Built Jeeps Vs SxS Challenge! Rock Crawlers vs Stock ProR, Speed Utv!
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Fun day rock crawling on the trails right outside of the beautiful Lake Havasu City! Jeep vs SXS. We've wanted to do this comparison for a while now and finally got it done! Richard with Guiboa Motorsports led us to some great rock crawling spots to test out these amazing side by sides we have. I think the side by sides did really well for the size of tires we have. Speed has a torque limiter, that's what that awful sound was! Chad still made it up almost everything. Fun day with friends! Subscribe to see the next big adventure!
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I’ve gotta lie, that Speed UTV is an absolute beast!
😂😂😂 I hope this is a sarcastic comment
@@christianpitts1727Read carefully 😂
@@hotshtsr20 read more carefully this time😂😂
If someone gave me a speed I’d sell it before even starting the pile of garbage
That was pretty fun! The Pro R 4 did pretty well on 32s. WIll do much better when I get my 35s on. Besides a few small side rashes, I did take one pretty good hit to the trailing arm gusset mounting collar but I was able to bend it back out with some heat and a pry-bar. Good times!
Nice fix
Speed wins with the most attempts.
Wow the utvs held there own. The pro r did I guess
You guess? It's on 32s vs 40s. It would have walked all the obstacles if it was on >35s, the only thing it ever got hung up on was breakover angle.
That speed utv is a game changer 😮😮😅😅
What video was you watching. I have not seen one yet. That shows it is game changing.
@@snoop8093apparently you don’t understand sarcasm
Love the content! I know Robby said they had a lot of Nannies built into the buggy that could be adjusted later. Sure hope they get that corrected for you. While the Nannies are great, the current settings seem very intrusive.
They’re rental Toyota Camry levels of intrusive
@hotshtsr20 I don't know if they're that bad, lol, but I sure didn't like what I saw of them in the video.
Yeah, Robby should have concentrated a little bit more on the rest of the car and not just suspension and chassis. The rest of the car is junk.
Put the pro R tires on the jeeps and see how good they do
Actually the balder the tire the better for crawling! Those tires would do good if they could hold up the the weight of the jeeps
You guys need to reach out to the other SXS channels. You deserve way more subs. Dallin , you are going to be one deaf grandpa. The only time I open my exhaust is at Olds.
Ya none of them wanna play ball
Not surprised
Your taking basically stock side-by-side up against rock crawlers. Let’s see some stock. Jeeps get out there and do what you’re doing.
I just said the samething. Good eye
Ok take a stock krx and watch it go…..
Tell us the speed sucks without saying it. lol
Its not designed for the rocks. Its a high speed desert rig. The Bandits wheelbase would work a lot better. But they definitely need to be clutched lower and the torque limiter doohickey needs to be tighter.
@@jimmace6148 that was not a wheelbase issue. The speed couldn’t pull its self in the rocks. The wheels were not spinning. Pror 4 seat did that one spot with his eyes closed.
@@jimmace6148 it’s funny I didn’t see that four seat Pro r having any problems. You guys should have a lot of excuses trying to defend that pile of junk.
@@snoop8093The 4 seat Pro R skipped almost all of the tough obstacles, so we really don’t know what it would do. My guess is that in rock crawl mode it would have done very well, but still bottomed out on the high clearance issues.
Pretty cool trail. Would love to take my 2015 Teryx 4 on that ride. Lifted on 30s. Its slow but it's a billy goat.
Is that a ratchet style limiter? Sounds god awful
Yeah it’s like an impact gun
I'm not going to lie a little disappointed in the speed. I get the size and all but not being able to pull its self in a no for me.
Cause it is designed for baja not rock crawling.
@@joeyl6911 your saying its a one trick pony? Last I check baja had rocks
I think I watched a few at king of the hammers. So there's that, Chad's failed miserably!
Ive never rock cralled in the dessert but i feel like taking the belt cover off made things worse. Dust and crap gets on belt and its over. But again just speculing lol. East coast rider talking smack about west coast crawlers hahahah.
Great video guys, nice job.
Ya cover on is recommended but if he leaves it on it melts the belt in 40 miles and he is sick of buying belts. It is starting to get expensive
The Speed car is just junk!!
That hole claimed 2 axles and a head light and tail light one night for me lol probably mine your talking about😂
Lol
Man cant believe u dont have more subs...!! you guys put out great videos..!! Chad my friend i dont know how i feel about Speed vehicles. Your old xrc i think would of made it alot easier then the speed..the sounds that thing makes would make me sick in the gut bud..!!! Thanks for putting these kind of videos out so people can see how they really work..!! Dallin your pro sounds awsome compared to any other ones I've herd...!!!
Thanks appreciate the support. I really like showing the difference between cars even jeeps or sand cars and utv brands.
I think it’s important to have a comparison sxs to relate it with.
Crawling in the Pro R is the most fun!
I think in all around desert play the sxs win every time, for technical crawling a jeep all day.
Hey speed is tiawanni Chinese what ever veitnam cheep quality steel its all crap
Unfortunately all of the top units are built overseas and shipped here. What brand do you like best?
Speed click clank sounds horrible
Awesome video. Really enjoyed this one.
Awesome, thank you!
Nice shirt Rich…. My HERO
As always. The great content is appreciated, one day I’ll see you guys in glamis to go out for a rip to duners dinner and lunch on me 👍🏼👊🏼
Awesome hope to see you out there
Keep hearing people called Speed UTV's junk. I find that kind of funny, 50% of production Speed UTVs then enter King of the Hammers finished verses 32% of the heavy modified other brands of UTVs. No manufacturers have ever hit it out of the park on a new design and they all break everything, transmissions, driveshafts, belts, tierods, axles and ball joints. I'm not say Speed is the best out there but they need to be given a fair shake and time to get yhe bugs worked out before passing judgment on them.
To be honest, everyone was surprised that the Speed made it through all the obstacles. It’s a desert car not a rock crawler. There were other cars that took multiple tries, but I guess seeing the speed struggle is what everyone wants to see on this channel
Wouldn’t have taken my car on this adventure and destroy it.
The Speed is fuking junk, I love the grinding with no front wheel drive.
Chad were you mostly in 2nd gear? Did first gear make much of a difference? That torque limiter sucks if not?
He was in first gear
1st gear the whole time
The Speed car is whack as F...!
Wuhan Factory lol
What manufacturer is not overseas?
@@UTV-APolaris is in Northern Midwest, and one plant in Mexico.
Can Am is Northern Midwest, Canada, Mexico, or Europe.
Honda is SC
Kawasaki is NE or MO
Yamaha is Georgia
So, all of them except Speed/Hisun?
@@hotshtsr20 Don't really matter where they are made they all using majority of Chinese parts anyway, right ? LOL
@@milosusa Kinda really does. 100% Chinese manufactured parts assembled by Chinese workers in China is a lot worse than some Chinese parts assembled by NA workers.
I doubt the Chinese parts content is in the majority for the other manufacturers. Logistics just doesn’t work well for it. I’m sure there are still a lot, but definitely not all or even most.
I see you have a few smart ones on the crew, wearing helmets.
Ya high speed we usually always run a helmet
We did yahoo and rattler today they put so many bypasses on hard obstacles it’s not good .
I’d like to know the build list on the speed utv buggy please. Would give me a good idea of what to not do!
Tried with stock clutches aftermarket clutches big tires small tires. Either way it does same thing. What not to do is rock crawl with a speed
One of these is a turd burgler...
Its all about wheelbase.
Frank!!!
That speed car is junk
Thank you, lol!
Your front clutch pack is shot either put a slug in there or it needs a couple more plates or replacing. Slipping way too much.
Hey that's a robbie special
*rzr 800 on roids
@@Chingon1westit’s all torque limiters…
I know it’s an unpopular opinion but the speed falls short of the hype
I don’t think it’s unpopular at this point
I have to be honest, considering all of the crap that Robbie has talked about how this car is going to dominate everything. I am really glad to see. It is a piece of junk just because he talks so much crap. Maybe he should’ve done like all the rest of the UTV bill keep your mouth shut. Don’t show the card to anybody until it is ready to be released.Robbie is getting what he deserves.
I’m probably the only one to take the Speed in these chunky nasty rocks. As the later numbers come out, I think the reviews will get better and better.
Not your typical UTV more like an off road car/trophy truck…
@@UTV-A so one trick pony for conditions most people will not put it through. not too many people gonna buy a side-by-side to take out in desert race. so far all the conditions people have been putting it through. It has pretty much failed. maybe Robbie should take notes from other builders and don’t show or brag about the car until it is ready to be released.
Hey @desertsxs
quick question i want a Maverick R but trying to decide if the smart shocks are worth the extra money, thoughts?
Check out the LSK suspension build. It’s a non-Smart shock car with upgraded arms and king shocks. Had I had the chance to do it over again, I’d go that route!
I don’t think so imo if I did it again I would have bought the lower models. After doing mts the modes feel more different but not crazy diff
Ok thanks for the reply, so maybe
R X RS model without smart shocks is the way to go then? I have to think it is worth it to have the 3.0 shocks on the car, unless you were saying that maybe the 2.5” shocks were good enough? if so maybe I’ll look at the RX model 🤨
@@Concretehardt mts told me the other shocks are still really good
I don’t think anybody expected the Speed to be exceptional at rock crawling (hello a desert race designed it) Despite all the salty viewers 😂 I love my speed. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.
I love my Speed #97 too! The car is awesome! Just saw a new Dyno test and the updates have majorly improved horsepower!
Currently own a x3 and in the market for another SXS . My question is ProR or Speed?
Depends on your riding style. If you are doing a little bit of everything then pro r hands down. If you are duning a lot mavr
Unless you are down to do a turbo kit on the pro r then pro r
You might wanna watch some more videos on speed before you even consider that. This is not the only video speed has failed in.
Have you considered the Maverick R?
@@ferminflores279 I think the mav r is worse than the speed. I honestly think it's the worst utv ever made. I'd go x3 or pro r. Mav r is straight garbage. Btw I got receipts on that.
Pro r is the best in the market and that’s coming from an x3 owner. I would also lean towards a maverick R
Your pro sounds amazing. The Speed is shit box.
Smokin belt Speed....so glad I canceled
Man that Speed UTV is always breaking something . That thing is complete garbage.
Ya it struggles for sure
Is that sound on the speed the belt skipping? Sounds like hes grinding gears all the time.
Our understanding is that it is the torque limiter
@@desertsxs i wonder if robby tested the car without it to see if it really needs it.
Safety feature, not stoked on it, but I guess it does it’s job….
@@____MC____ Robbie has tested the car to be a one trick pony.
seeing the speed with the clutch cover off is kind of cringe when it's structural!
Dallin are your Tensors 33s?
I wanna say 35s but can't tell. If he went out rock crawling on 33 desert tires I'm done watching these videos lol
Yes they are See ya motorcycle lol
@@desertsxs they are 33s!?
@desertsxs if your out playing around I don't care but your repsenting against crawlers man and you came way under prepared. Off all people I figured you would have a set of paddles, Desert tires and rock tires. You should buy a pair of 35 zillas I love myn.
I wouldn’t judge the speed car by this…..dude isn’t using it correctly. You got to snap the throttle a little to get the secondary clutch spinning and locked into the belt (on any belt drive atv/utv unless it has a wet clutch as well Kawasaki and Yamaha use them) trying to ease into the throttle with the machine in a bind won’t do anything other than burn the belt up. Plus, the cover need to be on it. Clutches will run cooler with it and the cover has outer supports in it.
They said he adjusted the clutch at the beginning of the video and has larger tires on it. That might cause some of the issues as well.
Cool car.
Dadgum Pro R seemed to do alright. Needed sway bars disconnected badly. Lol
In a previous video Chad tried to the crawl with the speed similar issues with stock clutch and tires. He also was revving it up and trying to launch but still similar issues before he could finish the obstacle. I will say find a speed owner and do the same trail I’ll bet he struggles more because Chad is willing to push it when most people would bail out. Also the cover is off because it overheats so easy and bakes the belts.
Nope, that wasn’t the issue
Quit making excuses for Speed UTV! There's something totally wrong with that engine, transmission, limiter or whatever else is going on with it! 😂
The Pro R is a Beast!
1st
Speed utv makes very safe dom cage and chassis 4130 suspension score legal off road race utvs just add door bars and fuel cell.
Yes it’s a much better utv for those races
@@desertsxs 💯.and did well at koh. With a production sxs.
@@techs1smh13 yes but I don’t think there utv has the same safety features as the customers do. Or they would of struggled a lot more in the rocks like this one or anyone’s in difficult rocks
@@desertsxs robby said stock except tires were 35 tires.will never know
@@techs1smh13 who gives a shit how many people to buy side-by-side to go desert racing. and besides that Can-Am and Polaris are doing good at KOH also. So that doesn’t mean shit. The car is failing at everything else. you guys need to stop trying to defend Robbie. He never should have talked all the shit he did, and never should have released the car until it was ready. He’s getting what he deserves.
Every video that comes out makes the speed look worse and worse. Pure trash
😢 You guys are hurting my feelings about my Speed car! Haha just kidding! We learned a lot that day about the drive train, and torque limiter as a safety feature to save the rear differential.
It’s too long to be a full out Rock Crawler. At the end of the day the Speed pulled off the most obstacles out of any of the UTV’s
It’s a blast to drive, and the plastics are very tough considering what I put it through…..
Looks like all of them did better than the speed. Speed also had to get winched out. Pro r did all of them. Pro XP beat all of you
I don’t know what happened to that pror 4seat but it definitely out climbed the speed in that one spot.
I understand you was in the car driving so you must’ve missed what all the other side-by-side was doing because they did way better than what you did.
It's weird that chupacabra's car didn't seem to slip the torque limiter in his rock crawling videos. I'm wondering if your stuff is a little loose or weak. Is it a mechanical torque limiter or electronic? I'd be asking speed about it because it seems to be a little excessive.
😂
I was the King Of The Hammers 2024. The speed car had four cars and they did not do good and the races. Most of them broke down or not even qualified for the finish too bad speed car.
Ya dissapointing for sure