The snare shown in the video appears to be a yd-9000 manufactured between 1984 and the first half of 1985. From the second half of 1985, the name was changed to recording custom, and the design of the hoop and snappy guards changed.
I was curious, thanks. When i ordered my kit there wasnt an option for matching snares. Only steel in the r.c.'s (1991-92) ...been looking for an older r.c. snare since i had several snares when i ordered i just got the steel r.c. 14×5:" i believe, but traded it for a Tama piccolo....opps.
@@lanceschultz7132 There's so many of those metal RC snares out there that you should have no problem finding one if you keep an eye out on eBay and Craigslist. One day!
Thank you to the partner's parents. We wouldn't be able to see this awesome video without your generosity! Part-skim mozzarella. Makes a great all-cheese salad with extra ranch...hold the croutons I'm dieting
I lived in Japan for a long time and these were the house drums at a lot of clubs I played at around Tokyo and that was when I really “got it” as you say. There was just something about them that always sounded perfect and “just right”. They tune super easy too. The only thing that sounded the same were all the Sakae kits that started appearing at all the rehearsal studios. No surprise, those were all made in the same factory in Osaka by the same people who made the Yamahas using the same birch wood from Hokkaido. More recently I’ve noticed The British Drum Company’s birch drums sound very similar. I found out, they use Scandinavian birch. There is something about birch from COLD regions that seems to do the trick. I think the other key factor in the RC sound is the fact that the bearing edge absolutely fits into the curved “pocket” of a modern mylar head perfectly, giving maximum wood resonance while keeping up sustain by not going full vintage round over.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Between that special birch and the bearing edge, you get that perfect combo that just works. I think British Drum Co. has some of the old Premier workers at it, right? I’ll have to see if I can find some of those drums. Also, I just posted a video about a 14x8” Tama Superstar birch snare, and that had the same mojo as the RCs. I keep wondering if Tama sourced their veneer from the same forests as the Sakae factory. If not, then it still has to be Japanese birch-there’s definitely something peculiar about that wood!
These are incredibly well made drums, but between the birch & the bearing edges they were too clinical for my taste. Didn't help that every 9000 kit I ever played had pinstripes on either, like it was a law or something lol. They just all sounded the same to me. Iirc, one of the reasons Japanese & European drum makers used birch instead of maple is cos the USA slapped tariffs on exported maple, making it too expensive. Possibly the same reason why USA drum makers went from mahogany to maple earlier, as the best mahogany came from UK colonies. Speaking of Scandinavian birch, Sonor have been using it for decades. They are really interesting drums, didn't see too many in the UK as they were very expensive, but the ones I did play had tons of character. The Sonorlite range were fun, they made a crazy 7.25" snare, with 12 lugs & a bizarre mechanism, that was a super-loud rock drum but also like an orchestral snare. Never played anything like it tbh, if you ever get the chance to try one do so.
Absolutely gorgeous! I got a set of recording customs in ‘88 cuz all my heros were playing them. Vinnie, Weckl, Omar, and Tony Thompson who had the red ones! Just wish I knew then what I know now about tuning a drum. 😜 I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for RC’s. Thanks for sharing! My favorite cheese is Dubliner. ❤️🥁🤘🏼
Joey, man, isn't it funny how our tuning ability changes the entire way we approach using our drums? I know it's definitely the same sentiment for me. There are more than a few kits that I'd like to have back now in my thirties because I know I'd get WAY different tones out of today. Man, I didn't realize I have so many cheese fanatics on this channel. Y'all are getting into the deep cuts with these varieties. Maybe I need to do food reviews again and tack them on the end of these drum videos. 😂
it's the bearing edges that make these drums sound great, they are rounded ( not sure of the correct name) rather than sharp, awesome channel, thank you
Thanks for the kind words! And yeah, I totally agree on the edge. There is something super magical about the way they cut those. I haven't seen too many drums other drums with quite the same profile. Between that and every other element Yamaha put into these drums, they're stellar!
coincidentally all my top 3 favorite drummers used the Yamaha 9000/ The Recording Custom, thats why its definitely a dream kit for me, specifically a classic one from the 80s-90s. Awesome that you got one in this clean looking finish. Its a Legendary set in Drumming history and they sound incredible.
Yo Tim! Great playing, lovely drums ❤ I have a similar age set of these in black, same sizes you have here plus an 8x8, 10x8, 14x14 and 18x16 floor toms, a 14x7 snare. And a 2005 20x16 bass drum, they’re fantastic drums, like you I had to wait a long time to find them in traditional depths but absolutely worth it. End of last year I bought a 1982 set in the stupid rare Mellow Yellow lacquer, that’s 10x8, 12x8, 14x14 and 20x14, the most awesome little kit in lovely condition. Enjoy the 9000’s! Favourite cheese is halloumi 🎉
Stacy, you are a lucky man. Those kits sound fantastic. And that old yellow finish is so classic. How cool! I've never heard of halloumi. I gotta try that out!!
Those rack toms sound super gnarly. And with that kick, mannnnnnnn... This sound is basically what is set as default in my head for a drum kit. Probably because I had a Yamaha keyboard as a kid and it would seem likely that they would have modeled their drum tones off of their own drums. Appenzeller is my cheese of choice.
Honestly, that's the same thing I think when I hear these drums - they're the quintessential drum sound! Too funny that we had the same thought. I've never had appenzeller, but I'm definitely going to have to find some now. I wonder if the hard texture of the cheese sliced thin would go good with some rice crackers? There's only one way to find out!
Thanks! Yeah, the power tones sound great too, but my shoulders are thankful for the traditional depths on my toms here. 😂😂 This is actually the 5” deep wood snare. It’s got a lot of beef for a short drum, though!
Sounds amazing. I have an 80s Yamaha SD-416 seamless brass and it absolutely rips with a Heavyweight Dry on it. I tried a friend's SD-415 once and that's all she wrote for me. Something about the 80s Yamaha stuff just hits right, eh?
When I was a lad and blown away by Will Calhoun's HEAVY funk, I went looking for that sound. He didn't play Yamahas, but a sales person pointed me to the Recording Customs and whoa! My mom seeing numerous complaints from the neighbors in her future if I got these directed me far, far away from drums, and I have lusted after these ever since.
I dont think i ever saw a matching r.c. snare like that.(red) most were steel.back then anyway... Pretty sweet. I have a 90's r.c. kit. That i ordered in 91 ish. Still in love with them. Im only 2 hrs from u (Near the valley). Cool video . I always stuck with remo pins on it but recently tried a evans eq3 frosted on the b.d. (22×18) holy hell! Its like a whole new drum...fell back in love with it all over again. May switch batters soon.....any suggestions?
Hey! Yeah, that wood snare is so so special. Such a great drum. And with the tom batters, if you're into more of a mid- and low end-heavy sound, I really like the Evans Onyx top and bottom. But if you're looking for something like a Pinstripe, but just more modern, you should definitely try the Evans EC2S Frosted heads on top. They're awesome!
Yamaha dollar for dollar makes the best drums and hardware on the planet, looks like all's you need now is the 600 or 700 series hardware pack and you're golden. I still have my old RC's from when I switched from being a Ludwig fanatic, I now have an Absolute Hybrid Maple Kit which is insanely good. My go to for touring lately is the newer Stage Custom all Birch drums, which are also killer sounding live and in the studio, and you can get all the add on toms for pretty cheap too. Like I said dollar for dollar the best in the business.
Dream kit right there - they made a Cobalt Blue finish and that's definitely something I'm on the search for. It's hard to find these that aren't power tom depth either. Also pecorino
Dude, I loved the look of the Cobalt Blue finish on the old Turbo Tour Customs. The power toms and that blue hue just looked ready to rock! I loved the yellow finish they did during that era too. It was a little more electric than the Tony Williams yellow we see often. With pecorino, I feel like you HAVE to have it with a fresh slice of bread. We've got a great Italian bakery in town here called Paielli's, and I think they're plain white Italian bread (made same day, of course) would just be killer with that cheese.
It’s true. I got mine 34 years ago. Lol. I tried two other Yamaha sets in the early 2000s, but there really was no need to ever move on from the RCs. Same with the 80s snares. 493, 496, 296, 096, Peter Erskine, Maple Custom. Owned them all and still have some. All fantastic.
Cool playing, man! 👍 I think Yamaha calling them recording custom is all just a bit of marketing. Zildjian did the same with their "special recording hi hats". I tend to ignore the labels, like Metal Crash. I can only use it for metal? Or, "Left Side Ride". Can I not play it on the right hand side?
lol 100%. I totally agree. Good drums are good drums - period. But I will say that under microphones, these markedly sound different than a lot of other drums I've used. And even having played for nearly 20 years now, I got excited when I heard that difference. And it takes A LOT to get me excited about drum stuff now-a-days!
WELCOME BACK TO TIMBOS TIMELESS TIMBERS! (insert shameless plug for DW Timeless Timber series drums) All jokes aside, Recording Custom drums are definitely a thing of beauty. I remember when I had my short DMB phase in 2001 and I couldn't get enough of Carter Beauford. He played these amazing drums.
Fantastic kit! They’re legends for a reason. If anybody is looking for a sonically similar but more accessibly priced/available cool 80s kit, check out early-mid 80s Tama Superstars. You can find 4 pieces for under $1500 (sometimes under $1k). Guys like Stewart Copeland and Neil Peart were using them back in the day
Nice set! Drums sound like drums, truth! I have an 86 RC set in quartz grey, they are awesome drums. They have a more modern sound to me, compared to the pre 80's drums I have. Great playing man!
Thanks Shawn! Man, truly, I have never heard anything quite like this Recording Custom...but that comes from a nerd who has been playing drums for almost two decades. hahaha Folks like you and I can discern the difference between different drum kits, but so often, I try to center myself in what the final casual music listener is going to hear...drums...that sound like drums. 😂
Ohhh good thud on those bad boyz! I like the fact that the kick is a classic 14" depth. So many kits from the 90s went off the deep end in my opinion. What kind of cracker would you use for a good ol potluck cheese ball?!
Oh man, I totally agree on kick depths. Classic just makes so much more sense under mics. And when you go even shorter, you can get some interesting tonal effects. 22" and 24" diameter, 12" depth kicks are some of my all time favorite recorded kick tones. So so good. Great combination of punch and low-end. Dude, the CHEESEBALL? You gotta go with the assortment pack of Toasteds plus some Ritz. And you're gonna need all those crackers to get through that puppy! hahahahaha
Give it ten years. I think the vintage drum market will likely crash (and probably start doing so as soon as five years from now), and that'll give us all a chance to own some dream drums! : )
Do you do the "Derek" treatment (bearing edges) on all your drum kits or just specific one's (like the olive green) when you are looking for a certain sound?
It depends! If it’s something I wanna play a lot, I take it to Derek. Even truing the bearing edges back to their original shape just makes it so much easier to tune the drums and to get the best sound out of them. If you see my video on 70s Ludwigs, that’s where the Derek treatment is more of a restoration than a hot-rodding process.
If these were the be all and end all in Studios back then why aren't they still? I mean what took over from them what knocked them from their place? What's the nearest thing to them these days…? (Mines a Cheddar please!)
It's a good question. I think folks might not be crazy about the finishes (as vane as that sounds). They were often in just plain color lacquers - black, gray, red, white, etc. They didn't do crazy finishes on them for the most part. And today, folks are often going straight to vintage Camco, Rogers, and Ludwig more than anything else (if they're using vintage). And then you have modern drum enthusiasts using super boutique drums or whatever else. To answer both questions succinctly, there's just too many drums now. lol You can pick almost anything high-end or vintage and it's going to sound good. There is no one go-to anymore, but I will say that this set sounds EXCEPTIONAL compared to just about anything else I've played in the recent past. (For your cheddar, go with a classic Ritz cracker. Live life!)
IMO Yamaha was the only thing stopping Yamaha. They parted ways with the people in the facility in Japan who made them. They did what corporations do - systematically fxck up things that shouldn’t have been touched. Yamaha is a corporation selling personal watercraft and motorcycles. While there is likely more to the story, corporations make decisions based on what spreadsheets tell them. Nothing more, nothing less. Who cares what the customers are saying? You’re either an expense or you’re not. Like the channel owner says that coincided with the rise in boutique stuff and re-emergence of Gretsch and others.
I got a really good deal on these, but I had to pick them up in New Jersey (and I live north of Chicago). I just got lucky. But I'd probably try to get four pieces for under $2,500 USD.
Gorgeous drums! One day I too shall have to get me some! Pepper jack when I'm spicy; cheddar when I'm saucy Edit: I mean who doesn't want to get their Gadd on?
Thanks Pete! You gotta find yourself one of these kits some day. They're so so so so fun to play. And if you find yourself north of Chicago, you're more than welcome to come and try these! I love pepper jack with eggs, but I'll bet you could pop that on a Triscuit and it'd be fantastic!
@@timbofromkenogood call on the Triscuits! I'm back because I still get the urge to get one of these kits on a routine basis 😅 Sidenote: I didn't realize RUclips wasn't showing me notifications on replies to comments (rude) - I found out you had replied to a lot of my comments so thanks!
I love watching his videos on RUclips because I get to see him lay into these drums. One of my favorite moments is watching him in the Buddy Rich tribute concert. Dude is a beast! And you're not the first person to say havarti! Another guy mentioned dill havarti, which got my mouth watering. hahaha Triscuit is the only choice, man. hahaha
I sold my DW 6 piece to Music go Round in Milwaukee/ greenfield,WI 🥹🙏🏽 sad I had to sell em…saw them back at the store then they sold it again… wish I knew who bought I’d buy em back if I knew who had em now
The snare shown in the video appears to be a yd-9000 manufactured between 1984 and the first half of 1985.
From the second half of 1985, the name was changed to recording custom, and the design of the hoop and snappy guards changed.
Thanks for the insight! : )
I was curious, thanks. When i ordered my kit there wasnt an option for matching snares. Only steel in the r.c.'s (1991-92) ...been looking for an older r.c. snare since i had several snares when i ordered i just got the steel r.c. 14×5:" i believe, but traded it for a Tama piccolo....opps.
@@lanceschultz7132 There's so many of those metal RC snares out there that you should have no problem finding one if you keep an eye out on eBay and Craigslist. One day!
Thank you to the partner's parents. We wouldn't be able to see this awesome video without your generosity! Part-skim mozzarella. Makes a great all-cheese salad with extra ranch...hold the croutons I'm dieting
hahaha YES!
All-cheese salad sounds amazing! hahahaha
Wow, making me nostalgic for my old Recording Customs! Nicely done!!
Thanks!! 😁👊
Tim, I can tell that these drums inspire you, that was some of your best playing. Queso Blanco. Aiiiyeeee!!!
Thanks dude. I truly appreciate the kind words!!
I lived in Japan for a long time and these were the house drums at a lot of clubs I played at around Tokyo and that was when I really “got it” as you say. There was just something about them that always sounded perfect and “just right”. They tune super easy too. The only thing that sounded the same were all the Sakae kits that started appearing at all the rehearsal studios. No surprise, those were all made in the same factory in Osaka by the same people who made the Yamahas using the same birch wood from Hokkaido. More recently I’ve noticed The British Drum Company’s birch drums sound very similar. I found out, they use Scandinavian birch. There is something about birch from COLD regions that seems to do the trick. I think the other key factor in the RC sound is the fact that the bearing edge absolutely fits into the curved “pocket” of a modern mylar head perfectly, giving maximum wood resonance while keeping up sustain by not going full vintage round over.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Between that special birch and the bearing edge, you get that perfect combo that just works. I think British Drum Co. has some of the old Premier workers at it, right? I’ll have to see if I can find some of those drums.
Also, I just posted a video about a 14x8” Tama Superstar birch snare, and that had the same mojo as the RCs. I keep wondering if Tama sourced their veneer from the same forests as the Sakae factory. If not, then it still has to be Japanese birch-there’s definitely something peculiar about that wood!
These are incredibly well made drums, but between the birch & the bearing edges they were too clinical for my taste. Didn't help that every 9000 kit I ever played had pinstripes on either, like it was a law or something lol. They just all sounded the same to me.
Iirc, one of the reasons Japanese & European drum makers used birch instead of maple is cos the USA slapped tariffs on exported maple, making it too expensive. Possibly the same reason why USA drum makers went from mahogany to maple earlier, as the best mahogany came from UK colonies.
Speaking of Scandinavian birch, Sonor have been using it for decades. They are really interesting drums, didn't see too many in the UK as they were very expensive, but the ones I did play had tons of character. The Sonorlite range were fun, they made a crazy 7.25" snare, with 12 lugs & a bizarre mechanism, that was a super-loud rock drum but also like an orchestral snare. Never played anything like it tbh, if you ever get the chance to try one do so.
Absolutely gorgeous! I got a set of recording customs in ‘88 cuz all my heros were playing them. Vinnie, Weckl, Omar, and Tony Thompson who had the red ones! Just wish I knew then what I know now about tuning a drum. 😜 I’ll always have a soft spot in my heart for RC’s. Thanks for sharing! My favorite cheese is Dubliner. ❤️🥁🤘🏼
Joey, man, isn't it funny how our tuning ability changes the entire way we approach using our drums? I know it's definitely the same sentiment for me. There are more than a few kits that I'd like to have back now in my thirties because I know I'd get WAY different tones out of today.
Man, I didn't realize I have so many cheese fanatics on this channel. Y'all are getting into the deep cuts with these varieties. Maybe I need to do food reviews again and tack them on the end of these drum videos. 😂
That kick is PERFECT...
Right? Unbelievable tone out of these tubs!!
it's the bearing edges that make these drums sound great, they are rounded ( not sure of the correct name) rather than sharp, awesome channel, thank you
Thanks for the kind words! And yeah, I totally agree on the edge. There is something super magical about the way they cut those. I haven't seen too many drums other drums with quite the same profile. Between that and every other element Yamaha put into these drums, they're stellar!
If a set ever comes my way I will try my best to grab them. I would love a set like this, one day eh :)
I never put two and two together with your channel’s name, until you mentioned Kenosha.
Small world. My dad is a music professor at UWP.
No kidding? That is a small world. I took a lesson with Dave Bayles over there just over a decade ago!
@@timbofromkeno: Craziness!
had one of these in the late 80's... in piano black. what a lovely looking and sounding kit. RCs are legends for a good reason!
They’re truly magical. There’s nothing that does what they do. Very happy to have spent time with this one!
I love that you talk about cool gear, but no matter the topic, your persona and energy just make me smile the entire video! Please keep it that way :)
Thanks Tobias. That means a lot! 😁👊
coincidentally all my top 3 favorite drummers used the Yamaha 9000/ The Recording Custom, thats why its definitely a dream kit for me, specifically a classic one from the 80s-90s. Awesome that you got one in this clean looking finish. Its a Legendary set in Drumming history and they sound incredible.
Thanks Ben. I hope you find one in the future too. I think they're worth every penny - such amazing drums!
@@timbofromkeno yes definitely, I hope so too thanks 🤝
One of my dream drum sets 🤟🏼
They're so good!
I have this kit in cherry wood plus matching 14x8 snare.Hands down the best sounding kit I’ve ever played. Thanks for the vid dude-awesome!
Truly wonderful drums. And I’ll bet that 14x8 is killer!!
@@timbofromkeno Monstrous!
They sound great and so do you. I have an '89 setup I'm looking at. Serials start w/ PX so according to Yamaha they were made in 1989. In Taiwan.
Thanks for the kind words, Mike. I’ll bet that kit from ‘89 is pretty rad!
Yo Tim! Great playing, lovely drums ❤
I have a similar age set of these in black, same sizes you have here plus an 8x8, 10x8, 14x14 and 18x16 floor toms, a 14x7 snare. And a 2005 20x16 bass drum, they’re fantastic drums, like you I had to wait a long time to find them in traditional depths but absolutely worth it.
End of last year I bought a 1982 set in the stupid rare Mellow Yellow lacquer, that’s 10x8, 12x8, 14x14 and 20x14, the most awesome little kit in lovely condition. Enjoy the 9000’s!
Favourite cheese is halloumi 🎉
Stacy, you are a lucky man. Those kits sound fantastic. And that old yellow finish is so classic. How cool!
I've never heard of halloumi. I gotta try that out!!
i love you papa timbo, cant wait for more content
hahaha Thanks Jace! Back in the day, in the metal music scene around Milwaukee and Chicago, people used to call me Papa Timbo! 😂
Those rack toms sound super gnarly. And with that kick, mannnnnnnn...
This sound is basically what is set as default in my head for a drum kit. Probably because I had a Yamaha keyboard as a kid and it would seem likely that they would have modeled their drum tones off of their own drums.
Appenzeller is my cheese of choice.
Honestly, that's the same thing I think when I hear these drums - they're the quintessential drum sound! Too funny that we had the same thought.
I've never had appenzeller, but I'm definitely going to have to find some now. I wonder if the hard texture of the cheese sliced thin would go good with some rice crackers? There's only one way to find out!
Sounds great Tim!! I have much newer birch Yamaha and they are amazing. Would love to sit behind one of those legendary recording customs tho
Thanks dude! The newer stuff is great too. I love the thin "Absolute" shells they did for a while too. So so good!
Killer. Nice to find the non-power size 12 and 13. Though the powers are great too. Is that the SD 096? Those are ridiculously good.
Thanks! Yeah, the power tones sound great too, but my shoulders are thankful for the traditional depths on my toms here. 😂😂
This is actually the 5” deep wood snare. It’s got a lot of beef for a short drum, though!
Sounds amazing. I have an 80s Yamaha SD-416 seamless brass and it absolutely rips with a Heavyweight Dry on it. I tried a friend's SD-415 once and that's all she wrote for me. Something about the 80s Yamaha stuff just hits right, eh?
100%. Everything they made during that time was just beyond amazing. What great instruments!
When I was a lad and blown away by Will Calhoun's HEAVY funk, I went looking for that sound.
He didn't play Yamahas, but a sales person pointed me to the Recording Customs and whoa!
My mom seeing numerous complaints from the neighbors in her future if I got these directed me far, far away from drums, and I have lusted after these ever since.
One day, you'll have to get one of these kits. You can definitely get Will's sound, especially if you can get a power tom kit!!
The sound of Yamaha Recording drums represents the sound that every drum should have.
Truly!!
Kit sounds great. Playing is stellar. The way you show case all the drums. So cool.
Thanks so much! I have a lot of fun with these little videos. More to come! : )
I dont think i ever saw a matching r.c. snare like that.(red) most were steel.back then anyway... Pretty sweet. I have a 90's r.c. kit. That i ordered in 91 ish. Still in love with them. Im only 2 hrs from u (Near the valley). Cool video . I always stuck with remo pins on it but recently tried a evans eq3 frosted on the b.d. (22×18) holy hell! Its like a whole new drum...fell back in love with it all over again. May switch batters soon.....any suggestions?
Hey! Yeah, that wood snare is so so special. Such a great drum.
And with the tom batters, if you're into more of a mid- and low end-heavy sound, I really like the Evans Onyx top and bottom. But if you're looking for something like a Pinstripe, but just more modern, you should definitely try the Evans EC2S Frosted heads on top. They're awesome!
Timbo! Sounds amazing, congrats on landing your white whale. Love the sound of birch and you really do them justice. Keep swinging them oars
Thanks John!! 😁👊
Remo Pinstripe batter and emperor coated nice to use on these drums. Easy to tune , incomparable sound
I'm pretty sure this kit came with clear Pinstripes on the toms, and they sounded great!
Yamaha dollar for dollar makes the best drums and hardware on the planet, looks like all's you need now is the 600 or 700 series hardware pack and you're golden. I still have my old RC's from when I switched from being a Ludwig fanatic, I now have an Absolute Hybrid Maple Kit which is insanely good. My go to for touring lately is the newer Stage Custom all Birch drums, which are also killer sounding live and in the studio, and you can get all the add on toms for pretty cheap too. Like I said dollar for dollar the best in the business.
I have to agree with you there, particularly on the Stage Custom kits. They're hard to beat!
@@timbofromkeno Great to beat on though😆
@@Mike-ol7xp LOL
Dream kit right there - they made a Cobalt Blue finish and that's definitely something I'm on the search for. It's hard to find these that aren't power tom depth either. Also pecorino
Dude, I loved the look of the Cobalt Blue finish on the old Turbo Tour Customs. The power toms and that blue hue just looked ready to rock! I loved the yellow finish they did during that era too. It was a little more electric than the Tony Williams yellow we see often.
With pecorino, I feel like you HAVE to have it with a fresh slice of bread. We've got a great Italian bakery in town here called Paielli's, and I think they're plain white Italian bread (made same day, of course) would just be killer with that cheese.
@@timbofromkeno Timbo you never disappoint!
Yamaha Recording custom made in Japan are the best drums ever made in my opinion. I own one and Love it.
I’m inclined to agree with you!! Haha
Me too: 18 BD, 10, 12 birch. And same config with the beech custom from same era.
@@caferrara Nice!
It’s true. I got mine 34 years ago. Lol. I tried two other Yamaha sets in the early 2000s, but there really was no need to ever move on from the RCs. Same with the 80s snares. 493, 496, 296, 096, Peter Erskine, Maple Custom. Owned them all and still have some. All fantastic.
@@Twotontessie Truly wonderful drums. Now I just need to find one in my preferred sizes - 20-12-14! lol
Cool playing, man! 👍 I think Yamaha calling them recording custom is all just a bit of marketing. Zildjian did the same with their "special recording hi hats". I tend to ignore the labels, like Metal Crash. I can only use it for metal? Or, "Left Side Ride". Can I not play it on the right hand side?
lol 100%. I totally agree. Good drums are good drums - period. But I will say that under microphones, these markedly sound different than a lot of other drums I've used. And even having played for nearly 20 years now, I got excited when I heard that difference. And it takes A LOT to get me excited about drum stuff now-a-days!
WELCOME BACK TO TIMBOS TIMELESS TIMBERS! (insert shameless plug for DW Timeless Timber series drums)
All jokes aside, Recording Custom drums are definitely a thing of beauty. I remember when I had my short DMB phase in 2001 and I couldn't get enough of Carter Beauford. He played these amazing drums.
Hahahaha Yes! I'm actually doing a DW Crav snare soon!!
Fantastic kit! They’re legends for a reason.
If anybody is looking for a sonically similar but more accessibly priced/available cool 80s kit, check out early-mid 80s Tama Superstars. You can find 4 pieces for under $1500 (sometimes under $1k). Guys like Stewart Copeland and Neil Peart were using them back in the day
I have yet to try a set of those under mics, but I will definitely try to make it happen on this channel soon! : )
I remember hearing this snare in a drumeo video with Mark Kelso...the best sounding snare of all their videos imo
Truly, it is one of the most wonderful sounding snare drums I've ever played!
Nice set! Drums sound like drums, truth! I have an 86 RC set in quartz grey, they are awesome drums. They have a more modern sound to me, compared to the pre 80's drums I have. Great playing man!
Thanks Shawn! Man, truly, I have never heard anything quite like this Recording Custom...but that comes from a nerd who has been playing drums for almost two decades. hahaha
Folks like you and I can discern the difference between different drum kits, but so often, I try to center myself in what the final casual music listener is going to hear...drums...that sound like drums. 😂
Ohhh good thud on those bad boyz! I like the fact that the kick is a classic 14" depth. So many kits from the 90s went off the deep end in my opinion.
What kind of cracker would you use for a good ol potluck cheese ball?!
Oh man, I totally agree on kick depths. Classic just makes so much more sense under mics. And when you go even shorter, you can get some interesting tonal effects. 22" and 24" diameter, 12" depth kicks are some of my all time favorite recorded kick tones. So so good. Great combination of punch and low-end.
Dude, the CHEESEBALL? You gotta go with the assortment pack of Toasteds plus some Ritz. And you're gonna need all those crackers to get through that puppy! hahahahaha
Great video. If only we could afford them.
Give it ten years. I think the vintage drum market will likely crash (and probably start doing so as soon as five years from now), and that'll give us all a chance to own some dream drums! : )
Do you do the "Derek" treatment (bearing edges) on all your drum kits or just specific one's (like the olive green) when you are looking for a certain sound?
It depends! If it’s something I wanna play a lot, I take it to Derek. Even truing the bearing edges back to their original shape just makes it so much easier to tune the drums and to get the best sound out of them. If you see my video on 70s Ludwigs, that’s where the Derek treatment is more of a restoration than a hot-rodding process.
@@timbofromkeno thanks for the reply, great content btw 👍🏼👏🏻; Always been a big fan of the 8000/9000 yamaha's
@@kspocketngroove3973 Thanks so much! And man, those old Japanese Yamaha Drums are so so so good-all of ‘em!
If these were the be all and end all in Studios back then why aren't they still? I mean what took over from them what knocked them from their place?
What's the nearest thing to them these days…?
(Mines a Cheddar please!)
It's a good question. I think folks might not be crazy about the finishes (as vane as that sounds). They were often in just plain color lacquers - black, gray, red, white, etc. They didn't do crazy finishes on them for the most part.
And today, folks are often going straight to vintage Camco, Rogers, and Ludwig more than anything else (if they're using vintage). And then you have modern drum enthusiasts using super boutique drums or whatever else.
To answer both questions succinctly, there's just too many drums now. lol You can pick almost anything high-end or vintage and it's going to sound good. There is no one go-to anymore, but I will say that this set sounds EXCEPTIONAL compared to just about anything else I've played in the recent past.
(For your cheddar, go with a classic Ritz cracker. Live life!)
IMO Yamaha was the only thing stopping Yamaha. They parted ways with the people in the facility in Japan who made them. They did what corporations do - systematically fxck up things that shouldn’t have been touched. Yamaha is a corporation selling personal watercraft and motorcycles. While there is likely more to the story, corporations make decisions based on what spreadsheets tell them. Nothing more, nothing less. Who cares what the customers are saying? You’re either an expense or you’re not.
Like the channel owner says that coincided with the rise in boutique stuff and re-emergence of Gretsch and others.
@@timbofromkeno thank you for your answers 😋
@@Twotontessie
How sad BUT how true…
Do a vid with higher tuning. They sound amazing higher up.
That's a great idea. Let's see what I can cook up!
I think it’s true they like the bottom heads relatively tight IMO on the ride toms and bass drum.
I love my 1984 9000/RC Yamaha 14” x 8” snare drum. There is a long story with that snare but I’m just glad I have it. NEVER selling it!
Yeah baby!!
Tell us the story we have time!
I'm curious what price range would be considered reasonable on these sets today?
I got a really good deal on these, but I had to pick them up in New Jersey (and I live north of Chicago). I just got lucky. But I'd probably try to get four pieces for under $2,500 USD.
Yeah, buddy! MIJ Recording Customs and 421's together is like 1970's Gadd and cocaine...it just works. Oh - dill havarti!
Oh my! hahahaha
Dill havarti sounds so good right now - man oh man! That'd go good with a Triscuit for sure!
Gorgeous drums! One day I too shall have to get me some! Pepper jack when I'm spicy; cheddar when I'm saucy
Edit: I mean who doesn't want to get their Gadd on?
Thanks Pete! You gotta find yourself one of these kits some day. They're so so so so fun to play. And if you find yourself north of Chicago, you're more than welcome to come and try these!
I love pepper jack with eggs, but I'll bet you could pop that on a Triscuit and it'd be fantastic!
@@timbofromkenogood call on the Triscuits! I'm back because I still get the urge to get one of these kits on a routine basis 😅
Sidenote: I didn't realize RUclips wasn't showing me notifications on replies to comments (rude) - I found out you had replied to a lot of my comments so thanks!
Favorite Gadd recording with these drums? Annnnd havarti
I love watching his videos on RUclips because I get to see him lay into these drums. One of my favorite moments is watching him in the Buddy Rich tribute concert. Dude is a beast!
And you're not the first person to say havarti! Another guy mentioned dill havarti, which got my mouth watering. hahaha Triscuit is the only choice, man. hahaha
my favorite cheese is fromunda
omg hahahahaha
Wanted these ever simce I saw Wayne's World
That was the first time I saw them too!!
I sold my DW 6 piece to Music go Round in Milwaukee/ greenfield,WI 🥹🙏🏽 sad I had to sell em…saw them back at the store then they sold it again… wish I knew who bought I’d buy em back if I knew who had em now
I totally understand. I’ve been in the same situation before! I hope you’re able to find another kit to love soon!!