What Are These Rocks on the Spokane River?
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Let's look at some rocks on the Spokane River and see if we can figure out what these rocks are that people commonly mistake for petrified wood.
I think this is a prime example of a commonly mistaken identity, which I mostly blame these heavily marketed apps for. I understand people's desire to believe that technology can do everything a person can do, but there is no replacing a person who has looked at thousands and thousands of rocks, knows the geology of the area and has the tools to do some even basic identification work.
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Green aventurine minus mica equals chrome chalcedony! That's some quality material to collect. The color can rival emerald or tsavorite with a translucence similar to jade. It polishes better than aventurine with mica inclusions at the surface that create small pits. Both make beautiful cabs and carvings. Happy to see your crew of three hounding again!
When my brother passed away; he was a collector of agates and I took 99% of them and cast them at a place he cherished.
Well that prolly pissed him off
I think that was a beautiful way to honor your brother. Now when someone finds them it will bring them such great happiness and joy. They get to share in something rare and amazing thanks to you and your brother.
I recently moved to Washington state and am still learning about the local rocks and minerals. I had collected some rocks that I though for sure were petrified wood! You were so right! After seeing your show, I went and looked at what I had collected. Wow! Thanks so much for the heads up! I hope to be a bit more discriminating from now on. Have a blessed day!
We all are in the process of learning here. :)
In the river I recently found a piece of fossilized wood chip layers with pyrite and silver veins running throughout, new subscriber !
It can be confusing for many types rocks, but petrified wood would top the list. Thanks for the good explanations. 😷⚒
Great video 👍👍
Also being from the Pacific north west I love rocks.
My favorite is all the green rocks, identification is somewhat difficult. I know in my area we have tons of serpentine and Jasper. Very rarely jade or ?
I know this most likely has been covered but a refresh would be great. Just an idea for the future.
Thank you for supporting the rock and minerals world. 👍❤️👍
Tumbled Urbanite lol. Great clarifications!
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Thank you so much for making this video. I was nearly tempted to download that app. I think it even had a 4.3 star rating, but I'd rather not know what rock I have than to label it wrong. I think that app will eventually be very accurate, but it still has a lot of learning to do.
😆 that urbanite toss was pure gold, BTW.
I don't think there is anything wrong with having unknowns in the collection. I have some still!
There is far too much urbanite in the Spokane river.
Thanks for de-mystifying this topic. You know we wanna bring home that Maserati or two, but reality mostly stipulates we're coming back home in the pinto. Hey everybody.."back in the PINTO!"
This would be a great video for a high school science class!
Thank you!
This is kinda grimm but, I wonder if caskets from many many years ago have petrified.
This is good info on a somewhat tricky rock to identify! I feel like we have a much better sense of the differences now, but it used to be hard to tell. Every new pet wood hunter should watch this one!
It does get easier with time for sure.
These would be beautiful made into marbles! Wow!
After retiring, I moved to Spokane in 2018, got interested in geology through SCC, and have been rockhounding ever since. I’m not been to the banks of the Spokane River, but I will definitely be there soon. I love Belt rocks, especially argillite. Thanks
We do live in a really geologically interesting location.
Great video, I will have to look for some of that material to slab up next time I go down to the river.
I geek out from the lake, most the time. Too busted up to do much hiking, but as I'm fishing Roosevelt, I'm watching the layers of Columbia deposits, the layers in the cliffs, etc. We live in such a geologically unique area, it's tough NOT to geek out. It's kinda cool that we can tell by color which of the old river systems deposited rocks in the middle of now dry ground or hills.... My brother has a few pickup loads of petrified wood from digging in the Central Washington hills. He's made some amazing jewelry with some of his finds. Keep up the good work, always enjoyable.
Always entertaining. Always informative, and you always tell it the way it is. Thank you for that.
Thank you!
Oh 100% There's SO many things in my area that look kind of like petrified wood that are not. I haven't even tried the rock identifier apps lol. I'm sure as wrong as I've been in the past I'm doing a much better job lol. Good to see you out on the river rockhounding. I think much like myself you don't go so much for the water worn stuff... BUT! Sometimes it's so worth it! You won't believe what I found in a creek last week! Anyway... Don't rule out the gravel bar rockhounding. You're way closer to the Yellowstone than me. Just saying.
I think you should try one of the apps just for laughs.
Yeah the water worn stuff hold less interest for me most of the time, that said I would like to get out on the Yellowstone.
Ive tried plant and rock identification and find that a little research is always better than trusting a computer to make a judgment. Due diligence!!!!
When I see people posting that they found pet wood in places we know there has never been 🤦🏼♀️ You can’t even try to tell them it’s not because “the app told me it was”. P.S. one of my dogs favorite snack is a good stick… don’t know why!🤣
You can show google lens pyrite and they come up with gold pictures and info. Lol
interesting and insightful, ty
One of my personal favorites. Most of the wood I find are the branch points that are a harder darker wood on the inside giving a nice buckeye look, the softer material has tumbled away, leaving a common comma shape. Also the familiar Oregon northern border shape when the petrified wood breaks as if you had split it with an axe along the grain. Not that those are specific identifying traits.
Having been watching rock hounding videos for a year or two now, even I am noticing certain channels regularly mis-identifying material. 😞
There's nothing wrong with making identification mistakes, I still do it and will continue to likely have it happen in the future but the problem is when you misidentify, don't want to be corrected and don't want to make improvements.
Nice day on the River! Unfortunately most people that use those apps will still argue with you due to the provenance of googles name on it. Fortunately out here our petrified wood is unmistakable from other things. Tis the season to get back out there and hunt!
Very good point.
As somebody who can basically only find naturally tumbled pieces of petrified wood locally (I'm from Saxony, Germany; most petrified wood you can find here has been tumbled by thick layers of ice during the last bigger ice age) I know the struggle. There's a lot of banded, layered stuff to be found on the fields here, and often it's quite hard to tell what is what. A (not quite but) kind of definitive proof for it being petrified wood is shining my UV light on it. And if it starts to glow in some shade of orange, you can be pretty sure that it is petrified wood. Of course that only goes for specimens that already have a few other indicators that they might be petrified wood, like the ones mentioned in the video. If it doesn't light up, that doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't petrified wood, of course. But if it does, that tells me I was probably right about my find.
Great video, always learning. !!!!!! That's what I love about your channel.
I'm glad you liked it.
I always find old stone tool pieces in rivers and beaches
Knowing the Geology does help.
Always so informative, I have learned so much from your channel... unfortunately I live in the UK and we don't get so much of an abundance of beautiful rocks , definitely on my bucket list to come over some day and do a bit of rock hounding. Much love sent 🥰
Can you find any agate or jasper at the Spokane river ? Or what can you find there
You can find low quality jaspers.
wow is amazing brother👍💪🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
I had an experience when I first joined my rock club. After spending some time with a fellow member doing some rock show work, they explained how to identify petrified wood. On my next trip to the coast I came upon a huge chunk of banded rock, and took it to the next meetings share. All excited to show it off. You can imagine my chagrin after telling the story about my new knowledge and finding , when a fellow member said, No, that is a mud ball. Oops, was my face red. 😊Another member said, don’t worry about it, it’s a common newbie mistake. I am more careful in my identifying rocks for sure . Thanks for your videos, I find them both entertaining and educational.
@@kimnutt2893 you don't need to study the world of stones too deeply , just memorize the characteristics of crystalline and non-crystalline stone , for more details , go to the laboratory that proves
Great video! I like videos that compare like this. Spend camera time when doing the look up on the app. I think it would be fun to see. As always, thank you for this. You gal has a good eye and finds the best rocks!❤
A lot of petrified wood between La and Texas
Your videos are always informative, but I'm afraid that most people that are going to pick those rocks up, and use one of those rock id apps, are not people who are going to watch your videos. Most of your followers, I should hope anyways, already know that those apps are full of wrong identifications for their rocks. But if there is some out there, I certainly hope that they find their way to this video. I can see where some may look at those rocks and may think pet wood, but I should hope that the vast majority of your followers would not. But thank you for that video and the clarifications. Those apps don't work people. So your basic tests and you can at least rule out the vast majority of types of rock you thought it to be. Thanks Jared!
I don't really agree with your assessment here on the use and prevalence of these apps. I think lots of people using them, I get comments about them weekly from people that watch my channel, I see comments about them being a good useful tool on Facebook and these companies like the Rock ID App now are reaching out to content creators to pay us to promote them and I seen a few creators take that money. I think the problem will be getting worse with time as people fully give into AI apps for everything.
On April 5th 2023, I was on the Columbia river a few miles below the Priestriver Dam, and found a good size rock that looks like an agate. Where mite I get some advice on this rock?
You can always email me some nice photos of it taken outside in natural light and I might be able to help.
Excellent teaching video. These are the differences only trained people would understand as not really something an untrained person would be able to discern. Your program enriches our livez by teaching viewers to appreciate nature in a discerning way and to realize it has treasures to offer in what appear to be everyday things like the gravel paving our roads or the rocks in a creek or riverbed . Keep up the good work you are excellent teachers and appreciated much for the time and effort and quaity you put into your work.thank you for sharing your work with us so we become better educated to the world rock hounding and how to do it correctly.
Thank you so much for the kind words.
I am so guilty of mis identifying petrified wood. Thanks for the video bud!
I think that happens to everyone.
Wood shows end grain and pores when cut crosswise. Can end grain and pores be easily seen in rough pieces of petrified wood, or does the stone have to be cut to see it? Obviously, if the bands go all the way around the rock, it can't be PW, but I've seen pieces where the banding is obscured on the ends and it's hard to tell.
Generally I would say that is accurate but that doesn't really hold true when things have been weathered and river tumbled. I also have some prime examples that back that up which I should have shown on the video.
Ayy, great video! When I was just beginning to collect rocks and minerals I had the hardest time determining if a sample was petrified or not, but now I feel I can identify wood with ease, it really is like a sixth sense! You are so right in that people and your mind is the greatest tool over any app.
* Interesting ~ As you noted ~ Location is important in identification of rocks... An app is far from a good way to identify any rock.. LOL .
I personally found this very helpful and a nice presentation for identification.. Thanks CR.
Thank you!
Super interesting video. Love all the knowledge you shared! :)
Thank you!
I'm a rockhound from Michigan and have used Google Lens to varying degrees of success. It's absolutely amazing what the "algorithm" thinks an agate is. Not everything is an agate but Google certainly thinks it is. Around here, chances are VERY good that it's some sort of feldspar. Adding "Michigan" to the meta-data doesn't really help. As soon as I do that I start getting results that everything is either a Puddingstone (white quartzite with purple/grey/red jasper crystals), Gowganda Tillite (basalt matrix with varied size feldspar crystals) or a Lightning Stone (Lake Michigan Septarian)
The problem with it is that the person using it doesn't actually know if its right and then confirmation bias kicks in.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding You're absolutely right! For the most part, I have to take the results with a grain of salt. I also make it a point to take multiple photos, from multiple angles, under multiple spectrums of light to even start to get an idea of what I'm looking at. It isn't perfect but it's better than outright guessing I suppose.
You actually helped me ID an old piece i left as is..
That's great!
Jared, I just want to say, “You Rock”
Thank you!
Thanks for the video, a lot of warm weather and snowmelt this week
I'm looking forward to the snow being gone.
Very useful. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
I'm glad you liked it.
Great video! Thanks
Thank you!
Good informative video, I do need to get me a set of hardness checkers. I use a piece of agate or pet wood, basically the same hardness. I should send you a piece of Arizona pet. I had read that the older the petrified wood the less growth rings you will see! Arizona wood does show less of the rings, the pattern is there but not as defined as what you were showing.
The hardness picks are very handy to have but also a little pricey.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Yes, I have priced them
Great information. Thanks!
I'm glad you liked it.
Could you tell me the breed of your dog? My dog is a rescue and has been with me for 5 years now. I don't know her breed and she looks very much like your dog ♥️
I don't really know since she is a rescue dog that we adopted.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Thank you!
I love these videos!!! Keep this type coming. How to identify! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you!
Awesome video!👍👍
Thank you!
Are you kidding me. I agree it's not wood. Its sedimentary rock. Rock laid down uniformally in a giant flood. Then those rocks got broken up from the parent rock way up the stream 900 miles away. I took Geo 101 and been in the woods my entire life.
Not sure why you're talking about giant floods here since sedimentary rocks are formed slowly over time and sediment settles in lakes and rivers and gets compress over time.
Have you tried lapping the wood from Saddle Mountain? Could be my imagination. But I smelled burnt wood.
I have, and I didn't experience anything like that.
Mudfossil University and Stellium7 channels have very interesting finds as well. Great video.
Unfortunately those channels are filled with fake made up nonsense.
I have a good rock identifier app. I tested it out on common and uncommon rocks that I know for a fact what they are and the app has been right on. Although I know it may not be 100% it is a good tool to give you an idea. I also do cross reference it with a field guide book.
If its not 100% right than its wrong.
If you have field guides why even waste time playing with apps that will mislead you and provide false positives?
First time I've heard someone tell me an 'app' might be wrong.
Please tell me you're joking.
Maybe it's just experience, but it was easy for me to see those were not P-wood. Petrified wood would have linear grain and end grain. None of your examples had evidence of end grain. Also hardness should be a factor as well. Even Opalized wood is going to be mid range on the Mohs scale. As you stated, Smart phones cannot account for experience and should not be proclaimed as gospel!.
I do think that a big part of that is the amount of rocks and petrified wood you have looked at over the years. It is something that comes with time I believe.
Perhaps the issues is mostly for new people of which there are many and without prime examples to look at and compare against I can see how people get confused.
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Are any of our rocks valuable?
That is the incorrect mindset to have about it.
Research biogeology the rocks were alive.
That is a wildly inaccurate statement.
5:38 yep, petrified wood. crystallisation is the process of change from wood to rock. may be hard to swallow, but that is just cognitive dissonance for you. even it's colour tells you. most true rock is petrified wood. that's because this place was a huge forest, not so long ago. got loads of it here. huge tree stumps. it's like the remains of the destroyed paradise are still all around us.
wrong
@@CurrentlyRockhounding water at rest is flat and level. gyroscopes do not precess. that's why i am an empirical scientist and i'm not founded on books and beliefs.
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