Ive got a Question no Christian will answer. So if only Christians go to heaven. That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct? Does that sound like something a good god would do?
@@frankfranz4428Ive got a Question no Christian will answer. ME: Are you ready for the answer? Hope so 😊. So if only Christians go to heaven. ME: Are you aware the word Christian is written only 3 times? Disciple is written over 260 times. Jesus Himself said in; Luke 14:26 26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. Parallel in Matthew 10:34-39 I would strongly urge you to read all of both chapters of both books for a better understanding. That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct? ME: This is not so, 1st followers of Christ are told this in Mark 16:15-16 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. In Romans 1:18-32 (verse 20) 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, Men have no excuse, if you have read the Bible men throughout time have heard and even witnessed God's power and still denied Him this is why men are without excuse in Romans 1:20 above. I strongly encourage you to read the entire chapter. Does that sound like something a good god would do? ME: God has tasked believers to tell the good news and it is done all over the world. Mankind has no excuse. Just as you asked these questions here this means you know and are aware of God which also means you have no excuse. You focus on your life in telling the good news and let God deal with making ways for mankind to know. I don't know if you believe in God, but whatever your status, you have no excuse and BTW, the question you asked implies you question God's abilities and authority.
@@frankfranz4428there are very few on earth who will never hear the gospel; but the Bible says those men will be judged by their conscience and God-given light. “Shall not the judge of the whole earth do right?” He will do right. He is just.
I don't have to be a member of any denomination in order to be saved, but I do have to be a member of the Lord's Church to be saved. As was pointed out in Acts 2, it says that those who received the word and were baptized, The Lord ADDED THEM TO THE SAVED, which is the Church, so when I repented and was baptized, God added me to the saved, his church, not a denomination. Listen to what Paul says in 1Cor1:12 " each one of you says, "I BELONG TO PAUL", OR "I BELONG TO APOLLOS," OR "I BELONG TO CEPHAS", OR " I BELONG TO CHRIST". "IS CHRIST DIVIDED? was Paul CRUCIFIED FOR YOU?" or were you baptized in the name of Paul"? So, was Paul crucified for you? was Apollos? was Cephas? No they were not....were you baptized into Paul's name? Apollos name? Cephas name? NO, YOU WERE NOT, SO YOU DO NOT BELONG TO THEM!!!Now how about Christ? Did Christ die for you? YES HE DID. Were you baptized into his name, YES I WAS.....SO I BELONG TO CHRIST!!! SO, WHY WOULD I WEAR A MAN'S NAME? I belong to Christ, I should wear his name. Is Baptist, Lutheran , Methodist etc...the name of Christ?
If you're careful to not wear a man's name, you should be careful to realize you're only saved by being in Christ-not by being in the church. If you're saved in Christ, you're part of His church. But you aren't saved by becoming a member of the Church. The church is people, and we can't save ourselves. But by the way, most Baptists, Methodists, etc. look to Jesus for their salvation instead of their church. This is better than a lot of CoC folks, who think they're saved by being in the right church.
@@bluegorillacookies Romans 12:4-5 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. We are to be all a part of the body, if you are cut off from the head (Christ) you cannot live, therefore the church (people/body) must be connected to one another all connected to the head.
@@kevinmarku2944 If you're connected to the Head, you'll be connected to each other. Church is important, but it doesn't save you. There are lots of church fellowship schisms even in the mainline CoC. Which one is going to Heaven under your reasoning?
I attend a coc now, and I’m finding that our preacher has taken scripture completely out of context, in order to link it back to attending a coc specifically. It seems to always sound like this… If you’re not attending a coc, you’ve gone off the right path. If you’re not attending a coc, and you disagree with what I’m saying, you’re apostate. He’ll jump around from verse to verse, to make a point, which is always- the coc is the only way. But true believers know without a doubt that religion will never save us. John Chapter 6 in its full and correct context, is all about Jesus, being the only way, and believing in Him is the key. And of course through that sincere belief, our sanctification process through the Holy Spirit follows. In this video, you initially answer the correct way, saying Jesus made it clear He’s the only way, then continuing on, you begin to say otherwise. That’s called lying. Jesus doesn’t care who plants, or who waters, as He is the one who makes us grow. “It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow.” 1 COR 3:7 NLT
1 Corinithians 3:6-9 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building. You are poorly misusing that verse I am afraid, the point is that anyone can plant a seed, anyone can do the watering, but we must always remember that God does the growing and that at most we are only co-workers of the Lord, for that very reason we are co-workers with the Lord when we baptize individuals gifting them the holy spirit, therefore faith justifies us and maintains our status, but faith alone in Christ means nothing for even the demons believe, and they shudder James 2:19 I hope this helps, I used to believe in faith alone, and I always felt like I was going down a rabbit hole of not believing hard enough, or not feeling God, but the truth is the only way we can "feel God" is through scripture and truly knowing him.
@@kevinmarku2944 anyone can plant, anyone can water, which is the exact point I’m making. 🤍 be blessed, condemn less. Leave the judgement to God. Follow him, be honest, have a good heart, cling to the scriptures in order to encourage yourself and others, not to condemn.
Yes, you're so right. . . This guy does switch gears and talk out of both sides of his mouth. It's a slight of hand/mouth that most people who were brainwashed to this false doctrine won't catch because they're only looking for reasons to keep believing what they believe-that they're right and everyone else going to Hell. I'm a CoC minister, and I hate the crap that these guys are teaching. It's filth and it's false and their Scriptures are out of context. But you're right, sister. It's about being in Christ. If you're in Christ, then you're automatically in the church as God sees things. Not a sign on the door, etc. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, but you're not crazy. Hang in there.
@@bluegorillacookies I’ve been attending another COC and it’s completely different in it’s messaging. It’s about God, faith, love, less quarreling and more encouraging. That’s the kind of messaging I wanted to hear. Not back and forth about this or that. Believe and be baptized. Focus on your own sanctification and encourage others to do the same. Less fighting about the sign on the door and more about your secret relationship with God- the one only He knows and sees.
@@Watergardengirl Amen...that's fantastic. There are some great congregations out there. If all of them taught church-based salvation and other traditions of men like these guys, I'd be gone altogether. Thankfully there are some "sound" (healthy) CoC churches that do preach the actual Good News about Jesus instead of spending their time patting themselves on the back for getting everything right while missing the most important aspects of the faith, like the doctrines of grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It's those congregations and the brothers and sisters in them that keep me here. But also the need I see to admonish others against the falsehoods of legalism when I can. God bless you.
@@brendanjobe6895 Yes ,they do claim that. Ask them if the people who do attend the “Church of God” can be saved. They’ll acknowledge that certain other “denominations” might be doing abc right, but there’s ALWAYS something else they’re doing wrong that will send them to hell in their opinion. But the truth is, they have some Serious errors and blind spots, as well as false teaching. But call them on it, and they ignore it or sweep it under the rug because they’ve been brainwashed to think they’re THE perfect church. This is why they damn people who use instruments but not the churches of Christ of the early 1960s when CoC universities were some of the last in the country to desegregate. Also, they don’t care about neglecting or teaching falsely on the doctrines of grace and the Holy Spirit, but get the end times wrong and you’re going to hell in their eyes.
@@bluegorillacookies * Yes ,they do claim that. * Paul asked the question... is Christ divided? It was a rhetorical question the answer of which is no. If Jesus adds those who are being saved to the church... it stands to reason it is only that one. Ephesians 4 says there is one body. It also says there is one faith associated with that one body. We are at odds not teaching the same thing. It means we don't share the same faith. The only way we end up in the same place is if we are both in error. Since we don't teach the same thing it is set that we will not go to heaven together. * They’ll acknowledge that certain other “denominations” * Coc is a fellowship of autonomous congregations standing on the same premise to congregate according to biblical precepts (in other words... by faith). It is hoped that in so doing we avoid denominationalism. That you identify us as a denomination I'm assuming is a blatant attempt to be inflammatory. We seek unity in truth. Just because we may not be dealing with Catholicism does not mean that the unity of denominationalism is not ecumenical. Any unity that does not come by truth is fraudulent and a pretense. It is infuriating to protestant denoms that we reject ecumenicism with them.
@@bluegorillacookies * “denominations” might be doing abc right, but there’s ALWAYS something else they’re doing wrong that will send them to hell in their opinion. * You only know my opinion when I give it to you and not before. I am not the judge. If you want to stand before God wearing a denominational name... God is perfectly capable of determining if that reflects what he sought to institute by his son. * they have some Serious errors and blind spots, as well as false teaching. * No question about it... we all have blindspots. We could all find one more thing to repent. And we could all spend a little more time studying to make our election sure. But the fact remains that the issues we are discussing here... are not our mistake.
@@thundershadow Hello, and thank you for your thoughts. I feel like you showed what your opinions were by your comments. You don't seem to realize that the claim that 'all other groups are wearing a man's name' is slander. It's not true. There are Presbyterians...because long before the Restoration Movement, they came to believe in the importance of elders (presbyters). The Baptists were labeled that because they didn't believe in baptizing children. I don't know of any mainline "denomination" that claims to have a man as the head of the church. Only cults do that. In fact, I've heard much richer and deeper christology from people in those groups than I have in the "CoC." Sure, there are people who acknowledge their history...we would do better if we did. We've been kind of willfully ignorant that our fellowship was began in the 1800s in Frontier America. We've also been willfully ignorant of all the reformers and pilgrims and people who gave their lives to bring us the Bible in our language. We just considered all the "denominations" to be rebellious splinters and divisions from the "one true church", when the truth was that it took sacrifice and courage to bring a people from only knowing Catholicism in Europe, to the point where they fought for religious freedom of conscience as people had more and more access to the Scriptures. From Luther calling out corruption in the Catholic church, to those who were persecuted because they didn't want to baptize infants, to those who left the church of England, etc. etc. But we've had terrible christology. In fact, when people in the CoC claim that Christ and the church are synonymous (as this video is implying and I've heard in other legalistic circles), they are the ultimate worshipers of man. How? Well, the church is PEOPLE, but when people in the CoC claim you have to be in 'their' church to be saved, they're trying to save themselves by themselves. Only Catholics, Mormons, Holdeman Mennonites, and the Church of Christ (maybe a few others) claim that salvation is in the church. It's false doctrine because salvation is in Jesus. If you're in Jesus, you're in the church automatically. But don't think the church saves you. Jesus does. Of course, they'll claim it's the Lord's church because they're not a denomination. But when they use "Church of Christ" or "church of Christ" as a title to distinguish from other believers, they're acting more denominational than most others. God bless you
You so correctly says "You must be in the BODY" of Christ it does not say in the "Physical church"" of Christ. It is a spiritual church. People can come together in a building but each person is a building block in the Third Temple (the church of Christ) a spiritual Temple.
How do you get into body? Believe, repent, baptism, be faithful? What of those who do these but still worship in another congregation that is scriptually doing things outside of the Word. Different name, have instruments, etc.
If there are people who are doing those things but attending a church that has beliefs that go against God's word, then they are just as wrong. Paul said in 1 Corinth 11:1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. If anyone falls away from Christ, their followers must no longer support them. We ought not to do anything that goes against God's word. Like you said about different church names... there are no Catholic, Presbyterian, Mormon, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Calvanist, Baptist, Non-Denominational (most follow Baptist beliefs) churches authorized in the Bible, therefore we are not authorized to attend them. There are six steps to Salvation: 1. Hear 2. Believe 3. Repent 4. Confess 5. Baptism 6. Continue to walk obediently in faith The use of instruments in church: we are not authorized in the NT to use instruments during worship. That was the OT. A lot of people believe that if God doesn't expressly tell us not to do things such as "You must not use instruments while worshipping" then they are allowed to." If that were the case, the Bible would be very big!!
@@Quinn-xw5eg How is the COC a cult? I know that there have been false leaders claiming to be of Christ, but that's minority when they are related to the COC. Christ tells us that their will be false prophets, but that doesn't mean all are.
@Quinn Cults are typically defined as A religious group far outside the mainstream that have overly controlling leadership or dangerous practices. Signs are, they: Pull people away from their families Practice Emotional manipulation Damage personalities Provide opposite of spiritual fulfillment Physically abuse its members Brainwashing Shunning those who leave Powerful leadership with no accountability for whom the group has excessively zealous and unquestioned commitment. Preoccupation with bringing in new members Preoccupation with making money Questioning, doubt or dissent are discouraged or even punished. Leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act and feel (permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married, prescriptions of what clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, etc.) Elitist, claiming a special exalted status for itself, it’s leadership and members. (Example…leader is considered the messiah or an avatar, the group has a special mission to save humanity). Has a polarized ‘us vs them’ mentality which creates conflict with the wider society. Ends justify the means mentality (for example: collecting money for bogus charities). Leader induces a feeling of guilt in members to control them. Members subservience to the group causes cutting ties with family, friends, and personal group goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group. Expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group. Encouraged to live and socialize only with other members of the group. Mind numbing techniques such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation session, debilitating work routines are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader. A group that is unfamiliar, disliked or feared isn’t a cult. Labeling a group a cult is a cowardly way of tolerating, condoning, appeasing or promoting favored (popular) religions while simultaneously disparaging minority religions. Who gets slapped with the cult smear depends on the length of membership rolls and political, economic, social influence count. - Guy Harrison, atheist. Theological definition: Heretical sect: A religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth. A cult is a group that teaches doctrine that, if believed, will cause a person to remain unsaved. A cult claims to be part of a religion yet it denies central truths of that religion.
@5:30 there has NEVER ever been a time when God condemned or saved the soul of even a single man for "being in a certain place" your comparison to the ark of Noah represents a completely fraudulent account for not a single person beyond the 8 of faith was permitted to enter the ark though they tried, the determination of who would be let in was made by virtue of Noah's having "found grace in God's eyes".. and furthermore, who cares about the saving of the flesh??? What does is profit a man to gain the whole *_WORLD_* and lose his soul?
I'm a minister in the Church of Christ, but y'all have the cart before the horse. You're not saved because you're in the church. Instead you're in the church if you're saved in Christ. Thirteen minutes an and you haven't answered the question, because you make an assumption that people in other denominations don't have Christ as the foundation. What in the world do you think they're doing all Sunday? They're preaching and teaching about Jesus. The Church of Christ as a whole needs to repent of slandering all other denominations (they're not all the same) as if no one else looks to Christ for their salvation. The irony is that the COC looks to the church for their salvation, using the claim that it's the only group that is the church Jesus built as a buttressing point. The church is just people, and people can't save themselves. Look to Jesus. Stop viewing the Ark as the church. Jesus is the Ark. He's also the door, the way, the truth, and the life.
@@lindahutchens8612 Yes He did! But Or is the church a building, or a philosphy or a 4th member of the Godhead? What is the church? It is people. You're not saved by means of being in the church. You are in the church of God if you are saved. So it's not, "God saves me because I am a member of the church." It is, "God saved me, therefore I am part of the church.
finally, an answer I can agree with. sorry to ask, but just out of curiosity, which "type" of church of christ do u go to? i mean, there's non-instrumental, there's one cupper, there's ICOC, then we have the churches of christ/christian churches, and we have COC Disciples of christ In the end, denominations are just man's ways of coping with their differing scripture interpretations. What truly matters is that Jesus "knows" who are his. I also go to a church of christ. This culture of exclusivity, and that we are the "true" church, and that we're the only ones gettinsaved...it's just TBH, just exhausting, somewhat kind arrogant, prrideful and as you said, putting the cart before the horse. Study Jesus. God to hm. knowhim. Love him. worship him. Read his teachings and take it to heart and live it. He is full of grace. He knos hs church.
I was brought up in the Church of Christ and I attend a Church of Christ today. There are things I believe we must do to go to Heaven like being baptized and repenting of our sins. That doesn’t mean that we’re not going make mistakes or that God’s grace is not going to cover our sins. I believe we need to make a conscious effort to do what’s right. I would never say that someone that has been baptized and believes in God and attends a Baptist church is not going to Heaven, that’s not my place that is God’s place and He knows peoples hearts.
I have some concerns about how Christians are starting to think 🤔 that it’s possible for someone in a man made religion make it to heaven how, because first of all I know that we have family and friends that attend other denominations and they’re really good people in the book of Mark 8:3 And when he had a called the people into him his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself,and take up his cross,follow me. As bad as we want them to be saved they have to save themselves it’s a reason why I was added to the Church of Christ I believed whole heartily at the age of 12 I was baptized without mother or father being present and had never discussed it with them. I wouldn’t tell nobody that it’s possible to find salvation in another religion Acts 4:12 There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. These are words of Peter addressed to the Jewish leaders. I had the opportunity to attend a Baptist Church for a scholarship presentation it was a young man that wanted to be Baptized they took his confession and said the next week the Baptism would take place so I asked the preacher after service how can you take a confession and baptize later it’s no illustration in the New Testament of a baptism taking place like that, he said well you’re right it’s just a traditional was and sometimes it’s hard to get people to accept the truth, so in other words your saying that you know better but to not rock the boat 🛥️ it’s better to keep things as they are 🤔. So if the Baptism is wrong how are you going to end up right? When you go down into the watery grave of baptism that’s when you receive the Holy Ghost being Baptized by a male member of the Church of Christ so how are they going to receive the Holy Ghost, and plus a whole lot of things that wasn’t doctrine that I saw
@@lisarudolph7529You’re entire confession/testimony- is identical to mines. 12 years old. Baptized into Christ. We all waver but to get back on the path of Righteousness like the prodigal son is only by a changed mind, Grace and Mercy.
@@jarvisprice1992 @ lisarudolph7529 A to the MEN people have to understand that you have to bend your will to God’s will. And I feel so sad for so many of my Christian brothers and sisters that have been in the Gospel for more than 20 plus years, can tell you more about what’s going on in a denomination organization than what the basic principles of the COC. People all so have to understand that the words of inspiration is what feeds your spirit, if your not studying, it’s a big difference between studying and reading the word, and now in the church we have a lot of our preachers teaching the Alexander Campbell theology which is sad 😞, it’s Christian’s in other organizations so they say, I question 🙋🏿♂️ one of our deacons about that, my question was how can you be baptized wrong and end up right, he didn't have a book, chapter, and verse answer, his only response was so you trying to tell me that it's no Christians in other churches, and what happens if you heard the wrong message and was baptized right, my next question is John 3:5 Jesus answered Truly, Truly I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. How can you get the spirit in a denomination organization if your not baptized by a male member of the COC Baptism and the Holy Spirit goes together.
Some people nowadays are confusing LEGALISM with OBEDIENCE to God's commands which are found in His Word,the Bible.The denominational world and the world at large are guilty of ILLEGALISM,which is DISOBEDIENCE to God's commands. If we don't obey God,our only other choice is to disobey Him. I love and respect everybody out there. All people must come to Christ in LOVING OBEDIENCE by repenting of all past sins and being baptized (immersed) to have those past sins washed away. Then Jesus will ADD you to His one and only church: the church of Christ. You see,a person doesn't JOIN a denomination. When you obey God's commands on salvation,He will add us to that one precious body. Jesus will always put you in the right church when you fully obey Him. After becoming a true Christian,find a good church of Christ to worship and serve with. I or GBN can help you find one. I know this sounds harsh to some. It did to me at one time,but I'm saved now. Again,I love(agape) all people. Richard Rhoden
Stating you must be baptized to be saved is legalism. It's following the law preached to the Jews. We are saved by grace through faith alone. Even Peter admitted that Paul's ideas were hard to understand but then he later agreed with Paul and encouraged Jews to listen to Paul. Paul got his gospel directly from God. Why do you think God revealed his gospel to Paul? Because the Jews were not receiving what Peter was preaching. Paul's gospel says salvation is for both Jew and Gentiles alike and we are saved by belief.
@brendanjobe6895 Peter preached to the Jews. Peter taught to repent and be batized for the remission of sins in order to be saved. Paul preached to the Gentiles that we are saved by the grace of God through our faith and belief.
At first listening to BJ talking about the denomination of the church of Christ, (early in the video) I thought he was saying that the church of Christ is a denomination. But I listened again and realized that I misunderstood. Just so others don’t get confused, It is not a denomination, but the original church that Jesus built and gave His life for. He paid for it with His blood, as you are saying. A denomination is a church that has split off from the original, (which there are many, as you know), because someone didn’t like something about the original church, and wanted to identify their denomination as a separate church, and now we have thousands of them and new ones popping up all the time. Thank you for this very import video! You hit on so many scriptures that make it ultra clear, without a doubt, that there is one Lord, one faith, (one baptism), (Ephe 4:4, 5) that is Christ’s church. And just like baptism is necessary to become a member of His church, the Bible makes it ultra clear, and we will be dammed if we try to change one thing about it to suit our own likes or dislikes.
@@Quinn-xw5eg Burden of proof is on you. You made the claim. I’m not proving anything. Scripture is still Scripture. Jesus saves. Can you show me who Jesus is coming back for? Is He coming back for anybody, sinner’s too? Is He coming back for individuals? Is He coming back for His Church, or Bride? It’s one of those 3. Let’s see if you know Bible or if you’re just talking because you’re in your feelings and hate Gods household. Let’s see.
@@kevinking-kf2lb Kevin,you are confusing LEGALISM with OBEYING God's commands in His Word,the Bible. The denominational world has so much ILLEGALISM,which is DISOBEDIENCE to God's commands. Sir,I love and respect you and everybody. Please come to Jesus in loving obedience by repenting of your past sins and being buried with Jesus in baptism to have those past sins washed away. Then Christ will ADD you to His one and only church: the church of Christ. You and all people must obey God's commands. The only other choice is to disobey His commands. I know this sounds harsh to you now. It did to me at onetime,but I'm saved now. Take care and thanks for your comment. RIchard
One of the main teachings of the Old Testament is man was imperfect and was never going to be able to keep the old law. Thank the Lord for giving us his son, the perfect sacrifice, truly washing away our sins. I believe the argument people are trying to make is more about only people going to a CofC today are saved? Vs. a community church X or denomination Y. The discussion should be focused on the teachings of the “church” being debated, that is where the real debate is at.
Yes, if you look at the churches of the world, there are few to none, who claim that Baptism is washing away of sins required for salvation, faith alone believes that faith alone is enough to be saved, the Catholics know however that Baptism is required, but they baptize babies which is not right either, the Church of Christ claims they are the one Church because no one else preaches this doctrine, which is backed by scripture that physical baptism is work of God not of man, and saves you, by washing away your sins, through the covering of Jesus's blood on us during the participation of the burial death and resurrection of Christ himself. This is the main issue being discussed, and majority of the United States believes in faith alone because of Martin Luther, not wanting to follow the Catholic Church, (who is also wrong) and losing the idea that Baptism is required, but merely a post saving work, which is just not true.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
The catholic church does not teach that Mary is the ark. Mary is the new ark of the covenant that contained the presence of God. Mary carried God the second person of the trinity in her.
I hear so many foljs from denominations say that the differing denominations are branches grafted in with the body of Christ. They are hard nuts to crack to show them the error in that belief.
I have a peace about my spirit listening to these men. I went and downloaded the app. I take everything to the Lord in prayer. Wow ! The app is beyond what I expected. Thank you all so much , who put this together. God bless you lovers of The King of Kings, Jesus Christ ! 😊
Thank you both for all your hard work, inspiration and knowledge in sharing God's word so that we have a better understanding. You guys are awesome. God bless
@@nelsonsoiane4451 look online for the CHURCH OF CHRIST in your area … Tell them you want to become a Christian.. They will lead you into the correct way.
Kindly search on Google maps for the nearest Church of Christ. Visit them and discuss your aim to be a member. They will teach you, once you're still convicted to be a follower of Christ, you will be baptised for the remission of your sins and Christ at that point will add you to His Church. I'd love to know how it goes.
This is a great subject. You did a wonderful job explaining about THE CHURCH. I really think you should consider following it up with will ALL MEMBERS of the church of Christ go to heaven. It needs to be a back-to-back show because that's often the next objection to becoming a member of the church. Even if someone is convinced that the church of Christ is the 'right' church. Often, they can't seem to get past the behavior of some of the people they know who are members-& that is a stumbling block for them. Thank you.
It is the same question asked with different words. Must you be a member of the Church of Christ? Must you get to heaven exclusively by Jesus Christ? When a person accepts the gospel what denomination does God/Christ add them to? (Of course, God does not add anyone to a denomination. He only recognizes denominations as false equivalents of the church that he builds).
The Church of Christ is people. Jesus is not the church. This is not the first time I've heard such foolishness. Give the glory to Christ. Saying the church and Jesus are essentially the same thing is elevating man to Christ's status. Repent of this legalism, brother.
@@bluegorillacookies Jesus is a few things according to scripture. Each one of those things that come to my mind proves you don't know what you are talking about. He is the head of the church. He is the chief cornerstone of the church. He is the vine and those added to him are the branches. The things that I'm saying are matters of faith. I believe them because they are in scripture. I don't remember saying that Jesus and the church were essentially the same thing. That sounds like someone is trying to put words in my mouth. It sounds like you are making an argument best levied at Catholics of which I am not. Do not tell me to repent when you are the one that is wrong. Of course, I have things to repent of... I'm afraid for my soul... But you... need to study more then maybe you wouldn't make so many mistakes.
@@thundershadow This is what I was responding to: "It is the same question asked with different words. Must you be a member of the Church of Christ? Must you get to heaven exclusively by Jesus Christ?" Nope, not the same question with different words AT ALL. You equated the "Church of Christ" with Jesus. If you don't see the error there, I can spend more time and explain it.
You don't know if I'm saved I have obeyed the gospel so if you got a problem don't comment to me anymore the last comment I said I'm sorry but when you lie and I know you lied y ok u don't know me so I you don't have the right to say anything about it you might not be I believe in the finished work of Christ but you push me to far
@@jarvisprice1992 you don't know me I got two black guys playing with me tired of it so that's the solution to get you put of my life you really think I'm going to take these lies I already don't trust you people
@@jarvisprice1992 you don't know what I do I have faith and I have done good works I don't brag about it see people of your type probably don't really understand what I'm talking about you just don't do learn the Bible learn Greek and Hebrew quit with you nonsense you're spewing out about me I can't talk with you types you don't my relationship with the LORD but sadly you people think you do but you dont
@@jarvisprice1992 Jarvis you are those types of people you might not be able to understand biblical theology you don't know me the reason is you don't attend Eastwood church of Christ you don't attend or anything don't live around me your just talking that's it
@@albertmomberger That says "churches of Christ...(plural)" There is no "Church of Christ" in the Scriptures. It was never meant to be a name for a singular title the way we've done.
@@bluegorillacookies The Campbell's didn't break from the Baptist till 1827-1830. There is a church of Christ here where i live in clay county tn. that was started in 1807, the Campbell's were still in England to my knowledge.
Must a person be BAPTIZED in order to be saved? If a person decides to accept and follow Jesus and is killed 5 minutes later, are they lost because they werent Baptized??
God does not give coincidence or chance, if they were meant to be saved, they would have been baptized. These scenarios are fighting God's supremacy over the world's order.
No you do not have to be baptized. Read Paul's gospel. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. After we are saved then we get baptized. I was saved as a teen but wasn't baptized til age 39. My parents had me baptized as a baby and I thought that's all I needed until I learned the truth about baptism.
This is what makes the coc look like a cult because there's not church's of Christ everywhere there's only one in my area the next on is a long way so there's salvation in CHRIST
What about all the other Christians in history? Before Church of christ was established by Campbell. I'm aware you guys claim that it wasn't started by Campbell and that it was Christ's church. Where's the history of this church before Campbell? Is it really that from Campbells time to now those were the only people getting saved and everyone before that was dammed because they were part of denominations?
It seems to me that this line of reasoning rests on something of a fallacy of equivocation. I'm not a Presbyterian, but I might use that to illustrate. My Presbyterian friend does not claim to be part of "John Knox's church." Neither did Knox did not claim to start his own church. Rather, he recognized that what he was active in reforming was and must remain Christ's church. By the way, I grew up in the Church of Christ and even attended Freed-Hardeman.
I am a member of Church of Christ. I was told by missionaries of Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints that the rock the church was build on is REVELATION.. and not ...
Every CoC congregant and pastor that I have ever met believed that anyone not in their organization was not saved. They also believed that anyone who worshiped with a musical instrument is going to g to hell
Doubt I'll get a response, but this seems as good a place as any to ask. For context, I'm a member of the Church of Christ (to avoid cofusion, the building has the physical words church of Christ). I have a friend who is getting baptized on this coming Sunday. However, he is getting baptized at and into a denominational church. I was invited to a lunch with him and his girlfriend to support him in his baptism. Is it wrong for me to go in support. Personally, my feelings on it are that he's getting much closer to the Lord and is taking active steps, but I'm not certain if his baptism is legitimate and if it's not, is it better to go to support him and keep the line open and therefore possibly be able to bring him even closer? Or is it better to distance myself from the event entirely and tell him that it's not a scriptural baptism. Thanks for any advice.
Hey there, that's a great question. I'm a CoC minister, but this video has reminded me of all the false teaching in our own brotherhood. These guys are acting as if you join the church to be saved. They're picturing the church as an ark, which is a vessel of salvation. But if the church is the lifeboat, where's Jesus? Bottom line, the church can't save you...the church is people, and we can't save ourselves! These guys and others are always talking about the Church in ways that aren't biblical. Paul would be shaking his head because they've turned it into the ultimate denomination. They rant about how they're the original 1st century church,...but which one? The Galatian church? The church in Thyratira? The Corinthian church? We have a great majority of the NT because these churches had problems. Can I ask what church your friend is going to be baptized at? You might be surprised at how much better a lot of these other church groups understand and teach the Gospel than some legalistic CoC's that condemn everyone for not being perfect, all while having major flaws themselves.
Yeah dude, go support him, when I got Baptized by the ICC, I had friends from the reformed movement come and support me, keep the line open, and see if God can work in his heart, because like Paul said in Acts 19:3-5 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Basically faith alone believes that Baptism is of repentance, which is not true anymore, it is of salvation, through a working of God, thus if you are not being baptized into Christ, having his blood sprinkled onto you, then you are sadly not saved, Jesus said people would die for a lack of knowledge, thus if you do not have knowledge of the truth when you are baptized, it's kinda like what's the point of being baptized then. This being said, go support him, continue to teach him the scripture and be friends with him that is all you can do, for in 1 Corinthians 3:6-9, I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building. Sorry for the long comment, but I just wanted to encourage you, that God will water, you have to plant the seed. Love you bro you got this.
Hey,Turbo1,my name is Richard Rhoden from Muscle Shoals,Alabama. I'm glad you are my brother in Christ! This "baptism" you are talking about my have already taken place by now. Brother,you shouldn't attend it. HOWEVER,if you do,you need to be lovingly teaching him God's true Plan of Salvation every day you can. I've seen this happen before: a member of Christ's church attends a denominational event in order to "support" a relative or friend. Then they freeze up,get tongue tied and never have the Godly courage to teach their relative or friend the true way to become saved,a Christian! I pray you lead this soul to Jesus so He can add him to His church: the church of Christ. Turbo1,I love you in the Lord,and I hope we will see each other in Heaven after this life is over! Sincerely in Christ,Richard Rhoden
@@joerhoden4919 You seem like a kind person...but I want to challenge your thinking. I think you're wrong on many levels. I lovingly ask you to support your label of "denominational" with Scripture. What do you mean by that? Why are you so confident that it's ok, to blaspheme the very high priestly prayer of Jesus for unity in the Gospel of John before His crucifixion? Did you know that there are no Scriptures that support a "salvation by the one true church" doctrine? "Denominational" is a label we've thrown at every other group, while acting just like a "denomination" ourselves. We haven't even got a good definition of what it is, and if you do define it, chances are we fit right in. "Denominational vs. 'the Lord's church'" is based on the false premise we can preform perfectly as a church this side of heaven. If you want to truly restore the New Testament church, you have to decide which one: The Ephesian church, or the Thessalonian church, or the Jerusalem church, or the Galatian church. They all had problems, and that's why the epistles were written. But if you think your salvation lies in being perfect, be prepared to re-introduce: lifting holy hands in prayer, falling down on the floor in worship, the holy kiss, sharing possessions, anointing with oil, laying on of hands, speaking in tongues, head coverings, prophecy (including women praying and prophesying), participatory worship without a set schedule, the Lord's Supper as part of a meal...and meeting in homes. Get rid of the church building, which is an addition that consumes vast resources and creates a temple mentality. Also, don't let people dress up for church, but rather be modest (James). Also know, that the New Testament church wasn't restored in the "glory days" of the CoC when churches were segregated during the Jim Crow era and when our colleges weren't desegregated until the 1960's. Also, any CoC congregation that doesn't teach the doctrines of grace or the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is apostate and going straight to Hell. OR....realize that there has never been a perfect church because churches are made of people. It's our perfect SAVIOR who gives us hope! I pray you have a blessed day.
I love listening to these. One thing I do think that you need to add is “as we understand it”.. because if there was a Church of Christ more liberal than you, you would say they weren’t a true church of Christ.. also, on one hand, you say it’s not about the name on the building, but on the other hand, it’s all about the name on the building, AS LONG AS they practice church the way we understand that they should.. “Church of God” is actually used in the NT much more than Church of Christ.. yet you would say members of the church of God are going to hell.. it’s all very confusing.. and it’s all because you think that they don’t conduct worship the way you think they should.. because let’s be honest- NOBODY worships the same exact way as the few things recorded above how the first century church worshipped.. example- Why is so much emphasis placed on instrumental music, all because “we don’t see examples of that in the NT” - yet we don’t see any examples of the church buying or building an actual building.. they met inside peoples’ homes.. nobody in the coc sells all their belongings and pools their money together.. there are no examples of Wednesday night services, VBS, Bible class before “worship”.. we pick and choose what we’re going to make a cornerstone issue and what was just cultural.. I have no problem with anyone who wants to sing a capella- but to say “we have it right and the rest has it wrong because we sing a capella and they don’t” - that’s hypocrisy- because NOBODY does exactly what the NT church did
Q. "Are you a member of the Church of God?" A. "No, I am a member of the Church of Christ". How you answer that question determines whether you are a member of a denomination or not.
@@donwhitt9899 that doesn’t make any sense. 1 - Christ didn’t establish a “denomination” - correct - He established a called out people, which is the definition of the Greek word for church.. He also didn’t establish a building- yet you meet in those.. it’s a giant contradiction where people pick and choose and use that to try to reassure themselves that THEY are the ones who got it right.. 2. If someone says “are you a member of the church of God” and your answer is no, then you do not belong to the church that Paul wrote about in his letters to each church
It would be great if they would distinguish about Christians who attend churches by other names such as church of God, Christian church, followers of the Way. All are biblical names for genuine Christians. They’ve corn holed one name, which goes beyond the scriptures. People who’ve obeyed the gospel are the church that belongs to Christ. By claiming exclusivity that isn’t claimed in scripture, it’s a division that isn’t in the Bible. The grace of God is bigger than they allude. Question- why do they sing hymns written by people who belonged to churches by other names? Look up hymn writers and you’ll see the point
It’s not about genuineness. It’s about following Gods word. Acts 17:30 - God doesn’t care about ignorance anymore but causes ALL men to repent. No excuse anymore.
I'm pretty sure all true born again Christians know what the actual Church of Christ is, it is those that obey the true gospel worldwide, but I would believe the question was more direct to you guys calling yourselves the Church of Christ on the outside billboards of all your buildings, so true godly men would have made the answer yes or no from the beginning instead of a 1/2 an hour of beating around the bush, I attended one of your churches Christ for about six months until the lead minister told me straight up that anybody outside of your church of Christ congregation is not saved, so I left knowing that I was born again before I got there, and was being told unless I confess Christ and be baptized in the Church of Christ congregation that I was not truly saved and I was under a false gospel before, just remember one thing before you start spouting damnable heresies that we overcame Satan by the blood of the lamb and the words of our personal testimony and nobody can take that away from us unless we give it up. But I will say this, I do admire a lot of your doctrinal stances because it's a whole lot better there than most of the churches I've been to especially the ones poisoned by calvinistic doctrine.
How do we receive the Blood of the Lamb? according to you you get it by faith which is not Biblical, but participating with Jesus's death in Baptism is, (which is when you receive. the Blood of the Lamb)
@@KeithWheeler-ey1pw The Biblical Greek emphasis for "Saved", in Mk 16: 16, is on the "Believing" NOT on baptism. And Jesus went on to prove it when He said he that doesn't balieve shall be damned. Please note what Jesus didn't say, He didn't say, Those who aren't baptised shall be damned. It's unsaved, false religions that believe water baptism is needed fo salvation. Saved people know that water baptism isn't needed for salvation, because we were saved way before we were baptised in water. As was Paul, the Gentiles, the disciples in Acts 19. And other New Testament people.
VBS, where is this in the Bible? Our local church of Christ has VBS themes like Wonka and Dr. Suess. The worship leader dresses like these characters. At an Assembly of God I attended for years we just taught our kids Bible stories.
the vbs is only to teach children the Bible and that solely, it can include themes to add relevance to the children’s ages, this argument you made isn’t a valid argument because the Bible says teach all men I attend a South African church of christ
Even though the name of the church has Christ it does not mean that the head of church is Jesus. All the church established during the apostolic period do not have Christ in its name.
@@jarvisprice1992 please read the new testament and tell me which churches that was built in jerusalem and by paul was named with christ? The name church of christ today is named to show the restoration of the apostolic church in accordance to acts chapter 2 according to them, but very wrong in there practice.
In fact, anyone who conforms directly with the New Testament knows God. It was designed by God before the universe was built that after the ascension of Christ, that man would be brought to God by being receptive to the moving of the Holy Spirit. That's how regeneration occurs. Not by labels but being born by God's Spirit.
Yes there is only one church and it belongs to Christ and every theologian know it as the invisible universal church but you equate and trick people by equating your group to that church, it's a con job
Hear the Word - Romans 10:17 Believe the Word - Mark 16:16 Repent - Luke 13:3 Confess Christ to be the Son of God - Matthew 10:32 Be baptized for the remission of your sins. Acts 2:38 - Acts 22:16 Find a church of Christ near you.
@@respectingthewordpodcast Have you been baptized by a baptist? If so you need to be baptized again by a member of the Lord’s body. The church of Christ. The body of Christ. Under the right teaching. Paul rebaptized 12 men who were baptized with the baptism of John the Baptist because they never heard the Gospel of Christ.. so once Paul spoke about Jesus they were baptized again Into the body, the bride, the church of Christ.. God will add you to the church. The one church, Christ built. Acts 2:47
@@respectingthewordpodcast Welcome to the Body of Christ. Nice to meet you. We sometimes drift away.. into places that God does not have any reason of being there, sinful places. Sinful situations.. but He always has soldiers out there fighting to help others keep the faith. The church. Look online for the church of Christ in your area. If there is no congregation, stay home, study. God will make a way. I know He will. Stay home. Study. It’s better to be alone with God, then with a denomination that knows not God, until God finds you a location, where His children worship Him, in spirit and in truth.
The argument presented when bringing up Noah’s Ark, and how it had to be made of Gopher wood, doesn’t account for the main purpose of the flood, which had to do with the overwhelming majority of the people having wicked hearts. All of Genesis 6 explains the reason why God sent the flood in the first place. To use this argument of specifics regarding the type of wood God commanded Noah to use, in order to somehow compare the use of specifics to the church of Christ way, (in comparison to other churches) is completely out of context, and out of touch with the Lord’s heart. The people due to their wickedness broke His heart. He was sorry He ever made them. And only Noah found favor with the Lord.
He is the head or a part of the church. The term church of Christ is actually congregation of Chrust or people in relation to Christ. The earthly organization of coC is a denomination, which means taking on a name in association with others of that name. The real church has no name and those in it are those baptized into Christ. Salvation inst in the church, but Christ.
Where is that church which Jesus started in Ad 33? Let the church of Christ denomination tell us. They will probably claim it's them or somehow insinuate it's them
Es que en la icoc lamentablemente asi enseñaban que era la unica iglesia de Cristo verdadera y wue por eso se llamaban así, y que en otra no habia salvación, que debian ser bautizados solo en su grupo.Fue muy cruel todo ese maltrato a los creyentes, era una manipulación terrible, tanto que te volvian a bautizar si eras de otra denominación, y las preguntas que te hacian era de tal manera para inducirte a decir que no eras un verdadero cristiano y ahi ellos intervenian para decirte que debias volver s bautizarte.
This video is so misleading. church of God is another name given. In addition prior to Stone and Campbell -- Presbyters, supposedly the church of "Christ" was null in void. Which isn't the case at all. "God's church(s)" has been thriving since his death burial and resurrection. Church of Christ members are as sinful and in need of Gods grace regardless of which congregation one attends. That sect(which I'm extremely familiar with) will even "eat it's own." In Texas there was a huge split between an acapella side vs musical instrument side. Thousands of members split. Now in the blink of an eye, the musical instrument side are going to hell. It's crazy when one truly analyses the thinking process of the CoC sect. They LOVE sending people to hell. Well, each will give an account just like everyone else. And I doubt the arrogance and pride of being the "only" true believers is going to win out. Very misleading video.
I Ike what e said about the verbal asking for salvation. I'm going to call it the Joel Osteen salvation technique. Ad other negative churches. They want you to raise your hand Saya prayer then they say I believe you are now a child of God.
... and "live faithfully" does not include having any sort of fellowship with those who would be "change agents" within the church, including inviting them to speak a lectureships and/or participating at lectureships or programs in which they are presenters or speakers. I am speaking of those who endorse instrumental music, even though they may not personally employ it, and those who give a pass to female preachers, deacons, or elders. Learn from history. Brother McGarvey tried as did others. He later considered it a mistake. I had great aunts who lived long lives. They remembered the church of Christ changing the locks between services because the non-instrumental crowd was growing. A few weeks later, they changed the name to Christian Church. What was left of the church of Christ had to meet in the basement of the courthouse - and the building was awarded by the courts to the instrumental group. And it hasn't grown a whit since that fall day in about 1915. Stay away from them!
So if the Church of Christ is the body of believers that belong to Christ, are believers who trust and follow Him who are a members of a Baptist congregation a part of His church or not?
Jesus said that if two or three are gathered in his name there he is in their midst so the basic requirement for being a church is to gather in his name not a name, repent other God will judge you because James said those of us who teach will be sternly judged, stop teaching Campbell s errors, if you have nothing to preach just read the scriptures, they will preach themselves
Jesus said believe and be baptized. Mark 16:16 Paul said the CHURCHES OF CHRIST salute you. Romans 16:16 Paul said the church is the body and the body is the church. Ephesians 1:22-23 Body of Christ Church of Christ. Simple.
@@jarvisprice1992 yes but we must harmonize the scriptures, the story of Cornelius shows that God c cleansed him before baptised with water that's why the Jews were shocked otherwise they wouldn't have been shocked if being filled by the holy spirit can happen to a dirty unsaved vessel, you blasphem against the holy spirit when you refuse this fact, and God will judge those church of Christ people who blasphem and practices racism by claiming only them will go to heaven becuase they are the only church
The Question: Will only the members of the Church of Christ go to heaven. Simple question. There are only two answers. Yes and No. It shouldn't take 28 minutes to answer it.
@@ericschmit5911 only the faithful members of the church of Christ are going to go to heaven if you look at Matthew 13 it says the Kingdom of heaven is like a net it gathers in both good and bad
@@KeithWheeler-ey1pw Unfortunately no man can keep God's commandments. That is why Christ died on the cross. For our sins because we cannot keep the Commandments.
Ive got a Question no Christian will answer. So if only Christians go to heaven. That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct? Does that sound like something a good god would do.
Acts 17:30 Stop with the hypothetical and worry about YOURSELF. Those who have died are no longer able to get it right, therefore focus on you. There was a man in his 70s .. who finally decided to give his life to Jesus.. On the day he decided to be baptized for the remission of his sins… as he was walking up the staircase into the church building, he collapsed and died. Notice I said FINALLY decided . Who are YOU and I to tell God He is wrong for not allowing that man who was 70 to be saved? Who’s fault is that? You think God is playing? You go 70 years NOT looking for God.. not knowing your last day on earth… then die without God.. Yes, I do believe God gives us enough time to decide what we will consider and it’s not YOUR job to speak on God or anyone else. Focus on you
@@jarvisprice1992 i was raised christian and know the history of it. Your under the impression that i think god is a bad. On the contrary, i believe my god is good. Im a god follower. I think all these religions have it wrong in some way. Especially the part where you have to be a certain religion to go to heaven. They pretty much all are like that. I believe in the 10 comandments and follow them. And for the record, if you want to be "christ like". You shouldnt be like, focus on yourself. A good person wants to help others, especially in time of need. I would gladly give my life if it meant saving others.
@@frankfranz4428 So being Christ like is speaking truth in love. 1 Peter 4:15 “But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.” Worry about your self in the sense of your soul. Trying to save others by the Gospel being preached is the command! Now, you must not be a Christian! Christ said He would build a church. Not a building .. Paul said NOT to forsake the assembly of gathering together as some do. So Christ built a people and Paul said not to forsake gathering with these people, the church. You said something about having to be in a certain religion to go to heaven. What does religion mean? It means belief. You cannot be a Christian, speaking that way. You do not have Truth. You’re LITERALLY saying, ANY belief will get you to heaven.. How is THAT POSSIBLE, when GOD gave one belief … for ALL to believe. Jude 1:3 “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.” They have common salvation. Same order of salvation… how? The FAITH ONCE DELIVERED… Not many faiths. One Faith. One religion. One belief.. God created heaven and you’re telling me, He doesn’t care about HIS belief? John 3:16 to believe in Jesus. Mark 16:16 to believe and be baptized. Luke 13:3 to repent or perish. Matthew 10:32 to confess Christ as the Son of God. Acts 2:38 Be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.. That’s the plan of salvation.. All that other mess you’re speaking is mess and not Scripture..
Playing a game of semantics with the Word in order to prove one's perspective will lead you astray every time - just like what was done in this instance.
How does one contact the blood of Christ? Romans 6:3-5. What must one do when Jesus is preached? Read Acts 8:35-39. Jesus said "Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it; Matthew 7:14. Remember there is ONE body (Ephesians 4:4) and that body is the church (Colossians1:18). The church began on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:36-47). Jesus is the Head of the ONE body (Colossians1:18) and He is the Savior of the ONE body (Ephesians 5:23-25),the church that He bought with His blood (Acts 20:28).
@@lindahutchens8612 I know this stuff Christ paid the price I've accepted Christ I have confessed publicly and was baptized how many times do I have to tell everyone this this is what is discouraging me comments like this I know all these things but all everyone on this channel attacks me I attacked them back but I've prayed for them and me the comments need to stop because it's causing me trouble in my spiritual life so everyone drop your comments to me there not helping your making things worse so stop
@@lindahutchens8612 it's not you it's everyone else not all of them certain ones the reason why I got so mad at Caleb Robertson is over a question I asked him that was important he didn't answer my questions he did respond rudeley to me and I asked for him to apologize he could have done it the way a preacher is supposed to do but he didn't and that told me everything I needed to know about the Robertson s I don't listen to them I have other preacher's I listen to who truly know more than Caleb Robertson and jonney Robertson combined so I study my Bible plus I have other books of the Bible that were taken out by the translatier of the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts
@@harolddavis1493 I'm glad your not upset with me because I truly care about you. Please continue checking everything out that you hear from others with the word of God to see if it is in fact truth.
The saved are found assembling with Christians in many different denominations, even the Church of Christ denomination. Unfortunately, the group today that calls themselves the Church of Christ, has been misguided for decades in believing that their interpretation of scripture is infallible and superior to all others. They are not the only people who will be in heaven, in spite of their prideful assertions.
People continue to use the Bible translation as a way to manipulate God’s word as if he doesn’t have the power to protect his word?! He makes this promise in the last chapter of revelation ”And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person’s share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.“ Revelation 22:18-19 NLT
The church at Pentecost was a Jewish church the "little flock" not a Christian church. Church has different definitions depending on context. The church today, the body of Christ began with Paul not at Pentecost. Rightly dividing Israel's gospel from Paul's gospel is important!
Why would you want to be a part of a community where the leaders teach you(wrongly) that you don't have to do what Jesus and the apostles tell you to do? Repent-yes! Be baptized- No ,they say! Who are you going to trust?
From James the brother of Jesus. James 1 26 If any think they are religious and do not bridle their tongues but deceive their hearts, their religion is worthless. 27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
Hey, the only way of Salvation is not a Religion it is “Having a Relationship with JESUS CHRIST”, He was the One Who’s Blood 🩸 was shed to wash away our sin in order to be saved. Religion will lead you to hell. JESUS CHRIST DID NOT DIE TO HAVE RELIGION, HE DIED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
How, according to Scripture, does one have a relationship with Jesus Christ? In Acts 2:38, the Holy Spirit tells us. These are not man's words but Gods! The Holy Spirit speaking through Apostle Peter, says, "Repent & be baptized...."
“Please take a Bible and study with us.” Okay. I’m looking for anywhere in the Bible where it talks about people “going to Heaven.” I’m not finding it… Resurrected bodies, New Earth, etc. Finding those. But leaving and going somewhere else, namely “Heaven”? Not so much. People hear about “going to Heaven” and they tend to interpret this in a Gnostic fashion. Our bodies are bad; when we die we escape and go to a better place. This is not biblical. Our hope is not leaving for Heaven; but for Heaven to come to Earth (just as Jesus told us to pray). Our hope is not to escape our body, but for our “lowly bodies to be made alive by the Spirit”. We must be biblical in our language. I’m not even a Protestant; I reject Sola Scriptura. But I’m constantly amazed how people who say “I only follow the Bible” will use such unbiblical language like “Who will go to Heaven? What will Heaven be like?”
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Ive got a Question no Christian will answer. So if only Christians go to heaven. That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct? Does that sound like something a good god would do?
@@frankfranz4428Ive got a Question no Christian will answer.
ME: Are you ready for the answer? Hope so 😊.
So if only Christians go to heaven.
ME: Are you aware the word Christian is written only 3 times? Disciple is written over 260 times.
Jesus Himself said in;
Luke 14:26
26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
Parallel in Matthew 10:34-39
I would strongly urge you to read all of both chapters of both books for a better understanding.
That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct?
ME: This is not so, 1st followers of Christ are told this in
Mark 16:15-16
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
In Romans 1:18-32 (verse 20)
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
Men have no excuse, if you have read the Bible men throughout time have heard and even witnessed God's power and still denied Him this is why men are without excuse in Romans 1:20 above.
I strongly encourage you to read the entire chapter.
Does that sound like something a good god would do?
ME: God has tasked believers to tell the good news and it is done all over the world. Mankind has no excuse. Just as you asked these questions here this means you know and are aware of God which also means you have no excuse.
You focus on your life in telling the good news and let God deal with making ways for mankind to know.
I don't know if you believe in God, but whatever your status, you have no excuse and BTW, the question you asked implies you question God's abilities and authority.
@@frankfranz4428there are very few on earth who will never hear the gospel; but the Bible says those men will be judged by their conscience and God-given light. “Shall not the judge of the whole earth do right?” He will do right. He is just.
LOVE this program! Thank you both so much. God bless you. 🙏
God bless you i and my family are member of church of christ in Ethiopia this is what God made us to do.
I don't have to be a member of any denomination in order to be saved, but I do have to be a member of the Lord's Church to be saved. As was pointed out in Acts 2, it says that those who received the word and were baptized, The Lord ADDED THEM TO THE SAVED, which is the Church, so when I repented and was baptized, God added me to the saved, his church, not a denomination. Listen to what Paul says in 1Cor1:12 " each one of you says, "I BELONG TO PAUL", OR "I BELONG TO APOLLOS," OR "I BELONG TO CEPHAS", OR " I BELONG TO CHRIST". "IS CHRIST DIVIDED? was Paul CRUCIFIED FOR YOU?" or were you baptized in the name of Paul"? So, was Paul crucified for you? was Apollos? was Cephas? No they were not....were you baptized into Paul's name? Apollos name? Cephas name? NO, YOU WERE NOT, SO YOU DO NOT BELONG TO THEM!!!Now how about Christ? Did Christ die for you? YES HE DID. Were you baptized into his name, YES I WAS.....SO I BELONG TO CHRIST!!! SO, WHY WOULD I WEAR A MAN'S NAME? I belong to Christ, I should wear his name. Is Baptist, Lutheran , Methodist etc...the name of Christ?
If you're careful to not wear a man's name, you should be careful to realize you're only saved by being in Christ-not by being in the church. If you're saved in Christ, you're part of His church. But you aren't saved by becoming a member of the Church. The church is people, and we can't save ourselves. But by the way, most Baptists, Methodists, etc. look to Jesus for their salvation instead of their church. This is better than a lot of CoC folks, who think they're saved by being in the right church.
@@bluegorillacookies Romans 12:4-5 For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, 5 so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
We are to be all a part of the body, if you are cut off from the head (Christ) you cannot live, therefore the church (people/body) must be connected to one another all connected to the head.
@@kevinmarku2944 If you're connected to the Head, you'll be connected to each other. Church is important, but it doesn't save you. There are lots of church fellowship schisms even in the mainline CoC. Which one is going to Heaven under your reasoning?
I attend a coc now, and I’m finding that our preacher has taken scripture completely out of context, in order to link it back to attending a coc specifically. It seems to always sound like this… If you’re not attending a coc, you’ve gone off the right path. If you’re not attending a coc, and you disagree with what I’m saying, you’re apostate. He’ll jump around from verse to verse, to make a point, which is always- the coc is the only way. But true believers know without a doubt that religion will never save us. John Chapter 6 in its full and correct context, is all about Jesus, being the only way, and believing in Him is the key. And of course through that sincere belief, our sanctification process through the Holy Spirit follows.
In this video, you initially answer the correct way, saying Jesus made it clear He’s the only way, then continuing on, you begin to say otherwise. That’s called lying. Jesus doesn’t care who plants, or who waters, as He is the one who makes us grow.
“It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow.”
1 COR 3:7 NLT
1 Corinithians 3:6-9 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.
You are poorly misusing that verse I am afraid, the point is that anyone can plant a seed, anyone can do the watering, but we must always remember that God does the growing and that at most we are only co-workers of the Lord, for that very reason we are co-workers with the Lord when we baptize individuals gifting them the holy spirit, therefore faith justifies us and maintains our status, but faith alone in Christ means nothing for even the demons believe, and they shudder James 2:19
I hope this helps, I used to believe in faith alone, and I always felt like I was going down a rabbit hole of not believing hard enough, or not feeling God, but the truth is the only way we can "feel God" is through scripture and truly knowing him.
@@kevinmarku2944 anyone can plant, anyone can water, which is the exact point I’m making. 🤍 be blessed, condemn less. Leave the judgement to God. Follow him, be honest, have a good heart, cling to the scriptures in order to encourage yourself and others, not to condemn.
Yes, you're so right. . . This guy does switch gears and talk out of both sides of his mouth. It's a slight of hand/mouth that most people who were brainwashed to this false doctrine won't catch because they're only looking for reasons to keep believing what they believe-that they're right and everyone else going to Hell. I'm a CoC minister, and I hate the crap that these guys are teaching. It's filth and it's false and their Scriptures are out of context. But you're right, sister. It's about being in Christ. If you're in Christ, then you're automatically in the church as God sees things. Not a sign on the door, etc. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, but you're not crazy. Hang in there.
@@bluegorillacookies I’ve been attending another COC and it’s completely different in it’s messaging. It’s about God, faith, love, less quarreling and more encouraging. That’s the kind of messaging I wanted to hear. Not back and forth about this or that. Believe and be baptized. Focus on your own sanctification and encourage others to do the same. Less fighting about the sign on the door and more about your secret relationship with God- the one only He knows and sees.
@@Watergardengirl Amen...that's fantastic. There are some great congregations out there. If all of them taught church-based salvation and other traditions of men like these guys, I'd be gone altogether. Thankfully there are some "sound" (healthy) CoC churches that do preach the actual Good News about Jesus instead of spending their time patting themselves on the back for getting everything right while missing the most important aspects of the faith, like the doctrines of grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It's those congregations and the brothers and sisters in them that keep me here. But also the need I see to admonish others against the falsehoods of legalism when I can. God bless you.
Thank you so much- I found this lesson very encouraging 🙏🏽
If you mean only people saved in Christ, yes.
If you mean only the people these guys associate with, no.
They've never claimed such. A person could call it "the church of God" and be just as scriptural. I admit that I do not know of any, however.
@@brendanjobe6895 Yes ,they do claim that. Ask them if the people who do attend the “Church of God” can be saved. They’ll acknowledge that certain other “denominations” might be doing abc right, but there’s ALWAYS something else they’re doing wrong that will send them to hell in their opinion. But the truth is, they have some
Serious errors and blind spots, as well as false teaching.
But call them on it, and they ignore it or sweep it under the rug because they’ve been brainwashed to think they’re THE perfect church. This is why they damn people who use instruments but not the churches of Christ of the early 1960s when CoC universities were some of the last in the country to desegregate. Also, they don’t care about neglecting or teaching falsely on the doctrines of grace and the Holy Spirit, but get the end times wrong and you’re going to hell in their eyes.
@@bluegorillacookies * Yes ,they do claim that. * Paul asked the question... is Christ divided? It was a rhetorical question the answer of which is no. If Jesus adds those who are being saved to the church... it stands to reason it is only that one. Ephesians 4 says there is one body. It also says there is one faith associated with that one body. We are at odds not teaching the same thing. It means we don't share the same faith. The only way we end up in the same place is if we are both in error. Since we don't teach the same thing it is set that we will not go to heaven together. * They’ll acknowledge that certain other “denominations” * Coc is a fellowship of autonomous congregations standing on the same premise to congregate according to biblical precepts (in other words... by faith). It is hoped that in so doing we avoid denominationalism. That you identify us as a denomination I'm assuming is a blatant attempt to be inflammatory. We seek unity in truth. Just because we may not be dealing with Catholicism does not mean that the unity of denominationalism is not ecumenical. Any unity that does not come by truth is fraudulent and a pretense. It is infuriating to protestant denoms that we reject ecumenicism with them.
@@bluegorillacookies * “denominations” might be doing abc right, but there’s ALWAYS something else they’re doing wrong that will send them to hell in their opinion. * You only know my opinion when I give it to you and not before. I am not the judge. If you want to stand before God wearing a denominational name... God is perfectly capable of determining if that reflects what he sought to institute by his son. * they have some Serious errors and blind spots, as well as false teaching. * No question about it... we all have blindspots. We could all find one more thing to repent. And we could all spend a little more time studying to make our election sure. But the fact remains that the issues we are discussing here... are not our mistake.
@@thundershadow Hello, and thank you for your thoughts. I feel like you showed what your opinions were by your comments. You don't seem to realize that the claim that 'all other groups are wearing a man's name' is slander. It's not true. There are Presbyterians...because long before the Restoration Movement, they came to believe in the importance of elders (presbyters). The Baptists were labeled that because they didn't believe in baptizing children.
I don't know of any mainline "denomination" that claims to have a man as the head of the church. Only cults do that. In fact, I've heard much richer and deeper christology from people in those groups than I have in the "CoC." Sure, there are people who acknowledge their history...we would do better if we did. We've been kind of willfully ignorant that our fellowship was began in the 1800s in Frontier America. We've also been willfully ignorant of all the reformers and pilgrims and people who gave their lives to bring us the Bible in our language. We just considered all the "denominations" to be rebellious splinters and divisions from the "one true church", when the truth was that it took sacrifice and courage to bring a people from only knowing Catholicism in Europe, to the point where they fought for religious freedom of conscience as people had more and more access to the Scriptures. From Luther calling out corruption in the Catholic church, to those who were persecuted because they didn't want to baptize infants, to those who left the church of England, etc. etc.
But we've had terrible christology. In fact, when people in the CoC claim that Christ and the church are synonymous (as this video is implying and I've heard in other legalistic circles), they are the ultimate worshipers of man. How? Well, the church is PEOPLE, but when people in the CoC claim you have to be in 'their' church to be saved, they're trying to save themselves by themselves.
Only Catholics, Mormons, Holdeman Mennonites, and the Church of Christ (maybe a few others) claim that salvation is in the church. It's false doctrine because salvation is in Jesus. If you're in Jesus, you're in the church automatically. But don't think the church saves you. Jesus does.
Of course, they'll claim it's the Lord's church because they're not a denomination. But when they use "Church of Christ" or "church of Christ" as a title to distinguish from other believers, they're acting more denominational than most others.
God bless you
You so correctly says "You must be in the BODY" of Christ it does not say in the "Physical church"" of Christ. It is a spiritual church. People can come together in a building but each person is a building block in the Third Temple (the church of Christ) a spiritual Temple.
We are in the new covenant now
Covenant means agreement. Only the converted are in Covenant agreement. All the rest are under the wrath of God.
Fire and Brimstone.The absolute Truth has been PREACH here MY BRETHRENS.
Such a blessing praise God
How do you get into body? Believe, repent, baptism, be faithful? What of those who do these but still worship in another congregation that is scriptually doing things outside of the Word. Different name, have instruments, etc.
Although the Ark was geographically located and had physical boundaries. The church isn’t defined geographically.
If there are people who are doing those things but attending a church that has beliefs that go against God's word, then they are just as wrong. Paul said in 1 Corinth 11:1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. If anyone falls away from Christ, their followers must no longer support them. We ought not to do anything that goes against God's word. Like you said about different church names... there are no Catholic, Presbyterian, Mormon, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Calvanist, Baptist, Non-Denominational (most follow Baptist beliefs) churches authorized in the Bible, therefore we are not authorized to attend them. There are six steps to Salvation: 1. Hear 2. Believe 3. Repent 4. Confess 5. Baptism 6. Continue to walk obediently in faith
The use of instruments in church: we are not authorized in the NT to use instruments during worship. That was the OT. A lot of people believe that if God doesn't expressly tell us not to do things such as "You must not use instruments while worshipping" then they are allowed to." If that were the case, the Bible would be very big!!
@@Quinn-xw5eg How is the COC a cult? I know that there have been false leaders claiming to be of Christ, but that's minority when they are related to the COC. Christ tells us that their will be false prophets, but that doesn't mean all are.
@Quinn Cults are typically defined as
A religious group far outside the mainstream that have overly controlling leadership or dangerous practices.
Signs are, they:
Pull people away from their families
Practice Emotional manipulation
Damage personalities
Provide opposite of spiritual fulfillment
Physically abuse its members
Brainwashing
Shunning those who leave
Powerful leadership with no accountability for whom the group has excessively zealous and unquestioned commitment.
Preoccupation with bringing in new members
Preoccupation with making money
Questioning, doubt or dissent are discouraged or even punished.
Leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act and feel (permission from leaders to date, change jobs, get married, prescriptions of what clothes to wear, where to live, how to discipline children, etc.)
Elitist, claiming a special exalted status for itself, it’s leadership and members. (Example…leader is considered the messiah or an avatar, the group has a special mission to save humanity).
Has a polarized ‘us vs them’ mentality which creates conflict with the wider society.
Ends justify the means mentality (for example: collecting money for bogus charities).
Leader induces a feeling of guilt in members to control them.
Members subservience to the group causes cutting ties with family, friends, and personal group goals and activities that were of interest before joining the group.
Expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group.
Encouraged to live and socialize only with other members of the group.
Mind numbing techniques such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation session, debilitating work routines are used to suppress doubts about the group and its leader.
A group that is unfamiliar, disliked or feared isn’t a cult.
Labeling a group a cult is a cowardly way of tolerating, condoning, appeasing or promoting favored (popular) religions while simultaneously disparaging minority religions. Who gets slapped with the cult smear depends on the length of membership rolls and political, economic, social influence count. - Guy Harrison, atheist.
Theological definition:
Heretical sect:
A religious group that denies one or more of the fundamentals of biblical truth. A cult is a group that teaches doctrine that, if believed, will cause a person to remain unsaved. A cult claims to be part of a religion yet it denies central truths of that religion.
@@Quinn-xw5egis your job to go around “they’re a cult”
You look like a clown.
@5:30 there has NEVER ever been a time when God condemned or saved the soul of even a single man for "being in a certain place" your comparison to the ark of Noah represents a completely fraudulent account for not a single person beyond the 8 of faith was permitted to enter the ark though they tried, the determination of who would be let in was made by virtue of Noah's having "found grace in God's eyes".. and furthermore, who cares about the saving of the flesh??? What does is profit a man to gain the whole *_WORLD_* and lose his soul?
I'm a minister in the Church of Christ, but y'all have the cart before the horse.
You're not saved because you're in the church. Instead you're in the church if you're saved in Christ. Thirteen minutes an and you haven't answered the question, because you make an assumption that people in other denominations don't have Christ as the foundation. What in the world do you think they're doing all Sunday? They're preaching and teaching about Jesus.
The Church of Christ as a whole needs to repent of slandering all other denominations (they're not all the same) as if no one else looks to Christ for their salvation. The irony is that the COC looks to the church for their salvation, using the claim that it's the only group that is the church Jesus built as a buttressing point.
The church is just people, and people can't save themselves. Look to Jesus.
Stop viewing the Ark as the church. Jesus is the Ark. He's also the door, the way, the truth, and the life.
Jesus purchased the church with His own blood;Acts 20:28.
@@lindahutchens8612 Yes He did! But Or is the church a building, or a philosphy or a 4th member of the Godhead?
What is the church? It is people. You're not saved by means of being in the church. You are in the church of God if you are saved.
So it's not, "God saves me because I am a member of the church." It is, "God saved me, therefore I am part of the church.
@bluegorillacookies, where is the church you are a part of? I would love to visit
@@Theresa2424 We'd absolutely love that :) It's in South Fork, CO. It's a pretty amazing Family!
finally, an answer I can agree with. sorry to ask, but just out of curiosity, which "type" of church of christ do u go to?
i mean, there's non-instrumental, there's one cupper, there's ICOC, then we have the churches of christ/christian churches, and we have COC Disciples of christ
In the end, denominations are just man's ways of coping with their differing scripture interpretations. What truly matters is that Jesus "knows" who are his.
I also go to a church of christ. This culture of exclusivity, and that we are the "true" church, and that we're the only ones gettinsaved...it's just TBH, just exhausting, somewhat kind arrogant, prrideful and as you said, putting the cart before the horse. Study Jesus. God to hm. knowhim. Love him. worship him. Read his teachings and take it to heart and live it. He is full of grace. He knos hs church.
Your video smacks of undeniable truth. God be praised!
I was brought up in the Church of Christ and I attend a Church of Christ today. There are things I believe we must do to go to Heaven like being baptized and repenting of our sins. That doesn’t mean that we’re not going make mistakes or that God’s grace is not going to cover our sins. I believe we need to make a conscious effort to do what’s right. I would never say that someone that has been baptized and believes in God and attends a Baptist church is not going to Heaven, that’s not my place that is God’s place and He knows peoples hearts.
I have some concerns about how Christians are starting to think 🤔 that it’s possible for someone in a man made religion make it to heaven how, because first of all I know that we have family and friends that attend other denominations and they’re really good people in the book of Mark 8:3 And when he had a called the people into him his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself,and take up his cross,follow me. As bad as we want them to be saved they have to save themselves it’s a reason why I was added to the Church of Christ I believed whole heartily at the age of 12 I was baptized without mother or father being present and had never discussed it with them. I wouldn’t tell nobody that it’s possible to find salvation in another religion Acts 4:12 There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved. These are words of Peter addressed to the Jewish leaders. I had the opportunity to attend a Baptist Church for a scholarship presentation it was a young man that wanted to be Baptized they took his confession and said the next week the Baptism would take place so I asked the preacher after service how can you take a confession and baptize later it’s no illustration in the New Testament of a baptism taking place like that, he said well you’re right it’s just a traditional was and sometimes it’s hard to get people to accept the truth, so in other words your saying that you know better but to not rock the boat 🛥️ it’s better to keep things as they are 🤔. So if the Baptism is wrong how are you going to end up right? When you go down into the watery grave of baptism that’s when you receive the Holy Ghost being Baptized by a male member of the Church of Christ so how are they going to receive the Holy Ghost, and plus a whole lot of things that wasn’t doctrine that I saw
@@lisarudolph7529You’re entire confession/testimony- is identical to mines. 12 years old. Baptized into Christ. We all waver but to get back on the path of Righteousness like the prodigal son is only by a changed mind, Grace and Mercy.
@@jarvisprice1992 @ lisarudolph7529 A to the MEN people have to understand that you have to bend your will to God’s will. And I feel so sad for so many of my Christian brothers and sisters that have been in the Gospel for more than 20 plus years, can tell you more about what’s going on in a denomination organization than what the basic principles of the COC. People all so have to understand that the words of inspiration is what feeds your spirit, if your not studying, it’s a big difference between studying and reading the word, and now in the church we have a lot of our preachers teaching the Alexander Campbell theology which is sad 😞, it’s Christian’s in other organizations so they say, I question 🙋🏿♂️ one of our deacons about that, my question was how can you be baptized wrong and end up right, he didn't have a book, chapter, and verse answer, his only response was so you trying to tell me that it's no Christians in other churches, and what happens if you heard the wrong message and was baptized right, my next question is John 3:5 Jesus answered Truly, Truly I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. How can you get the spirit in a denomination organization if your not baptized by a male member of the COC Baptism and the Holy Spirit goes together.
We don’t have to do anything. Jesus did all
@@lisarudolph7529 Exactly. You cannot be taught wrong and be saved, by that false teaching.
Some people nowadays are confusing LEGALISM with OBEDIENCE to God's commands which are found in His Word,the Bible.The denominational world and the world at large are guilty of ILLEGALISM,which is DISOBEDIENCE to God's commands. If we don't obey God,our only other choice is to disobey Him. I love and respect everybody out there. All people must come to Christ in LOVING OBEDIENCE by repenting of all past sins and being baptized (immersed) to have those past sins washed away. Then Jesus will ADD you to His one and only church: the church of Christ. You see,a person doesn't JOIN a denomination. When you obey God's commands on salvation,He will add us to that one precious body. Jesus will always put you in the right church when you fully obey Him. After becoming a true Christian,find a good church of Christ to worship and serve with. I or GBN can help you find one. I know this sounds harsh to some. It did to me at one time,but I'm saved now. Again,I love(agape) all people. Richard Rhoden
I would like to get some info on a good church of Christ to attend in Alabama the central region
They always have, Joe. It's nothing new.
Stating you must be baptized to be saved is legalism. It's following the law preached to the Jews. We are saved by grace through faith alone. Even Peter admitted that Paul's ideas were hard to understand but then he later agreed with Paul and encouraged Jews to listen to Paul. Paul got his gospel directly from God. Why do you think God revealed his gospel to Paul? Because the Jews were not receiving what Peter was preaching. Paul's gospel says salvation is for both Jew and Gentiles alike and we are saved by belief.
@@BrenB125 Peter and Paul preached the same thing.
@brendanjobe6895 Peter preached to the Jews. Peter taught to repent and be batized for the remission of sins in order to be saved. Paul preached to the Gentiles that we are saved by the grace of God through our faith and belief.
At first listening to BJ talking about the denomination of the church of Christ, (early in the video) I thought he was saying that the church of Christ is a denomination. But I listened again and realized that I misunderstood. Just so others don’t get confused, It is not a denomination, but the original church that Jesus built and gave His life for. He paid for it with His blood, as you are saying.
A denomination is a church that has split off from the original, (which there are many, as you know), because someone didn’t like something about the original church, and wanted to identify their denomination as a separate church, and now we have thousands of them and new ones popping up all the time.
Thank you for this very import video! You hit on so many scriptures that make it ultra clear, without a doubt, that there is one Lord, one faith, (one baptism), (Ephe 4:4, 5) that is Christ’s church. And just like baptism is necessary to become a member of His church, the Bible makes it ultra clear, and we will be dammed if we try to change one thing about it to suit our own likes or dislikes.
@@Quinn-xw5egProve it???
@@Quinn-xw5eg Burden of proof is on you. You made the claim. I’m not proving anything. Scripture is still Scripture. Jesus saves.
Can you show me who Jesus is coming back for?
Is He coming back for anybody, sinner’s too?
Is He coming back for individuals?
Is He coming back for His Church, or Bride?
It’s one of those 3.
Let’s see if you know Bible or if you’re just talking because you’re in your feelings and hate Gods household. Let’s see.
@@Quinn-xw5eg THOUGHT SO. All talk! You’re the only cult I see.
Hate spewing from you.
@@Quinn-xw5eg Jesus will prove it to you when he comes back!
@@kevinking-kf2lb Kevin,you are confusing LEGALISM with OBEYING God's commands in His Word,the Bible. The denominational world has so much ILLEGALISM,which is DISOBEDIENCE to God's commands. Sir,I love and respect you and everybody. Please come to Jesus in loving obedience by repenting of your past sins and being buried with Jesus in baptism to have those past sins washed away. Then Christ will ADD you to His one and only church: the church of Christ. You and all people must obey God's commands. The only other choice is to disobey His commands. I know this sounds harsh to you now. It did to me at onetime,but I'm saved now. Take care and thanks for your comment. RIchard
Thank you servants of God, am very blessed 🙏❤️💯
One of the main teachings of the Old Testament is man was imperfect and was never going to be able to keep the old law. Thank the Lord for giving us his son, the perfect sacrifice, truly washing away our sins.
I believe the argument people are trying to make is more about only people going to a CofC today are saved? Vs. a community church X or denomination Y.
The discussion should be focused on the teachings of the “church” being debated, that is where the real debate is at.
Yes, if you look at the churches of the world, there are few to none, who claim that Baptism is washing away of sins required for salvation, faith alone believes that faith alone is enough to be saved, the Catholics know however that Baptism is required, but they baptize babies which is not right either, the Church of Christ claims they are the one Church because no one else preaches this doctrine, which is backed by scripture that physical baptism is work of God not of man, and saves you, by washing away your sins, through the covering of Jesus's blood on us during the participation of the burial death and resurrection of Christ himself.
This is the main issue being discussed, and majority of the United States believes in faith alone because of Martin Luther, not wanting to follow the Catholic Church, (who is also wrong) and losing the idea that Baptism is required, but merely a post saving work, which is just not true.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
The Roman Catholic Church say Mary represents the Ark and the coc say their church represents the ark. The truth is, Jesus represents the ark.
The catholic church does not teach that Mary is the ark. Mary is the new ark of the covenant that contained the presence of God. Mary carried God the second person of the trinity in her.
I hear so many foljs from denominations say that the differing denominations are branches grafted in with the body of Christ.
They are hard nuts to crack to show them the error in that belief.
I have a peace about my spirit listening to these men.
I went and downloaded the app. I take everything to the Lord in prayer.
Wow ! The app is beyond what I expected.
Thank you all so much , who put this together.
God bless you lovers of The King of Kings, Jesus Christ !
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I think a big point to make is the Church of Christ big C isn’t just the church of Christ small c.
Thank you both for all your hard work, inspiration and knowledge in sharing God's word so that we have a better understanding. You guys are awesome. God bless
Good afternoon brothers .I witch to be a member of the Church of Christ
Great! Where ever you are located, FIND the church of Christ and they will teach you, so that you may be saved.
What shull I do?
@@nelsonsoiane4451 look online for the CHURCH OF CHRIST in your area …
Tell them you want to become a Christian..
They will lead you into the correct way.
Kindly search on Google maps for the nearest Church of Christ. Visit them and discuss your aim to be a member. They will teach you, once you're still convicted to be a follower of Christ, you will be baptised for the remission of your sins and Christ at that point will add you to His Church. I'd love to know how it goes.
Jesus didnt say you get to heaven depending on what your church sign says out front or by which seminary the preacher of your church went to.
When was Church of Christ established?
The Church of Christ was organized according to a commandment from God on April 6, 1830.
Acts 2;38
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This is a great subject. You did a wonderful job explaining about THE CHURCH. I really think you should consider following it up with will ALL MEMBERS of the church of Christ go to heaven. It needs to be a back-to-back show because that's often the next objection to becoming a member of the church. Even if someone is convinced that the church of Christ is the 'right' church. Often, they can't seem to get past the behavior of some of the people they know who are members-& that is a stumbling block for them. Thank you.
The COC is a cult ! I was in one! GBN keeps deleting comments! That's what cults do!!
That's why I am not a coc member I'm just a Christian
It is the same question asked with different words. Must you be a member of the Church of Christ? Must you get to heaven exclusively by Jesus Christ? When a person accepts the gospel what denomination does God/Christ add them to? (Of course, God does not add anyone to a denomination. He only recognizes denominations as false equivalents of the church that he builds).
The Church of Christ is people. Jesus is not the church. This is not the first time I've heard such foolishness. Give the glory to Christ. Saying the church and Jesus are essentially the same thing is elevating man to Christ's status. Repent of this legalism, brother.
@@bluegorillacookies Jesus is a few things according to scripture. Each one of those things that come to my mind proves you don't know what you are talking about. He is the head of the church. He is the chief cornerstone of the church. He is the vine and those added to him are the branches. The things that I'm saying are matters of faith. I believe them because they are in scripture. I don't remember saying that Jesus and the church were essentially the same thing. That sounds like someone is trying to put words in my mouth. It sounds like you are making an argument best levied at Catholics of which I am not. Do not tell me to repent when you are the one that is wrong. Of course, I have things to repent of... I'm afraid for my soul... But you... need to study more then maybe you wouldn't make so many mistakes.
@@bluegorillacookies Oh, by the way, Jesus became a man. He didn't stop being one that I'm aware of. Yes, he is God. He never stopped being God.
@@thundershadow Yes, Jesus did become a man. But Jesus and the church are not synonymous.
@@thundershadow This is what I was responding to: "It is the same question asked with different words. Must you be a member of the Church of Christ? Must you get to heaven exclusively by Jesus Christ?"
Nope, not the same question with different words AT ALL. You equated the "Church of Christ" with Jesus.
If you don't see the error there, I can spend more time and explain it.
22:10 brother BJ you said if Jesus was alive what would He say?
Was that a mistake?
Good teaching Brothers!!!!!!!!
You don't know if I'm saved I have obeyed the gospel so if you got a problem don't comment to me anymore the last comment I said I'm sorry but when you lie and I know you lied y ok u don't know me so I you don't have the right to say anything about it you might not be I believe in the finished work of Christ but you push me to far
@@harolddavis1493 I believed it so much I obeyed it.
Faith without works is a dead religion.
@@jarvisprice1992 you don't know me I got two black guys playing with me tired of it so that's the solution to get you put of my life you really think I'm going to take these lies I already don't trust you people
@@jarvisprice1992 you don't know what I do I have faith and I have done good works I don't brag about it see people of your type probably don't really understand what I'm talking about you just don't do learn the Bible learn Greek and Hebrew quit with you nonsense you're spewing out about me I can't talk with you types you don't my relationship with the LORD but sadly you people think you do but you dont
@@jarvisprice1992 Jarvis you are those types of people you might not be able to understand biblical theology you don't know me the reason is you don't attend Eastwood church of Christ you don't attend or anything don't live around me your just talking that's it
There were no Church Of Christs before Alexander Campbell in 1840.
Romans 16:16 ❤🙏
@@albertmomberger That says "churches of Christ...(plural)" There is no "Church of Christ" in the Scriptures. It was never meant to be a name for a singular title the way we've done.
That is not correct, Old Philadelphia in warren county tenn. 1805, look it up my friend.
@@rogerdraper71 His point still stands, just insert a different date and time
@@bluegorillacookies The Campbell's didn't break from the Baptist till 1827-1830. There is a church of Christ here where i live in clay county tn. that was started in 1807, the Campbell's were still in England to my knowledge.
VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU FOR SUCH A POWERFUL PROGRAM 😊
Was there a piano on the ark??
Must a person be BAPTIZED in order to be saved? If a person decides to accept and follow Jesus and is killed 5 minutes later, are they lost because they werent Baptized??
God does not give coincidence or chance, if they were meant to be saved, they would have been baptized. These scenarios are fighting God's supremacy over the world's order.
@@kevinmarku2944 Isnt that Calvinism?
@@CWDude no sir you still have the free will to be baptized and follow God’s word if you so choose, God doesn’t force anyone to do anything
You are saved the moment you put your faith in Jesus Christ period.
No you do not have to be baptized. Read Paul's gospel. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. After we are saved then we get baptized. I was saved as a teen but wasn't baptized til age 39. My parents had me baptized as a baby and I thought that's all I needed until I learned the truth about baptism.
This is what makes the coc look like a cult because there's not church's of Christ everywhere there's only one in my area the next on is a long way so there's salvation in CHRIST
Brother greeting's : Excellent Teaching I am Khaasim Shaik and I am a Church of Christ .
What about all the other Christians in history? Before Church of christ was established by Campbell. I'm aware you guys claim that it wasn't started by Campbell and that it was Christ's church. Where's the history of this church before Campbell? Is it really that from Campbells time to now those were the only people getting saved and everyone before that was dammed because they were part of denominations?
Read the book of Acts
What kind of arrogance must one have to say, "it's possible for me to lose my Salvation.... but I haven't".
It seems to me that this line of reasoning rests on something of a fallacy of equivocation. I'm not a Presbyterian, but I might use that to illustrate. My Presbyterian friend does not claim to be part of "John Knox's church." Neither did Knox did not claim to start his own church. Rather, he recognized that what he was active in reforming was and must remain Christ's church. By the way, I grew up in the Church of Christ and even attended Freed-Hardeman.
I am a member of Church of Christ.
I was told by missionaries of Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints that the rock the church was build on is REVELATION.. and not ...
Wonderful message brother, im praying for you, please remember for india orpganage. They are sending their love.
Another great lesson brothers!!
They've got taking the scriptures out of context down to a science, or should I say religion.
Church of Christ is accurate Bible prescribed prescription for SOUL
Every CoC congregant and pastor that I have ever met believed that anyone not in their organization was not saved. They also believed that anyone who worshiped with a musical instrument is going to g to hell
Good message🙏
Church doesn't save you Jesus does
He's the savior of the body, which is the church. That's facts..
These people's convoluted hermaneutic has so many moving parts that it would make a particle physicist's head spin.
Doubt I'll get a response, but this seems as good a place as any to ask. For context, I'm a member of the Church of Christ (to avoid cofusion, the building has the physical words church of Christ). I have a friend who is getting baptized on this coming Sunday. However, he is getting baptized at and into a denominational church. I was invited to a lunch with him and his girlfriend to support him in his baptism. Is it wrong for me to go in support. Personally, my feelings on it are that he's getting much closer to the Lord and is taking active steps, but I'm not certain if his baptism is legitimate and if it's not, is it better to go to support him and keep the line open and therefore possibly be able to bring him even closer? Or is it better to distance myself from the event entirely and tell him that it's not a scriptural baptism. Thanks for any advice.
Hey there, that's a great question. I'm a CoC minister, but this video has reminded me of all the false teaching in our own brotherhood. These guys are acting as if you join the church to be saved. They're picturing the church as an ark, which is a vessel of salvation. But if the church is the lifeboat, where's Jesus? Bottom line, the church can't save you...the church is people, and we can't save ourselves!
These guys and others are always talking about the Church in ways that aren't biblical. Paul would be shaking his head because they've turned it into the ultimate denomination. They rant about how they're the original 1st century church,...but which one? The Galatian church? The church in Thyratira? The Corinthian church? We have a great majority of the NT because these churches had problems.
Can I ask what church your friend is going to be baptized at? You might be surprised at how much better a lot of these other church groups understand and teach the Gospel than some legalistic CoC's that condemn everyone for not being perfect, all while having major flaws themselves.
Yeah dude, go support him, when I got Baptized by the ICC, I had friends from the reformed movement come and support me, keep the line open, and see if God can work in his heart, because like Paul said in Acts 19:3-5
So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?” “John’s baptism,” they replied. Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Basically faith alone believes that Baptism is of repentance, which is not true anymore, it is of salvation, through a working of God, thus if you are not being baptized into Christ, having his blood sprinkled onto you, then you are sadly not saved, Jesus said people would die for a lack of knowledge, thus if you do not have knowledge of the truth when you are baptized, it's kinda like what's the point of being baptized then.
This being said, go support him, continue to teach him the scripture and be friends with him that is all you can do, for in 1 Corinthians 3:6-9, I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.
Sorry for the long comment, but I just wanted to encourage you, that God will water, you have to plant the seed. Love you bro you got this.
@@kevinmarku2944 this is what the church is all about, man. Thanks. I hope everything is going well in your life and I pray the Lord be with you!
Hey,Turbo1,my name is Richard Rhoden from Muscle Shoals,Alabama. I'm glad you are my brother in Christ! This "baptism" you are talking about my have already taken place by now. Brother,you shouldn't attend it. HOWEVER,if you do,you need to be lovingly teaching him God's true Plan of Salvation every day you can. I've seen this happen before: a member of Christ's church attends a denominational event in order to "support" a relative or friend. Then they freeze up,get tongue tied and never have the Godly courage to teach their relative or friend the true way to become saved,a Christian! I pray you lead this soul to Jesus so He can add him to His church: the church of Christ. Turbo1,I love you in the Lord,and I hope we will see each other in Heaven after this life is over! Sincerely in Christ,Richard Rhoden
@@joerhoden4919 You seem like a kind person...but I want to challenge your thinking.
I think you're wrong on many levels. I lovingly ask you to support your label of "denominational" with Scripture. What do you mean by that?
Why are you so confident that it's ok, to blaspheme the very high priestly prayer of Jesus for unity in the Gospel of John before His crucifixion?
Did you know that there are no Scriptures that support a "salvation by the one true church" doctrine?
"Denominational" is a label we've thrown at every other group, while acting just like a "denomination" ourselves. We haven't even got a good definition of what it is, and if you do define it, chances are we fit right in.
"Denominational vs. 'the Lord's church'" is based on the false premise we can preform perfectly as a church this side of heaven.
If you want to truly restore the New Testament church, you have to decide which one: The Ephesian church, or the Thessalonian church, or the Jerusalem church, or the Galatian church. They all had problems, and that's why the epistles were written.
But if you think your salvation lies in being perfect, be prepared to re-introduce: lifting holy hands in prayer, falling down on the floor in worship, the holy kiss, sharing possessions, anointing with oil, laying on of hands, speaking in tongues, head coverings, prophecy (including women praying and prophesying), participatory worship without a set schedule, the Lord's Supper as part of a meal...and meeting in homes. Get rid of the church building, which is an addition that consumes vast resources and creates a temple mentality. Also, don't let people dress up for church, but rather be modest (James).
Also know, that the New Testament church wasn't restored in the "glory days" of the CoC when churches were segregated during the Jim Crow era and when our colleges weren't desegregated until the 1960's. Also, any CoC congregation that doesn't teach the doctrines of grace or the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is apostate and going straight to Hell.
OR....realize that there has never been a perfect church because churches are made of people. It's our perfect SAVIOR who gives us hope!
I pray you have a blessed day.
Romans 16:16 the churches of Christ greet you.
I love listening to these. One thing I do think that you need to add is “as we understand it”.. because if there was a Church of Christ more liberal than you, you would say they weren’t a true church of Christ.. also, on one hand, you say it’s not about the name on the building, but on the other hand, it’s all about the name on the building, AS LONG AS they practice church the way we understand that they should.. “Church of God” is actually used in the NT much more than Church of Christ.. yet you would say members of the church of God are going to hell.. it’s all very confusing.. and it’s all because you think that they don’t conduct worship the way you think they should.. because let’s be honest- NOBODY worships the same exact way as the few things recorded above how the first century church worshipped.. example-
Why is so much emphasis placed on instrumental music, all because “we don’t see examples of that in the NT” - yet we don’t see any examples of the church buying or building an actual building.. they met inside peoples’ homes.. nobody in the coc sells all their belongings and pools their money together.. there are no examples of Wednesday night services, VBS, Bible class before “worship”.. we pick and choose what we’re going to make a cornerstone issue and what was just cultural.. I have no problem with anyone who wants to sing a capella- but to say “we have it right and the rest has it wrong because we sing a capella and they don’t” - that’s hypocrisy- because NOBODY does exactly what the NT church did
@@Quinn-xw5eg I don’t know, but I’ll tell you one thing.. my church has never had to do a 10 part series on “why we aren’t a cult” like GBN did 😂🤣
Q. "Are you a member of the Church of God?" A. "No, I am a member of the Church of Christ". How you answer that question determines whether you are a member of a denomination or not.
@@Quinn-xw5eg man it’s sad. My wife grew up the same way
@@donwhitt9899 that doesn’t make any sense. 1 - Christ didn’t establish a “denomination” - correct - He established a called out people, which is the definition of the Greek word for church.. He also didn’t establish a building- yet you meet in those.. it’s a giant contradiction where people pick and choose and use that to try to reassure themselves that THEY are the ones who got it right..
2. If someone says “are you a member of the church of God” and your answer is no, then you do not belong to the church that Paul wrote about in his letters to each church
@@daviddurr7218
You mean that you have a church; you shed your blood for a church?
It would be great if they would distinguish about Christians who attend churches by other names such as church of God, Christian church, followers of the Way. All are biblical names for genuine Christians. They’ve corn holed one name, which goes beyond the scriptures. People who’ve obeyed the gospel are the church that belongs to Christ. By claiming exclusivity that isn’t claimed in scripture, it’s a division that isn’t in the Bible. The grace of God is bigger than they allude.
Question- why do they sing hymns written by people who belonged to churches by other names?
Look up hymn writers and you’ll see the point
It’s not about genuineness.
It’s about following Gods word.
Acts 17:30 - God doesn’t care about ignorance anymore but causes ALL men to repent.
No excuse anymore.
Amen....Let there be no divisions among you!
Ha there are division in the coc
Sadly there are division and it's not in the denomnation world it's in the church of Christ
Would my narcisstic and chauvinistic father be saved
I'm pretty sure all true born again Christians know what the actual Church of Christ is, it is those that obey the true gospel worldwide, but I would believe the question was more direct to you guys calling yourselves the Church of Christ on the outside billboards of all your buildings, so true godly men would have made the answer yes or no from the beginning instead of a 1/2 an hour of beating around the bush, I attended one of your churches Christ for about six months until the lead minister told me straight up that anybody outside of your church of Christ congregation is not saved, so I left knowing that I was born again before I got there, and was being told unless I confess Christ and be baptized in the Church of Christ congregation that I was not truly saved and I was under a false gospel before, just remember one thing before you start spouting damnable heresies that we overcame Satan by the blood of the lamb and the words of our personal testimony and nobody can take that away from us unless we give it up. But I will say this, I do admire a lot of your doctrinal stances because it's a whole lot better there than most of the churches I've been to especially the ones poisoned by calvinistic doctrine.
How do we receive the Blood of the Lamb? according to you you get it by faith which is not Biblical, but participating with Jesus's death in Baptism is, (which is when you receive. the Blood of the Lamb)
Greetings, the discussion is so lovely that I'll love to share with my contact on my RUclips channel if granted approval.
Gospel broadcasting network. Is water baptism essential for salvation, does baptism remit sins.
Do you believe the Trinity.
Yes
Mark 16:16
@@KeithWheeler-ey1pw The Biblical Greek emphasis for "Saved", in Mk 16: 16, is on the "Believing" NOT on baptism.
And Jesus went on to prove it when He said he that doesn't balieve shall be damned.
Please note what Jesus didn't say,
He didn't say, Those who aren't baptised shall be damned.
It's unsaved, false religions that believe water baptism is needed fo salvation.
Saved people know that water baptism isn't needed for salvation, because we were saved way before we were baptised in water. As was Paul, the Gentiles, the disciples in Acts 19. And other New Testament people.
I was raised in the church of Christ and attended Oklahoma Christian College (university) for 2 years. I was lied to constantly
What did they say to you
What lies were you told?
Probably because, like catholics, the church of Christ interprets the Bible wrong.
VBS, where is this in the Bible? Our local church of Christ has VBS themes like Wonka and Dr. Suess. The worship leader dresses like these characters. At an Assembly of God I attended for years we just taught our kids Bible stories.
the vbs is only to teach children the Bible and that solely, it can include themes to add relevance to the children’s ages, this argument you made isn’t a valid argument because the Bible says teach all men
I attend a South African church of christ
Even though the name of the church has Christ it does not mean that the head of church is Jesus. All the church established during the apostolic period do not have Christ in its name.
Show proof ..
@@jarvisprice1992 please read the new testament and tell me which churches that was built in jerusalem and by paul was named with christ? The name church of christ today is named to show the restoration of the apostolic church in accordance to acts chapter 2 according to them, but very wrong in there practice.
In fact, anyone who conforms directly with the New Testament knows God. It was designed by God before the universe was built that after the ascension of Christ, that man would be brought to God by being receptive to the moving of the Holy Spirit. That's how regeneration occurs. Not by labels but being born by God's Spirit.
What did they say that wasn’t true? Give examples .
Yes there is only one church and it belongs to Christ and every theologian know it as the invisible universal church but you equate and trick people by equating your group to that church, it's a con job
How do i become part of the church of Christ??
Hear the Word - Romans 10:17
Believe the Word - Mark 16:16
Repent - Luke 13:3
Confess Christ to be the Son of God - Matthew 10:32
Be baptized for the remission of your sins. Acts 2:38 - Acts 22:16
Find a church of Christ near you.
@@jarvisprice1992 thanjs dude. I have done all that but I attend a baptist.
@@respectingthewordpodcast Have you been baptized by a baptist? If so you need to be baptized again by a member of the Lord’s body. The church of Christ. The body of Christ. Under the right teaching.
Paul rebaptized 12 men who were baptized with the baptism of John the Baptist because they never heard the Gospel of Christ.. so once Paul spoke about Jesus they were baptized again
Into the body, the bride, the church of Christ..
God will add you to the church.
The one church, Christ built.
Acts 2:47
@@jarvisprice1992 I was baptized in a coc when I was 18.
@@respectingthewordpodcast Welcome to the Body of Christ. Nice to meet you. We sometimes drift away.. into places that God does not have any reason of being there, sinful places. Sinful situations.. but He always has soldiers out there fighting to help others keep the faith. The church.
Look online for the church of Christ in your area. If there is no congregation, stay home, study. God will make a way. I know He will. Stay home. Study. It’s better to be alone with God, then with a denomination that knows not God, until God finds you a location, where His children worship Him, in spirit and in truth.
The argument presented when bringing up Noah’s Ark, and how it had to be made of Gopher wood, doesn’t account for the main purpose of the flood, which had to do with the overwhelming majority of the people having wicked hearts. All of Genesis 6 explains the reason why God sent the flood in the first place. To use this argument of specifics regarding the type of wood God commanded Noah to use, in order to somehow compare the use of specifics to the church of Christ way, (in comparison to other churches) is completely out of context, and out of touch with the Lord’s heart. The people due to their wickedness broke His heart. He was sorry He ever made them. And only Noah found favor with the Lord.
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Alaxander Campbell and Barton stone is the founder of your denomination.. they would be so proud of you. I’m a member of the lords church.
He is the head or a part of the church. The term church of Christ is actually congregation of Chrust or people in relation to Christ.
The earthly organization of coC is a denomination, which means taking on a name in association with others of that name.
The real church has no name and those in it are those baptized into Christ. Salvation inst in the church, but Christ.
The kingdom of God is within you
Where is that church which Jesus started in Ad 33? Let the church of Christ denomination tell us. They will probably claim it's them or somehow insinuate it's them
Romans 16:16
Ephesians 1:22-23
Thanks for the interpretation of the church of Christ ❤.🙌
Amen Brothers 🙏
Es que en la icoc lamentablemente asi enseñaban que era la unica iglesia de Cristo verdadera y wue por eso se llamaban así, y que en otra no habia salvación, que debian ser bautizados solo en su grupo.Fue muy cruel todo ese maltrato a los creyentes, era una manipulación terrible, tanto que te volvian a bautizar si eras de otra denominación, y las preguntas que te hacian era de tal manera para inducirte a decir que no eras un verdadero cristiano y ahi ellos intervenian para decirte que debias volver s bautizarte.
This video is so misleading. church of God is another name given. In addition prior to Stone and Campbell -- Presbyters, supposedly the church of "Christ" was null in void. Which isn't the case at all. "God's church(s)" has been thriving since his death burial and resurrection. Church of Christ members are as sinful and in need of Gods grace regardless of which congregation one attends. That sect(which I'm extremely familiar with) will even "eat it's own." In Texas there was a huge split between an acapella side vs musical instrument side. Thousands of members split. Now in the blink of an eye, the musical instrument side are going to hell. It's crazy when one truly analyses the thinking process of the CoC sect. They LOVE sending people to hell. Well, each will give an account just like everyone else. And I doubt the arrogance and pride of being the "only" true believers is going to win out. Very misleading video.
Im member Church of CHRIST in the Philippines
I Ike what e said about the verbal asking for salvation. I'm going to call it the Joel Osteen salvation technique. Ad other negative churches. They want you to raise your hand Saya prayer then they say I believe you are now a child of God.
Why cant these guys understand the body is all that trust that Jesus is there savior.
Say yes question to the title of your program: (l PETER 4:17-18)
... and "live faithfully" does not include having any sort of fellowship with those who would be "change agents" within the church, including inviting them to speak a lectureships and/or participating at lectureships or programs in which they are presenters or speakers. I am speaking of those who endorse instrumental music, even though they may not personally employ it, and those who give a pass to female preachers, deacons, or elders. Learn from history. Brother McGarvey tried as did others. He later considered it a mistake. I had great aunts who lived long lives. They remembered the church of Christ changing the locks between services because the non-instrumental crowd was growing. A few weeks later, they changed the name to Christian Church. What was left of the church of Christ had to meet in the basement of the courthouse - and the building was awarded by the courts to the instrumental group. And it hasn't grown a whit since that fall day in about 1915. Stay away from them!
So if the Church of Christ is the body of believers that belong to Christ, are believers who trust and follow Him who are a members of a Baptist congregation a part of His church or not?
Their are believers in every church that are saved, but these guys will tell you if you do not attend church in their building you will go to hell.
Baptist is manmade
Jesus said that if two or three are gathered in his name there he is in their midst so the basic requirement for being a church is to gather in his name not a name, repent other God will judge you because James said those of us who teach will be sternly judged, stop teaching Campbell s errors, if you have nothing to preach just read the scriptures, they will preach themselves
Jesus said believe and be baptized. Mark 16:16
Paul said the CHURCHES OF CHRIST salute you. Romans 16:16
Paul said the church is the body and the body is the church. Ephesians 1:22-23
Body of Christ
Church of Christ.
Simple.
@@jarvisprice1992 yes but we must harmonize the scriptures, the story of Cornelius shows that God c cleansed him before baptised with water that's why the Jews were shocked otherwise they wouldn't have been shocked if being filled by the holy spirit can happen to a dirty unsaved vessel, you blasphem against the holy spirit when you refuse this fact, and God will judge those church of Christ people who blasphem and practices racism by claiming only them will go to heaven becuase they are the only church
The Question: Will only the members of the Church of Christ go to heaven. Simple question. There are only two answers. Yes and No. It shouldn't take 28 minutes to answer it.
My thoughts exactly
@@ericschmit5911 only the faithful members of the church of Christ are going to go to heaven if you look at Matthew 13 it says the Kingdom of heaven is like a net it gathers in both good and bad
@@debbymiller8828That kind of question deserves explanation in order to be understood by others
The answer is, only the ones who keep His commandments
@@KeithWheeler-ey1pw Unfortunately no man can keep God's commandments. That is why Christ died on the cross. For our sins because we cannot keep the Commandments.
People's sure get uptight when they hear the one Gospel just like they did in Jesus earth walk
Ive got a Question no Christian will answer. So if only Christians go to heaven. That means anyone who has never heard of Christianity is going to hell correct? Does that sound like something a good god would do.
Acts 17:30
Stop with the hypothetical and worry about YOURSELF.
Those who have died are no longer able to get it right, therefore focus on you.
There was a man in his 70s .. who finally decided to give his life to Jesus..
On the day he decided to be baptized for the remission of his sins… as he was walking up the staircase into the church building, he collapsed and died.
Notice I said FINALLY decided .
Who are YOU and I to tell God He is wrong for not allowing that man who was 70 to be saved?
Who’s fault is that?
You think God is playing?
You go 70 years NOT looking for God.. not knowing your last day on earth… then die without God..
Yes, I do believe God gives us enough time to decide what we will consider and it’s not YOUR job to speak on God or anyone else.
Focus on you
@@jarvisprice1992 i was raised christian and know the history of it. Your under the impression that i think god is a bad. On the contrary, i believe my god is good. Im a god follower. I think all these religions have it wrong in some way. Especially the part where you have to be a certain religion to go to heaven. They pretty much all are like that. I believe in the 10 comandments and follow them. And for the record, if you want to be "christ like". You shouldnt be like, focus on yourself. A good person wants to help others, especially in time of need. I would gladly give my life if it meant saving others.
@@jarvisprice1992 also i never said god was wrong, people and their lies are wrong.
@@frankfranz4428 So being Christ like is speaking truth in love.
1 Peter 4:15
“But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.”
Worry about your self in the sense of your soul. Trying to save others by the Gospel being preached is the command!
Now, you must not be a Christian!
Christ said He would build a church.
Not a building ..
Paul said NOT to forsake the assembly of gathering together as some do.
So Christ built a people and Paul said not to forsake gathering with these people, the church.
You said something about having to be in a certain religion to go to heaven.
What does religion mean?
It means belief.
You cannot be a Christian, speaking that way. You do not have Truth.
You’re LITERALLY saying, ANY belief will get you to heaven..
How is THAT POSSIBLE, when GOD gave one belief … for ALL to believe.
Jude 1:3
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”
They have common salvation. Same order of salvation… how? The FAITH ONCE DELIVERED…
Not many faiths.
One Faith.
One religion.
One belief..
God created heaven and you’re telling me, He doesn’t care about HIS belief?
John 3:16 to believe in Jesus.
Mark 16:16 to believe and be baptized.
Luke 13:3 to repent or perish.
Matthew 10:32 to confess Christ as the Son of God.
Acts 2:38 Be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit..
That’s the plan of salvation..
All that other mess you’re speaking is mess and not Scripture..
Keep His commandments
John 14:15
Is that an option??
Playing a game of semantics with the Word in order to prove one's perspective will lead you astray every time - just like what was done in this instance.
Jesus gives us the answer at Matthew 7 v21, all the comments on here count for nothing.
CHRIST BLOOD SAVES anywhere
How does one contact the blood of Christ? Romans 6:3-5. What must one do when Jesus is preached? Read Acts 8:35-39. Jesus said "Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it; Matthew 7:14. Remember there is ONE body (Ephesians 4:4) and that body is the church (Colossians1:18). The church began on
the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:36-47). Jesus is the Head of the ONE body (Colossians1:18) and He is the Savior
of the ONE body (Ephesians 5:23-25),the church that He bought with His blood (Acts 20:28).
@@lindahutchens8612 I know this stuff Christ paid the price I've accepted Christ I have confessed publicly and was baptized how many times do I have to tell everyone this this is what is discouraging me comments like this I know all these things but all everyone on this channel attacks me I attacked them back but I've prayed for them and me the comments need to stop because it's causing me trouble in my spiritual life so everyone drop your comments to me there not helping your making things worse so stop
@@harolddavis1493 I'm sorry if I am making things worse for you; that surely was not my intention.
@@lindahutchens8612 it's not you it's everyone else not all of them certain ones the reason why I got so mad at Caleb Robertson is over a question I asked him that was important he didn't answer my questions he did respond rudeley to me and I asked for him to apologize he could have done it the way a preacher is supposed to do but he didn't and that told me everything I needed to know about the Robertson s I don't listen to them I have other preacher's I listen to who truly know more than Caleb Robertson and jonney Robertson combined so I study my Bible plus I have other books of the Bible that were taken out by the translatier of the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts
@@harolddavis1493 I'm glad your not upset with me because I truly care about you. Please continue checking everything out that you hear from others with the word of God to see if it is in fact truth.
The saved are found assembling with Christians in many different denominations, even the Church of Christ denomination. Unfortunately, the group today that calls themselves the Church of Christ, has been misguided for decades in believing that their interpretation of scripture is infallible and superior to all others. They are not the only people who will be in heaven, in spite of their prideful assertions.
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People continue to use the Bible translation as a way to manipulate God’s word as if he doesn’t have the power to protect his word?! He makes this promise in the last chapter of revelation
”And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person’s share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.“
Revelation 22:18-19 NLT
The church at Pentecost was a Jewish church the "little flock" not a Christian church. Church has different definitions depending on context. The church today, the body of Christ began with Paul not at Pentecost. Rightly dividing Israel's gospel from Paul's gospel is important!
Why would you want to be a part of a community where the leaders teach you(wrongly) that you don't have to do what Jesus and the apostles tell you to do? Repent-yes! Be baptized- No ,they say! Who are you going to trust?
From James the brother of Jesus.
James 1
26 If any think they are religious and do not bridle their tongues but deceive their hearts, their religion is worthless. 27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
Hey, the only way of Salvation is not a Religion it is “Having a Relationship with JESUS CHRIST”, He was the One Who’s Blood 🩸 was shed to wash away our sin in order to be saved. Religion will lead you to hell. JESUS CHRIST DID NOT DIE TO HAVE RELIGION, HE DIED TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
How does one become a child of God and please use scripture.
How, according to Scripture, does one have a relationship with Jesus Christ? In Acts 2:38, the Holy Spirit tells us. These are not man's words but Gods! The Holy Spirit speaking through Apostle Peter, says, "Repent & be baptized...."
Look at Matthew 13:47,48 some become Christians and become bad instead of going to heaven
Yes, you do
“Please take a Bible and study with us.” Okay. I’m looking for anywhere in the Bible where it talks about people “going to Heaven.” I’m not finding it… Resurrected bodies, New Earth, etc. Finding those. But leaving and going somewhere else, namely “Heaven”? Not so much. People hear about “going to Heaven” and they tend to interpret this in a Gnostic fashion. Our bodies are bad; when we die we escape and go to a better place. This is not biblical. Our hope is not leaving for Heaven; but for Heaven to come to Earth (just as Jesus told us to pray). Our hope is not to escape our body, but for our “lowly bodies to be made alive by the Spirit”.
We must be biblical in our language. I’m not even a Protestant; I reject Sola Scriptura. But I’m constantly amazed how people who say “I only follow the Bible” will use such unbiblical language like “Who will go to Heaven? What will Heaven be like?”
2nd cor 5:8. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Psalm 115:3 says God is in heaven. So when we die we will be in heaven.
Conflating the Ark with the church is wrong. The church is not a place...its a people spiritually bound to Jesus.