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One way you can make infinite money in Windhelm is by selling the strange amulet to Calixto and pickpocketing it from him to them sell it to him again. His panic over someone finding his amulet sets him in an infinite loop of materializing money to not get caught
I still remember the first time I played Blood on the Ice on the old 360 version. Got to the part he kills the lady in the market place and apparently the game just randomly chooses a woman in windhelm for him to axe. In this case it ended up being the argonian lady who lived outside at the docks, who I had married. So when I got the quest to catch the murderer in the act he just stood in the market for 2 whole days, until my wife walked there from Riften to be murdered in front of like 12 people.
I had this quest and the skeleton key quest bug out and stop me competing each quest completely 😑 there are still there to this day and didn't save for 4 hours beforehand
For those wondering how to solve Blood on the Ice without implicating the mage, show him (the mage) the amulet before talking to the Jarl's servant. He'll point you towards the real murderer. Then you just need to follow Calixto each evening until he pulls out a dagger. As soon as he pulls out the dagger, you can attack him without issue, thus saving the girl, catching the killer, and becoming a hero. If you do it in the right order, the quest doesn't bug out.
Nah it can bug out waaay before that, it's nothing to do with out of order. Mine stopped after the murder in the street, noone would talk about it and update my questline. The house itself was "needs a key"d too I think so I couldn't deliberately go out of order to fix it.
@@Krishnath.Dragon I think before the patch they only get it once you witness the murder or something (which the game didn't think occurred). I remember them not having it
@@hashbrown777 I had to look up a guide to do it because the game doesn't actually tell you how to solve the case or who to talk to, and first time I did it, it borked out because I did things poorly not knowing the solution. But it was possible to do Blood on the Ice correctly even before the first DLC was released. That said, it *is* a Bethesda game, and the quest sometimes bugs out.
Yeah I was all over the wiki and forums. I had to console the key in my inventory because people were saying if you console unlock the door it makes the blood permanent
My 12yr old son suggested for you to try and do a challenge without leaving Winterhold but you can enter the college. He also wanted me to tell you that he really enjoys your videos and always looks forward to your new videos.
Not sure if they ever fixed it, but there are two argonians in the shelter on the docks who are almost always locked in because the dev's didn't give them keys to get out. If you unlock the door and let them out, they have sidequests. One's a skooma addict who will raise your Sneak skill in exchange for stealing a bottle of skooma for him. The other tells you about Tobjorn Shatter-Shield underpaying the argonians and you can go "convince" him to give them a fair wage.
That only leaves Markarth as a walled city to see how much can be done without leaving. For the added challenge, you HAVE to save Margret from the Forsworn in the market.
It's actually really easy to save her, IF, and that's a big IF, it occurs to you to do so. Essentially you have to know the murder's going to happen before you see it start. You can just kill the murderer right away and suprisingly, everyone's fine with you killing him. Now you just have to ask yourself if you really give a crap about the Forsworn Conspiracy or not. (Spoilers: you shouldn't, you get thrown in prison for your trouble, and forced to make a choice about which of two horrible people you want to help. You can try to get both of them killed if you play your cards right, but then your reward is nothing. Otherwise you can get an ok ring or a unique set of ugly armor out of it.)
I kinda want to see him do all towns, or reaches even! I know the borders are hard to draw, but maybe there's some way to do it! 😁 These are so much fun after all!
You can actually save her quite easily if you warp into Markarth through Sanguine's quest. You wake up in the Temple of Dibella and can get to a good position to end him before he starts his stabby plot. Doesn't quite work for Joov's shtick though.
Blood On The Ice is my favorite Skyrim quest because it has so many interesting ideas (like being able to either save all the potential victims after Susanna if you put the clues together yourself, or get several women murdered through inaction or incompetence), but by the Eight, is it broken. Imagine if you could actually do some proper investigating (beyond looking at a bunch of pots)! Unlock multiple suspects that you can accuse! Have some race-based advantages or disadvantages (like struggling to get the Nords to cooperate with you if you're a Dunmer or Argonian, but being able to get some unique intel from the other Dunmer/Argonians if you are)! Use your knowledge of the arcane arts or your connections to various factions to your advantage! It'd be so fun to figure out the pattern of the murders for yourself with a high enough Conjuration skill. Or to ask someone at the College about the amulet. Or to use the murders as fuel for anti-Stormcloak propaganda if you're with the Imperials. Or if people assumed there was a connection between the Butcher murders and Aventus Aretino trying to call the Dark Brotherhood, leading you to the Innocence Lost quest a bit more organically if you haven't already done it. But alas, 'twas not to be.
Bro, we're talking skyrim not LA Noire. Bethesda isn't about to go from NPCs literally saying the dumbest crap ever over and over again, to all of them becoming Ace Attorney characters😂
About free lockpick: they DO actualy give you one for free. But by them I mean the Theive guild. It is in their rules to give one in prison to any member. But in the game you get it regardless if you in or out of the guild. For fact-checking I can't clearly tell from where I know that, but it is in one of the guild books. There one book for signhts and, if I remember correct, another with such thieth rules
These kinds of comments are my favorites in these videos. I'll always miss stuff and try to show my confusion on certain topics in the hopes that someone somewhere has an explanation, even if it's a bit silly
I always had a headcanon that the Dragonborn keeps a lockpick under their tongue at all times in case of emergencies. So the pick you magically have is your emergency stash XD Edit: Spelling
@@AstralKandere Yeah that was pretty much what I assumed hahah. Well, minus the “at all times” part, I figured the Dragonborn put it there after getting arrested. Getting arrested wasn’t their first rodeo, certainly won’t be their last.
For years I thought the court mage was the butcher, and for some reason I just assumed the quest ended there. One playthrough I even killed him as revenge for his victims. It's only in my last playthrough that I realised that wasn't the end of the quest and found the real killer. Sorry Wuunferth :(
While the killer quest can be buggy, it helps to not tell the steward about the amulet and have the court mage arrested. Just confront him on your own and he'll plead his case and help you find the real killer. My guess it the branching paths and time sensitive events are what breaks it so much
The problem is that if you don't take the amulet to Calixto first to be appraised, it's stuck in your inventory as a quest object with no special effects even after completing the quest. Edit: To clarify in this context, it's a "problem" because solving the quest with the above method gives you no reason to ever consult Calixto, similar to the problem Joov faced.
@@greatclubsandwich5612 There isn't. The quest is engineered so that any path requires the Stone Quarter patrol and the attempted murder of uh...Shatter-Shield girl because a quest for the Dark brotherhood has an optional objective to kill another Shatter-Shield girl and influence the Shatter-shield family in a dark way (beyond, you know, killing their daughter). I imagine at some point in development the writers decided they wanted to steer the quest so that it would always have a chance of occurring.
@@ashleyneku5432 I didn’t even think about the brotherhood’s questline possibly interfering. That might be an oversight that put some patched and sloppy code back into the whole mess. Also killing the remaining sister (while optional) is another great reason for a “good” character to kill Astrid in the cabin. Don’t taint Azura’s Star. Don’t join the brotherhood even after effectively killing someone in cold blood for the betterment of orphans. Let the Skull of Corruption be destroyed. Don’t kill some idiot to get the Razor
@@lefdee On that last point, somebody is definitely going to murder that idiot later on for the Razor after he puts it on display for the public, after which they will either split it to pieces again, or use it to murder people. Not a lot of good options there.
The very last video I watched before this was a ranking of adoptable children, which ended with a heartfelt plea to adopt Sofie and take her out of the cold. Then, I watched the opening of your video.
There's actually a house near where I live that was built almost entirely out of stolen lumber. They eventually got caught but it was still really impressive that they finished it beforehand.
You can also go straight to Wuunferth instead of getting him arrested, he will just go straight to telling you to go and wait for the killer to arrive at a certain time and place in Windhelm.
I've recently been doing my own challenge inspired by your playthroughs. It's a challenge where you stay in one settlement in Fallout 4, and trying to build a sprawling community and manufacture items using the Wasteland Workshop DLC. I recommend doing it yourself, as it's super fun and makes you really think!
Maybe the skill reset mod would be better as something like "every in game day, set all skills back by 5 levels". I feel like this would provide a pretty big challenge while also making advancement still possible.
Specifically actual dishes, so no "venison haunch", it has to be one of those honestly really good-looking stews, or something from the Hearthfire oven like the snowberry crostata.
Fun fact! During the Dark Brotherhood questline, if you kill Nilsine and then go into the Shatter-Shield home later, you'll find Tova dead with a suicide note next to her body explaining that she couldn't handle losing another daughter.
Joov's character: "I can't believe how racist these Nords are against Dark Elves? What did we ever do?" Also Joov's character: Goes to jail for assault in his first five minutes of entering the city, steals everything, tresspasses, runs around the city naked. I wonder where the residents of Windhelm are getting these stereotypes. Must've made 'em all up.
You know, it really in flavor that a bunch of thugs are sent after a new Dark Elf in the city looking to gain success, and the guards ignore it. Its almost as if theyre in on it.
Blood on Ice might be the only quest in Skyrim where the quest marker does not tell you all possible options. Confronting the wizard yourself after getting the evidences without talking to Jorleif is the other option.
Even knowing in advance, because I've already done the quest before, that it's Calixto, it's a pain to actually get him found out and prevent at least one murder. Also, you're stuck with the "strange amulet" forever if for whatever reason, it didn't occur to you to sell an important piece of evidence to the prime suspect, then loot it later when you kill him. Some people complain that too often games hold your hand too much on quests; this quest has the exact opposite problem. If you haven't done it before, or just looked it up online, following the quest as intended will actually get you to do it entirely wrong.
I finished Morrowind with pure and utter resentment for the Dunmer. Every playthrough since the first just solidifies that resentment even more. I'm a complete hypocrite though because I feel exactly the same about Argonians as the Dunmer feel about me.
Can I just say, props for being able to take constructive criticism and acknowledging it. I'm happy I randomly stumbled across this channel a few months ago.
Honestly in the years I've played this game, I just almost never end up in jail. I'm certainly not law abiding; it's just that it's really easy to just not got caught if you're reasonably careful.
Same, I just ignore the guards when they say "Wait, I know you" when I have a bounty on my head, you can just straight up refuse to answer and you're good
Hjerim is the best house in the game even over ones you can craft yourself, and it's tied to such a broken quest. Usually when I do a playthrough my entire time goes to trying to unlock Hjerim, and then when I finally, if ever do gain access to it, I've had my fill of Skyrim.
The thing that annoys me is you can't even get the option to buy it if you're stubbornly neutral in the civil war. You have to pick a side. Buddying up with the Stormcloaks is faster because if you choose the Imperials you have to complete the entire questline to get the house.
That NordVPN part would’ve been an amazing segway. Someone please sponsor this man and give him a chance to make another awesome, but next time real, segway.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 You don't even have to show it to Wuunferth. As long as you found it you can give it to Calixto and you can describe to Wuunferth how the Amulet looks. Once you kill Calixto to finish the quest he'll drop the Amulet
I really like your videos. I once tried a challenge where i tried my best to play my character as if i where in the game. I spend my time trying to fish, collect plants and sell them to arcadia, ran away from wolves and tried to play the drum with a bards mod. Couldnt use magic or weapons because i know in real life i could never do such a thing. It was actually not as boring as it sounds because anything could kill me lol
I'm surprised to see that I'm not the only one who loves your content so much to the point where I wanted to try my own region lock challenge. In the spirit of inspiration I tried playing Skyrim without leaving Riverwood, and can now officially say that I milked every last drop of enjoyment out of that tiny village😂
Very rarely these days do I watch a creators videos start to finish but this whole series and most of your videos have me fully intrigued every second. Keep it up man
You can actually find the murderer the right way... by literally accusing the court mage yourself without telling the steward, which starts the alternate take on the quest and spares Susanna. That happens to be the version I found, after on my first playthrough I broke into Hjerim and got out with a cool weird amulet that I enchanted (yeah, there's a version of the necromancer's amulet you can enchant that's SUPPOSED to be a quest item but if you break into Hjerim and the investigation prompts don't activate it's not a quest item yet-- and enchanting it breaks the quest in that it softlocks it and you can never successfully investigate Hjerim).
I always play with the Blood on the Ice Redux mod, so you can get the key to Hjerim before Susanna dies by talking to Captain Lonely Gale, Viola, Adonato Leotelli (the writer staying at Candlehearth Hall), and finally Tova Shatter-Shield to get the key (or open the door via your lockpicking mastery). And afterward, you can buy the House of Curiosities as your own house until you decide to buy/progress enough to get Hjerim.
Man, I am loving these videos. RUclips rec brought me to the Solitude video and I LOST it! This one, with the :detective take" is just brilliant dude. Great work!
I’d love to see you do this in the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion. One of my favorite videos of all time is your Imperial City region-locked playthrough. So what i mean is, more oblivion content please! Thanks for the series.
I was waiting on Windhelm Lmao. Just the other day I did Windhelm myself and ended up having a shit ton of fun 😂 Can’t wait to see how YOUR Windhelm turns out
I've only been watching you for a few days but you're already my favorite TES channel, even game challenge channel, I've never seen editing and pacing quite like this.
I'm glad to see that you had the exact same issue with the Blood on the Ice quest that I did, AND that it still ended up working out in the end. I've heard of some people getting stuck where the next murder doesn't happen and the quest can't be completed. I was able to finish the quest, albeit with some questionable plot holes.
I found your channel like two days ago and I'm addicted to these videos. It's been a while since I've played Skyrim, and your videos have prompted me to break it out again. Also, the L.A. Noire nod in this video made me so happy. A+ job Joov!
somtimes i think that Emil Pagliarulo must have some deep dark secrets about Todd's life to continue to be the lead writer for Fallout and Elder Schrolls
just started a really difficult job and always love watching your vids as a source of comfort. so imagine my smile when i saw that you made a new one of my fav series AND it's 30 mins? bro i really appreciate it, keep up the amazing work
8:15 is the same soundtrack to the Cars ps2 game, so much nostalgia just punched me in the nose after hearing that EDIT: It’s called Radiator Springs Theme
You never fail to entertain, Joov. I've had the roughest couple of days I can remember, but u managed to put a smile on my face, and I appreciate u so much for that.
It has been since Riften that I have been trying to play Skyrim without leaving Markarth. And several months later, even a month after this video went up, I am still broke. But I do have an excessive amount of Dwemer plates.
I do a challenge of my own. the ,,Normal guy" challenge. You have to act completely like a normal NPC. so no screams, sleep regularly. and if you're north, probably no magic. additional restrictions are: no waiting, no fast travel and leaving the city where you live only if it is really necessary. Also no accepting any quests, because you take care of your own stuff. do not go into caves unnecessarily. I went into a full dealer build for this. so every craft and rhetoric... and it pays off pretty well.
I also tried, to do a ,,Normal Khajiit" Challenge. so just traveling, with the Caravans, but it didnt work. they work a bit different. when you dont deload the Area, they wont really leave and thats a big problem, since traveling is the only thing, that provides your Progress. I thought, since you cant get into the Citys, with walls around them... you still can get into Dawnstar and citys, like them, to do your Trading and things, like smithing or stuff. but If they dont move, this dont work, sadly. but maybe, theres a mod for that.
God, I still remember being so excited to sign up for the Stormcloaks my first playthrough (who doesn't want to fight for the rebels?), and then getting to Windhelm and being like... "OH. OH SHIT. WE'RE RACIST AS HELL." 😳😅😭
at least it makes for a good roleplaying element. every time i do the vanilla start i escape helgen with ralof, tell him ill consider joining up with the stormcloaks over the people who just tried to have me beheaded for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then by the time my character has gotten to windhelm and had a chance to interact with more nords theyre like "huh! you guys are all wankers actually" and then fuck off to solitude or high hrothgar instead. i keep meaning to do a stormcloak run and if i do itll probably be the only time i play as a nord lmao
Hey man I found your channel just a few days ago and I’ve watched like half of your videos now at this point. Loving your content! Don’t stop the grind!
No problem! I'm glad people voiced that they didn't like it. It helped me better understand what and why people like these videos. We'll return to Solstheim in the future
Haha I've gotten so used to double tapping at the first sniff of a mention of a sponsor that your NordVPN caught me off guard and now I'm cry laughing. Thanks joov
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Hey Joov, what if, once you're done with all the cities, you did one where you don't enter any cities at all? 😃
Did you really use Micky D's voice without tagging his channel?!?
@@DeepTalksPodcast777 it's in the description
@@maclura maybe it has been updated since the original posting date
One way you can make infinite money in Windhelm is by selling the strange amulet to Calixto and pickpocketing it from him to them sell it to him again. His panic over someone finding his amulet sets him in an infinite loop of materializing money to not get caught
Incredible
Yeah Spiffing Brit taught me how to do that. :D
@@Y0sh1no5am me too lol
He wonders how you keep ending up with it.
Joov sadly did not bother to research this
I still remember the first time I played Blood on the Ice on the old 360 version. Got to the part he kills the lady in the market place and apparently the game just randomly chooses a woman in windhelm for him to axe. In this case it ended up being the argonian lady who lived outside at the docks, who I had married. So when I got the quest to catch the murderer in the act he just stood in the market for 2 whole days, until my wife walked there from Riften to be murdered in front of like 12 people.
Hahahahahha
You married an argonian?
Who tf marries an Argonian?
@@alexx1896 skyrim is a rough place when you're L4L (lizard looking for lizard)
I had this quest and the skeleton key quest bug out and stop me competing each quest completely 😑 there are still there to this day and didn't save for 4 hours beforehand
For those wondering how to solve Blood on the Ice without implicating the mage, show him (the mage) the amulet before talking to the Jarl's servant. He'll point you towards the real murderer. Then you just need to follow Calixto each evening until he pulls out a dagger. As soon as he pulls out the dagger, you can attack him without issue, thus saving the girl, catching the killer, and becoming a hero. If you do it in the right order, the quest doesn't bug out.
Nah it can bug out waaay before that, it's nothing to do with out of order. Mine stopped after the murder in the street, noone would talk about it and update my questline. The house itself was "needs a key"d too I think so I couldn't deliberately go out of order to fix it.
@@hashbrown777 The conspiracy nut in Windhelm has the key. She's the one that originally blames the mage.
@@Krishnath.Dragon I think before the patch they only get it once you witness the murder or something (which the game didn't think occurred). I remember them not having it
@@hashbrown777 I had to look up a guide to do it because the game doesn't actually tell you how to solve the case or who to talk to, and first time I did it, it borked out because I did things poorly not knowing the solution. But it was possible to do Blood on the Ice correctly even before the first DLC was released.
That said, it *is* a Bethesda game, and the quest sometimes bugs out.
Yeah I was all over the wiki and forums. I had to console the key in my inventory because people were saying if you console unlock the door it makes the blood permanent
My 12yr old son suggested for you to try and do a challenge without leaving Winterhold but you can enter the college. He also wanted me to tell you that he really enjoys your videos and always looks forward to your new videos.
I'm late to this but tell him I said hi!
12? I think it’s so incredible that your child plays a game nearly as old as him! Impeccable taste
@@FatHedgie I'm 16 and I've been playing video games since I was 5 those are rookie numbers
@Пыль глотаю hey why you firing at me? where on the same side!
Dude my son is 6 and I had him hooked on it! Still prefers to play skyrim compared to all others!! Dad skills lvl100 🤣
Not sure if they ever fixed it, but there are two argonians in the shelter on the docks who are almost always locked in because the dev's didn't give them keys to get out. If you unlock the door and let them out, they have sidequests.
One's a skooma addict who will raise your Sneak skill in exchange for stealing a bottle of skooma for him. The other tells you about Tobjorn Shatter-Shield underpaying the argonians and you can go "convince" him to give them a fair wage.
Ahh! Shame I missed these...I would've loved to cover the Torbjorn quest
Oh so that's why I can't find them thanks so much for commenting this
Are they the ones with the pirates quest too ? I think it’s in the same area
Yeah I always just picked the lock and let them speak to me while i went back out which caused them to follow me out and then i started the quests
@@Em-fz5uh different door but same docks
losing it over what is essentially “he’s a dilf he gets a pass”
“daddy status” honorable mention
That only leaves Markarth as a walled city to see how much can be done without leaving. For the added challenge, you HAVE to save Margret from the Forsworn in the market.
It's actually really easy to save her, IF, and that's a big IF, it occurs to you to do so. Essentially you have to know the murder's going to happen before you see it start. You can just kill the murderer right away and suprisingly, everyone's fine with you killing him. Now you just have to ask yourself if you really give a crap about the Forsworn Conspiracy or not. (Spoilers: you shouldn't, you get thrown in prison for your trouble, and forced to make a choice about which of two horrible people you want to help. You can try to get both of them killed if you play your cards right, but then your reward is nothing. Otherwise you can get an ok ring or a unique set of ugly armor out of it.)
@@troodon1096 You actually can get both rewards, if you attack M before leaving the passage
I kinda want to see him do all towns, or reaches even! I know the borders are hard to draw, but maybe there's some way to do it! 😁 These are so much fun after all!
You can actually save her quite easily if you warp into Markarth through Sanguine's quest. You wake up in the Temple of Dibella and can get to a good position to end him before he starts his stabby plot. Doesn't quite work for Joov's shtick though.
That's so easy... BUT avoiding starting the Forsworm Cosnpiracy quest is the challeging part...
Blood On The Ice is my favorite Skyrim quest because it has so many interesting ideas (like being able to either save all the potential victims after Susanna if you put the clues together yourself, or get several women murdered through inaction or incompetence), but by the Eight, is it broken.
Imagine if you could actually do some proper investigating (beyond looking at a bunch of pots)! Unlock multiple suspects that you can accuse! Have some race-based advantages or disadvantages (like struggling to get the Nords to cooperate with you if you're a Dunmer or Argonian, but being able to get some unique intel from the other Dunmer/Argonians if you are)! Use your knowledge of the arcane arts or your connections to various factions to your advantage!
It'd be so fun to figure out the pattern of the murders for yourself with a high enough Conjuration skill. Or to ask someone at the College about the amulet. Or to use the murders as fuel for anti-Stormcloak propaganda if you're with the Imperials. Or if people assumed there was a connection between the Butcher murders and Aventus Aretino trying to call the Dark Brotherhood, leading you to the Innocence Lost quest a bit more organically if you haven't already done it.
But alas, 'twas not to be.
Bethesda! Hire this person!
That's not the Bethesda quest then 😅
These are dumb ideas that would've made the quest even more buggy.
@@crazyduplicate first off, they're not dumb, secondly, if Bethesda just fixed their goddamn game then the quest wouldn't be buggy
Bro, we're talking skyrim not LA Noire. Bethesda isn't about to go from NPCs literally saying the dumbest crap ever over and over again, to all of them becoming Ace Attorney characters😂
About free lockpick: they DO actualy give you one for free. But by them I mean the Theive guild. It is in their rules to give one in prison to any member. But in the game you get it regardless if you in or out of the guild.
For fact-checking I can't clearly tell from where I know that, but it is in one of the guild books. There one book for signhts and, if I remember correct, another with such thieth rules
These kinds of comments are my favorites in these videos. I'll always miss stuff and try to show my confusion on certain topics in the hopes that someone somewhere has an explanation, even if it's a bit silly
I always had a headcanon that the Dragonborn keeps a lockpick under their tongue at all times in case of emergencies. So the pick you magically have is your emergency stash XD
Edit: Spelling
@@AstralKandere Yeah that was pretty much what I assumed hahah. Well, minus the “at all times” part, I figured the Dragonborn put it there after getting arrested.
Getting arrested wasn’t their first rodeo, certainly won’t be their last.
For years I thought the court mage was the butcher, and for some reason I just assumed the quest ended there. One playthrough I even killed him as revenge for his victims. It's only in my last playthrough that I realised that wasn't the end of the quest and found the real killer. Sorry Wuunferth :(
While the killer quest can be buggy, it helps to not tell the steward about the amulet and have the court mage arrested. Just confront him on your own and he'll plead his case and help you find the real killer. My guess it the branching paths and time sensitive events are what breaks it so much
The problem is that if you don't take the amulet to Calixto first to be appraised, it's stuck in your inventory as a quest object with no special effects even after completing the quest.
Edit: To clarify in this context, it's a "problem" because solving the quest with the above method gives you no reason to ever consult Calixto, similar to the problem Joov faced.
But if you've already found the real evidence in the butcher's journal, where is the branch of "here is evidence it's him, arrest him?"
@@greatclubsandwich5612 There isn't. The quest is engineered so that any path requires the Stone Quarter patrol and the attempted murder of uh...Shatter-Shield girl because a quest for the Dark brotherhood has an optional objective to kill another Shatter-Shield girl and influence the Shatter-shield family in a dark way (beyond, you know, killing their daughter). I imagine at some point in development the writers decided they wanted to steer the quest so that it would always have a chance of occurring.
@@ashleyneku5432
I didn’t even think about the brotherhood’s questline possibly interfering. That might be an oversight that put some patched and sloppy code back into the whole mess.
Also killing the remaining sister (while optional) is another great reason for a “good” character to kill Astrid in the cabin.
Don’t taint Azura’s Star. Don’t join the brotherhood even after effectively killing someone in cold blood for the betterment of orphans. Let the Skull of Corruption be destroyed. Don’t kill some idiot to get the Razor
@@lefdee On that last point, somebody is definitely going to murder that idiot later on for the Razor after he puts it on display for the public, after which they will either split it to pieces again, or use it to murder people. Not a lot of good options there.
The very last video I watched before this was a ranking of adoptable children, which ended with a heartfelt plea to adopt Sofie and take her out of the cold. Then, I watched the opening of your video.
There's actually a house near where I live that was built almost entirely out of stolen lumber. They eventually got caught but it was still really impressive that they finished it beforehand.
THats cool
Brickaday wannabe
@@Iluvpie6 what’s that ?
That's rlly fucking cool and funny
@@CreamCakes420 man, someone keeps deleting my comment explaining. Look it up.
You can also go straight to Wuunferth instead of getting him arrested, he will just go straight to telling you to go and wait for the killer to arrive at a certain time and place in Windhelm.
I've recently been doing my own challenge inspired by your playthroughs. It's a challenge where you stay in one settlement in Fallout 4, and trying to build a sprawling community and manufacture items using the Wasteland Workshop DLC. I recommend doing it yourself, as it's super fun and makes you really think!
Awesome! If you have any pictures share them with me if you're on Twitter I'd love to see it! :D
Nerdcubed actually did something similar a few years back. Fo4 without leaving sanctuary.
It got dark.
Immediately
Wow! If you end up posting anywhere, I’d love to see!
@@DemonMankeyMan So did Many A True Nerd, I guess nerds think alike!
Stay in your own house challange 26 hours
Maybe the skill reset mod would be better as something like "every in game day, set all skills back by 5 levels". I feel like this would provide a pretty big challenge while also making advancement still possible.
Hey Joov, do you think you can play Skyrim as Gordon Ramsay?
Chefs attire, fork as your weapon, heal with only cooked food, and of course shouts.
This is a really cool concept.
I’d love if his modder replaced the shouts audio with Gordon screaming various things
@@natelax1367 Fus-Ro-Dah < *Fuckin'-Raw!*
Specifically actual dishes, so no "venison haunch", it has to be one of those honestly really good-looking stews, or something from the Hearthfire oven like the snowberry crostata.
"WHAT ARE YOU!?" "An idiot sandwich"
Fun fact! During the Dark Brotherhood questline, if you kill Nilsine and then go into the Shatter-Shield home later, you'll find Tova dead with a suicide note next to her body explaining that she couldn't handle losing another daughter.
This is the first time i've seen the fishing in Skyrim and it's exactly what I expected it to be
Stop the cap!!
@@flamethagod1220 Why, does your hat have legs? Stop it yourself!
@@FurryQueenYT my hat doesn't have legs, tf you on about cheepskate?
@@flamethagod1220 stop the cap
It’s Minecraft fishing
Joov's character: "I can't believe how racist these Nords are against Dark Elves? What did we ever do?"
Also Joov's character: Goes to jail for assault in his first five minutes of entering the city, steals everything, tresspasses, runs around the city naked.
I wonder where the residents of Windhelm are getting these stereotypes. Must've made 'em all up.
And always remember that there is a 100% rate of crime amongst argonians in Solitude.
I love these challenges so much that I have started trying them myself
That's awesome to hear. The beautiful part about trying it out yourself, is that when you get bored you can just leave town XD
The windhelm quest, though…
@@Joov oh, also, try any of the other holds but with the Walled Cities mod
(*evil laughing*)
I did as well, where I had to live in Riften, reach level 10, and get at least 1000 gold. It's a playthrough I'll never forget.
@@Joov You should try playing fallout new vegas without leaving the strip
You know, it really in flavor that a bunch of thugs are sent after a new Dark Elf in the city looking to gain success, and the guards ignore it. Its almost as if theyre in on it.
Blood on Ice might be the only quest in Skyrim where the quest marker does not tell you all possible options.
Confronting the wizard yourself after getting the evidences without talking to Jorleif is the other option.
It actually worked perfectly for me.
yeah i never understood why people don’t just go to the wizard first to ask him his side of the story
Even knowing in advance, because I've already done the quest before, that it's Calixto, it's a pain to actually get him found out and prevent at least one murder. Also, you're stuck with the "strange amulet" forever if for whatever reason, it didn't occur to you to sell an important piece of evidence to the prime suspect, then loot it later when you kill him.
Some people complain that too often games hold your hand too much on quests; this quest has the exact opposite problem. If you haven't done it before, or just looked it up online, following the quest as intended will actually get you to do it entirely wrong.
you can also work with viola and search hjerim together
@@troodon1096 It doesn't help that it's ridiculously buggy and half the time things just don't happen like they're supposed to
To be fair, the racism of Windhelm is trivial compared to the pure and unmitigated racism of the Dunmer.
I finished Morrowind with pure and utter resentment for the Dunmer. Every playthrough since the first just solidifies that resentment even more.
I'm a complete hypocrite though because I feel exactly the same about Argonians as the Dunmer feel about me.
Can I just say, props for being able to take constructive criticism and acknowledging it. I'm happy I randomly stumbled across this channel a few months ago.
Watching you play through "blood on the ice" is actually comedy gold.
I can't believe I've played this game so much and also never seen the Windhelm jail... This is terrifying
Honestly in the years I've played this game, I just almost never end up in jail. I'm certainly not law abiding; it's just that it's really easy to just not got caught if you're reasonably careful.
Same, I just ignore the guards when they say "Wait, I know you" when I have a bounty on my head, you can just straight up refuse to answer and you're good
@@PhongTran-km1mx “I have the right to remain silent”
I always like to play a serial killer play through every, let's say 3rd play through, so I've seen all the jails.
Im never a dirty rebel so I only go to windhelm during the battle of windhelm
I absolutely love the Micky D reference Joov! I love the fact that you guys are friends online, watching you guys play on stream is such a treat!
Hjerim is the best house in the game even over ones you can craft yourself, and it's tied to such a broken quest. Usually when I do a playthrough my entire time goes to trying to unlock Hjerim, and then when I finally, if ever do gain access to it, I've had my fill of Skyrim.
Tbh I’m a baby and it scares me so much that I avoid it at all costs.
The thing that annoys me is you can't even get the option to buy it if you're stubbornly neutral in the civil war. You have to pick a side. Buddying up with the Stormcloaks is faster because if you choose the Imperials you have to complete the entire questline to get the house.
That quest is so broken it doesn't let me finish it half the time lol
Best house in the worst city...
@@greatclubsandwich5612 I love Windhelm just for its chaotic and maze-like layout and stone wall aesthetic
That NordVPN part would’ve been an amazing segway. Someone please sponsor this man and give him a chance to make another awesome, but next time real, segway.
You can present the necromancer amulet to wuunferth before he is jailed and you can prevent the second murder
But how ya get the amulet?
or just sell it 2000 times!!! :D
@@youtubeuniversity3638 You don't even have to show it to Wuunferth. As long as you found it you can give it to Calixto and you can describe to Wuunferth how the Amulet looks. Once you kill Calixto to finish the quest he'll drop the Amulet
I really like your videos. I once tried a challenge where i tried my best to play my character as if i where in the game. I spend my time trying to fish, collect plants and sell them to arcadia, ran away from wolves and tried to play the drum with a bards mod. Couldnt use magic or weapons because i know in real life i could never do such a thing. It was actually not as boring as it sounds because anything could kill me lol
Wow... The transition when the detective arc started cracked me up so much 😂🤣...but it was also very well made
Indeed haha
Your humour and music choice paired with your editing style always makes me smile.
Love your content, keep it coming! 💜
I'm surprised to see that I'm not the only one who loves your content so much to the point where I wanted to try my own region lock challenge. In the spirit of inspiration I tried playing Skyrim without leaving Riverwood, and can now officially say that I milked every last drop of enjoyment out of that tiny village😂
Wth your video is actually top tier insanely impressive my friend
Did you find anything new in riverwood, that you would like to share?
@@rsanghi24 I had to learn the hard way that faendal's a murderer and a backstabber but that's about it
i’m about to watch ur vid based off that guys replies. lol
Very rarely these days do I watch a creators videos start to finish but this whole series and most of your videos have me fully intrigued every second. Keep it up man
The whole murder-in-broad-daylight section was amazing, classic Skyrim
Huge respect for using the Cars game OST. Underrated game
You can actually find the murderer the right way... by literally accusing the court mage yourself without telling the steward, which starts the alternate take on the quest and spares Susanna. That happens to be the version I found, after on my first playthrough I broke into Hjerim and got out with a cool weird amulet that I enchanted (yeah, there's a version of the necromancer's amulet you can enchant that's SUPPOSED to be a quest item but if you break into Hjerim and the investigation prompts don't activate it's not a quest item yet-- and enchanting it breaks the quest in that it softlocks it and you can never successfully investigate Hjerim).
Susanna is already dead before you enter Windhelm..? Tf r u lying for
I always play with the Blood on the Ice Redux mod, so you can get the key to Hjerim before Susanna dies by talking to Captain Lonely Gale, Viola, Adonato Leotelli (the writer staying at Candlehearth Hall), and finally Tova Shatter-Shield to get the key (or open the door via your lockpicking mastery). And afterward, you can buy the House of Curiosities as your own house until you decide to buy/progress enough to get Hjerim.
Man, I am loving these videos. RUclips rec brought me to the Solitude video and I LOST it! This one, with the :detective take" is just brilliant dude. Great work!
Glad you enjoy! Thanks for watching :) More soon!
This is like the best (and by far my favorite) series on youtube, please never stop your videos are amazing.
You don’t understand how much joy hearing the Radiator Spring’s theme from the Cars Video Game brings me. Great choice!
I’d love to see you do this in the Shivering Isles DLC for Oblivion. One of my favorite videos of all time is your Imperial City region-locked playthrough. So what i mean is, more oblivion content please! Thanks for the series.
Half of our usual content, half a scathing review of the Blood on Ice quest. 100% great video.
I was waiting on Windhelm Lmao. Just the other day I did Windhelm myself and ended up having a shit ton of fun 😂
Can’t wait to see how YOUR Windhelm turns out
I will say, with the whole "dark elves are imperial spies" bit, HE WAS RIGHT. Go upstairs in that one shop in the gray quarter
Simply having some imperial armor doesn't make you a spy
In my humble opinion: The house in Windhelm might be the best house you can get base game but the one in Whiterun is the one you visit the most
Cars game theme song was unexpected and appreciated
oh yes, Blood on the Ice. The game is *really* trying it's little heart out to do a branching path thing here, just be nice and play along.
And it succeeds.
@@crazyduplicate its fun but the game is realll bad at doing the branching path thing.
I've only been watching you for a few days but you're already my favorite TES channel, even game challenge channel, I've never seen editing and pacing quite like this.
I think Markarth will be an awesome video! The conspiracy quest, the museum, the Dwemer ruin, etc.
I'm glad to see that you had the exact same issue with the Blood on the Ice quest that I did, AND that it still ended up working out in the end. I've heard of some people getting stuck where the next murder doesn't happen and the quest can't be completed. I was able to finish the quest, albeit with some questionable plot holes.
I found your channel like two days ago and I'm addicted to these videos. It's been a while since I've played Skyrim, and your videos have prompted me to break it out again.
Also, the L.A. Noire nod in this video made me so happy. A+ job Joov!
Me too I love la noire!!
great video as always, was a blast to be a part of
Your edits and the cinematically are always on point! Excellent video!
The music from cars the videogame while fishing at 8:00 really threw me off at first, but I dig it. Another great vid
9:06 Pike is a type of fish but also a medieval weapon. Missed opportunity for a pun.
Oh no you're so right
somtimes i think that Emil Pagliarulo must have some deep dark secrets about Todd's life to continue to be the lead writer for Fallout and Elder Schrolls
just started a really difficult job and always love watching your vids as a source of comfort. so imagine my smile when i saw that you made a new one of my fav series AND it's 30 mins? bro i really appreciate it, keep up the amazing work
Same! I watch him on my break!
The disco elysium bit made me sooo happy. I wish everyone in the world would play that game
8:15 is the same soundtrack to the Cars ps2 game, so much nostalgia just punched me in the nose after hearing that
EDIT: It’s called Radiator Springs Theme
Me too lol. I had almost totally forgotten about that game
I have never heard the cars video game original soundtrack outside of the games. I was entirely not expecting that.
You never fail to entertain, Joov. I've had the roughest couple of days I can remember, but u managed to put a smile on my face, and I appreciate u so much for that.
19:28 That gave me a heart attack hearing the failed die roll, from Disco Elysium! I didn't know you had such amazing taste!
Hey man, just came across your videos a few days ago, I’ve watched a few of them and I love them so far.
honestly your content actually helps me make even more fun in Skyrim
It has been since Riften that I have been trying to play Skyrim without leaving Markarth.
And several months later, even a month after this video went up, I am still broke.
But I do have an excessive amount of Dwemer plates.
A beautifully edited video once again. Great job!
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed :)
the best part ab the film noir bit is that the way windhelm looks doesnt change, just the way the people do
You went from catching The Butcher, to becoming The Butcher. It all came full circle.
Between the Micky D shoutout and the Tropico music, you've earned yourself a subscriber
I do a challenge of my own. the ,,Normal guy" challenge. You have to act completely like a normal NPC. so no screams, sleep regularly. and if you're north, probably no magic. additional restrictions are: no waiting, no fast travel and leaving the city where you live only if it is really necessary. Also no accepting any quests, because you take care of your own stuff. do not go into caves unnecessarily. I went into a full dealer build for this. so every craft and rhetoric... and it pays off pretty well.
I also tried, to do a ,,Normal Khajiit" Challenge. so just traveling, with the Caravans, but it didnt work. they work a bit different. when you dont deload the Area, they wont really leave and thats a big problem, since traveling is the only thing, that provides your Progress. I thought, since you cant get into the Citys, with walls around them... you still can get into Dawnstar and citys, like them, to do your Trading and things, like smithing or stuff. but If they dont move, this dont work, sadly. but maybe, theres a mod for that.
@@outsiderletsplay6910 I'm afraid of how long you must've stood there being like "yall gonna move or what?"
The production quality on all of your videos is bananas! always incredible work.
It’s like 7 at night and I just woke up (my sleep schedule is broken) and this is the best thing to wake up too (other than Ralof)
the song at the end is called "Two Point Hospital OST | Nice Smelling Face [Jasmine Odyssey]"
big thanks, couldn't get it with google or shazam
Nice to see another Joov video!
I was NOT prepared to hear music from the Cars video game...
I don't know if nostalgia has ever hit me that hard...
The Disco Elysium crossover was unexpected but very appreciated. Very good content as always Joov.
I'm sorry but your music choice at 8:00 is beyond incredible, Loved that Cars game.
God, I still remember being so excited to sign up for the Stormcloaks my first playthrough (who doesn't want to fight for the rebels?), and then getting to Windhelm and being like...
"OH. OH SHIT. WE'RE RACIST AS HELL." 😳😅😭
Yeah loved it as well.
at least it makes for a good roleplaying element. every time i do the vanilla start i escape helgen with ralof, tell him ill consider joining up with the stormcloaks over the people who just tried to have me beheaded for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then by the time my character has gotten to windhelm and had a chance to interact with more nords theyre like "huh! you guys are all wankers actually" and then fuck off to solitude or high hrothgar instead.
i keep meaning to do a stormcloak run and if i do itll probably be the only time i play as a nord lmao
Hey man I found your channel just a few days ago and I’ve watched like half of your videos now at this point. Loving your content! Don’t stop the grind!
Thanks for watching! :) Welcome
Can I just say how much I loved that the ‘rightful owner of Skyrim’ Nord is literally a Basement Dweller watching Micky D? 🤣
Thank you so much addressing the skill reset thing. And I really want to see the video again without skill reset thing
No problem! I'm glad people voiced that they didn't like it. It helped me better understand what and why people like these videos. We'll return to Solstheim in the future
Why do I feel like I've heard that song in the beginning of the video 0:10 can somebody tell me what song it is and where it's from?
I shazamed it
Through the trees halo infinite
It's from this video. Which came out about 2 years ago from now
@@GDoggo It was from halo before it was in this video.
@@wizenedoak5046 ah ok. So this video was in halo?
@@GDoggo Sure let's go with that. 😆
NordVPN missed out big time on that throw in advertisement
Hey you, you're finally awake. It's time for another Joov Skyrim video.
Nah i think i will go back to sleep
You're videos have gotten so damn good, well-edited, and all-around wonderful. Great job, dude!!!
thanks for the amazing videos joov! hope you have a good day :)
I just noticed the music Joov used in the edits is also in the old Cars GameCube game, and my childhood reignited
Can you beat Skyrim without being racially categorized by an NPC?
Impossible
@back2thedrawingboard852 no it is... sneak kill anyone with negetive lines...
OMG the freaking radiator springs theme, why do you make my poor heart ache for the good ol' days, Joov?
Once again, a great video!
It was uploaded 3 minutes ago you already finish it?
@@blitzcrank1out841 LOL i was thinking the same thing
@@blitzcrank1out841 Yeah, I watch in 2 times speed
Gods, it's really impressive to the extent you will go with this series. I absolutely hate this place because of how *cold* the people seem.
Finally I’m early on a Skyrim video let’s goo
These videos are genuinely so funny. Like bro your super creative and put out great content. Keep up the good work!
Skyrim belongs to the nords
That nord vpn joke was genuinely so funny it’s a shame you weren’t actually sponsored
Another video! I've tried my own glowing sea and it's going terrible
Awesome! What's giving you trouble? Gameplay wise it's been the most fun location so far for me
True pain cannot be felt until you start a challenge this hard
Going to the sentinel site
Outside all the enemy's hurt and half of my 5 Part suit is broke
Haha I've gotten so used to double tapping at the first sniff of a mention of a sponsor that your NordVPN caught me off guard and now I'm cry laughing.
Thanks joov
LOL it was good fun to include and sorta wrote itself