The testing of this engine during development was done on glider, once they did high altitude test and reached 8000 meters (26 246 feet) with that ruclips.net/video/AibrkkBkGuI/видео.html
uh... the ammount of lift those wings give, you could probably use pedal power to fly it... and YES it has been done before, and yes, it was a very ultralight aircraft just like this.
@HiWetcam Would the Turbine powered glider make a nice private plane to fly around the airport vicinity with, for example, take off in Oakland, CA, fly 15 miles west to San Francisco and return to Oakland? What's cruising speed of the glider in powered flight?
God bless the folks at Sonex for these wonderful developments. I particularly feel, with their efforts, general aviation will gain more attraction in the new generation!
....only problem with Glider is the extra man-on-the-ground launch system....where does one get that extra person...? ....seems, on its face, to be an inconvenience....
glider/jet combo has potential, not just as a small jet trainer but in its own right. Think about it, use the motor plus thermals to get up to altitude and then glide to your destination. Combined with the natural characteristics of a glider, a low weight low drag powerful powerplant could really come into its own. Also jet engines run more efficiently at high altitude, and gliders look built for it. Brilliant really.
Looks like a common idea in the comments. i was thinking how i like the glider more while watching. Considering you cant shoot anyone down in the smaller faster more maneuverable jet whats the point.
@steal threaded you comment make no cents Whats is "Because" of? Are you expecting a thanks to ur point that Flying and Killing are two different things? The greater interest in the glider is because Of energy fuel and range management. ur welcome
@@tbyte007 Chezzzk Reeepubic its a eastern youarepeeing country not best known for quality besides there womon im sure you understand even if spelling is bad thanks for sharing
@@savagex466-qt1io Oh you mean the quality in the american penal colony is better ? Like Boeing which 737 dig 10 meters holes in the ground killing everybody ? DW did interviews with the workers of 777 plant and they said that they will never fly their family in the planes they are building ... And where did you hear about the bad EU quality ? You pulled it out of your dumb ass ?
@@jennydiazvigneault5548 Very true, "Time waits for no man" an old Irish saying my Great Grandmother would tell me as a child. Thanks Joseph for reminding me, I appreciate it.
I know right. I love glider flying but hate having to depend on someone and/or something else to get you up. I think they are selling the wrong product. Forget the Sonex, give me a glider with a stow-able jet!
Tristan MacRae I think if they can have two trailer wheels on the wingtips you can aluminate the extra hands on deck so to speak have a viable product. If no one’s done it already I think it adds just a few thousand dollars to the package but I could be wrong
I'd take the glider all the time! Imagine a modern twin glider like the DG1000, the Duo Discus or some Alexander Schleicher designs and this turbine engine instead of a noisy two stroke with a foldable prop as starting, climbing or coming home aid!
The jet-powered glider reminds me of one I saw at an air show in Kingman AZ in 2006. I believe they said they had mounted an engine from a jet helicopter on a glider. Took off under its own power and performed stunts. Turned off the jet and glided during acrobatics. Then turned the jet back on and gained altitude for more acrobatics. Was amazing!
People complaining about fuel usage just dont seem to get the fun factor with this plane. It looks well engineered and the jet engine is compact and sophisticated. If fuel usage is the big deal, drive your Prius to the airport to make yourself feel better.
@@DinoAlberini Right? Personal aircraft is not a poor mans hobby. I have a friend that owns his own small plane. It's a blast and he can afford it. Its a prop plane along the lines of an Alaska bush plane. We take off and fly for an hour or so and land at remote lakes in northern Nevada. Fish for a few hours and back home. It would take half a day to travel there by truck.
The ME163 was in fact rocket powered. It required two separate fuels which were corrosive to human flesh and extremely explosive. Not an aeroplane for civil flying. There is a least one replica flying but this is a glider and is aerotowed. This is how they trained the pilots in WW2. The ME163 is based on the Horten flying wings
I love that glider, i think the glidee would be even more awesome with a twin jet setup, and twin horizontal mounted like the a10 in the sub sonex. and twin seater side by side setup too.
What sort of range does the kit jet plane have? Would be awesome to use it to fly across country, but by the look of the size and weight I'm doubting it. I also heard you say cruising at 17,000 ft? That aircraft is pressurized and there's oxygen on board or is that still low enough to forego pressurization? I know you need oxygen though. Does that small jet engine have an issue with longer duration flights if you were able to pack more fuel on or would it be fine? I would absolutely love to see a little bigger kit plane with two of those jet engines that could go cross country and wasn't all that sport focused.
From what I've read on this, the engine uses 20gph @ cruise and has a 40g tank cap. So 2 hours of flight... annnnd I've lost the info on the cruise speed...
@@harleyme3163 Lol did you actually read my comment or.....? I specifically say "I know you need oxygen." And not to nitpick, but it's actually over 12,500 feet where oxygen is required and after 30 minutes. Small planes fly at 10,000 feet all the time no problem with no supplemental oxygen aboard.
Very cool X 2! Just like everyone else, I thought the jet powered glider was really impressive. But I want that jet! ✈️ Ever since my first flight in my grandparents home-built airplane, I tried to talk to my grandfather who built it, a BD-4, into building the 5 or 10 next, with the jet engine. Unfortunately, they weren't very safe and it was a project that was I was never able to talk him into. This certainly gives the GA community a new option, and hopefully I convinces other companies to build/offer something similar!
Sonex, I have a thought that I think is worth developing. Considering that the jet converted glider is a two seater, wouldn't it be possible to develop a removable range extending fuel tank that fits in the rearmost seat when a passenger isn't present? That'd give you the possibility to bring along an extra 80 or so KGs of fuel, rendering the plane more useful as a tiny jet. The only thing missing for return flights would be a balance solution for the starting without a bystander holding the wing which in itself could be solved with an add-on developed in less than a week on a plane with interchangeable wingtips. I used to fly a Glaserdirks 1000, but what cost me my interest was the abundance of people required to be present; A pilot who tows, someone to hold the wing, etc. The biggest drawback of gliders is that you can't make return flights as you can't expect any other airport than the one your flight origins from to keep this equipment and manpower. The only time a range extending tank were to be removed would be when the craft should be flown with a passenger, but at that point, the passenger is present, so even a full tank would be fairly easy to lift out if handles are provided. With the right design, it could be strapped down with the harness already present for the pilot. If I had the right experience and resources I would develop this for myself. It would be the ultimate recreational jet. Small bulks inside the tank would solve any problems with imbalance due to aggressive flying, and a connector resembling the ones usually find on motorbikes would make the installation progress a breeze. Cheers!
Carbon fiber skis on the wings, and only takeoff and land on grass. Problem solved. They can be designed to have little to no drag and just be tall enough to keep the tips from digging into the ground. Once it picks up any speed on takeoff it should level out easily.
You can do a wing runner take off, self launchers where I fly do them often, and they self rig meaning it takes no crew except yourself. Even with a DG1000, I've briefed a passenger, hooked up the glider, and then did a no-wing-runner take off, no requirement for anyone but a tug driver.
Caproni ,the Italian aircraftcompany builded 5 two seater gliders with internal Jet engines in the 70's . Ing Ferrarin and Sonzio made that side by side seater ,all aluminium , 2 wheels with suspension.
if I had a lot of money I def would. buy this guy this thing is awesome man that engine has like 80% percent power output on that glider its so efficient that it can Bring those gliders just shy of 300mph thats insane for a 40lb engine.
I really don't get why small jets weren't the go to instead of a cessna 172 back in the 80's. The state of civilian aviation is just sad, we're 50 years behind schedule.
Because Jets are horribly fuel inefficient and are much more difficult to maintain. Also, there are already enough noise complaints due to regular engines, GA would be dead if everyone just used jet engines.
Perhaps if we weren't so short sighted and had focused on jet technologies since oh say... the 60's... We'd have those problems sorted. We could be used to jet performance and perhaps be flying jet electric hybrid tech by now instead of thinking Cessnas with glass cockpits are modern. Like I said 50 years behind schedule.
@@matthewprentiss1460 There is no money and volume in the GA market, that's the reason why we're still using engines designed in the 50's. Jet engines already had a shitload of money poured into them by the military and commercial market, and they did get more reliable and affordable, which is the reason why systems like the subsonex jet or the jet gliders can even exist. But it is still far from practical. The future for GA are electric engines, as range isn't a big issue for flight schools and recreational fliers.
Sure but my point is instead of the current thinking which is there is no money, what if there had been funds in say the National aeronautics and space administration leading the charge into research way back in the 60's. Think of how much further along we'd be. We just need to make ga a nasa priority.
Another few years and Electric Ducted Fans will probably take over for gliders. Schubeler already makes a 195mm EDF capable of 56lbs thrust for ~$3200. 2 of those is more than enough to get a glider off the ground. Hell one could probably power a small ultralight. Won't be much longer and we'll have 250mm+ EDFs pushing 75 lbs of thrust or more.
love them both the glider and the subsonex sport jet jsx-2 ..thank's for sharing the video cheers from mexico brother..wish i could come out there to NM and see it fly in person one day...maybe you should come to the FAMEX2020 next year and promoted it!! it would be good for your business..thnx anyways..sorry if im out on my english spelling..
Bad ass plane! Oh and the engine is awesome. My brother built one of those and put it on a scooter and all sorts of welding fabrications! It went about 55 mph on the ground!
It looked like the engine was "stowed" almost immediately after shut down. Is there a heat problem with enclosing a hot engine? I love that glider jet engine combo!
I assume the panels are coated with heat resistant material but fiberglass and heat just don't mix ... Glider is painted white for a reason.... I'd be scared to do that for sure
Ive often thought of some kind of powered glider with an external cargo bay at the back, allowing access to the most remote regions. I'm sure these guys could do it, a high efficiency light transport
I like how the flight instructor gives the plane a few quick parts before the guy solos. Every flight instructor knows what that means…..don’t be creative, fly just how we trained.
@@andyburk4825 looked fine to me plus there are other factors like wind and turbulence also i believe at the time this video was made it was still a prototype so there may be some thing to sort out.
The design can be improved by integrate the jet inside the aircraft body. The air intake can be an open space beneath the aircraft body that can be done and it is more aero dynamic.
Oh my this needs to have like twin turbines on it. I can’t think of the company off the top of my head but the turbines weigh like 30 pounds but produce about 350 pounds of thrust. The next largest is like 50 pounds and produces 475 pounds of thrust. Twin turbines would make this thing zing across the sky!
imagine that this one on the picture has second on the other side, so three all together :D www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b&biw=1904&bih=931&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=Q6h6XOKQHuGNmwW07K64Cw&q=bede+bd5j+twin&oq=bede+bd5j+twin&gs_l=img.3...44931.46305..48097...0.0..0.68.323.5......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i24.ik4MM12Cpwg#imgrc=A7Zqd724Klb_LM:
Semper Fortis It’s been overbuilt I’m sure. A few modifications and I’m sure it can handle another turbine. Wing mounted turbines or even two on the tail like an A-10 would be cool. We can call it the Mini Cross of Death. Put a 5.56 mini gun in the nose.
Trhac je_M, thanks for providing pertinent and relevant info in response to the lady’s query. I really like this concept in personal aviation, because at the speed it will cruise at, depending on how much fuel it can carry could allow considerable distances in a reasonable amount of time.
- I am truly impressed by the effort and work you are providing on this plane project, but I have a slight criticism. It is a plane with straight wings. It is true that it gives the plane stability at slow speeds, but it is not made for maneuvers. - The simplest example is at 5:30 You can notice that the wing was affected in a different way than the fuselage, and if it was affected with a greater force, it could have been damaged and would have caused an efficiency problem. I did not have the opportunity from all angles to monitor the behavior of the wings during aerobatics, but I advise you to change the shape of the wings to ensure that no problems occur in the future, so wings Such as Delta Wing Shape or Swept Wings It will give the plane stability at high speeds, as well as strength and endurance during maneuvers and aerobatics. - I liked the idea of V-shape tail I believe that because of it, the plane was able to make all these movements, but if you decide to follow my advice, it is better to keep it in its shape with the addition of horizontal stabilizer flat with the surface of the delta shape wings or just put a twin tail dont forget to make all the horizontal stabilizer work as an elevator . - If you could give me some authority to study all the information you have collected on this project, I can direct you to the best choices for making an aircraft that reaches tremendous speeds and is also stable, whether at low or high speeds, while ensuring its efficiency in maneuvers and aerobatics, without forgetting the safety of the pilot and passengers. - All of this information that I presented came from my experience in the field of aviation engineering, especially Soviet aircraft such as the Su-30MKA and Sukhoi Su-27, also training ones like Yak-130 and L-39 . . But I do not have any certificates in the field of aviation. Only as an amateur I used to approach the places of these aircraft to study their shape and how they work with such solidity and fluidity, while asking questions to those in charge of the military and civilian facilities. I also had real-life experiences by flying alongside the pilot to see and observe how each piece worked. From planes. - in the past two years, I have been working on a project to manufacture a small aircraft, meaning enough for one person, but with the ability to reach a speed goal of 800 km per hour and a smooth ability with ease of control, which means stability. Then I can work on Range and Economics. . The problem is that I do not have the tools with which I can achieve my goals, such as a CNC milling machine, or even a place to set up my experiments in. Therefore, I gave up on my dream, but my interest is still based on it. You have truly inspired me, and I said, “If you are unable to reach your goals due to lack of conditions, just help Those who want to reach it and have the conditions available to do so.” - Thank you, with all due respect. I wish you every success in the future.
Would the Turbine powered glider make a nice private plane to fly around the airport vicinity with, for example, take off in Oakland, CA, fly 15 miles west to San Francisco and return to Oakland? What's cruising speed of the glider in powered flight? I don't need to go anywhere fast or long distance as the view below is what's cool around here.
I genuinely want one of these for myself! To my knowledge, I don't require a pilot's license for one I Texas where I live just a driver's license. I can use this for going from place to place here in Texas pretty easily too so if I have a business trip, I can take my jet. I have to ask though, as a newbie, how bad are the Gs, is it like flying in a commercial aircraft or is it less so?
You mention the fact that wants you to have jet time before you can get signed off. How much time do they want you to have, and what type of jet time is acceptable? How do they expect you to get the training? There always has to be someone that is not trained that has to be first. How do they determine that this person needs this training to do this but this other person needs this other training before he can do the same thing? Thanks.
This looks like a safer form of aircraft, yeah, they didn't have any of these new age jet engines back in the . I actually 'dreamed' a form of this aircraft one night long ago , 1983, probably stress related dream of wanting to go home for the weekend quick, no formal airport, took off from my back yard and made a night flight home ,to get my head together, I'd just got out of navy boot camp and schools and so in this crazy dream I flew in something small like this , real cozy, comfortable and quiet , but flew smooth and quickly 300-400 mph in the dream not really fast but fast, but really controllable , like really really controllable , like you didn't need much special training to operate it, like a car, weird
Improve the thrust on the jet engine and you can use these to take off and land on a specialized sub. These can be used for quick air support with miniaturized baby tomahawks.
It's crazy how accessible something like that jet engine is. I mean, I know it's not CHEAP, but it's not outrageously expensive, either. From what I've been able to find, you can typically either buy a jet with the TJ100 already on it for around $60k or you can buy the TJ100 by itself for $60k. So it makes little sense to buy the engine by itself. That's the cost of a new truck or SUV. And if you can manage to find a modified glider for sale used, then you're likely to get a much better deal.
Did I just see a GLIDER take off under its own power?! This 40lbs engine is incredible!
Fuck yes!! BADASS!!
The testing of this engine during development was done on glider, once they did high altitude test and reached 8000 meters (26 246 feet) with that
ruclips.net/video/AibrkkBkGuI/видео.html
uh... the ammount of lift those wings give, you could probably use pedal power to fly it... and YES it has been done before, and yes, it was a very ultralight aircraft just like this.
Trhac je_M awesome!
@HiWetcam Would the Turbine powered glider make a nice private plane to fly around the airport vicinity with, for example, take off in Oakland, CA, fly 15 miles west to San Francisco and return to Oakland? What's cruising speed of the glider in powered flight?
God bless the folks at Sonex for these wonderful developments. I particularly feel, with their efforts, general aviation will gain more attraction in the new generation!
Wow, after watching this I really want that jet glider. Super clean.
Yeah! I came to see the single-seater jet, but left wanting the glider.
Lol so true. Sounds so cool to just get up to 10000 feet and float your way down
i want a jet powered glider to
Curious the practicality to fly longer distances given the higher speeds.
....only problem with Glider is the extra man-on-the-ground launch system....where does one get that extra person...? ....seems, on its face, to be an inconvenience....
This thing needs a "Czech Engine Light"...just in case...
Lol, I see what you did there
You're funny.
Does it blinkatja or justayon?
Nice 👌
😂
glider/jet combo has potential, not just as a small jet trainer but in its own right. Think about it, use the motor plus thermals to get up to altitude and then glide to your destination. Combined with the natural characteristics of a glider, a low weight low drag powerful powerplant could really come into its own. Also jet engines run more efficiently at high altitude, and gliders look built for it. Brilliant really.
Looks like a common idea in the comments.
i was thinking how i like the glider more while watching. Considering you cant shoot anyone down in the smaller faster more maneuverable jet whats the point.
@steal threaded
you comment make no cents
Whats is "Because" of?
Are you expecting a thanks to ur point that Flying and Killing are two different things?
The greater interest in the glider is because Of energy fuel and range management.
ur welcome
Self lainch gliders are a thing since '70, the fuck are you on about? And jet engines and efficiency are not to be put into one sentence.
Me163b komet, WW2
I mean, gliders with jet sustainer engines are pretty common with more expensive gliders. Google the js 3.
Am I th only guy that wants them to build a scaled down A-10 with this tech.
Stephen H Now THAT would be EPIC!👌
anridapu they could probably go two seat too
nope
Complete it with a little 50 caliber mini gun.
Might as well put a 22lr gatling lol
The jet cost between $130,000 to $135,000. I just looked it up.
nice not bad. i want a mosquito xel but its 263k
thats ... hmmm its made in chezk kinda scares me lol but what do I know Thats not that bad I guse ?
@@savagex466-qt1io Made in what ? Never heard that word before.
@@tbyte007 Chezzzk Reeepubic its a eastern youarepeeing country not best known for quality besides there womon im sure you understand even if spelling is bad thanks for sharing
@@savagex466-qt1io Oh you mean the quality in the american penal colony is better ? Like Boeing which 737 dig 10 meters holes in the ground killing everybody ? DW did interviews with the workers of 777 plant and they said that they will never fly their family in the planes they are building ... And where did you hear about the bad EU quality ? You pulled it out of your dumb ass ?
You've got the best of both worlds, powered flight with the reassurance that if power is lost, you just simply glide to your destination.
Until you hit a swarm of birds.
This kind of projects make humanity smile. love your work. Good continuation.
The maneuverability on that jet looks amazing.
Dang that looks like fun, always wanted to learn to fly, maybe someday.
Do it while you can Joseph. Time is the only thing you can never get back.
@@jennydiazvigneault5548 Very true, "Time waits for no man" an old Irish saying my Great Grandmother would tell me as a child. Thanks Joseph for reminding me, I appreciate it.
Im only sixteen so i only have my glider pilot license but i would love to fly these planes someday! They look like so much fun!
How’d you afford that at 16?
This is brilliant!
PBS-TJ100 what an awesome jet engine!!!
This is going to change aviation!
I would prefer the TJ150 once it has proven itself and the maintenance intervals are increased.
i don't care about the jet i want that glider with the pop up engine
Me too for the glider please!!
@ that's a BD not a so excited iirc
I know right. I love glider flying but hate having to depend on someone and/or something else to get you up. I think they are selling the wrong product. Forget the Sonex, give me a glider with a stow-able jet!
Tristan MacRae I think if they can have two trailer wheels on the wingtips you can aluminate the extra hands on deck so to speak have a viable product. If no one’s done it already I think it adds just a few thousand dollars to the package but I could be wrong
Once you fly glider specially with a jet engine attached you will never fly any other aircraft
I'd take the glider all the time! Imagine a modern twin glider like the DG1000, the Duo Discus or some Alexander Schleicher designs and this turbine engine instead of a noisy two stroke with a foldable prop as starting, climbing or coming home aid!
The glider is so badass! They both are. Pretty sweet you can hang up with in the clouds and retract your motor !!
Saw one of these at the Greenwood Lake Airshow in NJ last year - the sound coming from that tiny turbine engine was incredible!
Sadly we lost a SUBSONEX JSX-2 today here in Shreveport Louisiana. N465JC. RIP Freddie.
I was lucky enough to see this jet in Albuquerque this year and it was way faster than I expected.
I love the total self sufficientcy of powered gliders and a lightweight jet engine is the perfect power source
Proud of you Americans,,, you people are a blessing to mankind.
Well done for having a tailored training programme. Personally, I'd prefer the glider, but the mini jet looks fun.
The jet-powered glider reminds me of one I saw at an air show in Kingman AZ in 2006. I believe they said they had mounted an engine from a jet helicopter on a glider. Took off under its own power and performed stunts. Turned off the jet and glided during acrobatics. Then turned the jet back on and gained altitude for more acrobatics. Was amazing!
I would like owning the 2 seater powered glider. Awesome
All around interesting video.
That engine is a marvel in itself.
that kicks ass
People complaining about fuel usage just dont seem to get the fun factor with this plane. It looks well engineered and the jet engine is compact and sophisticated. If fuel usage is the big deal, drive your Prius to the airport to make yourself feel better.
Still half the fuel usage than a bugatti chiron and at a considerably higher speed
@@DinoAlberini Right? Personal aircraft is not a poor mans hobby. I have a friend that owns his own small plane. It's a blast and he can afford it. Its a prop plane along the lines of an Alaska bush plane. We take off and fly for an hour or so and land at remote lakes in northern Nevada. Fish for a few hours and back home. It would take half a day to travel there by truck.
A Me-163 replica jet would be a hot seller
kanwarjit sidhu I agree mate
Have been tried and isn't.
I would rather have a replica Horten Ho 229 flying wing.
Yeah, if it could be had for under 50 grand
The ME163 was in fact rocket powered. It required two separate fuels which were corrosive to human flesh and extremely explosive. Not an aeroplane for civil flying. There is a least one replica flying but this is a glider and is aerotowed. This is how they trained the pilots in WW2. The ME163 is based on the Horten flying wings
This is amazing for a lot of us guys who can’t afford a personal jet!
This is where large R/C meets full scale.... so awesome to see
Hells Gate Look up peter scriptal
Love the jet glider, wondering how it would handle cross country ??? 🤔
Depends what country you're crossing
Just stow the engine and fly cross country as a glider.. They do that out of Moriarty every day.
This is the way to go. Fantastic. Thanks for posting.
I would have loved to recertify my Lark and mounted this engine in the turtleshell. Great for self launch and a maintainer. Excellent.
that was incredible, i want one of these.
I love that glider, i think the glidee would be even more awesome with a twin jet setup, and twin horizontal mounted like the a10 in the sub sonex. and twin seater side by side setup too.
What sort of range does the kit jet plane have? Would be awesome to use it to fly across country, but by the look of the size and weight I'm doubting it. I also heard you say cruising at 17,000 ft? That aircraft is pressurized and there's oxygen on board or is that still low enough to forego pressurization? I know you need oxygen though. Does that small jet engine have an issue with longer duration flights if you were able to pack more fuel on or would it be fine? I would absolutely love to see a little bigger kit plane with two of those jet engines that could go cross country and wasn't all that sport focused.
From what I've read on this, the engine uses 20gph @ cruise and has a 40g tank cap. So 2 hours of flight... annnnd I've lost the info on the cruise speed...
I find it odd you dont know oxygen is required over 10000 feet
@@harleyme3163 Lol did you actually read my comment or.....? I specifically say "I know you need oxygen."
And not to nitpick, but it's actually over 12,500 feet where oxygen is required and after 30 minutes. Small planes fly at 10,000 feet all the time no problem with no supplemental oxygen aboard.
Very cool X 2! Just like everyone else, I thought the jet powered glider was really impressive. But I want that jet! ✈️ Ever since my first flight in my grandparents home-built airplane, I tried to talk to my grandfather who built it, a BD-4, into building the 5 or 10 next, with the jet engine. Unfortunately, they weren't very safe and it was a project that was I was never able to talk him into. This certainly gives the GA community a new option, and hopefully I convinces other companies to build/offer something similar!
Wow! And it really flies like a jet. That pass over the runway, and landing, really looked like you were in a fighter.
That looks like an insane amount of fun.
You have really built somthing there.that is just a wonderfull aircraft.
Congratulations, very good job.
This is incredible I am looking forward for more productions and like this.
That jet glider is awesome. No tow , no worries of running out of lift.
Wow that is next on my bucket list
Awesome! Especially the jet-glider! Looking forward to owning one of those nice aircraft.
Sonex, I have a thought that I think is worth developing.
Considering that the jet converted glider is a two seater, wouldn't it be possible to develop a removable range extending fuel tank that fits in the rearmost seat when a passenger isn't present? That'd give you the possibility to bring along an extra 80 or so KGs of fuel, rendering the plane more useful as a tiny jet. The only thing missing for return flights would be a balance solution for the starting without a bystander holding the wing which in itself could be solved with an add-on developed in less than a week on a plane with interchangeable wingtips.
I used to fly a Glaserdirks 1000, but what cost me my interest was the abundance of people required to be present; A pilot who tows, someone to hold the wing, etc. The biggest drawback of gliders is that you can't make return flights as you can't expect any other airport than the one your flight origins from to keep this equipment and manpower.
The only time a range extending tank were to be removed would be when the craft should be flown with a passenger, but at that point, the passenger is present, so even a full tank would be fairly easy to lift out if handles are provided.
With the right design, it could be strapped down with the harness already present for the pilot.
If I had the right experience and resources I would develop this for myself. It would be the ultimate recreational jet.
Small bulks inside the tank would solve any problems with imbalance due to aggressive flying, and a connector resembling the ones usually find on motorbikes would make the installation progress a breeze.
Cheers!
Carbon fiber skis on the wings, and only takeoff and land on grass. Problem solved. They can be designed to have little to no drag and just be tall enough to keep the tips from digging into the ground. Once it picks up any speed on takeoff it should level out easily.
Ummm probably not a good idea putting a fuel tank in the cockpit I’d say.
Ant Man happens all the time with ferry tanks
You can do a wing runner take off, self launchers where I fly do them often, and they self rig meaning it takes no crew except yourself. Even with a DG1000, I've briefed a passenger, hooked up the glider, and then did a no-wing-runner take off, no requirement for anyone but a tug driver.
Joe Englehart oh ok. Fair enough.
Caproni ,the Italian aircraftcompany builded 5 two seater gliders with internal Jet engines in the 70's . Ing Ferrarin and Sonzio made that side by side seater ,all aluminium , 2 wheels with suspension.
if I had a lot of money I def would. buy this guy this thing is awesome man that engine has like 80% percent power output on that glider its so efficient that it can Bring those gliders just shy of 300mph thats insane for a 40lb engine.
I need a couple of these engines to build a flying wing vtol aircraft
I really don't get why small jets weren't the go to instead of a cessna 172 back in the 80's. The state of civilian aviation is just sad, we're 50 years behind schedule.
Because Jets are horribly fuel inefficient and are much more difficult to maintain. Also, there are already enough noise complaints due to regular engines, GA would be dead if everyone just used jet engines.
Perhaps if we weren't so short sighted and had focused on jet technologies since oh say... the 60's... We'd have those problems sorted. We could be used to jet performance and perhaps be flying jet electric hybrid tech by now instead of thinking Cessnas with glass cockpits are modern. Like I said 50 years behind schedule.
@@matthewprentiss1460 There is no money and volume in the GA market, that's the reason why we're still using engines designed in the 50's. Jet engines already had a shitload of money poured into them by the military and commercial market, and they did get more reliable and affordable, which is the reason why systems like the subsonex jet or the jet gliders can even exist. But it is still far from practical. The future for GA are electric engines, as range isn't a big issue for flight schools and recreational fliers.
Sure but my point is instead of the current thinking which is there is no money, what if there had been funds in say the National aeronautics and space administration leading the charge into research way back in the 60's. Think of how much further along we'd be. We just need to make ga a nasa priority.
Another few years and Electric Ducted Fans will probably take over for gliders. Schubeler already makes a 195mm EDF capable of 56lbs thrust for ~$3200. 2 of those is more than enough to get a glider off the ground. Hell one could probably power a small ultralight. Won't be much longer and we'll have 250mm+ EDFs pushing 75 lbs of thrust or more.
Took soaring lessons in Calistoga early 70’s. Money scarce at the time. Wished I had followed through.
love them both the glider and the subsonex sport jet jsx-2 ..thank's for sharing the video cheers from mexico brother..wish i could come out there to NM and see it fly in person one day...maybe you should come to the FAMEX2020 next year and promoted it!! it would be good for your business..thnx anyways..sorry if im out on my english spelling..
Now build a two-seated mini version of the a10 warthog! :)
@joe jitsu simple just a minigun
Bad ass plane! Oh and the engine is awesome. My brother built one of those and put it on a scooter and all sorts of welding fabrications! It went about 55 mph on the ground!
much much smaller scale engine sister
Wait... is it pressurized? Cause you could get pretty high with that mosquito.
And whats the nominal range?
it's $130,000 for anyone wondering.
At least its cheaper than a huracan.
Thanks, I was wondering.
Nothing won’t come cheap when it comes to anything related to aerospace engineering
Thanks ı was looking for it
The Glider with a "convertible" hatch stole the show imo.
This is so awesome... You'd have to pry me out of that cockpit.
It looked like the engine was "stowed" almost immediately after shut down. Is there a heat problem with enclosing a hot engine? I love that glider jet engine combo!
I assume the panels are coated with heat resistant material but fiberglass and heat just don't mix ... Glider is painted white for a reason.... I'd be scared to do that for sure
That looks like so much fun!!!
GREAT Program Fellas
This is just amazing!!
Fantastic video. Thank you.
Ive often thought of some kind of powered glider with an external cargo bay at the back, allowing access to the most remote regions. I'm sure these guys could do it, a high efficiency light transport
I want the jet powered glider more. :)
I like how the flight instructor gives the plane a few quick parts before the guy solos. Every flight instructor knows what that means…..don’t be creative, fly just how we trained.
Fantastic video
nice to see a V tail looks a lot cooler then a normal tail and work just as well as a normal tail
I guess you didn't notice all that adverse yaw on final.
@@andyburk4825 looked fine to me plus there are other factors like wind and turbulence also i believe at the time this video was made it was still a prototype so there may be some thing to sort out.
This looks SO fun!
I love this idea for a jet kit plane, perfect!
Wonderful aircraft... now for a 2 in line..
Great video thank you sharing Australia
Wow. I really love both Jets.
The design can be improved by integrate the jet inside the aircraft body. The air intake can be an open space beneath the aircraft body that can be done and it is more aero dynamic.
That looks like a lot of fun.
Oh my this needs to have like twin turbines on it. I can’t think of the company off the top of my head but the turbines weigh like 30 pounds but produce about 350 pounds of thrust. The next largest is like 50 pounds and produces 475 pounds of thrust.
Twin turbines would make this thing zing across the sky!
I bet you would enjoy two turbines at once!
imagine that this one on the picture has second on the other side, so three all together :D
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Semper Fortis It’s been overbuilt I’m sure. A few modifications and I’m sure it can handle another turbine. Wing mounted turbines or even two on the tail like an A-10 would be cool.
We can call it the Mini Cross of Death.
Put a 5.56 mini gun in the nose.
Trhac je_M, thanks for providing pertinent and relevant info in response to the lady’s query.
I really like this concept in personal aviation, because at the speed it will cruise at, depending on how much fuel it can carry could allow considerable distances in a reasonable amount of time.
I'm a glider pilot, and i Always wanted to transform one with a jet engine, but it's forbiden in France.
What's not?
Nice Work and video.
Enjoyable video, thanks.
I wish I could fly one of those for fun and to travel. I guess it's all for fun... Flying is fun.
- I am truly impressed by the effort and work you are providing on this plane project, but I have a slight criticism. It is a plane with straight wings. It is true that it gives the plane stability at slow speeds, but it is not made for maneuvers.
- The simplest example is at 5:30 You can notice that the wing was affected in a different way than the fuselage, and if it was affected with a greater force, it could have been damaged and would have caused an efficiency problem. I did not have the opportunity from all angles to monitor the behavior of the wings during aerobatics, but I advise you to change the shape of the wings to ensure that no problems occur in the future, so wings Such as Delta Wing Shape or Swept Wings It will give the plane stability at high speeds, as well as strength and endurance during maneuvers and aerobatics.
- I liked the idea of V-shape tail I believe that because of it, the plane was able to make all these movements, but if you decide to follow my advice, it is better to keep it in its shape with the addition of horizontal stabilizer flat with the surface of the delta shape wings or just put a twin tail dont forget to make all the horizontal stabilizer work as an elevator .
- If you could give me some authority to study all the information you have collected on this project, I can direct you to the best choices for making an aircraft that reaches tremendous speeds and is also stable, whether at low or high speeds, while ensuring its efficiency in maneuvers and aerobatics, without forgetting the safety of the pilot and passengers.
- All of this information that I presented came from my experience in the field of aviation engineering, especially Soviet aircraft such as the Su-30MKA and Sukhoi Su-27, also training ones like Yak-130 and L-39 . . But I do not have any certificates in the field of aviation. Only as an amateur I used to approach the places of these aircraft to study their shape and how they work with such solidity and fluidity, while asking questions to those in charge of the military and civilian facilities. I also had real-life experiences by flying alongside the pilot to see and observe how each piece worked. From planes.
- in the past two years, I have been working on a project to manufacture a small aircraft, meaning enough for one person, but with the ability to reach a speed goal of 800 km per hour and a smooth ability with ease of control, which means stability. Then I can work on Range and Economics. . The problem is that I do not have the tools with which I can achieve my goals, such as a CNC milling machine, or even a place to set up my experiments in. Therefore, I gave up on my dream, but my interest is still based on it. You have truly inspired me, and I said, “If you are unable to reach your goals due to lack of conditions, just help Those who want to reach it and have the conditions available to do so.”
- Thank you, with all due respect. I wish you every success in the future.
Beautiful!
I love the idea
Im surprised I didnt see one of these installed in a Civic yet!!!
We need this in FSX!!
I got BD5 from IRIS and it's similarly epic ;)
Would the Turbine powered glider make a nice private plane to fly around the airport vicinity with, for example, take off in Oakland, CA, fly 15 miles west to San Francisco and return to Oakland? What's cruising speed of the glider in powered flight? I don't need to go anywhere fast or long distance as the view below is what's cool around here.
Beautiful
İt s great design, great work..
Well done, it's a dream come true :-)
That is amazing!
I genuinely want one of these for myself! To my knowledge, I don't require a pilot's license for one I Texas where I live just a driver's license. I can use this for going from place to place here in Texas pretty easily too so if I have a business trip, I can take my jet. I have to ask though, as a newbie, how bad are the Gs, is it like flying in a commercial aircraft or is it less so?
What a neat toy! I'm going out on a limb here and going to guess that this is a 250,000+ machine?
You mention the fact that wants you to have jet time before you can get signed off. How much time do they want you to have, and what type of jet time is acceptable? How do they expect you to get the training? There always has to be someone that is not trained that has to be first. How do they determine that this person needs this training to do this but this other person needs this other training before he can do the same thing? Thanks.
What are the performance specification of the glider jet? that thing looks neat.
Real nice wow that looks awesome.....
That looks really fun. I would want to have a passenger seat in the subsonex though
This looks like a safer form of aircraft, yeah, they didn't have any of these new age jet engines back in the . I actually 'dreamed' a form of this aircraft one night long ago , 1983, probably stress related dream of wanting to go home for the weekend quick, no formal airport, took off from my back yard and made a night flight home ,to get my head together, I'd just got out of navy boot camp and schools and so in this crazy dream I flew in something small like this , real cozy, comfortable and quiet , but flew smooth and quickly 300-400 mph in the dream not really fast but fast, but really controllable , like really really controllable , like you didn't need much special training to operate it, like a car, weird
this is amazing!
Improve the thrust on the jet engine and you can use these to take off and land on a specialized sub. These can be used for quick air support with miniaturized baby tomahawks.
i imagine that mini jet looking like a SU-27 . it would be what a machine !
It's crazy how accessible something like that jet engine is. I mean, I know it's not CHEAP, but it's not outrageously expensive, either. From what I've been able to find, you can typically either buy a jet with the TJ100 already on it for around $60k or you can buy the TJ100 by itself for $60k. So it makes little sense to buy the engine by itself. That's the cost of a new truck or SUV. And if you can manage to find a modified glider for sale used, then you're likely to get a much better deal.
"you can typically either buy a jet with the TJ100 already on it for around $60k" - I doubt it. Where?
@@dbdevkc I found some used gliders on the net with the jet engine included. How about you do the work yourself?