Hey Nick! This comment is overdue. I have been watching your videos for over a year now. You deserve some serious credit. Many people watch youtube videos with zero appreciation for the effort that goes on behind the scenes to make that video. Your video edit quality is superb!!! The many well thought out camera views, integration of multiple sources of FPV video, the audio voice overs and clarity of the sound itself throughout the videos and sheer detail into the actual quads themselves with clear video makes your reviews some of the best on youtube. You are a true professional and I hope I have shown you the respect your efforts deserve. I just ordered the Cinebot30 from Racedayquads and subscribed to your channel : ) Cheers.
oh thank you so much Doug. I appreciate the compliment. I have found that I enjoy not only flying fpv, but making videos, and interacting with everyone interested in FPV. Its a great de-stresser for me and keeps me "level" :) Thank you again.
I wonder if GEPRC would now come up with Cinebot30 Performance version shortly (probably with a bigger motor - 2004 or 2005 perhaps?). I'm dreading it if I get the Cinebot30 then the Performance version comes out in 2-3 months time after (as what happened when I got the CineLog35). 😅🤣
Always great. All the specs and details anyone would want to know. Straight to the point no fluff. Excellent review. Thank-you Mr. Burns for the very detailed and quite thorough review.
This looks really good! Thanks for the great review! I was just looking at the frame and thinking I could put my CineLog30 stuff in it but guessing it would be pretty sluggish with that power system since the frame weighs 40g more than the CineLog30 frame. Have a great weekend!
Nick i have a walksnail avatar pro camera. Do you think the swap and fit would work if i got the Ratel 2 version? Im thinking the lights with the low light camera would be interestimg in pitch black areas. 😊 plus a ratel 2 would upgrade another quad i have.
The Cinebot 30's prop guard frame cracks if you hit something head on. You don't have to be going very fast (medium speed). I've noticed cracks in the frame where the camera cage meets the prop guards, and also, for some reason, just under the antenna mount in the back (also in the plastic, prop guard frame). The cracks are forming where the two camera cage screw holes are. The plastic is very thin there and is prone to easily breaking. I've ordered a new frame to replace the cracked prop guard, but if the next frame cracks as fast as this one (I received mine about a week before Christmas), I'll probably shop around for a different cinewhoop. I'm new to FPV and have mostly just been flying over grass as I am still learning. I contacted GEPRC two days ago about the frame issue but haven't gotten a response yet. I absolutely love this quad and hope I just got one out of a bad batch. I just want to give a heads up since I haven't heard much in terms of frame problems. Jan 2nd update: Geprc reached out to me to help with the issue. The replacement frame I ordered is being expedited. ❤️
Hey Nick, how about you put an old fpv camera/vtx combo on your Neighbor Lemar's Train. Those old whoop camera/vtx put on other small toys might make cool videos. Similar to those fpv hotwheel size rc cars.
I don't have any experience with small 6s batteries, but on 5 inch you can pretty much match battery weight(6s to 4s) and still get a little more flight time with the same weight. The wind hitting the gopro in a zero throttle dive might be making it wobble, maybe a little more idle speed would help to stabilize it. thanks Nick!
Love the review. Im excited to see that this spec was nice! Im currently building two new picklewhoop frames from LeDronClub - a 30 and a 25. Ill be building the 30 with 1804 3500kv motors and hope it will fly along the lines of this cinebot30. LeDroneClub's pw25 build looks like it might be a good spec for a cinelog25 upgrade/replacement, with 1604 motors instead of 1404.
Wanted the Cinelog30/25 since I first saw them earlier this year. Have a CL30 frame on the way, so I guess I end up with a Cinelog30. Still nice to see what's new. As always, love the reviews, have to say I'm a bit jelly about the weather. It is Friday now and we also had some sun earlier, but the rains have returned and in force this weekend. Time to whoop it up inside! Whoops ftw!
@@msky33 whoa. I had no idea. We didn't get to the point of the conversation of a price. I also had a younger man ask me about the "weed" tree. I was out in left field when he said that.
Hi! I just can't decide what to get..4 or 6s. or get 6s but fly on 4s battery to get more time efficiency.?? This way I do on recon6 long-range quad,! That's what the developer suggested (dave c) for recon6. But here is the woop so how it would behave?.??
when we fly a quad where the motor kv is designed on a higher battery cell count we can get more efficiency or just flat longer flight. The other side is for more aggressive or freestyle flight it would be greatly under powered.
Interesting that YT has generated "Moments" and one of the highlights is "Not Very Crash Proof". Someone glancing at the video might have the impression that the statement refers to the quad but you were referring to your added ELRS receiver on the arm.
Those rods in camera plate for dampening vibrations wouldn't introduce more to the frame ? And after watching you mount those ep rx outside i have done it for all my quads man amazing and i get better reception too i just use some foam form my tx16 box 😂😜 slowly chipping away
I had a lot of yaw wobble on my new cinelog35 performance. The reason was the esc firmware. It came with bluejay on 96 kHz and after flashing bluejay with 48 kHz the wobble was gone. I think on 96 kHz the motors acceleration and deceleration is too asymmetrical.
How about a video showing how to get this thing set up to fly rite out of the box? Binding procedure with Goggles 2 and binding to the radio using a Crossfire module in a TX16. Please and Thank you.
While a video like that can be valueable it has a very limited audience. I would think there are youtube tutorials on both. When searching use something generic like "goggles 2 binding or linking", and "crossfire binding". We don't need tutorials specific to the quad as those component processes don't change from quad to quad. I don't have crossfire or goggles 2, my goggles2 order hasn't shipped yet.
Nick: Great Video as allways !!! I have bought 2 of these quads. Have to love them. I dunked the first one in the water, Not Good . I just got the 2nd one set it up as the Same as the first. Analog w TBS reciever. Al wien well , however when I set Aux 4 with the nww Bataflight The light stany om all he time.... I have fooled arount with this in BateFlight for a while...... Any ideas??? Thanks in advance for youe repley ! Ben Herr
Just back into fpv after a few years away. Watched this video and decided on this quad for outdoors windier days. Just received the CineBot30 analog version. Used the Betaflight Configurator to set up an indoors "beginner" mode. Throttle limits and expo. Toned down the PID rate profile setting . All is almost fine. Easy to more or less hover around. But... there is definite roll bias to starboard (users right when heading away). Requires a bit of stick input (~14??, center is 1500) to keep it from accelerating to starboard. Recalibrated the RM Pocket's sticks. Still drifts. Any suggestions outside of using trim inputs to tune the quad. Any tutorial on PID tuning?
Sounds like your flying in angle or horizon mode...I presume this from the "beginner" mode in the comment. This with the drift references that the accelerometer needs calibrated...this needs to be done level, as level to the earth as possible for the best results. This will need to be done whenever there is drift. As we fly and bump things, crash or even land the accelerometer will slightly lose level.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, angle mode. Used a bubble level to make sure on a level surface. Betaflight Configurator, clicked the accelerometer calibration. Still drifts. Let the right stick (flying mode 2) go to center and watched the quad roll over about 5 degrees and zip starboard. Tried adding a couple clicks on the trim switch. No real effect. Plan is to reserve the trim switches for other functions (audible RSSI telemetry, audible flight battery voltage....) once I figure out how. Assuming similar process to other Aux switches. Need to find a screen shot of what is the normal factory PID settings and compare against what I see when my CB30 is set on at Betaflight Configurator. Maybe a mis-tune at the factory. @@NickBurnsFPV
I know it’s been a while, Mr Burns but if I could ask you for your expertise in something. I purchased the 6s c-bot30 planning to use it to film indoors with my 4s batteries because I heard this combination offers greater fine control with quadcopters. If I later want to fly the quad more freestyle with my same 4s batteries, can I just purchase and install the 4s version GepRC motors simple as that? Will the stock BF setup work with 4s motors with perhaps some settings changes? Cheers and TIA
its only a guess but yes switching motors from 6s to 4s capable will likely require PID changes, maybe filter changes as well. If we don't I wouldn't expect the quad to track all that well or handle prop wash as well either. There could be other flight characteristic issues but those stand out to me.
Thank you for the review and shoutout! Too kind. That frame seems like it can take a beating, with the 6s weight...I wonder, have any good crashes with this where you thought something may have broke, but didn't?
I want to buy a cinequad to film outside & inside. I have a fullsize Gopor 11 and I dont want to buy a naked gopro because of the cost. would you suggest the CInebot30 or rather get the Cinelog35? I feel that last one might be a bit to big...
Either will lift with a full gopro, the 35 will require a higher level of precision to fly inside a house or similar. The extra .5inch prop really increases the size but also increases the amount of thrust generated and efficiency.
Any recommendations for a solid 3" frame? I have the novice 3 I snapped an arm on and can't find a new frame. Bg says restocking for past 6 months so guessing it's never coming back. Think it's a 20x20 stack and 1203 motors.
Im always curious, nowdays, everysingle cinewhoop like cinelog35, cinebot and ect always using nakedgopro, thumb or caddx peanut please flight with full size gopro, 8,or 10, need to see the FT and footage,
I'm new to the fpv hobby and I just received my cinebot 30. I have a question. What is that small board you have fastened with a blue zip tie on the drones arm? What is it used for? Thank you in advance.
I don't find the led listed on the geprc website. Here is an led wiring guide. oscarliang.com/setup-led-betaflight/ Depending the led power needs we may be able to wire power to vcc/vbat (battery voltage) or the 5v pad and ground from the flight controller.
I think if you put a full size go pro it makes it front heavy. With the other orientation of the battery it could balance the weight from front to back. Maybe possibly.
Weight distribution used to be much more of a concern. With the advancements of the flight control software (betaflight) not much of a concern anymore.
Hola, compre el geprc cinebot 30 analog de 2.4 ghz pero no lo he podido enlazar al control (jumper t pro), he seguido las instrucciones de manual pero no he podido. alguien me podria ayudar. Gracias.
I don't think flying something this weight and 4s inside is very wise unless one has a good deal of skill. As with any quad, inside flight will depend on the persons flight skills. Its pretty big so flight will be slow and careful
What about dust going into the motors?? I'm looking for a cinewhoop to fly in a factory. Where dust, even metal could fly around in the propwind. Did it happened to anyone? I guess the same could happen just by flying low above sand or similar dirt.
Generally I think of dust in terms of house dust, hair, dead skin cells etc. In your case we would be concerned with metal "dust". the motors are going to really attract metal out of the air, this is going to be long term problematic as its a terrible pain to clean out. from what I have been told by others, they fly the motors until the result isn't good and then swap the motor out and work on cleaning the motors that got metal in them. Then test after cleaning and check that results, if no good or not good enough they throw them out and go with new. Sand is also problematic, but if it doesn't have metal or very little the motors will run longer, but pure sand can be rinsed out with water.
I really can't compare as I haven't flown the protek r25. I suspect due to the smaller prop this would be a bit more capable in faster/aggressive flight and might fly longer as well.
@@rfly-fpv you still can adjust motor throttle idle value percentage while dynamic idle is turned on. See Chris Ross video ruclips.net/video/CAMcRbQh3xM/видео.html
@@mitoda Check more recent Chris Rossel video (at the last chapter at arround 29:16 - sorry I don't know how to copy link with timestamp on my phone :D): ruclips.net/video/Tc2y1tDPczQ/видео.html In Latest Configurator you don't have to worry about idle percentage when dynamic idle is on
Flywoo cinerace 20 v2 has lights around it as well, and I fly in the house at night, it's so bright I don't need lights on lol, would guess this can do it too
Hi I am kind new to FPV< have one Mavic Pro longer time. Will be buying this drone. I will be getting the GEPRC Cinebot30 HD O3 FPV - 6s version. Will be using it to record nature, max 1.5 - 2 km range. What receiver/version should I get? Also what RC would you guys with experience recommend. I was looking at TBS Tango, but that seems to be out of stock a lot. I also want to have some fun factor with the drone ofc, so not only use it for cinematic videos. Can someone also suggest batteries for fun and cinematic flights? Thank you all for your kind input and happy flying. Yes and goggles thinking about DJI interga.
I suggest getting an expresslrs radio, something like the radiomaster boxer, tx12 or zorro for video I suggest the dji 03 air unit as it has great penetration and image quality at the range your targeting. Batteries are a big variable. I would look at brands like china hobby line (CNHL), tattu r-line, and GNB. GNB is more budget friendly but not has high performer as the others. For size of the battery I think I wouldn't go higher than 1300mah for smooth cruising flights and drop down to about 1000-850mah for more aggressive flight.
@@NickBurnsFPV hi, first of thank you :) I am browsing the batteries, but am super confused. What is kind of available to me would be: TATTU R-LINE VERSION 3.0 1300MAH 22,2V 120C 6S1P XT60 or TATTU R-LINE 1050MAH 22.2V 95C 6S1P XT60 or GENS ACE LIPO TATTU R-Line FPV serie - 6S 1200mAh 22,2V 6S1P (150C) Version 5.0 are those C rates not too high for the 6s version? I have seen on the GEPrc website the discharge rates lower in the recommendation
@@FlatEarthPhotography Oh boy. Sorry, C rating is such a pain. First c rating isn't a standardized measure in batteries, or at least for the fpv market batteries, it mainly marketing mumbo jumbo, so I don't suggest comparing c rating between brands. Where we can make use of them is on the same brand. A high c rating generally will mean it can discharge faster and thus produce more thrust and performance and also mean they are more expensive.
did you buy it and how is it for working for you? i cant decide between this one and the cinelog 35(new to fpv), i want to use it mainlky for outside nature video's and also some fun just like you@@FlatEarthPhotography
Hi Nick YEP I want one badly but I can bet I could break it on the first day. I'm good at that. I don't have any GoPro but I have a RunCam Thumb. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
Not sure if this uses dynamic idle but that greatly rudeced my low throttle wobbles. I am assuming you would need to change the firmware on the BLheli_S. RPM filter would also tighten up the handling a bit and make it feel more responisve with less overall filtering.
yea, just about anything with more than a 2inch prop will carry a gopro. The difference is in how well it carries that sort of weight. When we add weight we have to lift that weight while the max amount of thrust the quad can generate is static.
Please help, My cinebot30 can’t handle the full gopro with 6s 1050mah batteries, anyone have an idea why? Does it need to be fine tuned or not? I ordered from Geprc offcicial website
If we have a compatible receiver in the quad. I can't tell what you have from what I have here. If elrs, elrs receiver in quad. If frsky/4in1 in the radio then frsky rx in the quad.
Looks well built, though I would much rather see a 2.5” version to swap my 95X guts into. I use a Cinesplore for my 3” needs(full size GP). Great review as always. The back yard is looking great btw!
I like the Mobula 6 propguard solution. Just screw it, make it just barely heavy enough to do its job, and sell the frames for $5. If you break a propguard or a strut, you either glue it back until your frame is >50% glue or just swap it out.
@@NickBurnsFPV So you believe it won't have any issues carrying the weight of a GP mini 11? Don't want to throw it on there and burn a motor out immediately.
![☀ Маленький, но злой. Синевуп по фен-шую [GepRC Cinebot30]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_eR-XCImn8c/mqdefault.jpg)
I appreciate your consistent, concise, and honest reviews, Nick! Keep it up!
Hey Nick! This comment is overdue. I have been watching your videos for over a year now. You deserve some serious credit. Many people watch youtube videos with zero appreciation for the effort that goes on behind the scenes to make that video. Your video edit quality is superb!!! The many well thought out camera views, integration of multiple sources of FPV video, the audio voice overs and clarity of the sound itself throughout the videos and sheer detail into the actual quads themselves with clear video makes your reviews some of the best on youtube. You are a true professional and I hope I have shown you the respect your efforts deserve. I just ordered the Cinebot30 from Racedayquads and subscribed to your channel : ) Cheers.
oh thank you so much Doug. I appreciate the compliment. I have found that I enjoy not only flying fpv, but making videos, and interacting with everyone interested in FPV. Its a great de-stresser for me and keeps me "level" :) Thank you again.
Thanks for getting "in the loop" with us, it was an amazing interview. You are a gentleman for shouting out infinity loops.
4:02 that's for Crossfire Immortal T antenna :D
ah, that's likely why I didn't recognize it, I haven't used crossfire much.
I’m guessing the Cinelog 35 Performance edition still outperforms this 3” version?
Surely it would, larger props more thrust. Might be more challenging in smaller spaces though too
@@NickBurnsFPV maybe I’ll just add the LEDs to the 3.5” one then. That’s the main thing I like about this one 😀
@@SilverFox80521 sure, we want to get appropriate voltage rated leds.
I hear good things about it! for some reason mine is taking an extra week...
Drone vacation? Surely it didn’t get misplaced or swiped
I wonder if GEPRC would now come up with Cinebot30 Performance version shortly (probably with a bigger motor - 2004 or 2005 perhaps?).
I'm dreading it if I get the Cinebot30 then the Performance version comes out in 2-3 months time after (as what happened when I got the CineLog35). 😅🤣
I hope Geprc make a 35 version of this CINEBOT. I like carrying a full go pro instead of the gutted camera.
I'm carrying a 1300 mah and a full size hero7. It handles it well
Always great. All the specs and details anyone would want to know. Straight to the point no fluff. Excellent review. Thank-you Mr. Burns for the very detailed and quite thorough review.
This looks really good! Thanks for the great review! I was just looking at the frame and thinking I could put my CineLog30 stuff in it but guessing it would be pretty sluggish with that power system since the frame weighs 40g more than the CineLog30 frame. Have a great weekend!
Is this newer than cinelog?
@@kev-dev4381 I have been wondering that myself but you can still buy the CineLog30.
Hello Nick. The TPU piece in shape of "Y" is just to mount Crossfire /ELRS antenna. In cinelog35 frame kit comes too. Regards from Chile
Nick i have a walksnail avatar pro camera. Do you think the swap and fit would work if i got the Ratel 2 version? Im thinking the lights with the low light camera would be interestimg in pitch black areas. 😊 plus a ratel 2 would upgrade another quad i have.
Can you please do a test indoors? I'd like to see how it handles in tight space. 😊
The Cinebot 30's prop guard frame cracks if you hit something head on. You don't have to be going very fast (medium speed). I've noticed cracks in the frame where the camera cage meets the prop guards, and also, for some reason, just under the antenna mount in the back (also in the plastic, prop guard frame). The cracks are forming where the two camera cage screw holes are. The plastic is very thin there and is prone to easily breaking.
I've ordered a new frame to replace the cracked prop guard, but if the next frame cracks as fast as this one (I received mine about a week before Christmas), I'll probably shop around for a different cinewhoop. I'm new to FPV and have mostly just been flying over grass as I am still learning.
I contacted GEPRC two days ago about the frame issue but haven't gotten a response yet.
I absolutely love this quad and hope I just got one out of a bad batch. I just want to give a heads up since I haven't heard much in terms of frame problems.
Jan 2nd update: Geprc reached out to me to help with the issue. The replacement frame I ordered is being expedited. ❤️
I appreciate the update and will certainly be useful information for all. Thank you
@NickBurnsFPV no problem at all! I love your channel, appreciate your honesty, and enjoy watching your content!! Happy New Year to you and yours!
Just ordered this one in walksnail avatar HD. Looks like a great drone that does it all!! Thanks for your reviews. 👍
I like those Cobb leds too. They really do look nice and super bright plus they run straight off 4s or 6s so u just need to run a couple wires.
That 3d printed part is for like a crossfire or other horizontal antenna
TBS tango 2 controller…. Now which version of the Cinebot (vtx) and what goggles? I am very confused.
Hey Nick, how about you put an old fpv camera/vtx combo on your Neighbor Lemar's Train. Those old whoop camera/vtx put on other small toys might make cool videos. Similar to those fpv hotwheel size rc cars.
I don't have any experience with small 6s batteries, but on 5 inch you can pretty much match battery weight(6s to 4s) and still get a little more flight time with the same weight. The wind hitting the gopro in a zero throttle dive might be making it wobble, maybe a little more idle speed would help to stabilize it. thanks Nick!
I would like to use six or eight blade to lower the sound pitch!
If it is possible!
That TPU part your not sure about is a TBS Immortal T antenna holder
Love the review. Im excited to see that this spec was nice! Im currently building two new picklewhoop frames from LeDronClub - a 30 and a 25. Ill be building the 30 with 1804 3500kv motors and hope it will fly along the lines of this cinebot30. LeDroneClub's pw25 build looks like it might be a good spec for a cinelog25 upgrade/replacement, with 1604 motors instead of 1404.
04:00 this 3d part is to crossfire antena! 👍
Pretty amazing flying and review, Nick! 😃
I want to fly like you when I grow up! 😬
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Wanted the Cinelog30/25 since I first saw them earlier this year. Have a CL30 frame on the way, so I guess I end up with a Cinelog30. Still nice to see what's new. As always, love the reviews, have to say I'm a bit jelly about the weather. It is Friday now and we also had some sun earlier, but the rains have returned and in force this weekend. Time to whoop it up inside! Whoops ftw!
for me the last 4 days, 2 days high winds and 2 days rain. Be wet yet tomorrow as it still raining.
I don't really get it. separate prop guards are always gonna be better.. cinelog 30 still holds my number one spot. the metal camera guard is cool tho
@@bugzfpv6322 We could fly this one without the prop guard. Its not integral to the frame.
@@NickBurnsFPV i can fly the cinelog w/o prop guards too. i was saying i’d rather replace one if it broke compared to the whole thing on the cinebot
@@bugzfpv6322 ah gotcha. I didn't put that together.
Camera is nice. Flies smooth and nice freestyle for a cinewhoop.! Nice flying 🤙 Beautiful fall colors. I love that Japanese Maple!
We have a Japanese Maple up front as well. They are attractive. We had someone come to the door wanting to buy the one up front. It was odd.
@@NickBurnsFPV They are worth a good bit of money. They are people that will pay top dollar for a healthy mature tree. They can live up to 100 years!
@@msky33 whoa. I had no idea. We didn't get to the point of the conversation of a price. I also had a younger man ask me about the "weed" tree. I was out in left field when he said that.
@@NickBurnsFPV 😆
Try reversing the prop direction to eliminate the zero throttle wobble. That helped with all the Pavo25 wobbles out there.
Which props do you reverse?
@@nzii3 All of them. Props in instead of props out.
I always do props in on my Cinewhoops and props out for my 5" freestyle's
Hi! I just can't decide what to get..4 or 6s. or get 6s but fly on 4s battery to get more time efficiency.?? This way I do on recon6 long-range quad,! That's what the developer suggested (dave c) for recon6. But here is the woop so how it would behave?.??
when we fly a quad where the motor kv is designed on a higher battery cell count we can get more efficiency or just flat longer flight. The other side is for more aggressive or freestyle flight it would be greatly under powered.
Hey man is that gopro mount specifically for the cinebot or did it fit a cinelog as well?
I believe it fits on any GoPro or typical naked action camera mount, so it should work on any quad in the cinelog series.
Interesting that YT has generated "Moments" and one of the highlights is "Not Very Crash Proof". Someone glancing at the video might have the impression that the statement refers to the quad but you were referring to your added ELRS receiver on the arm.
Those rods in camera plate for dampening vibrations wouldn't introduce more to the frame ?
And after watching you mount those ep rx outside i have done it for all my quads man amazing and i get better reception too i just use some foam form my tx16 box 😂😜 slowly chipping away
I had a lot of yaw wobble on my new cinelog35 performance. The reason was the esc firmware. It came with bluejay on 96 kHz and after flashing bluejay with 48 kHz the wobble was gone. I think on 96 kHz the motors acceleration and deceleration is too asymmetrical.
That definitely could be, higher hz certainly does change motor braking
How about a video showing how to get this thing set up to fly rite out of the box? Binding procedure with Goggles 2 and binding to the radio using a Crossfire module in a TX16. Please and Thank you.
While a video like that can be valueable it has a very limited audience. I would think there are youtube tutorials on both. When searching use something generic like "goggles 2 binding or linking", and "crossfire binding". We don't need tutorials specific to the quad as those component processes don't change from quad to quad. I don't have crossfire or goggles 2, my goggles2 order hasn't shipped yet.
Nick: Great Video as allways !!! I have bought 2 of these quads. Have to love them. I dunked the first one in the water, Not Good .
I just got the 2nd one set it up as the Same as the first. Analog w TBS reciever. Al wien well , however when I set Aux 4 with the nww Bataflight The light stany om all he time.... I have fooled arount with this in BateFlight for a while...... Any ideas???
Thanks in advance for youe repley !
Ben Herr
maybe they changed the board and the aux its tied to. What does it show on the ports page?
Flawless review as always. Thanks Nick !!
These motors keep getting bigger and bigger! Pretty soon they'll make 3.5" with 2306s like the Diatone F35 & F4s heheh. Flies smooth for sure.
There is a limit to the motor weight and prop size. Then they become so heavy they can only fly flat....and slow
Just back into fpv after a few years away. Watched this video and decided on this quad for outdoors windier days. Just received the CineBot30 analog version. Used the Betaflight Configurator to set up an indoors "beginner" mode. Throttle limits and expo. Toned down the PID rate profile setting . All is almost fine. Easy to more or less hover around. But... there is definite roll bias to starboard (users right when heading away). Requires a bit of stick input (~14??, center is 1500) to keep it from accelerating to starboard. Recalibrated the RM Pocket's sticks. Still drifts. Any suggestions outside of using trim inputs to tune the quad. Any tutorial on PID tuning?
Sounds like your flying in angle or horizon mode...I presume this from the "beginner" mode in the comment. This with the drift references that the accelerometer needs calibrated...this needs to be done level, as level to the earth as possible for the best results. This will need to be done whenever there is drift. As we fly and bump things, crash or even land the accelerometer will slightly lose level.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, angle mode. Used a bubble level to make sure on a level surface. Betaflight Configurator, clicked the accelerometer calibration. Still drifts. Let the right stick (flying mode 2) go to center and watched the quad roll over about 5 degrees and zip starboard. Tried adding a couple clicks on the trim switch. No real effect. Plan is to reserve the trim switches for other functions (audible RSSI telemetry, audible flight battery voltage....) once I figure out how. Assuming similar process to other Aux switches. Need to find a screen shot of what is the normal factory PID settings and compare against what I see when my CB30 is set on at Betaflight Configurator. Maybe a mis-tune at the factory. @@NickBurnsFPV
@@noohohno hmm... try this command in the cli .... set acc_lpf_hz = 1 set accxy_deadband = 80 set accz_deadband = 80 save
I know it’s been a while, Mr Burns but if I could ask you for your expertise in something. I purchased the 6s c-bot30 planning to use it to film indoors with my 4s batteries because I heard this combination offers greater fine control with quadcopters.
If I later want to fly the quad more freestyle with my same 4s batteries, can I just purchase and install the 4s version GepRC motors simple as that? Will the stock BF setup work with 4s motors with perhaps some settings changes?
Cheers and TIA
its only a guess but yes switching motors from 6s to 4s capable will likely require PID changes, maybe filter changes as well. If we don't I wouldn't expect the quad to track all that well or handle prop wash as well either. There could be other flight characteristic issues but those stand out to me.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you, sir
I’m definitely picking one of these up soon looks like it flies great
whats the biggest battery you can throw on there?
Great video as always. That TPU piece at the beginning is for a crossfire immortal T antenna. I have the CineLog35 and thats whats in mine. 🤙🤙
Thank you for the review and shoutout! Too kind.
That frame seems like it can take a beating, with the 6s weight...I wonder, have any good crashes with this where you thought something may have broke, but didn't?
wich batterie do you use for this drone
I want to buy a cinequad to film outside & inside. I have a fullsize Gopor 11 and I dont want to buy a naked gopro because of the cost. would you suggest the CInebot30 or rather get the Cinelog35? I feel that last one might be a bit to big...
Either will lift with a full gopro, the 35 will require a higher level of precision to fly inside a house or similar. The extra .5inch prop really increases the size but also increases the amount of thrust generated and efficiency.
Any recommendations for a solid 3" frame? I have the novice 3 I snapped an arm on and can't find a new frame. Bg says restocking for past 6 months so guessing it's never coming back. Think it's a 20x20 stack and 1203 motors.
Maybe the armattan tadpole, or diatone roma
Im always curious, nowdays, everysingle cinewhoop like cinelog35, cinebot and ect always using nakedgopro, thumb or caddx peanut please flight with full size gopro, 8,or 10, need to see the FT and footage,
gp8, 9, 10 footage is available all over youtube and the internet. My channel is micro eccentric I don't have any full sized gopros.
I'm new to the fpv hobby and I just received my cinebot 30. I have a question. What is that small board you have fastened with a blue zip tie on the drones arm? What is it used for? Thank you in advance.
That is the receiver. Its an elrs happymodel ep2 receiver, its the control link to the radio
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you for your reply.
I was wondering if you taking any blackbox log of the CineBot 30? Particularly looking at the motor performance?
no. I don't tend to dive into black box much.
I bought the frame, but no idea how to install and solder the led board. No instructions included, also failed to find it on the web :(
I don't find the led listed on the geprc website. Here is an led wiring guide. oscarliang.com/setup-led-betaflight/ Depending the led power needs we may be able to wire power to vcc/vbat (battery voltage) or the 5v pad and ground from the flight controller.
Were you able to power your naked Flywoo action camera with the cable that was pre-soldered for powering action cameras?
mine didn't come with a presoldered external hd camera wiring. use a balance lead adapter.
I think if you put a full size go pro it makes it front heavy. With the other orientation of the battery it could balance the weight from front to back. Maybe possibly.
Weight distribution used to be much more of a concern. With the advancements of the flight control software (betaflight) not much of a concern anymore.
thanks for this review Nick
Do you have to take the CInebot30 apart to fit the micro sd card into the o3 air unit on the cinebot30?
mine doesn't have the O3, so i can say if we can or not. I would hope so otherwise it would be a poor design.
Hello, is there a wa to setup OSD for the Walksnail version? How do I do it? Betaflight 4.4
use the preset for walksnail. Its on the preset page in the betaflight configuration applicaiton
@@NickBurnsFPV yes it works, perfect, thank you
Hola, compre el geprc cinebot 30 analog de 2.4 ghz pero no lo he podido enlazar al control (jumper t pro), he seguido las instrucciones de manual pero no he podido. alguien me podria ayudar. Gracias.
I really want this cinebot in a 3.5” prop 6s version
I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Would this have identification included? The one that’s required In September
Not unless the dji system can be software updated to support it.
@@NickBurnsFPV so with that being said are all drones purchased going to be illegal in just a few months time?
@@adventuresofjandk If they aren't under 250grams yes. Or yes as the rules are written now.
How is this indoors for home flying? I like it a lot, but I’ll probably be doing a decent amount of indoor flying.
I don't think flying something this weight and 4s inside is very wise unless one has a good deal of skill. As with any quad, inside flight will depend on the persons flight skills. Its pretty big so flight will be slow and careful
@@NickBurnsFPV That makes total sense. Thank you!
What about dust going into the motors?? I'm looking for a cinewhoop to fly in a factory. Where dust, even metal could fly around in the propwind. Did it happened to anyone?
I guess the same could happen just by flying low above sand or similar dirt.
Generally I think of dust in terms of house dust, hair, dead skin cells etc. In your case we would be concerned with metal "dust". the motors are going to really attract metal out of the air, this is going to be long term problematic as its a terrible pain to clean out. from what I have been told by others, they fly the motors until the result isn't good and then swap the motor out and work on cleaning the motors that got metal in them. Then test after cleaning and check that results, if no good or not good enough they throw them out and go with new. Sand is also problematic, but if it doesn't have metal or very little the motors will run longer, but pure sand can be rinsed out with water.
can you fly the 6s version on 4s aswell?
yes, but it would be under powered as the motor kv is set for 6s
@@NickBurnsFPV hi! I am going to bug 4 or 6 s don't know..... have no 6s but many 4s battery, what to choose?
@@gcdevicegc6103 tough decision. Have to calculate the batteries in the math one way or another.
By the way the CInelog30 is a bit lighter. Maybe that's more quiet and able to lift a fullsize Gopro?
Do you think the Protek R25 or the cinebot30 is better for aggressive flying? I think the R in R25 stands for racing
I really can't compare as I haven't flown the protek r25. I suspect due to the smaller prop this would be a bit more capable in faster/aggressive flight and might fly longer as well.
How does it compare to the new Cinelog 35 v2 with gps for a newbie that want to do cinematic ?
the 35 is more powerful and can be more challenging to fly for someone that is new.
Can i freestyle this with a full gopro?
Is this much louder than a 3” or 3.5” freestyle like the Babyhawk or Crux 3? I like to be discreet.
yes, all the cinewhoops are louder than their non duct counter parts.
May turning on dynamic idle and increase idle percentage as needed would help with wobble.
If I'm not wrong idle percentage is not used in BetaFlight 4.3 when you activate Dynamic Idle
@@rfly-fpv you still can adjust motor throttle idle value percentage while dynamic idle is turned on. See Chris Ross video ruclips.net/video/CAMcRbQh3xM/видео.html
@@mitoda Check more recent Chris Rossel video (at the last chapter at arround 29:16 - sorry I don't know how to copy link with timestamp on my phone :D): ruclips.net/video/Tc2y1tDPczQ/видео.html In Latest Configurator you don't have to worry about idle percentage when dynamic idle is on
Flywoo cinerace 20 v2 has lights around it as well, and I fly in the house at night, it's so bright I don't need lights on lol, would guess this can do it too
I would suspect the lights are the same lumens as they are both very bright. But blue lights for the win :)
Hi I am kind new to FPV< have one Mavic Pro longer time. Will be buying this drone. I will be getting the GEPRC Cinebot30 HD O3 FPV - 6s version. Will be using it to record nature, max 1.5 - 2 km range. What receiver/version should I get? Also what RC would you guys with experience recommend. I was looking at TBS Tango, but that seems to be out of stock a lot. I also want to have some fun factor with the drone ofc, so not only use it for cinematic videos.
Can someone also suggest batteries for fun and cinematic flights?
Thank you all for your kind input and happy flying.
Yes and goggles thinking about DJI interga.
I suggest getting an expresslrs radio, something like the radiomaster boxer, tx12 or zorro for video I suggest the dji 03 air unit as it has great penetration and image quality at the range your targeting. Batteries are a big variable. I would look at brands like china hobby line (CNHL), tattu r-line, and GNB. GNB is more budget friendly but not has high performer as the others. For size of the battery I think I wouldn't go higher than 1300mah for smooth cruising flights and drop down to about 1000-850mah for more aggressive flight.
@@NickBurnsFPV hi, first of thank you :) I am browsing the batteries, but am super confused. What is kind of available to me would be: TATTU R-LINE VERSION 3.0 1300MAH 22,2V 120C 6S1P XT60
or TATTU R-LINE 1050MAH 22.2V 95C 6S1P XT60 or GENS ACE LIPO TATTU R-Line FPV serie - 6S 1200mAh 22,2V 6S1P (150C) Version 5.0
are those C rates not too high for the 6s version? I have seen on the GEPrc website the discharge rates lower in the recommendation
@@FlatEarthPhotography Oh boy. Sorry, C rating is such a pain. First c rating isn't a standardized measure in batteries, or at least for the fpv market batteries, it mainly marketing mumbo jumbo, so I don't suggest comparing c rating between brands. Where we can make use of them is on the same brand. A high c rating generally will mean it can discharge faster and thus produce more thrust and performance and also mean they are more expensive.
@@NickBurnsFPV I see, many thanks a lot for your help :) this is very helpful, also after reading up on the topics, it makes more sense
did you buy it and how is it for working for you? i cant decide between this one and the cinelog 35(new to fpv), i want to use it mainlky for outside nature video's and also some fun just like you@@FlatEarthPhotography
Hi, wich one do you prefer for indoor flying ? CL25 or CB30 ? Thanks
Well I don't believe I flew either inside. They are super loud for inside flight. I would go smaller for indoor
Anyway to get a better soft mount for it??
Link??
Not sure I haven't needed one for mine. Sorry probably have to continue researching.
Hi Nick YEP I want one badly but I can bet I could break it on the first day. I'm good at that. I don't have any GoPro but I have a RunCam Thumb. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
This one or cinelog 25 v2 for real estate? Thank you
smaller is going to be easier to manage inside imho.
How would you compare to the cinelog 35 v2?
Similar, the 35 v2 will be more capable with a full weight external hd camera.
what rate did you use in your cinebot30 for indoor fly?
I use the same rates for all flights ruclips.net/video/llpHcWQx8q8/видео.html
try increasing Thrust Linear to address that zero throttle wobble on the dives. Start with 20 then increase 5 at a time till the dive is smooth.
There we go....I will need to give that a go. When the dang rain stops......
Set it to 30%, it was off previously. I will give that a try.
Not sure if this uses dynamic idle but that greatly rudeced my low throttle wobbles. I am assuming you would need to change the firmware on the BLheli_S. RPM filter would also tighten up the handling a bit and make it feel more responisve with less overall filtering.
When is the loud whistle tutorial coming?
Lol. I would have to go walk the railroad tracks to find some of that banding.
can you fly this inside houses and so on?
Yes with the appropriate flight skills
Can carry Gopro 9-11? Real flight time with full camera (not naked)? Cinelog35/ Perfomace is better thah Cinebot?
don't have those to test with :(
can it carry a full-size GoPro with no battery?
yea, just about anything with more than a 2inch prop will carry a gopro. The difference is in how well it carries that sort of weight. When we add weight we have to lift that weight while the max amount of thrust the quad can generate is static.
Please help, My cinebot30 can’t handle the full gopro with 6s 1050mah batteries, anyone have an idea why? Does it need to be fine tuned or not? I ordered from Geprc offcicial website
what does it mean "can't handle"? Need more information to help troubleshoot.
@@NickBurnsFPV i mean it can not fly with full gopro 11 on 6s 1050mah batteries, also the flying time only with batteries is about3-4 minutes
@@alfakmn2090 What kind of batteries are you using? I show the batteries I used in the video.
@@NickBurnsFPV it is geprc battery 1050mah
My goodness! Where is the swing set!?
big backyard overhaul from feb to July. Where you been? :)
does it work with the t-lite jumper controller?
If we have a compatible receiver in the quad. I can't tell what you have from what I have here. If elrs, elrs receiver in quad. If frsky/4in1 in the radio then frsky rx in the quad.
@@NickBurnsFPV I have the 4in1 controller. I’ll look for the frsky rx
how long did it take to deliver when ordering from GepRC directly. ?
depends on the shipping chosen.
@@NickBurnsFPV
Got it. But it didn’t take a month from China ?
@@TheHelicapt 90% of the products have been sent DHL, which is fast but yet very expensive.
@@NickBurnsFPV
Ok. Thanks for info
Thanks Nick. I definitely want this one!!!
What do you think about the noise compared to cinelog 30?
maybe watch those two video side by side. Its been a very long time since I have flown the cinelog30.
Looks well built, though I would much rather see a 2.5” version to swap my 95X guts into. I use a Cinesplore for my 3” needs(full size GP). Great review as always. The back yard is looking great btw!
I would like to see a 2.5" version as well.
Great CineWhoop - Great review Nick
I like the Mobula 6 propguard solution. Just screw it, make it just barely heavy enough to do its job, and sell the frames for $5.
If you break a propguard or a strut, you either glue it back until your frame is >50% glue or just swap it out.
Better than the new o3 cinelog 20-25?
there is no cinelog25 for the 03...
its for the inmortal T antena
Little 3D printed piece is for crossfire immortal T antenna
I would at least put the reciever in the heat shrink. There would be a little bit less mechanical stress on the individual components of the board.
yes, that is a good idea
Awesome review n flying Sir
Thanks for the video nick
Cool! Wait for orbit around tree)) 😀
Do you pronounce “cinema” as sin-e-ma or do you pronounce it as sin-ma?
I am not 100% certain I have heard and read in comments several different pronunciations.
Hey Nick!!!
Cheers from Tennesse
I'm sticking with my cinelog30
Hi nicks, i plan to use this cinebot30 with full gp8, what did u feel about FT? Maybe around 6-7 minutes with 1100mah 6s?
I would estimate about that as well.
@@NickBurnsFPV So you believe it won't have any issues carrying the weight of a GP mini 11? Don't want to throw it on there and burn a motor out immediately.
@@rudifpv3547 I won't say "any affect". But the mini is lighter than standard gp, so that will minimize the impact.