very long time ago already knew that Danny - the super-motherfucker-hero. Their first meeting in the training room if they've been drunk together many times before... Especially I was surprised by the reaction of Danny to tell all the secrets to the unknown person literally since the second meeting.
~ a lot of annoying Meachum family stuff (a lot of things in show about Corp. relationship has no relation to Danny, and could be easily cut)
~ the second half of the show Danny is not involved in any way in the life of the Corporation, the whole life of the Corporation passes by him, and all do not care where he is and what he does - well, it's weird.
~ Steel Serpent (Davos) you can draw an analogy with Baron Mordo (Dr. Strange) the same motives, the same actions, the disappointment in friends, betrayal, and ultimately - a sharp transition on the "dark" side, it was always fun to watch.
*_Also I missed the firm Marvel's humor here :( in which they have always been so great! For example, why nobody came up with a joke in the style of:_*
_- So, you Iron Fist?_
_- Yes!_
_- So you've got an Iron Suit like Iron Man or something?_
Or why not come up with fat jokes and easter eggs for Dr. Strange, I do not understand too...
Daredevil S2=Amazing 9.5/10, Daredevil S1 and Jessica Jones S1=Great 8/10, Luke Cage and Iron Fist=Satisfactory 7/10. A hero is only as good as it's villains and anti heroes. It's really hard not to compare these dark tone shows to Heath ledger's joker and just as hard not to compare every bad guy in the NetflixMCU to Wilson Fisk and The Punisher. But I liked it, I thought Ward, Harold and Gao were really good.
Albert Esteva
Daredevil s1: 9.5/10
Luke cage s1: 9/10
Daredevil s2: 8/10
Jessica jones s1: 7/10
Iron fist s1: 4.5/10
Lol iron fist = 7?!?! MORE LIKE 4.
I'm glad comic book movies and shows aren't shying away from having multiple heroes on at once. Some of the best comic book moments come from interacting with other heroes
I thought it was good, don't care what everyone else says
Iron McMan Same.
Iron McMan It had its fair share of flaws but this show was still good and I'm definitely looking forward to season 2!
Iron McMan It was good but we all can agree there were flaws. It was the first season though so they can make a few adjustments and learn from their mistakes.
Iron McMan it was good ,the people who hate are too attached to the comics and has high expectations
RC248 what are these "flaws" you speak of?
Something I guess people missed, When Coleen was taken to the basement where they were draining prisoners blood the Elektra resurrection coffin was behind some plastic sheeting.
I would watch a season 2 but I would hope for improvements. If super girl and legends of tomorrow can get a season 2 iron fist deserves a season 2.
Yeah ..and LOT Season 2 turned out ..to be amazing..I'm kinda hoping the same for Iron Fist-2end season !
Thanks for the update . I have now watched Iron Fist twice and loved it. The soundtrack was very good on it. I never have seen an Iron Fist comic so glad when it is mentioned. My thought on the IF ending is that I feel that the monks always knew Danny wouid be leaving. Is there a place that talks about the Iron Fist prophecy in its entirety? The Davos storyline is going to be epic it seems. Looking forward to Defenders. So what is a season 1 issue?
I really enjoyed Iron fist and I am really tired of all the criticism, everyone needs to chill the fuck out and learn to have a good time.
I think need time to train Finn for S2 , next after the events of Defenders Danny could a closer relationship with the team . Luke especially , he could have comeos in Cage S2 where we start to see Danny more and more at Pop's shop. He could get line ups from Luke while they chat. There friendship could carry over to Iron Fist S2.As far as the mystical side they need focus on that too . I think that Lei Kung could decent the mountain to find Danny . 1. to address that he left his post and complete his training
My Netflix Marvel show ranking.
#1 Daredevil
#2 Luke Cage
#3 Jessica Jones
#4 Iron Fist
ploftin93 switch luke cage with jessica jones and i agree with you
For me its
1 daredevil
2 iron fist
3 Jessica jones
4 Luke cage
For me its:
1. Iron Fist
2. Daredevil
3. Jessica Jones (a distant 3rd at that)
4. Luke Cage (distinct trouble finishing it)
Me too
1: DD
2: luke cage
3: JJ
4: iron fist
For me its:
#1 Daredevil
#2 Iron Fist
#3 Luke Cage
#4 Jessica Jones
IF over LC because IF has more fight scenes and I watch for the kick a$$.
My thought on the costume is, once the Defenders get used to one another they mention that Danny should be in disguise sense he's so prolific as the Billionaire, so Matt tosses him the black bandana (obviously without eyeholes) and there's a line from Danny about how it's not really his color, combine a yellow DD bandana with Danny's robes and you pretty much have the costume figured out.
damn no iron fist till 2019? that kinda sucks tbh i was looking forward to it. but i really cant wait for defenders tho it's gonna be so good
i loved the way it set up the next step. i like how they are taking there time to merge it all.
I love the the series! Finished it over the weekend!
Z Master Same here. I honestly don't understand all the hate
I think the big person above in The Hand that Bakuto & Gao kept talking about is Sigourney Weaver's Alexandra that we'll see in The Defenders
Interesting. In both the more "mystical" enstallments in the mcu (Iron Fist and Dr. Strange) we have a sort of jealous good guy that didn't get to be the chosen one that thinks the one that did is doing it totally wrong, so instant antagonist.
Roland Fisher Id be pissed to if I was training for something for years and some random outsider comes and takes it from me.
Is it just me or are harold and bukudo's voice very satisfying to listen to.
also why does Iron Fist need to be a hero for hire if he's a billionaire?
RN Jesus Because people need heroes?? Because it's not about the money???
RN Jesus Well, maybe he looses control over the money
well in comics danny felt he didn't earn the money he got from rand so he wanted to earn it his own way. insert heroes for hire
oh ok thanks all you guys with productive answers
A billionaire hero that works alongside other heroes and runs a successful multinational company...who's parents were killed when he was a child...and knows martial arts, speaks other languages and only has sex with aggressive female fighters? There's no one else like that.
_Wait a minute..._
That butt bump was so hilarious😂😂😂
Liz C 😂😂😂
I hate the reviews it was really good
this was my favorite season :D
Why it got season 2 most likely because Netflix numbers or whatever they use for success determined it still was
Shren I really like the story but actor was shit and his style of fight were shit too. I enjoyed the Asian girl fights tho
Just saw a couple of your reviews. Really liked them. You have a new subscriber!👍
Colling wing was awsome in this series
She was kinda cringy but ok i guess
Leading up to Danny's suit, I would love to see him either find or receive the previous iron fist's uniform and wear it as he develops as a character and as the iron fist.
*LOVE* Iron Fist. The only things I really didn't like was the whole Meachum family Drama and Bakuto. That dude is annoying
WC Hoopers I didn't know he was in the comics
And that scummy pronunciation of words lol (RESPECT UR SENSAYYYYY) *shudder*
That was the entire show!
I liked the series overall. I do admit the first 3-4 episodes were a little bit slow but it really picked up after that. I feel like some people fail to remember that Iron Fist had the hardest job of all the Marvel Netflix series so far. Not only because it is constantly compared to its predecessors but also because of the fact that it needs to set up for Defenders and got rushed a bit. I think the writers did the best with what they had to work with.
Daredevil 1
Daredevil 2
Jessica Jones
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Finn Jones aka Iron Fist just can not Act and I couldn't take his martial arts seriously. Before someone starts bitching and crying, my criticism of him has Nothing to do with his race. Just his performance and his horrible martial art skills. He needs some more serious training.
Charles Baylor Iron Fists problems had nothing to do with him it was all the lazy rushed writing.
Charles Baylor he's a great actor and martial artist it was just the writing and coorigraphy
Charles Baylor a fucking men. I was cool with him cause I liked GoT and thought he might be good but his acting was as atrocious as his fighting in IF so yeah, he was absolutely the worst part of the show. I pray they recast him but I know it won't happen.
Ok so here's how I rank the netflix shows.
1. Daredevil season 1
2. Daredevil season 2
Those are interchangeable both nearly flawless
3. Iron Fist
The fights were pretty cool and teasing all the lore was done well but the pacing did suffer from having thirteen episodes and Danny's fighting ability (not iron fist just his martial arts knowledge) came off as inconsistent, at least to me.
3 Jessica Jones
Really REALLY good villain and David Tennant portrayed him brilliantly. The sexual assault aspect I think was handled well but it also suffered from having 13 episodes.
4.Luke Cage
Okay...this was a fun show but I had a lot of problems with it. Let me preface this by saying I think they handled racial stuff pretty well. They didn't drive anything to the point of propaganda but they didn't shy away from controversial topics. Now where it suffered...for starters Cottonmouth was a really cool character and a believable baddie. His sister wasn't. And that twist at the with the main villain being someone Luke knew..so cliche And he was a terrible villain! I don't even remember his name.
love the show
In the end, I didn't mind Iron Fist. I found they way they set Davos up for season 2 to be very similar to how Baron Mordo finished up in Doctor Strange, not sure how I feel about that as yet.
joy meachum twist is so stupid and doesn't makes sense at all.
Great vid !
I honestly thought it was a pretty good series, I can understand peoples frustration with the race discussion but Iron Fist has always been white, sure an Asian American could have had a unique voice and take on the story (I personally would've preferred it.) but this was a polished, thoughtful and well written show that explored plenty of other issues plighting us. Addiction, Mental Health issues to name a few with Ward! diversity is important. Perhaps an opportunity was missed, but I enjoyed it.
Squishs You're outta your fucking mind if you think this story is well written... There's so many plot holes and filler I wanted to stop watching but I wanted to be caught up for the Defenders. I binge watched every Marvel Netflix show in the days before Iron Fist and I can tell you Iron Fist is far inferior to the others. I don't see why everyone makes excuses for this whiny bitch Danny whose sole purpose is to do something another Character is already halfway done doing?
Best moment of the series for me was when Claire was suggesting Colleen should've called her group something else and we're yelling at the screen "The Foot!"
am I the only one that liked this show? my ranking of Netflix shows....
#1 - Daredevil
#2 - Iron Fist
#3 - Jessica Jones
#4 - Luke Cage
my ranking
1. Daredevil s1: 9/10
2. Luke Cage 5/10
3. Iron Fist 1/10
Jessica Jones and Daredevil s2
joshua Mathews ddS2 was great wtf
Don't get me wrong, I love super hero stuff and a big fanboy and usually enjoy just about anything superhero related. But I just couldn't follow DD2 plot-line. I got lost on the Hand story-line (even the Hand storyline In Iron Fist had me confused), and I got no where in trying to figure out what exactly happened with Punisher and why his family was killed. And the show felt like it was telling two seasons or shows into one, one was Daredevil VS Punisher (civil war build up) Origin story and one was this Elektra storyline and the other was the Hand storyline. I just saw a lot of kind of BvS mistakes being rehashed out in season 2 of Daredevil. And now after watching all the shows, the Hand has to be the least engaging and least interesting villains organization, but perhaps in the comics and source materiel they're awesome, I don't know.
Hey Charlie. Would you be able to do a Hand explainer video for Iron Fist? I dont really understand the big twist with Bakudo and if his faction of the Hand is good or if its bad. Was a downside for me. Thanks
I hate to be so negative but man this show was terrible. The most annoying thing is in the opening title sequence, why don't we see the animated character using the IRON FIST in the the title sequence for the IRON FIST?!?!! Drove me nuts.
I can't believe it. Someone is actually being honest for once
I honestly don't know why people had so much hate for this show. I really enjoyed it. The focus on martial arts was incredibly appealing to me, and I really liked the characters especially the dynamic between Danny and Colleen.
1) Jessica Jones - for story and symbolism
2) Daredevil season 1 - almost top spot as the fight scenes are amazing
3) Luke Cage - messy, but the vibe and social commentary were great
4) Daredevil season 2 - good, but not great. Also too much Foggy for me to handle (although I know some people love him (why?))
5) Iron Fist - Bad rep it didn't deserve, was too rushed but had really good elements
Corgettes 1.)Always Daredevil 2.)Iron fist 3.)Luke Cage 4.)JJ
Corgettes strongly agree with you!
you know what I'm still pumped for Defenders! even with the all the negative press over Iron Fist.... I'm still excited to see all the characters that I've come to care about (well the character of Danny himself might need a little work) team up with each other! I think the best thing for them to do is have more crossover between Luke Cage and Iron Fist, if there not gonna do a Heroes For Hire series at least do more crossovers.... i think it would benefit both shows to do that!
liked iron fist ... yes it was slow...but the ending cliff hangers rocked and the casting of Danny Rand...spot on
Daniel Angulo he just needs to do some crossfit.
In the last episode of Season 1 Iron Fist you could see a Stan Lee cameo, he was in a poster called 'BeProud'
1. DD S1
2. DD S2
3. LC
4. IF
5. JJ
KichiNotCichi really?
KichiNotCichi I agree
Really? idk why nobody likes Jessica Jones that much it is for sure my favourite but for me it's
1.jessica Jones
2.daredevilS2
3.daredevilS1
4.luke/ironfist I can't decide
but I really want to see hero's for hire
Brighton Deck that's literally the opposite list for me, lol
KichiNotCichi lol idk what I liked about Jessica i think it was just killgrave I really liked him
For season 2 of both IF AND LC they should have a Heroes for Hire storyline on both seasons that occurs in a three episode arc that focuses on that story only then when its done, both characters resume their current main season story.
idk why people complained about iron fist, i think it was better than both luke cage and jessica Jones
Jaycee Williams I know is your opinion but if you like this a lot more than Jessica Jones only because it was supposed to be drama and not action .
Jaycee Williams it has a bad development. The characters are terribly developed. They make completely illogical decisions. The martial arts scenes were poor. Danny rand acted like a bitch.
Alec A dude he has been away from New York for 15 years give him a break all he knew was train he doesn't know much about emotion or being social
Hey Charlie! Great video dude!
Mr.Vulture impossible, this video is 9 mins long and it was released 2 mins ago
thanks! 👍
FlightzZ Gaming Ay! I know greatness when I see it. And finished the video. Was as great as expected.
Daredevil > Jessica Jones > Iron Fist > Luke Cage
Daredevil > Jessica Jones > Luke Cage > Iron Fist
Although if this trend continues does that mean defenders will be the worst? Hope not.
I liked Iron Fist but it did have it's problems. Mainly for me, Finn Jones hasn't had enough time to practice fight scenes. Iron fist is meant to be as good as martial arts as it gets in the marvel universe and the show made it look like daredevil would whoop his ass because there was no kinda hallway scene from daredevil where it's all one cut. They had to continuously cut away from the stunt doubles and was obvious.
Daredevil>Luke Cage>Iron Fist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jessica Jones
Jessica Jones is complete trash.
People actually liked Jessica Jones? lol
My list is similar to yours. I believe Ironfist had a little stronger ending to its season than Luke Cage. Jessica Jones nearly didn't have any flaws. No big plotholes unless you count the fact she somehow broke Kilgrave's spell but her show was pretty consistent throughout. Daredevil season 1& 2 are interchangeable. In the end if Luke Cage kept Cottonmouth and had a better finale I would rank it higher.
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
My list is similar to yours. I believe Ironfist had a little stronger ending to its season than Luke Cage. Jessica Jones nearly didn't have any flaws. No big plotholes unless you count the fact she somehow broke Kilgrave's spell but her show was pretty consistent throughout. Daredevil season 1& 2 are interchangeable. In the end if Luke Cage kept Cottonmouth and had a better finale I would rank it higher.
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Which costume do you like the most Charlie???
Iron Fist and Luke Cage were the weaker of the Netflix Series would benefit from combing them.
Nicholas Perry Get the Fuck outta here Luke Cage was all that bad. Most people's criticisms of Luke Cage was that it was too black and not corny enough for the white dudes to relate to. Iron Fist on the other hand had uneven characters, a weak unnecessary story. Iron Fist was about his journey learning about the hand but the general audience already knows about the hand why do we have to relearn that shit. Secondly Danny Rand doesn't know shit. Everybody knows more about the Iron Fist, and The Hand more than he does which makes me wonder why is he a protagonist at all? He has no actual motivations besides who killed his parents. The Plane crashed and you come to the conclusion you're parents were killed? Also the antagonists came off as better people than him so when he defeated them I thought it was a shame. Davos would be a much better Iron Fist than Danny. Danny is such an entitled spoiled little bitch that it's unbelievable he trained in a monestary for 15 years. That's called uneven writing I could go on but I'm too tired.
Elias Note First of all shithead, I'm black. Second of all who the fuck do you think your talking to? And lastly there is legit criticism for luke cage, like how the last 6 episode simply were not as good as the first 7. How the Dimondback character ruined the season with his over acting, and how the story became extremely predictable towards the end. Also, their is no way you actually read the comment because if you did you would know I thought Iron Fist had a weak first season to.
***** right so 6 really good episodes and a few uneven ones towards the end of the seasons is the equivalent to 6 hours of slog for Iron Fist to actually get get then the last 7 where pretty hit and miss gotcha...
+Elias Note To me iron fist is the reverse although the fight were still bad I enjoyed the last 7 far more than the first 6. Also, if half of your episodes are a slog to get through that still means it's a bad season. While Daredevil season 1 was a master class in how to write good television, and season 2 only had 2- bad episodes, same goes for Jessica Jones Season 1. Although, I can still say I enjoyed LC and IF more than JJ I can objectively see it is a superior show.
***** Well agree to disagree there was far to much wrong with Iron Fist for me to even remotely enjoy it. I fucking hated Danny Rand and the writing for this show. The only good episode was the one Co written and Directed my a fucking Rapper.
Why wasn't Joy's photo on the company wall along with Danny and Ward's photo ?
Cancel Season 2 and do Heroes for Hire instead. The series was so lackluster and painful to watch and that was me skipping boardroom garbage, should only been 8 episodes and use better stunt coordinator
edward hickey They will improve the second season . Now they can take their time to do it properly
We can hope
Just finished Iron Fist. There is no way it deserved such a low score. That show was awesome. Sure it was slow in the beginning, but the second half made up for it. I really enjoyed that series. Can't wait for the next season.
I am disappointed of Iron Fist
why?
Stitch Rocks because it was boring af
Esteban Montalvo I actually agree with you. Everyone except Danny had actual character development and after 13 episodes, Danny's still not the Iron Fist. Very disappointing
Jedidiah Lincoln imagine a white dude joining the good faction of the kkk. colleen insulted everyone's intelligence. ..especially Claire Temple...
Colleen Wing - There are different factions of the Hand. We try to help people.
Claire Temple - Did you ever think about changing your name from the Hand to the Ear or the Arm?
loved how claire told danny and colleen that both of them are basically fucked in the head and they really shouldn't be together... they still didn't listen. lol
I really enjoy iron fist! Can't wait for the defenders!! Awesome video bro!!
Heard power rangers was straight trash, I'm still seeing it
@emergencyawesome can you do a video explaining the history of the over all iron fists? and possibly what happens to them after a new iron fist takes the mantle?
personally...i thought iron fist was a lot better than luke cage... luke cage was very hard to watch
ha v what didn't you like about luke cage?
that's my fav netflix show.
Nameless haha that actually made me laugh... yeah your point is valid, even though I'm not black it didn't bother me too much ( the music helped out with that ). the show was still very much enjoyable.
Iron fist was meh, Luke cage was easy too watch.
The newest Marvel Future Fight update added a Netflix costume for Iron Fist and "defenders" characters. These characters are Hellcat and all New ghost rider. Trish Walker and Robbie Reyes are both in the Mcu. This makes me belive that Robbie and Trish Will make an appereance in Defenders.
first!!!!
FlightzZ Gaming no one fucking cares
sarcastic Harambe worshiper you're just jealous
i cant wait for all of them to team up in Defenders. going to be one of the greatest team ups since Avengers 1
Iron Fist 👊 is better than luke cage and jessica jones
King Bartu I agreee yes iron fist is the best, luke cage just got ruined when they killed cottonmouth and ruined his whole build up
Daredevil had great Story and great Action.
Jessica Jones had really good story with ok action.
Luke Cage had really good action with an ok story.
And Iron Fist had good action with good story.
King Bartu it's way better than luke cage but it's not better than JJ
King Bartu nope.
King Bartu Luke Cage kinda got boring I was only able to watch 3 episodes a day because it would get boring with iron fist I was able to finish in 2 days I watched 7 episode in a day
This just came to mind, remember daredevils first vigilante costume had that half balaclava mask or whatever to cover his face? Looks similar to what iron fist has in the comics only in a yellow colour so I wonder if that will come up in an interaction between the two characters in defenders
hey, where'd you get that yellow luke cage picture from
Story - I got the impression they wrote a three episode story, then stretched it to six or seven episodes, then stretched it again to thirteen episodes, but then chose all the wrong filler, and added no spice to the recipe, leaving it a weak, bland, water sauce of a soup instead of the hearty meal I expected. They should have been able to handle the entire RAND Corporation situation, including everything with the Meachums, in the first four episodes, because it was all telegraphed anyway. Everything else should have focused on The HAND, and/or Daniel Rand's relationship with Kun Lun.
Music -- I didn't even notice it. Really. So, I guess you are right.
Martial Arts -- I expect The IRON FIST to be a bit more accomplished. In this, he is almost impressive in some scenes, but the rest of the time he seems rather limited. It seems that he wouldn't be able to handle any of the assassins that have crossed paths with DAREDEVIL. At no point does he get as truly fluid, fully awesome, entirely deadly, as I always imagined the character in the comics. It seems as if the producers did the standard-issue television thing, of slowing down the action so that the audience could see what was happening. That sucks. Because if anything, IRON FIST should instead be the single fastest, quickest reacting, immediately devastating martial artist on television in every single scene. Period.
Ending -- Rather disappointing in that it closed off a storyline that should have been finished in about four episodes, then teased a storyline that should have been shown in the last nine episodes of the first season. Instead, we have to wait for _'The REST of the Story'_. With _'LUKE CAGE'_ I wanted to see another 13 episodes immediately. With _'IRON FIST'_ I might have been fine with six more that actually got to the point, instead of dragging along.
Daredevil>Jessica Jones>Luke Cage>Iron Fist.
The fight scenes seemed lame, except for the drunk master everything else seemed weak and sloppy. Excepted DD fighting but with faster more controlled martial arts.
Hey Charlie, the dead people infront of the gate to Kun Lun, were they killed just before Danny arrived or have they been dead for sometime? Blood looks fresh but that can be because of the cold weather. Yet with snowstorms the bodies should have been covered with snow if they were killed sometime back.
Hey Charlie, Can you (or anyone) explain why Madam Gao turned out to be part of The Hand after all in Iron Fist. In Daredevil S1 & S2 it seemed like Nobu was the leader of the Hand. Gao's organization seemed to be separate (but equally dangerous)? I'm not sure if they addressed this and I just missed it completely?
I enjoyed iron fist season 1 and was looking out for all the nods to the other series. Could you do a video about the status of the Hand, Madame Gao, her relationship with the Hand and how it all figures into the end of iron fist, end of DD s2 and start of defenders? loving it Emergency Awesome keep it up
More on story options for the series, awesome video!
The ending of Iron Fist just proved that the monks didn't need the Iron Fist to protect the gate.
hey Charlie do you think if there will be a reference or cameo of the defenders in the new MCU movies?
I personally would prefer a Heroes for Hire series rather than Iron Fist season 2. I thought Iron Fist season 1 was decent enough, but I kept finding myself saying "Oh, Claire knows someone who could provide some back up for you." Whenever Danny was about to go into a situation by himself or when he needed a lawyer. I realize Hogarth filled the lawyer spot, but I would have loved for Matt or even Foggy to come into the series for that part. Imagine how Foggy would have reacted finding out about the Iron Fist.
As Marvel/Netflix is moving towards Defenders, and Punisher, it looks like they've rushed to bring Iron Fist into the core-group ahead of those. Anyway, we're there now with those forming Defenders.
Something else that needs to be addressed (in S02) is why Danny Rand left K'un Lun. The only hint was Danny saying 'I should've been here', at the close.
i think the reason that DD season 1 worked so well was because it was a tight-knit origin story. I will give Iron fist another try during season two though
Question: Does anyone know what power Gao has? In that one scene she looks like she uses the force and pushes Danny away.
bruh you have a great narrator voice
I don't know why but Bakuto is now one of my favourite villains!
My biggest problem with Iron Fist, that unfortunately Netflix couldn't do about it, is that it felt unoriginal. While watching it I felt like I was reliving storylines from Batman, Iron Man sometimes, and without a doubt Green Arrow. I mean a rich billionaire with dead parents and obscure martial abilities? It just felt I had watching it before idk if its just me. Also the multiple villains was a problem for me. First it was Ward in the corporate world. Then it was madame Gao. Then it was Bakuto. Then it was Harold. Just too busy. Daredevil season 1 executed how a TV show villain should play out