Dustborn was made to prioritize politics, DEI and their version of inclusivity, which is to exclude everyone who doesn't think like them. Meanwhile Wukong was made prioritizing fun and was made for anyone to enjoy. Each game has the audience it aimed for.
I know they're not smart but you'd think even they could realize making an entire game centered around "white men bad" wouldn't sell well when the majority of gamers are white men.
fair, but dont' cry when nobody played your game, and don't called people that don't play your game biggot, homophobic, racist and every thing in the world. because like you said. they simply not the audience that your aimed for.
@@solblackguydidn't the story ended in a cliffhanger? The showrunner (Harvey Weinstein's former personal assistant) could've ended it properly, but she was hoping for a 2nd season. Cancelled seems about right
Dustborn made about $2400 dollars from 81 all time players. Meanwhile, Black Myth: Wukong, with its 2.3 million peak players, has made over $130 million dollars ON ITS FIRST DAY! This really is the tale of two game ideologies: one is message first, the other is gameplay first. Guess which one will win?
Listen.... at $30 USD - and providing that NONE of the 81 peak players for Dustborn were the devs' friends or family using free game codes - this game pulled in a WHOPPING $2,430! That will EASILY pay for one month of rent in a tiny apartment for almost 2 people.
Don't believe the Polls for the election. It's all fakery there are real polls on X that have millions of participants and it's looking like 75 to 20, not close to 50 50. Register to vote let's get this country and our games back on track
That's NOT an exaggeration. The physical copies of Dustborn haven't even sold above 50 copies (that's PS5 and Xbox Series physical copies COMBINED and it hasn't even sold above 50 physical copies). Even Flintlock sold about 200 physical copies on A.P and that game is considered a huge bomb. I don't know about other sites and stores, but on A.P it hasn't sold above 50 copies.
They reduce their audience rather than increase it with the whole idea of people "seeing themselves in the game" rather than the idea of an "every man".
I genuinely cannot comprehend the requirement of having to see yourself in a character. I am an Asian man, in an Asian country; the idea of "seeing myself" never once entered my Asian brain when I was a little Asian boy watching Rocko's Modern Life, Kenan and Kel, and JLU. I never had any problem playing as Batman, Big Boss, or Lara Croft and only ever cared about smacking/shooting the other dudes on screen. Identity politics never mattered until the nepo babies of the US entertainment industry needed some way to pretend they aren't spoiled little wankers who are nothing beyond their privilege and connections.
1% would be an amazing success. Just some numbers: Steam has an estimated 130+ million active users currently. Sony sold 100 million PS4s and 50 million PS5s. The issue is not targeting the niche. Games do that all the time. From old-looking boomer shooters to turn based strategy games and hardcore dungeon crawlers, there are all kinds of genres that are not particularly mainstream but the size of the market makes it viable to succeed while targeting just a fraction of it. The is a marketing failure.
We have to add the RUclipsrs playing Dustborn to get footage to crap on it.. so the concurrent and total playerbase isn't even the entire Modern Audience
@@dredgewalkerthe woke journalists the woke anybody they didn't even vote for Joe Biden four years ago. They're literally nothing but a bunch of free mouthpieces free activists that choose to be complete slaves for the mainstream media and woke Hollywood.
All 66 of them 😂 can you imagine these devs risking their livelihoods bending over backwards to make these games that are liters;y closing studios down it’s unreal. Makes me think what if they are being forced to make them by Blackrock
Add the tale of Kenzara which in some ways parallel with Wukong in its theme as both was based on foreign countries indigenous folklore. The difference is one involved SBI which ruined its reputation while the other openly rejects it and thus praised. The gameplay of Wukong is also superior apparently which helps it very much.
It was made with EU taxpayer money, in case you wonder why it was financed in the first place. What a waste of our taxes. This is the only thing that makes me care about this game, I payed for this.
@@seagrey75 Even better, 8 years of development for this gem. It's a visual novel with extra steps, not Cyberpunk. 17 Hours playtime, mostly boring dialogue. For 8 years they got their paychecks from our paychecks making this. Something promoting European culture was axed for this!
If I was a liberal feminist working for Kotaku, IGN, or Screen Rant, I’d be looking at the numbers for Dustborn compared to Black Myth Wukong and realize that I’m outnumbered 2.5 million to 60, and that I’m a complete and total loser who nobody likes and probably smells like cat piss Based on these numbers, for every one of them, there are 40 thousand of us. We are the gamers. We are the consumers. We’re not buying their crap. We’re not reading their articles and reviews. We will support anything they say is bad, and ignore everything they say is good We will troll them endlessly until they leave gaming We… are… DONE with these people and their ideology
@@malcovich_games I'd say it does even if it personally I am not a fan of gacha games. I'll tell you what doesn't count, that would be crypto ""games""
@@AlessandroRodriguez The world got its answer about the modern audience (though it's most likely the developers with their friends and family playing).
After 8 years they could have made a game like Wukong and made a lot of money. Instead they spent 8 years festering in resentment and greivances and came out the other side broke. Smart people learn from their own mistakes; wise people learn from othee people's mistakes. I'm guessing the developers of DB are neither smart nor wise.
I’m excited with Chinese games studios getting popularity on steam, we should get some great games. I don’t hate Chinese people, they can’t help who governs them, we are going through shite in the west with our terrible policies.
It shouldn't be said that you shouldn't hate the citizens of a country just because their government sucks. Chinese citizens are having a much harder time with their government than we are. I don't like Canada's government, not gonna stop me playing Dead by Daylight. I don't like my own government in the UK either, won't stop me playing GTA (yes, believe it or not, GTA is a British franchise).
Costs a minimum of 7 million, to remove at least 1 million potential paying customers, in order to appeal up to 100 potential customers. Wokeness is a violation of feduciary duty.
The physical copy of Dustborn on A.P has NOT sold above 50 copies. Seriously, it hasn't even sold more than 50 copies. How do I know this? When physical copies on A.P sell above 50 copies, they show how much the game has sold. If it does NOT sell above 50 then they don't show the numbers sold. There are NO numbers shown on that physical copy of Dustborn, meaning it hasn't sold above 50 copies (even Flintlock, which is considered a huge bomb, sold 200 physical copies on A.P, just to give you an idea on how non-existent the sales for Dustborn are on A.P).
A.P is Amazn Prime. I don't think any of the other websites that sell physical copies show sales numbers for the month, but they do. Sometimes they forget to update the numbers for the month, but they are typically very good showing the accurate numbers for a while (especially during the release day) before they reset for the next month. As of now, Dustborn has NOT sold above 50 physical copies, which is insanely bad for a newly released game being sold on both Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X. I've never seen a newly released game on major consoles sell LESS than 50 physical copies.
It's not on early access anymore, the official release date for the game was August 20th, 2024 (that includes the physical copy, it's release date was August 20th). The way it works on A.P is that they show pre-order numbers for the month before the official release date... unless those numbers are under 50. No preorder numbers are shown for the month, so it had LESS than 50 preorders. Now that the game has released, it's not showing units sold either, which means it has NOT sold above 50 copies. I don't know how much it has sold (maybe zero? five? ten?) but it's definitely LESS than 50 copies. For a newly released physical game, that's unheard of (again, even Flintlock sold 200 physical copies on A.P during it's debut month and that game is considered a massive bomb). Anyway, since the physical copies aren't selling, expect a 50% reduction of it's price by late next month or by late October. It will probably have a 75% reduction in price by January as they are struggling to clear the copies out of the warehouse.
Have you ever considered it's just bad marketing as in inefficient. Or maybe that the game just wasn't appealing. Yall keep bitching about the non existent WOKE business or whatever.
@@merlin9845 You are not a soldier nor comparable to one. You are just another person coping with their insecurities and superiority complex, by taking it out on other perceived groups.
Looking at a stream of Dustborn and...I am not sure why they didn't promote it to the Life is Strange audience. It's right up their alley. Hell, the only promotion this game got was hate videos signal boosting it.
Is anyone surprised by this? I’m still waiting for this so called “modern audience” to show up to buy these woke games featuring “diverse” characters and pronoun options. I’m convinced that these devs/studios watched a GDQ stream and proclaimed, “THIS is the modern audience! THIS is what gamers are now!” They don’t realize that these speed runners are on an absolutely extreme end of the gamer spectrum, and they represent the chronically online people who are able to commit thousands of hours of time to master a single game. These are not normal gamers.
or they'll go on their merry way to infect other studios and start the circle of "diversity" anew. just like John Carpenter's The Thing, of course always killing the host in the process and wearing it's appearance for a while.
Even though it´s a money grave. The production costs go into several millions. Given 1000 people bought this game (which may be far less with 72 players on release day) they have earned about 30k $. No sane investor would put money into it. So they have to rely on organizations (government , NGOs) to finance this crap. But their intention is to spread the message to as many players as possible , which is not the case here.
Doubt it. This was in development for 8 years. I feel like the budget would be high. And 8 years from now I don't think there will be any more games like that
Idk, after all these games have been failing financially, these DEI hires all grab what little money they can squeeze out of the company and then run for the hills to ruin someone else’s success. It will take years to fix the damage, but it’s easier to just release the games at this point and try to make some of the money back.
Indie games were intended for these "art" pieces. That's where you can express any message/experience you want. Burning 100million on your fanfic does not entitle you to everyone's wallet.
These are people who think freedom of speech = tyranny, and censorship = freedom. They also think looting and arson are a part of legitimate protest, and not criminal acts. They view everything upside down and backwards.
DEI haters stand strong. I am not even enjoying Black Myth that much but absolutely no regrets buying it. And will never buy another product that even hints of support for DEI agenda.
Black myth wukongis not really my thing but I'm glad it did well and stuck it to the alphabet mafia. I'm waiting for visions of mana and lollipop chainsaw might grab og RE2 when it releases on gog.
@@wallakfir90 Sadly, Ragnar Tørnquist who was lead on The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, Anarchy Online, and The Secret World at Funcom, and went on to found Red Thread Games to make Dreamfall Chapters is still running things there now. Not sure why a bunch of Norwegians feel the need to make a game inspired by Trump, but I suppose if they made a game about the problems Scandinavia has it probably wouldn't as likely to get a grant from the Norwegian Film Institute to pay for most of the budget.
As a normal, regular Latino guy born and raised in Texas, if they want to spend millions of dollars for a game that will sell under a hundred copies, I say "you do you." I'll play fun and engaging games like Stellar Blade, Subverse, and classics like Metal Gear Solid.
The problem with DEI games is that companies like Blackrock are throwing free money at any studio that is willing to create games that have unpopular things like ugly people and politically charged garbage. As long as those companies keep throwing free money for DEI games, we're going to keep seeing DEI games in the future. I'd suggest NOBODY buy these kind of games and keep supporting studios that actually gives the player base what they want.
I never cared enough to know who is making Dustborn, I always thought it's some small indie studio, but you are telling me it's Quantic Dream? The same people who once made really popular games? Wow that sucks
@MrHellgate82 they're just a publisher, not the devs. Even still, I get your point, why would they pick this up? Some of their games had small political/ sociological undertones (Detroit) but that was about it, and they integrated into the story well. I hope this makes them realise no one wants DEI crap. I'm worried their next narrative game will have loads of it. The devs of this game are indie, only known for the Dreamfall games, of which there are two.
Dustborn was co-funded by the MEDIA sub-programme of Creative Europe, which is essentially tax-payer money from the European Union. These games will not stop anytime soon, best we can do is ignore them completely (which isn't very hard, since they're never any good)
That would actually be a brilliant tactic if you could make it work. Pirate a game, then get it refunded to drain their bank account. Get a few hundred hackers to do the same thing.
Is there a physical copy of the game? The only way this will be valuable is by the sheer rarity for future collectors like Super 3D Noah's Ark and Bubble Bath Babes.
So happy for them. Let's hope they can win GOTY this year and not being rigged like TLoU2. Asian devs and their game studios are our savior from Western-infected woke culture games right now.
Just an abject lesson. You can create a product, that doesn’t necessarily mean it will sell. A savvy studio should be focusing on providing a product that their customers desire. Attacking your customer base has never been a profitable pursuit. Concentrate on good story, good gameplay, and practical functionality. If both parties are considerate of each other, so much the better.
One thing I will praise Dustborn for is having an original IP. At least they are not destroying existing IPs to preach their message. It is not great praise but I must give them credit for a creating an original IP.
I'm a conservative, but that "CCP" comment from some commentators is beyond dumb. Just try reversing it. Every time an american company makes a game say "That's a U.S government game, why are we praising it?". It is equally ridiculous. Conflating people or companies with the goverment of their country is just such a shallow generalization.
It comes from the fact that they told reviewers not to talk about things the CCP hates, like "covid-19". But of course this is likely a defense mechanism agains persecution by their own government. You can't take CCP out of the equation because CCP always forces its way in.
Exactly 💯. It's a private company (who are all about free markets and making money by doing things with hard work). Sounds pretty American to me. They aren't doing this for the Party. They're doing this to feed their families. And the old guard Party tried to get rid of ancient Chinese legends by the way.
not to mention a journey to the west was written in like 1530 if i remember correctly, needless to say there wasn't any reds back then ... and it's quite precious to see them complain about the game being chinese propaganda, when western "entertainement" have been pushing commie propaganda, if not worst, for decades already.
Gotta make another comment. The thing is, games can have diversity in them, trans or whatever you want. The problem is, these developers and "writers" don't write characters as people, they write them as stereotypes that have no personalities and are only one note. The black characters personality is being black, the trans persons personality is being trans and so on. If these people actually tried writing these people as just people, they would probably be a bit more accepted in media but they don't because they don't know how.
God forbid a smaller dev studio make a video game you don't personally like. Like to compare a AA tier game at best to something with the budget of Wukong tells us nothing other than how you're willing to kick down to vindicate yourself and others.
well if you think about it, if the Chinese govt is behind this game and US govt is behind Concord... then which govt is the one just out there making a good product and which govt is the one spending ungodly amounts of money slandering the other one...
I'm sure the MA's exist, they just can't scrape together 30$ to support the games made for them. It's hard when you have student loans to pay for on a Starbucks salary.
Lol, a Chinese game said no to american DEI and is dominating the american market and showing america how to make successful games instead of american games shutting down many studios bcoz no one plays them. China is showing you how broken your "entertainment" industry is. 😂😂😂
There is such a negligible number of black female gamers. If a game puts black females front and center, I know to immediately pass. Game was made for a phantom audience.
I was pretty hyped about Dustborn, and it did not disappoint. And I say that in the way it failed. Had a good laugh at the number of players being in the double digits. Gamers don't want this crap.
That seems to be about the total number of people buying games driven by motives other than making good games. Glad to see them realizing the size of such an audience.
The best thing for devs to do when it comes to satisfying the modern audience is to just make mobile games for them, its cheap and it works within their broke budget
meanwhile, steam charts shown all -time peak of Black Myth: WuKong players was over 2.2 million. Monarch said "Racers should race, cops should eat donuts !" I say "Gamers should play real games, woke activists should play concord !! (or dustborn) "
At least we could be glad for DEI games and congratulating their PR departments for finding AND reaching ALL OF THEIR 200 target audience players. 100% target audience reach.
Well, I'm glad they didn't ruin an existing Franchise and did something separate. The same goes for concord. Those type of games can gladly exist for the "modern audience", as long as they don't interfere with other games.
Sony out here thinking Concord was a good idea instead of thinking of making a F2P LBP game, it would do wonders for them. Especially considering there was one In development back In 2013 till it was canned, pretty much perfect to make one now but no... Fuckin concord, a game nobody asked for
Don't be mean! Don't you see that practically the entire "modern audience" is playing this game right now!?
@diostaku2 Heh, don't see them.
@@kendonl.taylor5111 If you blink you'll miss them, they are creatures of legends and folklore after all.
@@diostaku2 - Creatures of legends and folklore have better qualities to them than the "modern audience".
@@ahmataevo I guess it would be more correct to call them Lovecraftian horrors then.
I expect them to be content creators who will produce hilarious videos 😂
Dustborn was made to prioritize politics, DEI and their version of inclusivity, which is to exclude everyone who doesn't think like them. Meanwhile Wukong was made prioritizing fun and was made for anyone to enjoy. Each game has the audience it aimed for.
I know they're not smart but you'd think even they could realize making an entire game centered around "white men bad" wouldn't sell well when the majority of gamers are white men.
Who would have thought a product that is meant to entertain, will be more popular if it entertains instead of lectures? Amazing stuff right?
Its as if gamers just want fun games more than anything, crazy concept I know 🤯
Monke with stick...monke beat monster with stick....look fun
fair, but dont' cry when nobody played your game, and don't called people that don't play your game biggot, homophobic, racist and every thing in the world. because like you said. they simply not the audience that your aimed for.
Imagine spending 7 years of your life on a project and getting a thousand dollars to split between like 30 people.
Wonder when the studio shuts down?
afraid they will be bailed out by the people who push this stuff. money isnt their purpose
Its power
Take your bets, who will they blame?
A)White people
B)Gamers
C)Right Wing
D)4Chan
E)All of the above
I vote E
E
I vote F, which is all of the above, and make E men
E) for they all can do this👎👎
E and straight men
I don't care if the game is made by China, they're making better games, so I'm buying. Western devs can cope and seeth.
What's even funnier is that we can flip the script on them and call THEM the racists because of their hate towards Asians 😂
Agreed. I bought Atomic Heart which is by a Russian developer during the peak of the Ukrainian/Russian war, and I had a blast with it.
@@LM-nb7rj Asians are white according to the woke mob
Hey, even the communists can do capitalism better than these people.
Communist
72 players and 8 years in the making 😅
they chase the 'modern audience' and they do get it tho, i guess i applaud them for that dedication lmao
@@exion2011
Most likely just the devs, family and friends etc who got a free copy. Maybe some streamers to point and laugh. 😂
No way it took more than 6 months
8 years yapping on Twitter
They were united by their hatred of deplorables.
First the Acolyte got cancelled and now this...A good day indeed
Acolyte was only approved for one season. It didn't get cancelled.
@@solblackguydidn't the story ended in a cliffhanger? The showrunner (Harvey Weinstein's former personal assistant) could've ended it properly, but she was hoping for a 2nd season. Cancelled seems about right
@@solblackguy it cancelled! leslie said she had ideas for season 2 but it cancelled😂
Im glad acolyte got cancelled the show was terrible Lucas film and Disney should have thought this through but now it’s too late now.
Wait for the next news. 😂😂😂😂
Those 60 players playing the game are the entire Modern Audience all the game development companies shill for.
Nah its probaby reviewers who praising the game in media XD.
@@LukiGames0nah it’s probably just the devs and their family.
Some of it might even be streamers making fun of it and then getting a refund within the 2 hours
The company that made it probably have it running as a background application.
Realistically that's the majority
And 90% of that got the game for free.
Dustborn made about $2400 dollars from 81 all time players. Meanwhile, Black Myth: Wukong, with its 2.3 million peak players, has made over $130 million dollars ON ITS FIRST DAY! This really is the tale of two game ideologies: one is message first, the other is gameplay first. Guess which one will win?
That's not counting the PS5 players yet.
And remember, for Wukong, that is only Steam; they made far more than that.
@@snailrancheryep there's also consoles.
And I think China has their own games distribution app like Steam.
That's concurrent players so the total purchases should be higher, though not much for Dustborn.
Yet people like dust born developers will triple down on this ...
Listen.... at $30 USD - and providing that NONE of the 81 peak players for Dustborn were the devs' friends or family using free game codes - this game pulled in a WHOPPING $2,430!
That will EASILY pay for one month of rent in a tiny apartment for almost 2 people.
Don’t forget that steam takes 30% of the revenue
@@Meng481 Oh yeah!
.....UH OHHHH....!!!
Don't believe the Polls for the election. It's all fakery there are real polls on X that have millions of participants and it's looking like 75 to 20, not close to 50 50. Register to vote let's get this country and our games back on track
And they have to pay tax on that income...
Nope, rent is far higher than that in the middle of nowhere.
DEI game vs anti-DEI game - who will win?
the gamers have spoken
2 millions plus vs 60
"there are many of us" says the 69 modern audience in front of 2 million normal people
It's not even an anti DEI game, that would imply taking a swipe at DEI. It's just a solid game that does a good job of adapting the source material.
wukong isnt even "anti-DEI" its just a game
Shit or piss? The gamers have spoken! 😂😂😂
Straight in the dustbin.
That's NOT an exaggeration. The physical copies of Dustborn haven't even sold above 50 copies (that's PS5 and Xbox Series physical copies COMBINED and it hasn't even sold above 50 physical copies). Even Flintlock sold about 200 physical copies on A.P and that game is considered a huge bomb. I don't know about other sites and stores, but on A.P it hasn't sold above 50 copies.
They reduce their audience rather than increase it with the whole idea of people "seeing themselves in the game" rather than the idea of an "every man".
I genuinely cannot comprehend the requirement of having to see yourself in a character. I am an Asian man, in an Asian country; the idea of "seeing myself" never once entered my Asian brain when I was a little Asian boy watching Rocko's Modern Life, Kenan and Kel, and JLU. I never had any problem playing as Batman, Big Boss, or Lara Croft and only ever cared about smacking/shooting the other dudes on screen.
Identity politics never mattered until the nepo babies of the US entertainment industry needed some way to pretend they aren't spoiled little wankers who are nothing beyond their privilege and connections.
You aim at the 1%, you get 1% sales. 72 Games Journalists playing Dustborn
Not even the woke journos would play this, the player base is most likely the family of the developers.
Imagine the street cred 🤣🤣
1% would be an amazing success.
Just some numbers:
Steam has an estimated 130+ million active users currently.
Sony sold 100 million PS4s and 50 million PS5s.
The issue is not targeting the niche. Games do that all the time. From old-looking boomer shooters to turn based strategy games and hardcore dungeon crawlers, there are all kinds of genres that are not particularly mainstream but the size of the market makes it viable to succeed while targeting just a fraction of it.
The is a marketing failure.
We have to add the RUclipsrs playing Dustborn to get footage to crap on it.. so the concurrent and total playerbase isn't even the entire Modern Audience
@@dredgewalkerthe woke journalists the woke anybody they didn't even vote for Joe Biden four years ago. They're literally nothing but a bunch of free mouthpieces free activists that choose to be complete slaves for the mainstream media and woke Hollywood.
a game for modern audience lmao
Sir, I do not think they exist!
All 66 of them 😂 can you imagine these devs risking their livelihoods bending over backwards to make these games that are liters;y closing studios down it’s unreal. Makes me think what if they are being forced to make them by Blackrock
@@alanex100no they do exist but they are so small of a majority they don’t even register
>loli
My guy is basically a Chris tyson fan talking about ''modern audience''
Hypocritical moment
Based profile picture and username
dustborn, tale of kenzara, concord and suicide squad:KTJL WISHED they were as popular as wukong
combine ? 🤣🤣
Wukong: eat dust suckers~~~~🤣🤣
western devs are getting washed rn
Add the tale of Kenzara which in some ways parallel with Wukong in its theme as both was based on foreign countries indigenous folklore.
The difference is one involved SBI which ruined its reputation while the other openly rejects it and thus praised. The gameplay of Wukong is also superior apparently which helps it very much.
nah the tag on dustborn alone makes me sick, disgusting literally
They wish they have a fraction of Wukong. Instead they get 0.0001% (I didn't actually do the math)
It was made with EU taxpayer money, in case you wonder why it was financed in the first place. What a waste of our taxes. This is the only thing that makes me care about this game, I payed for this.
F**k the E.U! It goes way beyond this game our countries are at their breaking point.
Such a shame... I pay taxes for this garbage.
@@seagrey75 Even better, 8 years of development for this gem. It's a visual novel with extra steps, not Cyberpunk. 17 Hours playtime, mostly boring dialogue.
For 8 years they got their paychecks from our paychecks making this.
Something promoting European culture was axed for this!
Only in Woke World, would it make any sense to make the public pay to make the game, then make them pay again to play it.
If I was a liberal feminist working for Kotaku, IGN, or Screen Rant, I’d be looking at the numbers for Dustborn compared to Black Myth Wukong and realize that I’m outnumbered 2.5 million to 60, and that I’m a complete and total loser who nobody likes and probably smells like cat piss
Based on these numbers, for every one of them, there are 40 thousand of us.
We are the gamers.
We are the consumers.
We’re not buying their crap.
We’re not reading their articles and reviews. We will support anything they say is bad, and ignore everything they say is good
We will troll them endlessly until they leave gaming
We… are… DONE with these people and their ideology
"Everything woke turns to shit"
- President Donald J. Trump.
MY president, OUR president, make our country great again!!!
Get Woke Go Broke!
Screw the woke mob 2024
Well said
@@Thissapunyo Was true before, is still true now.
Chinese should be very proud. They made their first legit IP and smash hit.
Genshin Impact is also a Chinese IP tho.
@@ARStudios2000some would argue that gacha doesn’t count (it does, IMO)
@@malcovich_games I'd say it does even if it personally I am not a fan of gacha games.
I'll tell you what doesn't count, that would be crypto ""games""
@@malcovich_gamesit still became a benchmark for mobile games so it's influential enough
This is not among the most successful Chinese game. The most successful Chinese games are gatcha games. Pepare for the future of gaming. 😂😂😂😂
I mean, Dustborn or Wukong. Not a tough choice. I guess they thought the modern audience would flock to their game.
Technically it flock, almost all the "modern audience" is playing it now, all tens of fhem.
@@AlessandroRodriguez The world got its answer about the modern audience (though it's most likely the developers with their friends and family playing).
@@AlessandroRodriguez "There are dozens of us! Dozens!"
After 8 years they could have made a game like Wukong and made a lot of money. Instead they spent 8 years festering in resentment and greivances and came out the other side broke.
Smart people learn from their own mistakes; wise people learn from othee people's mistakes. I'm guessing the developers of DB are neither smart nor wise.
The Modern Audience is playing their game! 😂
I’m excited with Chinese games studios getting popularity on steam, we should get some great games. I don’t hate Chinese people, they can’t help who governs them, we are going through shite in the west with our terrible policies.
It shouldn't be said that you shouldn't hate the citizens of a country just because their government sucks. Chinese citizens are having a much harder time with their government than we are.
I don't like Canada's government, not gonna stop me playing Dead by Daylight. I don't like my own government in the UK either, won't stop me playing GTA (yes, believe it or not, GTA is a British franchise).
@@whiskiiAgree, some of the best games I played come from Russia.
Costs a minimum of 7 million, to remove at least 1 million potential paying customers, in order to appeal up to 100 potential customers.
Wokeness is a violation of feduciary duty.
The physical copy of Dustborn on A.P has NOT sold above 50 copies. Seriously, it hasn't even sold more than 50 copies. How do I know this? When physical copies on A.P sell above 50 copies, they show how much the game has sold. If it does NOT sell above 50 then they don't show the numbers sold. There are NO numbers shown on that physical copy of Dustborn, meaning it hasn't sold above 50 copies (even Flintlock, which is considered a huge bomb, sold 200 physical copies on A.P, just to give you an idea on how non-existent the sales for Dustborn are on A.P).
May be a stupid question but what is A.P?
A.P is Amazn Prime. I don't think any of the other websites that sell physical copies show sales numbers for the month, but they do. Sometimes they forget to update the numbers for the month, but they are typically very good showing the accurate numbers for a while (especially during the release day) before they reset for the next month. As of now, Dustborn has NOT sold above 50 physical copies, which is insanely bad for a newly released game being sold on both Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X. I've never seen a newly released game on major consoles sell LESS than 50 physical copies.
Wait wasn't it on early access? Why would they have a physical copy?
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It's not on early access anymore, the official release date for the game was August 20th, 2024 (that includes the physical copy, it's release date was August 20th). The way it works on A.P is that they show pre-order numbers for the month before the official release date... unless those numbers are under 50. No preorder numbers are shown for the month, so it had LESS than 50 preorders. Now that the game has released, it's not showing units sold either, which means it has NOT sold above 50 copies. I don't know how much it has sold (maybe zero? five? ten?) but it's definitely LESS than 50 copies. For a newly released physical game, that's unheard of (again, even Flintlock sold 200 physical copies on A.P during it's debut month and that game is considered a massive bomb). Anyway, since the physical copies aren't selling, expect a 50% reduction of it's price by late next month or by late October. It will probably have a 75% reduction in price by January as they are struggling to clear the copies out of the warehouse.
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Gamers = Millon+
Morden Audience = less than 3000 😂😂😂😂😂
Have you ever considered it's just bad marketing as in inefficient.
Or maybe that the game just wasn't appealing.
Yall keep bitching about the non existent WOKE business or whatever.
Nonexistant woke business, bro the entire game is infested with it@@ChocolateChipcookiie
@@LongLiveMao Yall out here fighting shadows🫃
@@ChocolateChipcookiie Soldier keeps on fighting for 20 years after the war ends:
@@merlin9845 You are not a soldier nor comparable to one.
You are just another person coping with their insecurities and superiority complex, by taking it out on other perceived groups.
I can give praise to the people of China while still disapproving of their government.
Hell I disapprove of my own government in the UK.
I think you can safely say, most countries dislike their government.
Black Myth breaking records and Dustborn having barely 100 players. And they keep wondering why it's failing on them...
Looking at a stream of Dustborn and...I am not sure why they didn't promote it to the Life is Strange audience. It's right up their alley.
Hell, the only promotion this game got was hate videos signal boosting it.
Lmao actually true
Is anyone surprised by this? I’m still waiting for this so called “modern audience” to show up to buy these woke games featuring “diverse” characters and pronoun options.
I’m convinced that these devs/studios watched a GDQ stream and proclaimed, “THIS is the modern audience! THIS is what gamers are now!” They don’t realize that these speed runners are on an absolutely extreme end of the gamer spectrum, and they represent the chronically online people who are able to commit thousands of hours of time to master a single game. These are not normal gamers.
They'll fire all employees, in 3 months hire just as many if not more, and make another woke game. It is a vicious, endless cycle with these people
or they'll go on their merry way to infect other studios and start the circle of "diversity" anew.
just like John Carpenter's The Thing, of course always killing the host in the process and wearing it's appearance for a while.
Even though it´s a money grave. The production costs go into several millions. Given 1000 people bought this game (which may be far less with 72 players on release day) they have earned about 30k $. No sane investor would put money into it. So they have to rely on organizations (government , NGOs) to finance this crap. But their intention is to spread the message to as many players as possible , which is not the case here.
Doubt it. This was in development for 8 years. I feel like the budget would be high. And 8 years from now I don't think there will be any more games like that
Idk, after all these games have been failing financially, these DEI hires all grab what little money they can squeeze out of the company and then run for the hills to ruin someone else’s success. It will take years to fix the damage, but it’s easier to just release the games at this point and try to make some of the money back.
@@snowbunnie1113 yeah the money simply isn't there. And even if it was, it's hard to change society through these games if nobody buys them
Indie games were intended for these "art" pieces. That's where you can express any message/experience you want. Burning 100million on your fanfic does not entitle you to everyone's wallet.
It even looks like an indie game. Quantic dream have certainly taken a few steps backwards since Detroit
So they got the entirety of the fabled ModErn auDiEnce to play their game ... all 100 of them , absolute legends
Well, the people have spoken.
Dustborn into the world, now dust in the wind.
From dust you were formed, to dust you shall return.
I close my eyes only for a moment, and Dustborn is gone.
@@DarthEquus All they were is dust in the wind
The republic of America? do they not know we are already a constitutional republic?
These are people who think freedom of speech = tyranny, and censorship = freedom. They also think looting and arson are a part of legitimate protest, and not criminal acts.
They view everything upside down and backwards.
They do know, and they hate it.
Would you side with the Republic of America or freaks on a greyhound bus calling for anarchy?
@@autobotstarscream765They hate logic it fries their tiny commie brains
Now I don't feel so bad that my solo game got a peak 5 players.
You don’t have a marketing department so that’s not half bad!
What's your game called?
My friend you almost have more players then sweet baby inc keep. Going and youll supas them
The Republic of America in this game genuinely sounds like a great place. Hope we can get to something like that in real life.
These sick progressives will never realise that they are the evil ones.
The only game where you wanna side with the "bad guys"
I’d live there! It sounds awesome!
DEI haters stand strong. I am not even enjoying Black Myth that much but absolutely no regrets buying it. And will never buy another product that even hints of support for DEI agenda.
How come your not enjoying so much?
Fitting that one of the most busted characters in mythology gets one of the biggest blockbusters in game history.
Black myth wukongis not really my thing but I'm glad it did well and stuck it to the alphabet mafia. I'm waiting for visions of mana and lollipop chainsaw might grab og RE2 when it releases on gog.
Can't believe the same company made Dreamfall Chapters, one of my favorite adventure games.
These companies often do not stay the same and a lot of good developers/decision makers leave. EA also used to be good back in the day.
@@wallakfir90 Sadly, Ragnar Tørnquist who was lead on The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, Anarchy Online, and The Secret World at Funcom, and went on to found Red Thread Games to make Dreamfall Chapters is still running things there now. Not sure why a bunch of Norwegians feel the need to make a game inspired by Trump, but I suppose if they made a game about the problems Scandinavia has it probably wouldn't as likely to get a grant from the Norwegian Film Institute to pay for most of the budget.
As a normal, regular Latino guy born and raised in Texas, if they want to spend millions of dollars for a game that will sell under a hundred copies, I say "you do you."
I'll play fun and engaging games like Stellar Blade, Subverse, and classics like Metal Gear Solid.
I didn't even know dustborn cam out.
I’m still wondering what it’s all about. I hadn’t even seen any ads for it or anything
@@charliejones7512 go look at the games plays oooor... here's a thought....GOOGLE...Ik I didn't know Google could look sht up
Game should be renamed "Dustbin" because that's where it should end up.
The problem with DEI games is that companies like Blackrock are throwing free money at any studio that is willing to create games that have unpopular things like ugly people and politically charged garbage.
As long as those companies keep throwing free money for DEI games, we're going to keep seeing DEI games in the future. I'd suggest NOBODY buy these kind of games and keep supporting studios that actually gives the player base what they want.
Quantic Dream will now have to fold. They never made quite enough to justify their existence, but now...
They made genuine art at one point
Yep.
I never cared enough to know who is making Dustborn, I always thought it's some small indie studio, but you are telling me it's Quantic Dream? The same people who once made really popular games? Wow that sucks
@@MrHellgate82 The dev's name is Red Thread Games. Quantic Dream only helped them publish it through their Indie-ish arm, Spotlight.
@@MrHellgate82QD is just publishing it. They loved tbe concept soooo much they took the team under their wing. Can you imagine this?
@MrHellgate82 they're just a publisher, not the devs. Even still, I get your point, why would they pick this up? Some of their games had small political/ sociological undertones (Detroit) but that was about it, and they integrated into the story well.
I hope this makes them realise no one wants DEI crap. I'm worried their next narrative game will have loads of it.
The devs of this game are indie, only known for the Dreamfall games, of which there are two.
33 people are currently playing.
Only in 2024 can a game that’s being called racist and sexist mean that it’s actually a good normal video game
TDS The Game
Dustborn was co-funded by the MEDIA sub-programme of Creative Europe, which is essentially tax-payer money from the European Union. These games will not stop anytime soon, best we can do is ignore them completely (which isn't very hard, since they're never any good)
The E.U. is a huge reason for why culture is so ugly right now.
In that case, as an Englishman, I'm glad Brexit happened and I didn't fund this trash.
These woke trashfire games make me think maybe we treated the Atari's ET too harshly.
Sweet Baby single handedly cleaning up the video game industry, one studio at a time. RIP the Dustborn studio.
Corona is not the danger. Real danger is them.
Even if I pirated Dustborn, I want a refund
Why even bother at that point. It's waste of time, bandwith, and disk space.
That would actually be a brilliant tactic if you could make it work. Pirate a game, then get it refunded to drain their bank account. Get a few hundred hackers to do the same thing.
Why would you pirate this dustbin?
Is there a physical copy of the game? The only way this will be valuable is by the sheer rarity for future collectors like Super 3D Noah's Ark and Bubble Bath Babes.
So happy for them. Let's hope they can win GOTY this year and not being rigged like TLoU2.
Asian devs and their game studios are our savior from Western-infected woke culture games right now.
"Black" myth wu-kong? [TRIGGERED]
You hear that? It's the sound of money being flushed down the drain.
Just an abject lesson. You can create a product, that doesn’t necessarily mean it will sell. A savvy studio should be focusing on providing a product that their customers desire. Attacking your customer base has never been a profitable pursuit. Concentrate on good story, good gameplay, and practical functionality. If both parties are considerate of each other, so much the better.
Dustborn has a targeted audience. Said audience is small as fuck, so good luck on their profits!
One thing I will praise Dustborn for is having an original IP.
At least they are not destroying existing IPs to preach their message.
It is not great praise but I must give them credit for a creating an original IP.
I'm a conservative, but that "CCP" comment from some commentators is beyond dumb. Just try reversing it. Every time an american company makes a game say "That's a U.S government game, why are we praising it?". It is equally ridiculous. Conflating people or companies with the goverment of their country is just such a shallow generalization.
It comes from the fact that they told reviewers not to talk about things the CCP hates, like "covid-19". But of course this is likely a defense mechanism agains persecution by their own government. You can't take CCP out of the equation because CCP always forces its way in.
The thing is that all China based companies must have a CCP based position in upper management. Feel free to look into it further.
Exactly 💯. It's a private company (who are all about free markets and making money by doing things with hard work). Sounds pretty American to me. They aren't doing this for the Party. They're doing this to feed their families.
And the old guard Party tried to get rid of ancient Chinese legends by the way.
Because in China there are only CCP companies. Not at all equivalent.
not to mention a journey to the west was written in like 1530 if i remember correctly, needless to say there wasn't any reds back then ...
and it's quite precious to see them complain about the game being chinese propaganda,
when western "entertainement" have been pushing commie propaganda, if not worst, for decades already.
Gotta make another comment.
The thing is, games can have diversity in them, trans or whatever you want. The problem is, these developers and "writers" don't write characters as people, they write them as stereotypes that have no personalities and are only one note. The black characters personality is being black, the trans persons personality is being trans and so on.
If these people actually tried writing these people as just people, they would probably be a bit more accepted in media but they don't because they don't know how.
I am shocked utterly shocked
Well not that shocked.
Me too I didn't expect 2.2 million on Wukong but damn
God forbid a smaller dev studio make a video game you don't personally like.
Like to compare a AA tier game at best to something with the budget of Wukong tells us nothing other than how you're willing to kick down to vindicate yourself and others.
well if you think about it, if the Chinese govt is behind this game and US govt is behind Concord... then which govt is the one just out there making a good product and which govt is the one spending ungodly amounts of money slandering the other one...
Dustborn succeeded in making a game that represents their players, the whole 100 of them.
Massive TDS lol
I'm sure the MA's exist, they just can't scrape together 30$ to support the games made for them. It's hard when you have student loans to pay for on a Starbucks salary.
Lol, a Chinese game said no to american DEI and is dominating the american market and showing america how to make successful games instead of american games shutting down many studios bcoz no one plays them. China is showing you how broken your "entertainment" industry is. 😂😂😂
If I recall Dustborn isn't an American product, I think it was a Nordic product?
"But how dare you not care about all the layoffs in the western part of the industry." - games journos.
This should be a clear sign to the big devs what us gamers want.
There is such a negligible number of black female gamers. If a game puts black females front and center, I know to immediately pass. Game was made for a phantom audience.
I'm a black female gamer and I don't even want that shit. No thanks, I like to have fun not be preached at and told how oppressed I am 😒🙄
Basically, after the DEI was defeated the next controversy for Wukong is "Murika says China bad"?
I don't understand making games for people who didn't ask.
I mean dustborn succeeds. They pulled in 30% of the population they make games for. Thats pretty good
Mentally ill Goblin simulator. No thanks.
Dustborn devs nailed it - they made a game to reflect and cater to their audience, and those 100-ish people are loving it, I'm sure.
I think the mistake is releasing at about the same time as Black Myth Wukong
They wanted to go head to head, i am betting it was completely intentional
The mistake is releasing it at all.
Yes because they get massively mocked, no because there is no real competition between the two that would have actually caused lost sales.
I don't see a problem, they made a game for the "modern audience" and got everybody in it to play it. If any thing, it's a succes story.
Time to look for a new job. Having Dustborn on the resume is gonna be a killer.
We gamers want to support studios and play games created by developers that - AT THE VERY LEAST - don't actively hate us!
I was pretty hyped about Dustborn, and it did not disappoint. And I say that in the way it failed. Had a good laugh at the number of players being in the double digits. Gamers don't want this crap.
That seems to be about the total number of people buying games driven by motives other than making good games. Glad to see them realizing the size of such an audience.
The best thing for devs to do when it comes to satisfying the modern audience is to just make mobile games for them, its cheap and it works within their broke budget
meanwhile, steam charts shown all -time peak of Black Myth: WuKong players was over 2.2 million.
Monarch said "Racers should race, cops should eat donuts !"
I say "Gamers should play real games, woke activists should play concord !! (or dustborn) "
To be honest that player result is still 72 people more than realistically expected, I would consider this as a win.
Considering I’ve never heard of Dustborn until now, it makes sense
Black myth Wukong has a player base over TEN THOUSAND TIMES bigger than Dustborns. Let that sink in 😂😂😂
At least Dustborn has revealed that about 60 players has TDS!
Publishers forgot that they need get people excited to get them to buy their game. Such a simple rule, but it seems to go over their heads.
I saw this on Xbox last night after I got home from work. After a whole day on sale, they only had 4 reviews. That is wild for a release date.
At least we could be glad for DEI games and congratulating their PR departments for finding AND reaching ALL OF THEIR 200 target audience players. 100% target audience reach.
The only people playing are the devs who are proud of the shiny turd they have barfed out.
Well, I'm glad they didn't ruin an existing Franchise and did something separate. The same goes for concord. Those type of games can gladly exist for the "modern audience", as long as they don't interfere with other games.
6:18 they should stop trying to speak for me and others because I don’t have TDS
Sony out here thinking Concord was a good idea instead of thinking of making a F2P LBP game, it would do wonders for them.
Especially considering there was one In development back In 2013 till it was canned, pretty much perfect to make one now but no... Fuckin concord, a game nobody asked for
Some people are saying that some of the people that was playing were journos so the real player base is less.
*Edit: and some gifted codes too.
The thing is Wu kong creators didn’t pull any bias. Thats why people like the game.
The most entertaining thing about dustborn is the reviews roasting it
Read Thread Games: It's been many years in the making, but now we finally present...Dustbin
I had forgotten this game would come out.
That reminds me, tonight's dinner. Should I make that nice oven meal or... ah something healthy yes.