Plane Flies Too Close
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2023
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Watertanker plane dropping fire retardant on wildfire
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0:39 that's THREE airliners fling in close stacked formation.
Scary/Impressive
Yeah, I was kind of wondering how they kept track of each other well enough, you could only see the middle airplane occasionally.
I don't get why many countries use commercial aircraft for formation flybys during special occasions? Nothing against commercial aircraft...
@@theodoreolson8529Because they want to display the flag carrier airline during special national days.
@@theodoreolson8529 Outside the US most national carriers are at least partially government owned and heavily subsidized by the local taxpayers. They're also a point of pride for the country.
just wondering how they "manage" the TCAS alert while their vertical separation is less than 1000 feet...
I never get tired of these Paro landings. They're impressive from the ground, but terrifying from the cockpit.
Was about to say... Very little time and space between the turn and touchdown
But also probably exhilarating! :)
the "bowling-alley" runway...
I did the same approach with a Falcon aircraft 😅 ! Exciting !
respect to the fire fighting crew, as we've seen before it can be dangerous, plus that smoke limiting the view of the terrain
The planes are not too close. They're in formation.
Hi Marten. Yes, the title had me worried, but it was formation flying.
You are so observant.
Too closes is when the crash! Good video though!
This channel is getting clickbaity I have noticed.. likely won’t be around much longer.. great content, but i have no respect for clickbaiting people.. stretching it a little is one thing, but a lie is just annoying. This channel knows about aviation, so there no need to “oops didn’t know that” videos over and over. It’s to get comments flowing, “rage bait” in another words.. there are plenty of channels that don’t do this, so I don’t mind leaving over the simple fact they’re lying to get algorithm spikes.
Yep! The poster routinely puts clickbaity titles on every clip, when the content is good enough that deception is not needed. @@AverageReviewsYT
Those aerial firefighters just impress the hell out of me every time. Love it.
I agree with some other commenters. We like your content (though it hasn’t been stellar like in the past, seeing Aerosucre basically screw up all the time and such..) but yea we like you we just don’t like being clickbaited. I understand the algorithm is finicky but please do better if you can. Thank you Mr. 3 Minutes
Thanks for using our footage again! It’s an honor to see it on your channel! We have a new video featuring a 767 Porpoising at KMIA if you’d like to use it!
Cheers
No no no, the title is pure clickbaiting.
You’re new here?
These are great! I have seen so many... (2023)... thanks again!! :)
Love these MD-87 sequences... You can see the lead spotter plane set the smoke for the MD-87 to drop the retardant spot on the fire line... So well timed.
My old eyes didn't see that, thanks for pointing it out. I was concentrating on the big plane diving into smoke and fire, couldn't see anything else.
Another fantastic video! The stacked formation flying, the tight turn from the Drukair, heroic firefighters tackling blazes by air....all that and 6 extra seconds of aviation too! :D
Flying too close together? So thats why they always have frosted windows in the loos on a plane 😂😂
This channel NEVER disappoints. Amazing vids!!
Except for the times that the video doesn't match the title, which is about 90% of the time
1:25 That wasn't a late turn. Only a few pilots are qualified to land at Paro Airport in Bhutan because the approach is so hazardous.
True. I believe the the "late" was just referring to it being later than a typical landing, not that it was later than it should have been for this one.
I have landed in that airport. while on approach, while the aircraft is flying within the valley and banking within it, i could see the mountain slopes above me! Makes us feel puny!
That also wasn't a real plane.
@@Shadow__133i thought it looked strange, i will watch again
@@StoneysWorkshop Yeah, not the first time this happens here. Probably the 4-5th a MSFS shot makes it through.
Best "3 Minutes" I've seen yet - nicely done 👍
I feel honoured, a free 7 seconds 😮
Holy cr*p.. Great stuff. Keep 'em coming!
That'd be a hilarious ATC call...
"Saud 01 with you 3 ship 777"
"I'm sorry what?"
Amazing selections of video. Nice !
This channel really should be called 'Too Minutes of Aviation.'
Is that supposed to be the number TWO?
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Every other video has 'too' in the title and it is nearly always misleading. Like this one, planes flying in formation aren't flying 'too close.'
@@RUBBER_BULLET gotcha
I watched dozens of air drops performed by various firefighting aircraft including a DC-10 and 727 on the northern California "Highway" fire this past week.
Can someon tell me why the Gear is down during the firefighting?
Because the earth is on fire?🌎🔥🏜🌡🤷🏽♂️
@stephanbuschmann7028 Just a guess...
Maybe to create enough drag so as to not miss the target?🤷🏽♂️
@@stephanbuschmann7028 It creates a bit more drag to slow the airtanker down during the drop. Higher airspeed during the drop may cause the retardant to spread out more than desired for the preferred effect on the fire.
@@stephanbuschmann7028on another channel, Blancolirio they speculated that fire retardant might affect the landing gear doors and mechanism? Or might be ingested into the engines without the gear down ? He wasn't sure; but knew that manufacturer/engineers only certified it to do drops with the gear down.
That MD-87 was something
Thanks for the videos here !
I love this Saudia retro livery.
Instant subscribe, I love this videos. I wish they were 10 minutes of aviation 😜😜
Great stuff, thank you!
Great video!😸
1:13 Thrust reverser not stuck open, they can be deployed to control speed and save brakes
On an A380 only engines #2 & #3 have reverse thrusters. What were seeing here is not engine #1 retracted and engine #2 stuck open but rather the thrusters on #2 and #3 just haven't been retracted yet.
hope u get to 400k soon!
Thanks to a previous commenter on another video, who pointed this out...I noticed the lead spotter plane, in the fire fighting clip, shoot a puff of smoke to signal to the MD87 where to drop his load. Thanks to you whoever you are 😃👍
I know the name of your channel says "3 minutes..." But I could easily watch for a longer time. Say 5 - 10 minutes? Either way, keep up the good work. 😊❤🎉
Remember, kids: Only Spellcheck can prevent forrest fires
"Only You Can Prevent Forrest Tucker!"
Thank you for the extra 7 seconds!
Close, but definitely not too close, as long as both of them survived.
Not a late turn 1:24 unless an earlier turn descending into that hill blocking final is preferable. That's Bhutan, and it was a text book A+ approach
Formation flying has changed somewhat from when I was trained. Back in the day, it used to be Fixed Wing had the following aircraft fly behind and just below the lead, so as to see them at all times, and behind and above the lead if Rotary Wing, to keep your big whizzer from hitting his big whizzer. Most helicopters also have pretty good downward visibility ahead, unlike passenger jets. Those fellers following the other aircraft seem quite determined to exploit their obvious blind spot below them. Stray out of formation by flying a little too fast, and the lead disappears below them. After that it's potentially Braille Formation Flying, all done by touch!
That's not a 'late' turn, it's a standard approach for that runway.
It’s cool that a plane as enormous as the a380 only needs 2 thrust reversers.
The planes are close as they are flying in formation. The conversations in the cockpit, other other pilots in the formation and air traffic controllers as they are confirming distance coordination with weather conditions to make changes if required to maintain a safe distance. Formation flying is a highly skilled procedure with many components that pilots are taught in flight school.
Pilots are not taught formation flying in flight school. Only military pilots are taught this.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 not true! When I studied flying and I learned in a Cessna 172 Skyhawk, I learn flying in formation in flight school and our flight club often flew together in formations to club functions.
@@gregorydejong3130 maybe your flying club did formation flying and taught you how, but regular flight schools do not teach this. It’s not part of any required training standards. It’s been a while, but I was a CFI at the beginning of my career.
1:35 - That Paro landing looks almost like MSFS 2020. Maybe the game's graphics is so good or real cameras gone bad.
2:10 - That pilot is having the time of his life.. weeeeee......
I want to take a moment to thank all firefighting pilots. It's dangerous work. Your efforts are appreciaated.
I'd paddle a rowboat across the ocean before I'd fly with a saudi pilot.
The click bait titles are super annoying. “Plane flies too close” and then it states that they are flying in formation.
Love the content though!!
Very cool
Corrected title: Plane Flies Pretty Close
Nice!
The tanker dropping on the fire, no just no says every fiber of my being. Hey, there is smoke and fire, let's dive into it! Such skill and nerve.
There is no Aerobraking on 757…pilot was trying to de-rotate aircraft and was hit with a gust
You can aerobrake if you want, even on a 757. But this wasn’t that. And he wasn’t hit with a gust of wind either. He simply took his time letting the nose down.
Not the way to do it. High risk of tail strike, needs a bit of retraining I’d say
The tail strikes the runway due to excessive pitch. Not the amount of time the nose held off the runway. @@gileshammond
@@lbowsk I understand that but when you hold off like that you significantly increase the chances of it happening, just not good practice. Boeing certainly don’t recommend it
@@lbowsk right. I always find myself agreeing with you. 🤣
As stunning and scary as that landing was by the Drukair A320 was at 1:25 . I would love to see a take off with those Mountains off both end of the runway. I know they are farther away than they look, I hope.
They are not, actually! Paro airport is the most difficult airport to land on, and only 24 pilots worldwide posses the qualifications to be able to land at Paro Airport.
As far as I know due to the location and the complex take-off and landing procedures of Paro Airport take-offs are to only one direction and landings from the other only, no switching around.
@@papernecklacehow about one of the most difficult ones? I wouldn’t call it the most difficult one. There are some others that are as challenging or more challenging. Lukla being one example.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Lukla is an "airport" in name only, more like an airfield (helicopters and puddle jumpers props only). You're not going to land an A320 there - I'm sure the other person was talking about airports able to handle actual airliners
@@GearboxEnt well, it all depends on what someone calls difficult I guess. I personally feel Toncontin was one of the most difficult, especially since I had to go in after sunset, which is normally not allowed.
And if you google it, you get different lists and rankings. None have Paro as no1. Wellington NZ seems to rank higher. St Maarten seems to rank higher, even though I personally feel it’s a pretty straight forward and easy airport. I guess it’s all in the eye of the beholder.
Using AP to fly in formation, iconic!
Dang what a cool plane simulayor
0:41 F1 track visible here
2:22 landing is so smooth
It was a pre-organised formation. Not exactly too close or dangerous.
1:07 Que fofinho!😍
Am I the only one who at first glance thought the plane landing at Paro was from an airline called "Drunkair"?
Nice
AeroSucre #1
All Firefighter drops #2
Everything else #3
Wow where is that place/airport where Drukair is landing. Looks amazing. Anyone know? 1:32
What's really too close are the two planes seen below the Airbus @ 0:39....Drukair, is this landing at Paro?
Did you not read the caption? They're not too close to each other and they're not coming in for a landing they're putting on a demonstration flight try to pay attention! The only thing they screwed up within the caption is calling it two planes instead of three.
@@deannelson9565 He didn't suggest they were landing. He asked if the Drukair at 1:26 was landing at Paro.
Yeah it's in Paro
Regarding the fire fighting aircraft, why is the gear down?
At 2:38 is the smoke from the single prop an indicator of where to drop the flame retardant?
Correct.
1:23 lol at first I thought that said "Drunkair." I'd probably say no thanks to that airline if it were named that.
Last video, “plane flies too close to fire”. Why not that title also?
wow good
The Saudi formation was without pax?
Shouldn’t the trailing plane be below the other?
I’m surprised he put a smooth landing in here 😂
Can someone explain what aeronautic braking means in regard to the United plane? The thrust reversal deployed before the front wheel hit the ground?
I think it's just that he keeps the nose up, in order to maximise the drag of the wing to slow down. So he brakes with his wings
They keep the wig at a high angle-of-attack therefore the wing acts as an airbrake.
@@delfinenteddyson9865 You are correct.
As stated, keeping the nose up to create more drag with the wings. You're really not supposed to do that, without the nosewheel on the ground you have poor steering and if you're not careful you can slam it down when the lift runs out.
Aerodynamic braking on an airliner actually makes the landing roll longer, you want the energy going out of the nose wheel and you’re actually doing the exact opposite of what is normal standard operating procedure. The ground spoils and also can’t do their maximum job, because the pilot has the nose hanging in the air. This is nearly always an ex fighter pilot who simply cannot change his behavior. Most airliner SOP’s have verbiage that the nose gear is best on the ground. Several years ago in one of my airliner proficiency checks they specifically told the class not to do this.
Amazing. It was so cool video.
2:32 "Pilot Flies To Close To Wildfire"
That captain's still trying to get Radio 2.
that method of fighting forest fires has to be one of the most inefficient things ive ever seen
It's also extremely dangerous so if you've got a better idea I'm sure they'll be all ears
I doubt that this was aerodynamic breaking. I mean, it's definitely a thing (space shuttle), but this wouldn't have reduced landing distance. looked more like missing front gear training scenario to me.
It’s not a missing gear scenario. He simply lowered the nose a bit on the slow side.
Aerodynamic braking, if used, isn’t about reducing landing distance. It’s more about not using brakes.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 oh, okay. or, well … not fully agree on the not for reducing landing distance-part. for some scenarios, this is the exact reason.
I surely see what you say for a regular aircraft. but if I recall correctly, Concord used this method per design to cope with a higher landing speed required due to her delta wing design.
@@HxTurtle the Concorde did not use aerodynamic braking. Go ahead and search for Concorde landings on RUclips, they all lower their nose right after touchdown.
Fighter planes use aero braking because they have crappy brakes and they don’t want to overheat them.
Airlines shouldn’t use aero braking but you can. I used to do it on 747’s occasionally and still do on other types during certain circumstances. However, the shortest landing distance is using brakes. Aero braking can be used if you need to exit the runway at the very end and this way you don’t have to use brakes.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 thank you very much! 🫡
STOP using misleading video titles!
any reason why the erickson aero tanker flies with the landing gear down?
To create drag. The spool up time from idle are 5 seconds, so to prevent stalling in need of a go-around, you can keep the engines on a higher RPM.
That formation is impressive! Just curious, would you get a TCAS warning or can you disable TCAS beforehand?
You turn the transponders off.
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1:27 what airport is this?
Too close for what? It isn't too close until they try to occupy the same space at the same time.
Like in 2001 when all those Saudis flew planes too close to some buildings in New York.
Too close for snowflake comfort.
Too close for FAA regulations.
Too close for the sake of a video title..
Take you pick or mix and match..
@@renejean2523you keep posting moronic crap. I have a feeling you are not very well educated. Only a simple minded person makes these kind of remarks.
Is using aerodynamic braking in a 757 part of United SOP? 'Cause I'm pretty sure that no commercial airline would appreciate having to replace tires, breaks, and entire rear landing gear assemblies much more frequently than they do already. Leave that to the military pilots, and unless there's an emergency situation that calls for it, use your spoilers, reversers, and breaks. Unless you're Aerosucre, in that case, do what you want as it's a miracle that you managed to get off the ground at all.
I really enjoy the videos, and I am also a subscriber, but you need to get your titles right.
All flights are just a chess match with physics. ✈️
Bro imagine get allowed to do a fligh low in a comercial plane to a pilot is a dream😍
finally something about saudi 😅😅
Is it common to have the gear down when doing water or fire retardant bombing?
It is to increase drag so you have higher RPMs on the engines, since the spool up time from idle is quite long.
@@se-kmg355 thanks
Not sure the proper name for it but notice the spotter plane leave a smoke trail to signal the firefighter plane where to make the drop.
"marking smoke"
god bless the aerial firefighting crews.
2:34 does someone know why the plane flies with extended gear?
Drag.
It's a FAA requirement only for the MD80 during retardant drop! Flaps 40 and gear down! The reason is for the stall prevention system!
@@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion interesting, thank you!
I’m glad you asked, I was wondering the same thing. I’ve seen a couple videos showing the same configuration.
@@MyNotSoHumbleOpinion Thanks!
The united 757 was very slow lowering its nose wheel… not sure it’s was doing a wheelie!
Why does the fire fighting plane have the gears out?
if im not mistaken, i read on a blog, its due to how the fire bay is between the gears and requires the gear doors to be open, as they could not mechanically create a system within the MD-80's airframe otherwise without removing the doors completely.
Thats close !
A wheelie is a momentary pop up and down. Keeping a front wheel in the air for a sustained period of time is a catwalk.
I'm a model, you know what I mean
And I do my little turn on the catwalk
Yeah, on the catwalk, on the catwalk, yeah
I do my little turn on the catwalk
I'm too sexy for my car
Too sexy for my car
Too sexy by far
And I'm too sexy for my hat
Too sexy for my hat
What ya think about that?
That's not close. Looks perfect to me.
Formation flight so NOT too close! Forest has one 'r'.
First clip if TCAS had been on, it would have been screaming bloody murder.
"Aerodynamic braking" is the most inefficient way to slow and can lead to all sorts of other problems. Someone, who was probably a fighter pilot, needs retraining.
That's not a late turn. That's just Paro.
2:11 now do a burnout
2:20 makes me think that the approach speed was too high?