The group seemed quite happy for you two to be there; I tagged along the back of a peloton through Pocklington to Melbourne a few weeks ago when out on my mountain bike. It was a fabulous experience and no one complained. Keep safe
They were, Nic. Most of them didn’t know we were there but those that did were signalling the potholes. Beautiful part of the world you live in. Enjoy summer 😎
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy, I was impressed with the roads and tracks that you and Wendy were on, lovely. A friend of mine, who has recently completed his 300,000th bike mile, has had knee replacements and recovered very well. I'll ask him if he has any advice for your recovery after your operation in January. Good luck
@@SteveMarshall-j8w it was you who pointed out the potholes, Steve, which also signalled we were welcome. To be perfectly honest, we didn’t expect to hang on so long 😀
I think it depends on the group, and how you "tag along". If you are going at a similar speed, you have little choice - if you overtake the group, they likely will soon catch up with you, and changing your route makes no sense. I think what you did - hang out at the back of the group - makes sense and conforms with normal road riding courtesy. Some would say you should engage with the group's ride pattern and take your turn pulling at the front, but that's a big no-no. They will know each other and have an established pattern how to rotate, and newcomers could potentially interfere with that - and if those newcomers are unfamiliar with group riding etiquette, it could even be a danger to the group. I can't imagine any reasonable group of road riders objecting to two strangers hanging out at the back of the group.
You were right to ride along with group. You will soon feel the vibe if you're not welcome. As cyclists we have an obligation to encourage the 'brotherhood'. I've met lone riders in the past, some it's obvious, prefer the solitude (I get that) so I make a polite excuse and leave them to it, others just love to chat. If you stumble across a 'training' group, get stuck in and make up the numbers. But ALWAYS, when encountering a rider on the roadside, stop to enquire as to their 'wellbeing/mechanics' before moving off. Another great video Roy - thanks.
Don’t hold your breath 😀 Yes, I purchased it on Michael’s recommendation. Not ideal for summer as it does feel uncomfortable on the neck, but good for winter.
Hi Roy & Wendy. Great video of an enjoyable ride whilst the weather was decent. Thanks for the tip about 'Crusty Cob' in Tuxford, I previously use 'Chillipetals' round the corner but last time (August '24) they were closed when I cycled through Tuxford. I often pass through Laxton, another interesting place to visit is the Holocaust centre about 2mile along the road to Boughton/Ollerton. Your route from Tuxford over Fledborough Viaduct is an 'annual' ride for me Mansfield to Lincoln and back (approx 62 miles). Previously gone via Laxton but main road via Kirton is shorter with fewer hiills
I am a regular all weather cyclist and i tagged onto a trio of fully equipped "proper" cyclists , I am a bit of a ramshackle hybrid riding, unclipped sort of cyclist. It was a lovely warm day , one of the trio clocked me and announced to the others "you can tell the sun's out" ! Very rude! I drifted into the path of another group one day I said "sorry, I was daydreaming" "probably of pies " one of them said , very, very rude! So as a rule , I stay clear of groups.
@RideWithRoy loved your video by the way , I am up in Lancashire and it is very hilly round here, nice to see some flat landing. I subscribe to MrDaz and his videos have some epic climbing in them. I sit somewhere in the middle, slow but I can tackle most climbs.
I encountered the same polite but firm road-repair chaps a couple of weeks ago near South Scarle. I can confirm from a more recent ride that the surface is now super-smooth, incongruously so!
I think its fine! as long as you are safe and they know you are there, then why not? I've done it many times, sometimes nobody talks to you in which case I just would ride by (since I caught them up!), but mostly people say hello.
I have this on my route to do this year 25 I popped into the Gaint shop in doddington hall spoke to a member of the group you tagged onto with the Lincoln wheelers He sends his best wishes for ur recovery I did spot a very nice gaint revolt Ali gravel bike in the sale very nice 👍 and not a bad price Just watched your op update on ur knees Good luck 🤞 hope to see you in may on the king johns way ride I’m in north Hykeham and still and looking for my 100
As a solo cyclist , if i come across a group ride or get passed by a group , i often jump on the back and ride along for a little while , but do ask if it ok and never yet been told not too. Think it just politeness to ask, and those at the back seem to be interested in your journey etc.
@@paulclark9968 Funny thing is, I watched a vid once about the 1 percenters motorbike gangs, if your convey want to overtake theirs, you gotta get permission from the ride ‘ leader’ first. Otherwise - TROUBEL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i have no idea on etiquette, but imo i think your actions were totally ok. as for the ride in general. wholesome im just starting down the road-cycling trip ,i have a way to go yet
I think it's fine unless it is an official event, e.g. a race, a time trial or a sportive. On my last sportive of the year, I was literally elbowed out of the pack at 5 miles by a pair of highly completive riders. as they passed (and the rest of the bunch dropped me), I realised that they weren't actually part of the event. I had paid a lot of money to attend and trained hard, so I was more than a bit miffed that these two had behaved as they had. That said, I do often ride with Sunday teams that I catch up with, just as you did. I will always ask if it's OK if I can ride with them (on occasion they will say no if they are a disciplined chain gang for example, which I completely respect). With the pace and obviously casual nature of the group you were on the back of, and the fact you didn't try and force anyone out, I can't see any problem!
Thanks, Graham. We were only expecting to be on the back for a few minutes as we didn’t think we’d keep up, so didn’t ask.😀 There was a faster group that disappeared pretty quickly but ‘our’ group was keeping a steady pace. One rider was very helpful in pointing out potholes, so at least one was aware of us so I’m sure nobody minded.
Thank you! We now use the DJI mic 2. They are a little more complicated to use than the previous Boya mics, but have much more flexibility. The thing to bear in mind with all radio mics is that there will be a short delay before connection, so it's necessary to pause before speaking after the camera starts recording.
You are on bikes. You would be welcome in any group ride I've ever been in. And I've done a lot of group rides! :) Of course, if it was a proper training ride, it would be up to you to keep up... ;)
Although most groups I've ridden with would never say no to someone wanting to join the ride, it seems to me it's just common courtesy to ask first. Additionally, it ensures that everyone knows you're there.
Great video again Roy and Wendy. I would've tagged onto the back of a group ride like you did, we do it regularly and have always been welcomed without any issues. A couple of questions Roy: 1) I'm thinking of getting a DJI Osmo Action camera for recording rides. Could you maybe do a video on your filming setup (kit, chest harness, camera etc... And then how you edit your videos afterwards? 2) I have read that you have to "activate" your new DJI Osmo Action camera by downloading some kind of "dodgy" DJI app that is not security passed and not on Google Play or Apple Store(?) how did you get on with this? Thanks as always. Paul 😁👍
@@RidingHighWithPaul thanks, Paul. This is something I’ve been thinking of doing so you’ve given me the spark I needed. I can’t remember if I had to activate the Action 4 but if I did there was no issue. All the settings are in the camera so I never use an app. It’s a much better camera than the GoPro Hero 9 I was using. As you probably gathered I use external mics. With the GoPro I had to buy an additional media mod, which then made it difficult the change batteries. This is not the case with the Action 4 as it’s a USB C connection direct to the camera. As I now use DJI mics, I can connect wirelessly to the camera, although that only works for one mic, so only good for solo stuff. I shall be having a forced break from cycling for the first three months of January so will make a detailed video during that.
There's generally no problem tagging onto a group ride partiularly if its a club ride but as others have said it's polite to ask. The bigger issue is filming people without them being aware, not too much of a problem when all you see is their backs but when you stop and have a conversation it steps over a line.
Hi, Richard. This is the link redshiftsports.com/discount/RideWithRoy?aff=14 which is for the entire product range. if you are quick, and use the link, you may get 20% off.
I have never understood this "etiquette". Costs absolutely nothing to let someone tag along and in fact you may make new friends. I think the "etiquette" is bollocks and is born out of pseudo-elitism.
It varies between clubs and within clubs. I have to say that the Lincoln Wheelers were super friendly. But I know what you mean. I was riding a mountain bike in Spain when a group of pros on a training ride all called out a friendly hello to us. Shortly afterwards, a group of Canadian wannabes all blanked us, we assumed as we were not on road bikes 😀
Sometimes it's a safety issue. If a group is riding fast in a chain gang, you can't afford to have strangers in the mix, as they may not understand correct protocol when riding in a gang. I've seen some horrific crashes due to people joining an unfamiliar group and not pedalling smoothly, for example, causing wheel overlap and a wheel touch. The safety issue is nothing to do with politeness or any kind of snobbery, although cycling snobs certainly exist.
@@colinwellman9480 it is a huge problem, Colin, and the reason many parents’ drive their children to school. We are actively pushing for a foot/cycle bridge, which Transport England has now surveyed, but no money until at least 2030. Plenty of money for hare brained schemes though!
Don’t get me started - I can rant for hours about it. My most recent reply from our Melton District councillor was pathetic. Basically sympathetic but also apathetic!
The group seemed quite happy for you two to be there; I tagged along the back of a peloton through Pocklington to Melbourne a few weeks ago when out on my mountain bike. It was a fabulous experience and no one complained. Keep safe
They were, Nic. Most of them didn’t know we were there but those that did were signalling the potholes. Beautiful part of the world you live in. Enjoy summer 😎
@@RideWithRoy Thanks Roy, I was impressed with the roads and tracks that you and Wendy were on, lovely. A friend of mine, who has recently completed his 300,000th bike mile, has had knee replacements and recovered very well. I'll ask him if he has any advice for your recovery after your operation in January. Good luck
All the best to you both you both make some very awesome videos and very enjoyable
Thank you
Great ride Roy & Wendy - good tip about Crusty Cob
Hi guys, I remember you! I was back right in the group and you were very welcome to tag along. Hope to see you again sometime!
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@@SteveMarshall-j8w it was you who pointed out the potholes, Steve, which also signalled we were welcome. To be perfectly honest, we didn’t expect to hang on so long 😀
First time view , really enjoyed. thanks you Roy and Wendy. Sorry to see the comments about Tagging on. Just enjoy the Ride Lads.
@@philipstaff9900 thank you, Philip, we appreciate you joining us. Don’t worry about the comments, they all help to feed the algorithm 😀
I think it depends on the group, and how you "tag along". If you are going at a similar speed, you have little choice - if you overtake the group, they likely will soon catch up with you, and changing your route makes no sense.
I think what you did - hang out at the back of the group - makes sense and conforms with normal road riding courtesy. Some would say you should engage with the group's ride pattern and take your turn pulling at the front, but that's a big no-no. They will know each other and have an established pattern how to rotate, and newcomers could potentially interfere with that - and if those newcomers are unfamiliar with group riding etiquette, it could even be a danger to the group. I can't imagine any reasonable group of road riders objecting to two strangers hanging out at the back of the group.
You were right to ride along with group. You will soon feel the vibe if you're not welcome. As cyclists we have an obligation to encourage the 'brotherhood'. I've met lone riders in the past, some it's obvious, prefer the solitude (I get that) so I make a polite excuse and leave them to it, others just love to chat. If you stumble across a 'training' group, get stuck in and make up the numbers. But ALWAYS, when encountering a rider on the roadside, stop to enquire as to their 'wellbeing/mechanics' before moving off.
Another great video Roy - thanks.
@@frankholcombe2699 great advice as alway, Frank!
Roy isn’t one to miss a chat! 😂
@@wendysheehan2413 😄😄
You’ll be leading that pelleton this time next year after your bionic overhaul 😂
That neck camera holder looks familiar … Peterborough influenced!
Don’t hold your breath 😀 Yes, I purchased it on Michael’s recommendation. Not ideal for summer as it does feel uncomfortable on the neck, but good for winter.
Hi Roy & Wendy. Great video of an enjoyable ride whilst the weather was decent. Thanks for the tip about 'Crusty Cob' in Tuxford, I previously use 'Chillipetals' round the corner but last time (August '24) they were closed when I cycled through Tuxford. I often pass through Laxton, another interesting place to visit is the Holocaust centre about 2mile along the road to Boughton/Ollerton. Your route from Tuxford over Fledborough Viaduct is an 'annual' ride for me Mansfield to Lincoln and back (approx 62 miles). Previously gone via Laxton but main road via Kirton is shorter with fewer hiills
I am a regular all weather cyclist and i tagged onto a trio of fully equipped "proper" cyclists , I am a bit of a ramshackle hybrid riding, unclipped sort of cyclist. It was a lovely warm day , one of the trio clocked me and announced to the others "you can tell the sun's out" ! Very rude! I drifted into the path of another group one day I said "sorry, I was daydreaming" "probably of pies " one of them said , very, very rude! So as a rule , I stay clear of groups.
@terrydickinson3296 there’s some nasty types about. Luckily most cyclists look out for one another and the group I filmed were very friendly.
@RideWithRoy loved your video by the way , I am up in Lancashire and it is very hilly round here, nice to see some flat landing. I subscribe to MrDaz and his videos have some epic climbing in them. I sit somewhere in the middle, slow but I can tackle most climbs.
I encountered the same polite but firm road-repair chaps a couple of weeks ago near South Scarle. I can confirm from a more recent ride that the surface is now super-smooth, incongruously so!
I think its fine! as long as you are safe and they know you are there, then why not? I've done it many times, sometimes nobody talks to you in which case I just would ride by (since I caught them up!), but mostly people say hello.
I have this on my route to do this year 25
I popped into the Gaint shop in doddington hall spoke to a member of the group you tagged onto with the Lincoln wheelers
He sends his best wishes for ur recovery
I did spot a very nice gaint revolt Ali gravel bike in the sale very nice 👍 and not a bad price
Just watched your op update on ur knees
Good luck 🤞 hope to see you in may on the king johns way ride I’m in north Hykeham and still and looking for my 100
Thanks, Ted. Looking forward to seeing you in May. Good luck with your 100 - this will be the year you achieve it.
Cheers mate
Perth western australia😊😊😊
G’day, Peter, great to hear from you 🚂
As a solo cyclist , if i come across a group ride or get passed by a group , i often jump on the back and ride along for a little while , but do ask if it ok and never yet been told not too. Think it just politeness to ask, and those at the back seem to be interested in your journey etc.
@@paulclark9968 Funny thing is, I watched a vid once about the 1 percenters motorbike gangs, if your convey want to overtake theirs, you gotta get permission from the ride ‘ leader’ first. Otherwise - TROUBEL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Overtaking others is not a problem we have, Paul 😂
i have no idea on etiquette, but imo i think your actions were totally ok. as for the ride in general. wholesome
im just starting down the road-cycling trip ,i have a way to go yet
@@davewright8206 the future is bright with lots of adventures to come, Dave. Enjoy 😀
I think it's fine unless it is an official event, e.g. a race, a time trial or a sportive. On my last sportive of the year, I was literally elbowed out of the pack at 5 miles by a pair of highly completive riders. as they passed (and the rest of the bunch dropped me), I realised that they weren't actually part of the event. I had paid a lot of money to attend and trained hard, so I was more than a bit miffed that these two had behaved as they had.
That said, I do often ride with Sunday teams that I catch up with, just as you did. I will always ask if it's OK if I can ride with them (on occasion they will say no if they are a disciplined chain gang for example, which I completely respect).
With the pace and obviously casual nature of the group you were on the back of, and the fact you didn't try and force anyone out, I can't see any problem!
Thanks, Graham. We were only expecting to be on the back for a few minutes as we didn’t think we’d keep up, so didn’t ask.😀 There was a faster group that disappeared pretty quickly but ‘our’ group was keeping a steady pace. One rider was very helpful in pointing out potholes, so at least one was aware of us so I’m sure nobody minded.
Hi Roy and Wendy . Really enjoy your videos. Just wondering which microphone you use for recording? Thanks
Thank you! We now use the DJI mic 2. They are a little more complicated to use than the previous Boya mics, but have much more flexibility. The thing to bear in mind with all radio mics is that there will be a short delay before connection, so it's necessary to pause before speaking after the camera starts recording.
Thanks a lot! Hope you recover well from your op and can get back on the bike soon 😊
You are on bikes. You would be welcome in any group ride I've ever been in. And I've done a lot of group rides! :)
Of course, if it was a proper training ride, it would be up to you to keep up... ;)
@@pompeymonkey3271 and there’d be no chance of us keeping up 😀
@@RideWithRoy Nor me, nowadays lol! Safe riding :)
Although most groups I've ridden with would never say no to someone wanting to join the ride, it seems to me it's just common courtesy to ask first. Additionally, it ensures that everyone knows you're there.
Great video again Roy and Wendy. I would've tagged onto the back of a group ride like you did, we do it regularly and have always been welcomed without any issues. A couple of questions Roy: 1) I'm thinking of getting a DJI Osmo Action camera for recording rides. Could you maybe do a video on your filming setup (kit, chest harness, camera etc... And then how you edit your videos afterwards? 2) I have read that you have to "activate" your new DJI Osmo Action camera by downloading some kind of "dodgy" DJI app that is not security passed and not on Google Play or Apple Store(?) how did you get on with this? Thanks as always. Paul 😁👍
@@RidingHighWithPaul thanks, Paul. This is something I’ve been thinking of doing so you’ve given me the spark I needed. I can’t remember if I had to activate the Action 4 but if I did there was no issue. All the settings are in the camera so I never use an app. It’s a much better camera than the GoPro Hero 9 I was using. As you probably gathered I use external mics. With the GoPro I had to buy an additional media mod, which then made it difficult the change batteries. This is not the case with the Action 4 as it’s a USB C connection direct to the camera. As I now use DJI mics, I can connect wirelessly to the camera, although that only works for one mic, so only good for solo stuff. I shall be having a forced break from cycling for the first three months of January so will make a detailed video during that.
Excellent. Thanks as always for the info Roy. Look forward to your future videos. Have a good Christmas. Cheers, Paul
@RidingHighCycling and you!
Lumo - London to Edinburgh - They are an open access operator similar to Grand Central
@@WestYorkshireCycling thanks, but no bikes allowed, so couldn’t have used them on our Edinburgh trip.
Instead of a bridge maybe an underpass would be a good idea
Scarrington village has a large pile of horse shoes at the side of them is a pinfold
@@RBean47 thanks, yes, been there many times. The one at Laxton surprised us with its size.
There's generally no problem tagging onto a group ride partiularly if its a club ride but as others have said it's polite to ask. The bigger issue is filming people without them being aware, not too much of a problem when all you see is their backs but when you stop and have a conversation it steps over a line.
@@richjones2767 good points. If I’m filming a conversation with someone I’ll always check if they are happy to be featured.
Polite to ask!😂🤣
I think it is OK to tag on a group or rider if you announce your presence & ask if it is OK.
I think if your going to tag on it's good etiquette just to say "do you mind?"
Hi,I can't find the discount for the Redshift pedals?.
Hi, Richard. This is the link redshiftsports.com/discount/RideWithRoy?aff=14 which is for the entire product range. if you are quick, and use the link, you may get 20% off.
Thank you.
I have never understood this "etiquette". Costs absolutely nothing to let someone tag along and in fact you may make new friends. I think the "etiquette" is bollocks and is born out of pseudo-elitism.
@@Michael-hm8cs
There appears to be a lot of snobbery in cycling these days.
It varies between clubs and within clubs. I have to say that the Lincoln Wheelers were super friendly. But I know what you mean. I was riding a mountain bike in Spain when a group of pros on a training ride all called out a friendly hello to us. Shortly afterwards, a group of Canadian wannabes all blanked us, we assumed as we were not on road bikes 😀
@@RideWithRoy Yep, I have experienced both in various clubs. Also from person to person.
Sometimes it's a safety issue. If a group is riding fast in a chain gang, you can't afford to have strangers in the mix, as they may not understand correct protocol when riding in a gang. I've seen some horrific crashes due to people joining an unfamiliar group and not pedalling smoothly, for example, causing wheel overlap and a wheel touch. The safety issue is nothing to do with politeness or any kind of snobbery, although cycling snobs certainly exist.
@@davidrowe8747
Thank you for the explanation 👍
That road looked terrifying; How can anyone cross it and not get knocked down.
@@colinwellman9480 it is a huge problem, Colin, and the reason many parents’ drive their children to school. We are actively pushing for a foot/cycle bridge, which Transport England has now surveyed, but no money until at least 2030. Plenty of money for hare brained schemes though!
Don’t get me started - I can rant for hours about it. My most recent reply from our Melton District councillor was pathetic. Basically sympathetic but also apathetic!