@@fixthesegames6303 I mean they were definitely underpaid... Fighters nowadays are still complaining about pay, they were getting wayy less 15 years ago lol
@@elshanks1578 Because he didn't beat anyone famous like Nate Diaz, Usman or Adesenya that's why. Guys who had match up against khazmat got absolutely dominated except burns but he still won. But it's still not enough to get him cheer from fans. Like how khabib dominated every fight in his early days of UFC but still got booed against Connor, but after beating him he became Star.
@@breathtakers914 Nonsense Winning fights doesn't guarantee you anything. Mma fans are the most fickle/worthless metric to receive praise from. Look at khabib he never lost got a shit ton of hate back in his run its only recently that people started flocking to him. Usman was a dominant champ for years and received heavy backlash its only when he shut Colby up did people start flocking to him. My point is winning fights doesn't equate to receiving praise from fans. They can choose any amount of nonsensical issue that they might have with you and latch on to that for years. Be it a "boring personality", "boring fighting style" "cringe behaviour" etc. Whatever the daft airheads will feel like in the moment is what they'll express wins or no.
As someone with just a pretty casual fandom of MMA who doesn’t really care about press conferences and media tours to promote fights, to me the moral event horizon for Jones was the hit and run with the pregnant woman.
@@mortalgaming6602 That’s not how it works, and he practically ran from Cain Velasquez. Turning away and practically running away. Brock talked a lot of shit and Cain forced him to tap to strikes🤭! You shouldn’t tap to strikes, and turning your back to an opponent just shows that he never learned to not be afraid of punches
Actually, that assessment of Jon Jones is pretty kind. You left out his multiple PED and drug suspensions, and the fact that he was on steroids in at least one of the fights with DC and probably both.
Recently it seems like he's trying to turn it around. We don't know his actual relationship with Cormier but it seems to be better, he's fighting again, and he hasn't been arrested (yet?)
Ronda really bought into her own hype. She never wanted to evolve and believed in her mind, that she was some elite striker. The game passed her up quickly when women's MMA started to get more well rounded than dominant in one art.
I personally think it's more to do with her incompetent coach who moved her to boxing and striking rather than on the ground moves like wrestling or ji jitsu which actually got her to the top originally.
@@rikumajumder1558 yeah, like I said before women's MMA evolved and fighters became more rounded. Like wrestling/ takedown defense. It's like putting Royce in his prime up against guys now. He would get destroyed by bottom tier ranked fighters. He had no striking and just BJJ. Guys now, train in every aspect and weren't just one dimensional.
@@gentlemandemon i still think you're putting it lightly, Masvidal going from something of a cool "BAMF" with star power to a sore loser of sorts, a hollow persona. I feel like the fall from grace is nasty enough to go from beloved to hated, sure
Khamzat was never generally beloved. He's always been very polarising, you either love him or hate him. Most people that love him's opinions didn't change much because of the weigh ins they were just disappointed. It's just that the haters (who were previously silent) finally have something to hold on to that's why it seems like so many people suddenly hate
I'd definitely disagree Most people I've spoke to either liked him or indifferent to him, with the sentiment he might be the "next khabib" and excited to see his prospect, but then he went and disrespected everyone, the sport overall & a fan favourite fighter by not even trying to make weight(or so it seemed) and obviously didn't give a fuck
Pretty much. Cuz I love the dude and that's exactly how I felt. I was just disappointed. And then to hear his coach say he basically just came into camp too heavy shows me it was avoidable. But in hindsight I'm glad it happened cuz I think the card turned out better..... I didn't wanna see Diaz get mauled like that for his farewell fight. And Khamzat beating the shit out of Nate would've probably got him even more hate than the missed weight did (even though that's more on Dana and Hunter, Khamzat would've just been doing his job). So it's all good, as long as he doesn't miss weight AND beats Colby the mma fans will completely forget about that last situation.
Your guys’ movie references are hilarious! The Sean of the Dead one about waiting for things to blow over while chilling at the Winchester made me crack up 😄
Yeah but he's also seemed to gain a few new fans aswell. 1s that think there's nothing wrong with assaulting people in the streets because mean things were said. Mean things often misrepresented by those same fans.
@@EthanHall7276. yeah. I like him more now he suckered Colby. It’s just a shame he didn’t do severe, permanent damage so I’d never have to see Colby on TV ever again. …although to be fair, Colby has been in hiding like the little coward he is since it happened, so maybe it’s turned out ok.
The thing with Rose isn't just that she put on a boring fight. If she'd played it safe against someone super dangerous it would have perhaps been understandable. What made it so bad is that for every second of the fight she looked so much more skilled than her opponent and like she could finish it any time she chose to and just do nothing but evade..
Agreed. It made sense to be somewhat standoffish for the first round...I'm sure Rose has memories of getting easily ragdolled by Carla. But once she established she could get back up pretty easily, even if Carla took her down, there was no excuse to at least not try to score points. And she didn't just play defensive. She acted like a videogame character whose buttons broke.
thats because she had a gameplan…she fought esparza before and knows how quickly she can take her back, or shoot for takedowns. But go ahead and nit pick her performance and validate the ignorant haters, thats fine too. (Where tf is all the hate for Esparza? She’s the one who brought absolutely no competition to the fight and didn’t even deserve to be there in the first place.) GSP got straight embarrassed and lost his title in his prime to a total nobody who j snuck into the title fight after being a runner up on TUF….you gonna tell me Matt serra had a higher skill level than GSP, or that GSP DIDNT hesitate in several moments he shouldn’t have? C’mon man, I also fully support her and her husband defending her fighting style; she doesn’t need to change sh*t for some mark ass casual fans, and her resume proves her fighting style is beyond capable of winning world titles 💀🤦🏼♂️
@@JSwett0042 She had a bad gameplan.. I'm not a hater at all, I'm a big Thug Rose fan, that's why it disappointed me. I don't have any hate for either of them, I just have more disappointment in Namajunas than I do in Esparza precisely because I know she is capable of dominating her. Sure, it takes two to put on a stinker, but I don't actually expect Esparza to be able to do any better than she did. I'm no casual. I haven't missed a UFC event in over 15 years. I watched WEC, Strikeforce, Pride etc etc. I've trained MMA. I'm a hardcore fan in every sense of the word. But it's not just my opinion is it? The judges scored it for Esparza. Of surveyed media scoring of 19 publications, it was scored 11-7-1 in favour of Esparza. It literally set the record for the lowest amount of strikes thrown in a 5 round fight ever! She doesn't need to change sh**t for casual fans, no. She needs to change that gameplan to actually convincingly win the damn fight.
I disagree, she got finished by Esparza one time already. What made it so upsetting is that she kept screeching "I'm the BEST" after the fight and her pedophilloic troglofauna coach Pat Barry defended that.
My problem wasn't the skill gap its that she was genuinely afraid she was in fear of that girl. And even that wasn't what upset me it was her doing fuck all and screaming "IM THE BEST" to try and seem like she wasn't terrified of losing again.
They way Dana white looked at the camera when he said "I''m coming for it KEN" Is they way he should have threatned the illegal streamers Im sure they would have stopped LMAO @7:05
I honestly assumed Jorge Masvidal was going to be pretty high on this list but to not even have him on it at all is surprising. Lol I mean he might have been in the top 5 most popular fighter's in the sport just 3 years ago.
And not only is he hated now, nobody really cares about him anymore Conor is hated but still the most popular meanwhile Masvidal is a nobody in the division
I would love to see at “top 10 most respected fighters” or “top 10 real BMFs”. Not the goats but guys like Igor Vovchanchyn who has a tremendous amount of respect for fighting at heavyweight despite being 5’7. Or an obvious one is someone like Cowboy
I've always said Igor Vovchanchin was the scariest, most fearless fighter from the 90s to the 00s. He was the first to stop Mark Kerr (albeit it was a no contest due to illegal knee) but still stopped Kerr when Kerr was steamrolling everyone. And just about all his opponenets were so much larger, but he still either managed to beat them, or give them all they could handle.
Fedor happens to be the heavyweight GOAT(and the only real pound for pound heavyweight ever ) he should make the list because he’s never called himself the best and never thought he was the best. He doesn’t really say much, no trash talking, no excuses after losses and he doesn’t give a fuck about who looks away first in a stare down ,he’s literally just there to fight. He’s way more of a bad motherfucker than Jorge Masvidal or Colby Covington could ever hope to be😆. No gimmick here, just running miles every week and never once gassing out in a fight. He also can’t help but smile sometimes when he’s at the weigh ins or doing the stare down. He just is a bad motherfucker and he just shows that with absolutely no trash talking or flair👍
Anyone I talk to about MMA usually mentions Anderson Silva with a great deal of respect. Top 5 of this list if nothing else. Oh and Chael, the Undefeated. His cult following is legendary.
Alright I’m just gonna put this out there is it weird that Paulo and Khamzat are beefing and they both missed weight and they are both big for their divisions idk
I used to be a fan of Stephen Thompson. But after he ignored my twitter messages. And didn’t return my phone calls. And then the restraining order after I dropped in for a family reunion. Idk, just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Surely the true NMF would have invited you in first at the reunion for a nice meal with the family before headkick KO'ing you then calling the police. I just don't know where this country's values have gone truly
As a Diaz fanboy, I was thrilled with Khamzat’s fuck up. And I was there at 279 at the T Mobile I still cheered Khamzat on. Nate v. Tony was a better fight than what Khamzat v. Diaz woulda been and we all know it
Exactly people clown on him now but he clearly has cte i think its sad how people great him nowadays. I mean he was one of the best in his era and he was the best TUF coach and he back then had pretty funny trashtalk/antics.
@@albinwallen634 He was super funny and genuine. As a coach he was constructive and inspiring. I think it's incredibly sad how the UFC put him on stage post getting CTE against people who are the best at talking trash in the business.
People seem to forget that, the MMA community has to be one of the most toxic ones. Give Khamzat one or two fights at 170 and he'll be the beloved superhero again 100%
Sounds bad but u guys send me to sleep every night. I watch the start of the vid. Love it. Then turn around and just listen to ur vids while falling asleep. Doing this for about 3 months
I don't really get too upset with fighters especially if they brought me joy at some points and even the ones I don't like in general I have a lot of respect for (unless they do some horrendous shit)
Also about the anime Israel adesanya thing Carlos newton used to do the "Kamehameha" after wins. Which was probably before y'all were watching. Certainly not gen z 😉 And there's John Dodson etc
Yeah this actually shows mma fans in a good light. People turn on fighters when they actually do something worth disliking. Like missing weight, committing felonies, popping for peds, or being delusional about losses. What kind of shows a fighter likes to watch is just irrelevant. Kinda weird that mma on point thought people would dislike someone because of a dumb thing like that.
Love your videos as always 🙌 thanks for all the great work you put into these. "literally became public enemy number one" and "literally everyone wanted to see" just noticed that maybe you dont know what literally means haha.
not sure if it’s a language barrier but Khamzat genuinely seems like he doesn’t care about the weight issue because he’s here to “fight” 😂 with the UFC not punishing him it’ll only strengthen his stance on it.
The only dorks are the ones who went from slurping him sooo hard after just three fights to hating on him even though he's now pretty much a proven veteran. You should be glad he didn't fight Diaz. It'd've been a waste of everyone's time, just like the Usman-Colby rematch was. *Edit:* Wait, a goon is a good thing now? This generation...
i didnt see her explanation video, but nah I dont think one boring fight is enough to turn MMA fans against Thug Rose. i know mma fans are notoriously fickle, but Rose is way too likeable and entertaining to give up on that fast. Just the way she gets so happy when she wins is just so fresh to see in combat sports.
Lance Armstrong was a SCAPE GOAT!!! You obviously don't know that when they retested the top 10 from one of the years, EVERYONE FAILED! I'd like to quote the Diaz Brothers and say "everyone is on that shhhh..."
Yeah but it was more of a reference to the fact that he did indeed lie on camera multiple times about not doing steroids, him and everyone else but, if I said the name of some other random cyclist no one would have known who I was on about.
Yeah, everyone was juiced but Armstrong was such a vindictive, nasty piece of work with it. He tried to ruin people who called him out on his drug taking instead of just shutting up.
@JackTorrance333 all kebab DOES is hide behind women when he's acting like a coward. He hid behind thug rose on the bus, he hid behind his mother when he fled the sport the first time after he missed weight against gaethje and was terrified he was going to have to move up and fight without a borderline cheating size advantage, then he came straight back then his behind his cousin/wife when he fled the sport a second time when he thought volk was going to beat Islam and kebab was going to be linked to an L....then came right back the next day
Wouldn't even say Khamzat was beloved, I loved him but it was more what he represented, a relentless smesh machine coming for all our favorites. I think him being a heel will be good for him and more fitting. Guy looks evil to begin with lmao
@@Browser404 every dam ufc fighter watches wwf back then.I mean the Colby walk out proved it.And it’s way better to watch a heel more entertaining than went someone is humble and does nothing fun to hype up a fight
@@reecemccullough4829 Bro, missing weight isn't the main issue, it's how you address it afterwards. So yes, Khabib is more disciplined in that area. As for jumping the cage, you really are gonna sit there and ignore the whole backstory? Yes, Khabib was not justified in doing that but how you gonna ignore all the build up and the criminal action Connor and his friends did?
Ronda and Jones got exposed for the shady people they truly are. Ronda after she lost and Jones after being popped for the 2 failed drug tests for PED's and the list continues to grow.
12:28 Can you imagine how terrified the officials were when they saw Khabib, someone normally respectful and calm, suddenly jump over the cage in pure hatred to beat down Dillon? Arguably the best fighter in the WORLD jumps into a brawl and THEY have to somehow get in-between them to stop it before a riot starts.
@@reecemccullough4829 I didn't say they couldn't stop it. I said can you imagine how terrified the officials were right when he jumped over. They didn't know how it was going to end. They saw the best fighter in the world picking a fight outside the ring. They were probably shitting themselves.
@@Rocky-oq9cy he's not that feared outside the octagon where people are bigger than him. he's small. I'm not telling he is weak or something but you keep saying he is the best fighter in the world. Believe me there were people in the crowd that night who can defeat Khabib. Other fighters trained guards and lots of people who not olny watch but are into martial arts themselfs were there. It literally scared 0 people
@@LND209 I was mad bc Holland was trying to glove touch and got absolutely rag dolled for being respectful lol, Ik it’s legal and he won fair and square but damn
Ya not really! As impressive as it is does anyone really enjoy anticipating a fight an then having it end so fast? I think it’s impressive as hell an he’s one hell of a fighter (wrestler) but his fights are not entertaining at all! Except for his fight with Burns I’ll give him that but that was only good because he didn’t wrestle! I’m not against wrestling either but nobody wants to watch one sided fights!
My introduction to the UFC and MMA was the Tito / Shamrock season of TUF and watching the fight at the end of the season. Tito and Ken made me a fan and I bet there are many more people that became fans around that same time thanks to those two
I'm going to be honest I'm still a huge fan of Khazmat. Understandably, people are upset missing weight and the attitude he carried after the fact but the skill and dominance he has shown in the octagon is incomparable to anyone else on the roster currently. Would love to see a match up between him and Shavkat if Shavkat continues to look impressive as he has been lately
Yeah same. He's fun to watch and I don't really care if he missed weight over a fight that shouldn't have been made in the first place. Honestly that whole event was ridiculous to start with
@@tsunax1400 yeah, impressively khazmat simultaneously ruined the event and made it better. Or at least made it make more sense since that Diaz match up was going to be legal televised murder
If Dana didn’t like him so much he wouldn’t have even gotten the chance to fight, haven’t heard of a fighter missing weight by that much……There’s a reason why champions have to weigh in EXACTLY at their respective weight
Doesn't even matter if he's dominant. People clown on him meanwhile jump on Nate Diaz's dick screaming "209"!!! Like Nate didn't miss weight by like 30 pounds against Conor in their first fight 💀
I'm still down with Khamzat. After his past medical issues, I can understand him listening to a doctor who told him to stop cutting. His "fuck you" attitude felt like a way to ignore the inevitable hate storm for missing weight.
@@cbm3 That's fair. I don't know if there's some benefit to cutting closer to fight week, but I think a lot of fighters do last minute cuts. At the end of the day, if a doctor says stop, then a fighter should stop the cut.
And that Tito thing. When I watched that PPV (like 2 weeks after it was live) I liked what Tito said. They were friends and I thought it was cool that he didn't immediately say some shit about wanting to kick his friends ass. I saw it as him having a line he didn't immediately want to cross. That was then though. Lol
Have you done the other way round? Cause I remember when DC was hated for a while especially in ufc 200 where he just essentially sat on Anderson silva for 3 rounds.
If it wasn't for Pat everyone would still love Rose as much as I do! Pat is such a cringey oafish nerd that people don't like Rose by association! She needs to dump that dude asap!
Rhonda Rousey was a champion of noobs. She never really faced any talented fighters who were badasses in their own right. But when she finally did fight some talented fighters she got outclassed every time. You can actually see the level of skill she really has when she fought Nunez. Nunez took her apart with such ease. And let’s not forget her shadow boxing/sparring video, lol.
Unpopular Opinion: Fighters owe the fans nothing to make the fight entertaining, they should be treated as athletes not gladiators. Also, since when should athletes feel ashamed for losing? They are the ones who reap the consequences for losing, in no sport do people condemn athletes for not being good enough to win.
They can do what they want but that’s how they make money like it or not. If you don’t want to be entertaining then go ahead but the UFC wants to make money so don’t expect any favours from them
@@tmosh55 I don't agree, if the UFC wants mma to be a legitimate sport, then the best fighters should be competing, not the best names. You can have money fights, but exactly what "favors" are you talking about? And I disagree about your premise. People watch sports because they enjoy the sport, the UFC made this culture of drama by choice. There are civilized people who watch sports just to enjoy the sport, and might appreciate a fight if it is going to be close because both fighters have good TECHNIQUE. The more I think about this, the more ridiculous and contrived this whole mma culture seems. This is what turns people off from mma, because they are appealing to as Floyd would say it, "beer drinkers". But real sports are for everybody
Izzy's fight with Romero was a snoozefest because of Romero, not Izzy. The champion had nothing to gain and the challenger had nothing to lose. Yet Romero decided to stand there like a scarecrow, in the middle.of the ring 😂
If you're like me and thought, lol, Brain Dead Toto used Limp Biskit as a walk out song, The Undertaker who is cannonically one of the toughest dudes to ever exist used it too.
Tito: the ufc doesn’t pay us enough to fight our friends. I want to make sure me and chuck get paid properly.
The MMA community: to hell with this guy
He was in the wrong era bra let's be honest this guy nowadays he'll be a huge superstar
@@sanelengcongo7551 he was a huge star then
That's actually sad to see, the guy really showed pure feelings and concern
He basically used that as an excuse to stay champion
@@fixthesegames6303 I mean they were definitely underpaid... Fighters nowadays are still complaining about pay, they were getting wayy less 15 years ago lol
I remember very well the exact moment Josh Koscheck went from beloved to hated. It was on November 30, 1977
I'm just gonna assume this is his birthday and I'm just gonna agree
This is frickin hilarious🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣
That cracked me up! 😂
Koscheck's parents fought for 225 month abortions.
The MMA community generally has a brutally short-term memory. Fighters can become loved just as quick as they can become hated.
@@seanthegrizz3983 khamzat has been winning fights and he was hated ever since he made his debut.
@@elshanks1578 Because he didn't beat anyone famous like Nate Diaz, Usman or Adesenya that's why. Guys who had match up against khazmat got absolutely dominated except burns but he still won. But it's still not enough to get him cheer from fans. Like how khabib dominated every fight in his early days of UFC but still got booed against Connor, but after beating him he became Star.
Vice versa also. Look at DC
@@breathtakers914 Nonsense Winning fights doesn't guarantee you anything. Mma fans are the most fickle/worthless metric to receive praise from. Look at khabib he never lost got a shit ton of hate back in his run its only recently that people started flocking to him. Usman was a dominant champ for years and received heavy backlash its only when he shut Colby up did people start flocking to him. My point is winning fights doesn't equate to receiving praise from fans. They can choose any amount of nonsensical issue that they might have with you and latch on to that for years. Be it a "boring personality", "boring fighting style" "cringe behaviour" etc. Whatever the daft airheads will feel like in the moment is what they'll express wins or no.
Cause is not love, its hype. Comes quickly and goes even faster
As someone with just a pretty casual fandom of MMA who doesn’t really care about press conferences and media tours to promote fights, to me the moral event horizon for Jones was the hit and run with the pregnant woman.
Lesnar vs Overeem was a fair fight between two guys who took anything to be bigger and stronger than everyone else
Was not fair lesnar had medical isues that caused constant pain in the abdomen and overeem destroyed him with body shots
@@mortalgaming6602 So?
its MMA!
@@mortalgaming6602 how is that not fair, how old are you lol
@@mortalgaming6602 That’s not how it works, and he practically ran from Cain Velasquez. Turning away and practically running away. Brock talked a lot of shit and Cain forced him to tap to strikes🤭! You shouldn’t tap to strikes, and turning your back to an opponent just shows that he never learned to not be afraid of punches
Bro you can clearly see Brock was not the same fighter after diverticulitis that shit wasn’t fair
Actually, that assessment of Jon Jones is pretty kind. You left out his multiple PED and drug suspensions, and the fact that he was on steroids in at least one of the fights with DC and probably both.
and possibly beating his wife
Recently it seems like he's trying to turn it around. We don't know his actual relationship with Cormier but it seems to be better, he's fighting again, and he hasn't been arrested (yet?)
I still fw jones
And don't forget he's a domestic abuser and a cheater (eye pokes and illegal hits)
All the eye pokes
Ronda really bought into her own hype. She never wanted to evolve and believed in her mind, that she was some elite striker. The game passed her up quickly when women's MMA started to get more well rounded than dominant in one art.
I personally think it's more to do with her incompetent coach who moved her to boxing and striking rather than on the ground moves like wrestling or ji jitsu which actually got her to the top originally.
Elite striker xD
Long live "HEAD MOVEMENT!"
@@rikumajumder1558 yeah, like I said before women's MMA evolved and fighters became more rounded. Like wrestling/ takedown defense. It's like putting Royce in his prime up against guys now. He would get destroyed by bottom tier ranked fighters. He had no striking and just BJJ. Guys now, train in every aspect and weren't just one dimensional.
@@randlemarsh Rondo would have been had a longer career if her coach wasn't so fixed..
The fact that Jorge isn’t on this list is pure madness.
how? he's still has a huge profile that's mostly positive
@@gentlemandemon maybe, but is it anything like it was? I don't think you could say it is
@@cursed_arzine sure, but "a fighter slowly losing their moment in the spotlight" ain't the same thing as "beloved turned hated"
@@gentlemandemon i still think you're putting it lightly, Masvidal going from something of a cool "BAMF" with star power to a sore loser of sorts, a hollow persona. I feel like the fall from grace is nasty enough to go from beloved to hated, sure
@@gentlemandemon mostly positive? Do you regularly browse social media bro? He’s state enemy #1
Tito roasting Shamrock with that Wizard of Oz line was amazing.
Khamzat was never generally beloved. He's always been very polarising, you either love him or hate him. Most people that love him's opinions didn't change much because of the weigh ins they were just disappointed. It's just that the haters (who were previously silent) finally have something to hold on to that's why it seems like so many people suddenly hate
yep agreed!
Agreed. And that picture of those "dudes' in the sauna is just way too creepy. Yuck! I mean, WTF?
I'd definitely disagree
Most people I've spoke to either liked him or indifferent to him, with the sentiment he might be the "next khabib" and excited to see his prospect, but then he went and disrespected everyone, the sport overall & a fan favourite fighter by not even trying to make weight(or so it seemed) and obviously didn't give a fuck
Whi loves a 72 hoor candidate? Only mullas love him coz he is mulla
Pretty much. Cuz I love the dude and that's exactly how I felt. I was just disappointed. And then to hear his coach say he basically just came into camp too heavy shows me it was avoidable. But in hindsight I'm glad it happened cuz I think the card turned out better..... I didn't wanna see Diaz get mauled like that for his farewell fight. And Khamzat beating the shit out of Nate would've probably got him even more hate than the missed weight did (even though that's more on Dana and Hunter, Khamzat would've just been doing his job). So it's all good, as long as he doesn't miss weight AND beats Colby the mma fans will completely forget about that last situation.
“And I’m coming for it ken” always makes me laugh
Right. Big bad Dana mouthing off. I bet he only called his lawyers in the end.
Your guys’ movie references are hilarious! The Sean of the Dead one about waiting for things to blow over while chilling at the Winchester made me crack up 😄
It's "Shaun" , B. Heard it both was though. And I agree.
Memento is a crazy one too. It's not exactly mainstream.
I'm shocked Jorge Masvidal isn't on this list. He's been losing fans since 2019.
He lost fans for a bunch of different things not just one moment
Tbh they still liked him in 2020, something happened between his 1st and 2nd fight with usman
@@jorgemasviballs Great name mate 🤣
Yeah but he's also seemed to gain a few new fans aswell. 1s that think there's nothing wrong with assaulting people in the streets because mean things were said. Mean things often misrepresented by those same fans.
@@EthanHall7276. yeah. I like him more now he suckered Colby. It’s just a shame he didn’t do severe, permanent damage so I’d never have to see Colby on TV ever again.
…although to be fair, Colby has been in hiding like the little coward he is since it happened, so maybe it’s turned out ok.
You had me at "When did Mystic Mac abandon reason for madness"
gotta admit that the day Ronda got KOd was just such an amazing day and part 2 with Nunes just lovely
Children were dancing on the streets 😂
@@michaelperkins399 🤣🤣🤣
The Nunes KO of Ronda is still Top 5 most satisfying UFC moments of all time
She tried to outstrike a multi-time world champion in boxing, whatever was going through her head was clearly erased by the end of that fight.
The thing with Rose isn't just that she put on a boring fight. If she'd played it safe against someone super dangerous it would have perhaps been understandable. What made it so bad is that for every second of the fight she looked so much more skilled than her opponent and like she could finish it any time she chose to and just do nothing but evade..
Agreed. It made sense to be somewhat standoffish for the first round...I'm sure Rose has memories of getting easily ragdolled by Carla. But once she established she could get back up pretty easily, even if Carla took her down, there was no excuse to at least not try to score points. And she didn't just play defensive. She acted like a videogame character whose buttons broke.
thats because she had a gameplan…she fought esparza before and knows how quickly she can take her back, or shoot for takedowns. But go ahead and nit pick her performance and validate the ignorant haters, thats fine too. (Where tf is all the hate for Esparza? She’s the one who brought absolutely no competition to the fight and didn’t even deserve to be there in the first place.) GSP got straight embarrassed and lost his title in his prime to a total nobody who j snuck into the title fight after being a runner up on TUF….you gonna tell me Matt serra had a higher skill level than GSP, or that GSP DIDNT hesitate in several moments he shouldn’t have? C’mon man, I also fully support her and her husband defending her fighting style; she doesn’t need to change sh*t for some mark ass casual fans, and her resume proves her fighting style is beyond capable of winning world titles 💀🤦🏼♂️
@@JSwett0042 She had a bad gameplan.. I'm not a hater at all, I'm a big Thug Rose fan, that's why it disappointed me. I don't have any hate for either of them, I just have more disappointment in Namajunas than I do in Esparza precisely because I know she is capable of dominating her. Sure, it takes two to put on a stinker, but I don't actually expect Esparza to be able to do any better than she did.
I'm no casual. I haven't missed a UFC event in over 15 years. I watched WEC, Strikeforce, Pride etc etc. I've trained MMA. I'm a hardcore fan in every sense of the word. But it's not just my opinion is it? The judges scored it for Esparza. Of surveyed media scoring of 19 publications, it was scored 11-7-1 in favour of Esparza. It literally set the record for the lowest amount of strikes thrown in a 5 round fight ever! She doesn't need to change sh**t for casual fans, no. She needs to change that gameplan to actually convincingly win the damn fight.
I disagree, she got finished by Esparza one time already. What made it so upsetting is that she kept screeching "I'm the BEST" after the fight and her pedophilloic troglofauna coach Pat Barry defended that.
My problem wasn't the skill gap its that she was genuinely afraid she was in fear of that girl. And even that wasn't what upset me it was her doing fuck all and screaming "IM THE BEST" to try and seem like she wasn't terrified of losing again.
They way Dana white looked at the camera when he said "I''m coming for it KEN"
Is they way he should have threatned the illegal streamers
Im sure they would have stopped LMAO
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I honestly assumed Jorge Masvidal was going to be pretty high on this list but to not even have him on it at all is surprising. Lol I mean he might have been in the top 5 most popular fighter's in the sport just 3 years ago.
And not only is he hated now, nobody really cares about him anymore
Conor is hated but still the most popular meanwhile Masvidal is a nobody in the division
I’d say maybe even a year an a half ago he was at the top now he’s at the bottom! Yeah surprised he wasn’t up there
jorge shoulda been cut from the ufc immediately for his actions.
maybe he's #12 on the list
I knew after what Chimaev did we were gonna get a list of top 10 hated fighters you guys are always bringing us good content
I would love to see at “top 10 most respected fighters” or “top 10 real BMFs”. Not the goats but guys like Igor Vovchanchyn who has a tremendous amount of respect for fighting at heavyweight despite being 5’7. Or an obvious one is someone like Cowboy
I've always said Igor Vovchanchin was the scariest, most fearless fighter from the 90s to the 00s. He was the first to stop Mark Kerr (albeit it was a no contest due to illegal knee) but still stopped Kerr when Kerr was steamrolling everyone. And just about all his opponenets were so much larger, but he still either managed to beat them, or give them all they could handle.
Fedor happens to be the heavyweight GOAT(and the only real pound for pound heavyweight ever ) he should make the list because he’s never called himself the best and never thought he was the best. He doesn’t really say much, no trash talking, no excuses after losses and he doesn’t give a fuck about who looks away first in a stare down ,he’s literally just there to fight. He’s way more of a bad motherfucker than Jorge Masvidal or Colby Covington could ever hope to be😆. No gimmick here, just running miles every week and never once gassing out in a fight. He also can’t help but smile sometimes when he’s at the weigh ins or doing the stare down. He just is a bad motherfucker and he just shows that with absolutely no trash talking or flair👍
Igor is an awesome example, and also once a part of the Red Devil Sports Club, maybe Don Frye , definitely Big Nog👍
Anyone I talk to about MMA usually mentions Anderson Silva with a great deal of respect. Top 5 of this list if nothing else. Oh and Chael, the Undefeated. His cult following is legendary.
yup Igor was the GOAT BMF
I used to like MMA on point. Now, I just love it. ❤
FightFront bettee
Khamzat is doing a great job at turning up his heel turn. Guy knows how to play the crowd
Thing is he's not "playing" a heel, like Colby actually playing a character, khamzat is an actual asshole that thinks his shit don't stink
God Arianny's face in the Overeem weigh in still makes me laugh out loud.
She probably thought she was at a bodybuilder contest
Wet floor sign
forgot that lmaoo
Weirdo
I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
I think you forgot Steven Thompson. Meanest guy on the roster
Fr everyone lost respect for him when he trashed Woodley -this guy is so mean. No Stephen he aint you are🫣😥😰
bad boi 4 life🕯
DONT U DARE BRO
I heard he kicked a puppy that was in a wheelchair. The bastard!.
always talks trash and never gives any respect to his opponents .
Alright I’m just gonna put this out there is it weird that Paulo and Khamzat are beefing and they both missed weight and they are both big for their divisions idk
Catch weight bout at 220lbs coming soon.
Paulo missed weight a year ago shit ain’t got nun to do with it
Whittaker vs Costa at 205 next!
Dana said he wants Khamzat to at least take his next fight at 185, I can see them building on the Khamzat Costa beef and making that match up
Khamzats big for ww not mw. He wrestled jack Haggerty at lhw and only weight 202
I used to be a fan of Stephen Thompson. But after he ignored my twitter messages. And didn’t return my phone calls. And then the restraining order after I dropped in for a family reunion.
Idk, just left a bad taste in my mouth.
Surely the true NMF would have invited you in first at the reunion for a nice meal with the family before headkick KO'ing you then calling the police. I just don't know where this country's values have gone truly
I really want to see chimaev vs Robert or Costa. Maybe Colby but idk if he'd be able to make weight
But I think all of those would be so interesting
Cumshot Chimaev needs to stay at Middleweight
@@LND209 I agree BUT I don't want to tell a fighter what to do ya know
@@saltycomet Why don't you wanna tell them what they NEED to do? Cumshot needs to stay at MW because itis clear he won't make WW. 8 lbs
Costa was another one who people hated but he seems to have turned it around to a degree
@@michaelperkins399 It's the GenZ losers who follow him on Twitter. Costa is still a shady ass individual.
As a Diaz fanboy, I was thrilled with Khamzat’s fuck up. And I was there at 279 at the T Mobile I still cheered Khamzat on. Nate v. Tony was a better fight than what Khamzat v. Diaz woulda been and we all know it
Who do you think would’ve won the fight? I know very little about MMA.
@@07foxmulderNate. At that point Tony was on the decline. It would have been close though
I still love seeing prime Tito Ortiz fights. I think he was justified to want him and his friend at the time Chuck to get more money.
Exactly people clown on him now but he clearly has cte i think its sad how people great him nowadays. I mean he was one of the best in his era and he was the best TUF coach and he back then had pretty funny trashtalk/antics.
@@albinwallen634 He was super funny and genuine. As a coach he was constructive and inspiring. I think it's incredibly sad how the UFC put him on stage post getting CTE against people who are the best at talking trash in the business.
@@ekayn1606 for real plus his shirts where always funny
TUF 3 Tito after every huddle
“ 2, 3, 4 TEAM PUNISHMENT “
agree. nowadays fighters are taught to scream for money and this isn't consider controversial at all
Now we need moments fighters went from hated to loved. Like Joanna becoming a true legend again after Rose or Paulo Costa becoming a twitter champion.
Can add paddy to this now
fickle
@@learnedeldersofteemo8917 exactly, a big win over bobby green or jim miller and everybody will love him again
damn it tripped me out. Tito actually said a funny line 😂
10:58 not "people", khamzhat himself. Dude fought 9 days apart and went down a weight class
People seem to forget that, the MMA community has to be one of the most toxic ones. Give Khamzat one or two fights at 170 and he'll be the beloved superhero again 100%
@@klodd5328 I never liked him from the start bc I’m a hater 💯
He deserves no mercy at all. Just do like Gaethje. Compete at your actual weight.
Sounds bad but u guys send me to sleep every night. I watch the start of the vid. Love it. Then turn around and just listen to ur vids while falling asleep. Doing this for about 3 months
"He punched the highlights out of his hair" im dying 🤣🤣🤣
The editing done by you guys is beautiful. The Memento reference was gold whoever came up with that! MMA on point! Love all you guys! Stay up!
I don't really get too upset with fighters especially if they brought me joy at some points and even the ones I don't like in general I have a lot of respect for (unless they do some horrendous shit)
Imagine being hated for publicly refusing to choosing money over your friend.
Also about the anime Israel adesanya thing
Carlos newton used to do the "Kamehameha" after wins. Which was probably before y'all were watching. Certainly not gen z 😉
And there's John Dodson etc
Yeah this actually shows mma fans in a good light. People turn on fighters when they actually do something worth disliking. Like missing weight, committing felonies, popping for peds, or being delusional about losses. What kind of shows a fighter likes to watch is just irrelevant. Kinda weird that mma on point thought people would dislike someone because of a dumb thing like that.
Marcus Brimage with the DBZ scouter
@@panner11 💯. They're all probably super casuals tbh lol which is fine
@@nagatotoro it's over 9000. Sad he was fed to hype Conor
Bailey and Tommy are the ultimate goats for these videos!!
Damn No Madvidal ?!
Dude was probably the most loved fighter in the UFC from 2019-late 2020 outside of Conor & Khabib .
Agreed 👍
this dudes voice and attitude is legendary, we need more of him.
This being in my recommended after paddy did the quickest hero to zero ever is ironic
Love your videos as always 🙌 thanks for all the great work you put into these. "literally became public enemy number one" and "literally everyone wanted to see" just noticed that maybe you dont know what literally means haha.
not sure if it’s a language barrier but Khamzat genuinely seems like he doesn’t care about the weight issue because he’s here to “fight” 😂 with the UFC not punishing him it’ll only strengthen his stance on it.
He doesn't g.a.f. Lmao
Best RUclips channel ever very addictive
Khamzat went from goon to dork so fast
Doork? More like animal too goon
The only dorks are the ones who went from slurping him sooo hard after just three fights to hating on him even though he's now pretty much a proven veteran. You should be glad he didn't fight Diaz. It'd've been a waste of everyone's time, just like the Usman-Colby rematch was.
*Edit:* Wait, a goon is a good thing now? This generation...
That Lord of the rings reference absolutely had me DYING 🤣🤣🤣💀
“All it takes is one bad day”-Joker
Rose is still my favourite. 1 frustratingly dull title performance isn't going to change that.
Izzy is STILL on the same path as Silva.
Massively successful but still hated🤷♂️
"When I put you on skates, I'm leaving you frozen like Elsa!"
😂
i didnt see her explanation video, but nah I dont think one boring fight is enough to turn MMA fans against Thug Rose. i know mma fans are notoriously fickle, but Rose is way too likeable and entertaining to give up on that fast. Just the way she gets so happy when she wins is just so fresh to see in combat sports.
Dude you guys are always on top of everything it’s awesome lol
I still love Rose. She just didn't have it that night. No big deal.
I laugh at that interaction between Jon and Daniel everytime😂🤣 "I'm here🤓"
Lance Armstrong was a SCAPE GOAT!!! You obviously don't know that when they retested the top 10 from one of the years, EVERYONE FAILED! I'd like to quote the Diaz Brothers and say "everyone is on that shhhh..."
Yeah but it was more of a reference to the fact that he did indeed lie on camera multiple times about not doing steroids, him and everyone else but, if I said the name of some other random cyclist no one would have known who I was on about.
Yeah, everyone was juiced but Armstrong was such a vindictive, nasty piece of work with it. He tried to ruin people who called him out on his drug taking instead of just shutting up.
This list needs to be revisited, with Ian Garry occupying all 10 moments.
The bus wasnt conors fault. It was kebabs for being a coward and hiding behind women because he was frightened. The location was stepping off the bus.
I said this when I first saw the incident. Took this much time for me to hear someone else with my take. Cheers
@JackTorrance333 all kebab DOES is hide behind women when he's acting like a coward. He hid behind thug rose on the bus, he hid behind his mother when he fled the sport the first time after he missed weight against gaethje and was terrified he was going to have to move up and fight without a borderline cheating size advantage, then he came straight back then his behind his cousin/wife when he fled the sport a second time when he thought volk was going to beat Islam and kebab was going to be linked to an L....then came right back the next day
You should do top hated to beloved fighters now. I feel like bisping will definitely be on there
When I die I want to be lowered into the grave by Jon so he can let me down one last time.
Damn.
I subscribed because of the use of the Scott Pilgrim clip. Bravo, Sir.
Wouldn't even say Khamzat was beloved, I loved him but it was more what he represented, a relentless smesh machine coming for all our favorites. I think him being a heel will be good for him and more fitting. Guy looks evil to begin with lmao
You should probably try WWE
Yes. Khamzat could make more headlines like Connor nowadays being a heel.
It fits him perfectly unlike Khabib who is disciplined.
@@Browser404 every dam ufc fighter watches wwf back then.I mean the Colby walk out proved it.And it’s way better to watch a heel more entertaining than went someone is humble and does nothing fun to hype up a fight
@@rikumajumder1558 disciplined? Missed weight four times, jumped the cage to fight connors team. Yes very disciplined.
@@reecemccullough4829 Bro, missing weight isn't the main issue, it's how you address it afterwards. So yes, Khabib is more disciplined in that area.
As for jumping the cage, you really are gonna sit there and ignore the whole backstory?
Yes, Khabib was not justified in doing that but how you gonna ignore all the build up and the criminal action Connor and his friends did?
Great prediction about Khamzat lol. He is back to a being a fan favorite 😂😂
"Eaten up by the media faster than a paddy pimblett postfight meal" 😂😂
I’ve been waiting for this episode, just wasn’t sure what angle they were going to take. Needless to say, great episode ✊🏽
I really wanted this to be fighters who are villains (but not necessarily criminals or acting like Colby)
Ronda and Jones got exposed for the shady people they truly are. Ronda after she lost and Jones after being popped for the 2 failed drug tests for PED's and the list continues to grow.
I don't think Ronda was ever shady
Paddy not being on this list is crazy. He was huge and basically a prodigy then went to hate and irrelevant within a week
12:28 Can you imagine how terrified the officials were when they saw Khabib, someone normally respectful and calm, suddenly jump over the cage in pure hatred to beat down Dillon? Arguably the best fighter in the WORLD jumps into a brawl and THEY have to somehow get in-between them to stop it before a riot starts.
They stopped it pretty easily?
@@reecemccullough4829 I didn't say they couldn't stop it. I said can you imagine how terrified the officials were right when he jumped over. They didn't know how it was going to end. They saw the best fighter in the world picking a fight outside the ring. They were probably shitting themselves.
@@Rocky-oq9cy he's not that feared outside the octagon where people are bigger than him. he's small. I'm not telling he is weak or something but you keep saying he is the best fighter in the world. Believe me there were people in the crowd that night who can defeat Khabib. Other fighters trained guards and lots of people who not olny watch but are into martial arts themselfs were there. It literally scared 0 people
Thank you for including the Boston Bruins in a video about hated athletes
Khamzat sorta won us back with his performance but also not really🤣
Did he though?
@@LND209 don't know🤣
@@LND209 I was mad bc Holland was trying to glove touch and got absolutely rag dolled for being respectful lol, Ik it’s legal and he won fair and square but damn
Ya not really! As impressive as it is does anyone really enjoy anticipating a fight an then having it end so fast? I think it’s impressive as hell an he’s one hell of a fighter (wrestler) but his fights are not entertaining at all! Except for his fight with Burns I’ll give him that but that was only good because he didn’t wrestle! I’m not against wrestling either but nobody wants to watch one sided fights!
@@Weeks25 only casuals dont want to watch one sided fights hes just too good for everyone
Immediately liked after seeing the Shaun of the Dead reference
My introduction to the UFC and MMA was the Tito / Shamrock season of TUF and watching the fight at the end of the season. Tito and Ken made me a fan and I bet there are many more people that became fans around that same time thanks to those two
Tito's Wizard of Oz crack was the only solid, funny, *and* decipherable insult I've heard from him 🤣
The old man incident is the one that soared me against Conner.
The media made it out like he hit some flat cap old ww2 vet when in reality he was under 50. Still shouldn’t be hitting anyone though.
Shamrock looks like Al Bundy now. 😂
God bless Overeem if he’s back on the horse meat. I love Ubereem
keep the big fellas name outta it 🕊
Jon has regained the communities respect
Love him or hate him, when Khamzat Chimaev fights, EVERYONE will be watching. Edit: Jon Jones too
As an adult, I understand why Tito felt that way. As a teenager, I was like, "It's your job though?"
I'm going to be honest I'm still a huge fan of Khazmat. Understandably, people are upset missing weight and the attitude he carried after the fact but the skill and dominance he has shown in the octagon is incomparable to anyone else on the roster currently. Would love to see a match up between him and Shavkat if Shavkat continues to look impressive as he has been lately
Don't ever let skill and dominance cloud your judgement my boy
Yeah same. He's fun to watch and I don't really care if he missed weight over a fight that shouldn't have been made in the first place. Honestly that whole event was ridiculous to start with
@@tsunax1400 yeah, impressively khazmat simultaneously ruined the event and made it better. Or at least made it make more sense since that Diaz match up was going to be legal televised murder
If Dana didn’t like him so much he wouldn’t have even gotten the chance to fight, haven’t heard of a fighter missing weight by that much……There’s a reason why champions have to weigh in EXACTLY at their respective weight
Doesn't even matter if he's dominant. People clown on him meanwhile jump on Nate Diaz's dick screaming "209"!!! Like Nate didn't miss weight by like 30 pounds against Conor in their first fight 💀
finaly a voice I can listen to in this chanel
I'm still down with Khamzat. After his past medical issues, I can understand him listening to a doctor who told him to stop cutting. His "fuck you" attitude felt like a way to ignore the inevitable hate storm for missing weight.
is it just me, or could he have also came into fight week weighing much less than he did?
@@cbm3 That's fair. I don't know if there's some benefit to cutting closer to fight week, but I think a lot of fighters do last minute cuts. At the end of the day, if a doctor says stop, then a fighter should stop the cut.
Ngl that Wizard of Oz line by Tito was pretty good.
And that Tito thing. When I watched that PPV (like 2 weeks after it was live) I liked what Tito said. They were friends and I thought it was cool that he didn't immediately say some shit about wanting to kick his friends ass. I saw it as him having a line he didn't immediately want to cross. That was then though. Lol
The fact that people were “questioning” whether or not Overeem was on gear or not is insane to me, people really don’t know anything about gear usage
Have you done the other way round? Cause I remember when DC was hated for a while especially in ufc 200 where he just essentially sat on Anderson silva for 3 rounds.
10:22 Baylun you didn´t 😂
Pat Barry is one sketchey dude.
Pat Barry made people hate Rose. Any interview with her includes him and he speaks for her and answers every question
If it wasn't for Pat everyone would still love Rose as much as I do! Pat is such a cringey oafish nerd that people don't like Rose by association! She needs to dump that dude asap!
The fact he groomed her is the worst thing
Rhonda Rousey was a champion of noobs. She never really faced any talented fighters who were badasses in their own right. But when she finally did fight some talented fighters she got outclassed every time. You can actually see the level of skill she really has when she fought Nunez. Nunez took her apart with such ease. And let’s not forget her shadow boxing/sparring video, lol.
Unpopular Opinion: Fighters owe the fans nothing to make the fight entertaining, they should be treated as athletes not gladiators.
Also, since when should athletes feel ashamed for losing? They are the ones who reap the consequences for losing, in no sport do people condemn athletes for not being good enough to win.
Defenetly but fans wouldnt really want to watch if it was boring yk its not like they Owe the fighters anythign
They can do what they want but that’s how they make money like it or not. If you don’t want to be entertaining then go ahead but the UFC wants to make money so don’t expect any favours from them
@@albinwallen634 ok, but this whole thing about "are you going to apologize to the fans for a boring fight?"........
@@tmosh55 I don't agree, if the UFC wants mma to be a legitimate sport, then the best fighters should be competing, not the best names. You can have money fights, but exactly what "favors" are you talking about?
And I disagree about your premise. People watch sports because they enjoy the sport, the UFC made this culture of drama by choice. There are civilized people who watch sports just to enjoy the sport, and might appreciate a fight if it is going to be close because both fighters have good TECHNIQUE.
The more I think about this, the more ridiculous and contrived this whole mma culture seems. This is what turns people off from mma, because they are appealing to as Floyd would say it, "beer drinkers". But real sports are for everybody
@@ricky5369 well that is just what they do to keep fans
These edits! 🔥
Izzy's fight with Romero was a snoozefest because of Romero, not Izzy. The champion had nothing to gain and the challenger had nothing to lose. Yet Romero decided to stand there like a scarecrow, in the middle.of the ring 😂
And Izzy was scared
This needs to be updated with Izzy, Ian Gary, and Paddy the Faddy
I’m more disappointed in Rose, but straight up do not like Pat Barry
Yeah didn't they meet when Rose was like 15 or something
Adesanye now is probably 1 now with how he’s acting 😂
You missed gyno gate in the Izzy part 🧐
If you're like me and thought, lol, Brain Dead Toto used Limp Biskit as a walk out song, The Undertaker who is cannonically one of the toughest dudes to ever exist used it too.