Podcast #8 ~ Dealing With Disasters & Insurance

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  • Опубликовано: 18 апр 2019
  • So far in the Skill Builder podcast, we have talked about how wonderful and clever Roger and Robin are so it’s time to embrace the power of vulnerability. In episode 8 the guys talk about their worst building nightmares coming true in jobs that didn’t go according to plan. The two Rs also have a bit of a spat over Crossrail, the Millennium Dome and going over time and budget.
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Комментарии • 161

  • @BarryFrancis
    @BarryFrancis 3 года назад +23

    At 32:31 Roger mentioned Sir Peter Bazalgette with regards to building the London sewers, it was actually Sir Joseph Bazalgette who built the sewers. Sir Peter Bazalgette is Sir Joseph's Great Great Grandson and a television producer who is famously responsible for bringing us Big Brother. In fact on an edition of QI Stephen Fry once remarked that Sir Joseph Bazalgette was responsible for pumping shit out of our homes and because of Big Brother Sir Peter Bazalgette was responsible for pumping shit into our homes.

  • @sidewodja
    @sidewodja 5 лет назад +35

    Took two brand new wooden garage doors on the van roof to a very wealthy client. Arrived at the site fitted the left hand door then ask the labourer to go get the other one. "What other one" was his answer.
    Driving home we spotted it on the side of the duel carragway completely destroyed.
    Very very lucky no one was killed...

    • @sidewodja
      @sidewodja 3 года назад

      @@pauljulian1382 and this relates to my comment how?

  • @Leon-cq2ry
    @Leon-cq2ry 5 лет назад +33

    Look forward to these could listen to you 2 talk for hours

    • @typhoontim125
      @typhoontim125 4 года назад +3

      Same here...two rock solid guys. Who's the idiot who hit the dislike button?

    • @derekmassam1755
      @derekmassam1755 2 года назад +1

      I agree, they're very interesting and friendly with it.

    • @rajivvashm6046
      @rajivvashm6046 Год назад

      ..... I could watch these guys and their stories all day :) -- alwight Rob.. make sure you come east X-Rail is up now

  • @robertbethell
    @robertbethell 3 года назад +3

    I was asked to put up a shelf on a kitchen window lintel - drilled straight through a gas pipe! Made me feel better listening to your disasters - thanks!

  • @DMJ1978
    @DMJ1978 5 лет назад +10

    The window thing; one thing I learned quick as an apprentice was, that the guy who measures makes the order. If possible let the window manufacturer measure themselves, so they have the liability. Too many cooks and all that. Seen way to many wrong size windows/doors after 6-12 weeks arrive to ever want to risk it myself.

  • @HackerReportBFH
    @HackerReportBFH 5 лет назад +10

    I love people that work for themselves and take it seriously. When things go wrong we feel terrible and remember it forever like it was yesterday so we won't do it again. I have one: The electrician and apprentice put 460V to a 230V industrial control panel. It was my job to install the machine and make sure it works; so as the electrician got close I ask them if they knew all the electrical requirements and pointed to the tag that said 230V. I told them I'd be there if they had questions. They finished up and disappeared. Next thing I did was say to myself, "I should go get my meter and check it". But I thought surely they got it right and that I had never seen it be wrong on any job (even though I checked them all). So I switch the power on, then noise and smoke. Ruined $7K worth of components, plus the labor to replace them. I feel like I gave the electricians multiple chances to verify their work, but I am the last line of defense in that scenario so it's my job to not let it happen. Customer ate the cost of new components. I replaced them at my expense over 2 days. Electrical company says customer gave them the wrong specs. Customer says he thought salesperson said it would be 460V. No matter who they blame, I still feel awful for telling myself "it's not necessary to check it". And just so it's not all negative thoughts - think about if I would have caught it, what a hero I'd have been. That would have been cool.

    • @TheBrick2
      @TheBrick2 3 года назад +1

      We had a local site electrician tell us there was no problem when their supply had a floating neutral and had destroyed several £k of equipment. This same site also ran all machines with safety switches bypassed, gear guarding removed, no dust extraction. This was in 2019!

  • @morganplatt6762
    @morganplatt6762 5 лет назад +10

    Christ! After listening to this, I'm giving up plumbing and heating and going to work at Aldi!

  • @Chanesmyname
    @Chanesmyname 5 лет назад +6

    I always ask for liability insurance; the roofer we had told us in all the years he'd worked we were the first to ask to see it! I didn't know house insurance took the lead though, interesting and probably why liability insurance isn't so expensive?

  • @ralphsterz2889
    @ralphsterz2889 5 лет назад +9

    Told my insurance company about a loft conversion being carried out
    They suspended my cover until completion of work!

  • @joeframer9642
    @joeframer9642 5 лет назад +9

    Love the podcasts..... Never used my liability ins. I have paid out of pocket for a mistake when I was young 18...my first deck I screwed the decking upside down on the joists...had to take all the decking off, pay for new material and put it on correctly....lost my ass..never happened again.

  • @mikesmith1485
    @mikesmith1485 Год назад +1

    "Two-hour lunch breaks over in France"....the lunch-pack of Notre Dame. Great vid as always, boys.

  • @worldadventureman
    @worldadventureman 5 лет назад +5

    That is the scariest thing just hearing about that water main in the flat. I can't remember any really bad disasters. I had a friend who did a reno on a kitchen and was putting the final touches to the wood floors , he threw one of the last clean up rags in their rubbish bin which had a plastic liner in it. He left and the chemicals in the cleaning product on his rag reacted with the plastic and caught on fire and gutted the kitchen. I do remember one commercial building that I think I was using a grinder up on a scaffold. A spark caught in the insulation and with the noise and my googles I didn't see it till it was making a lot of smoke. It was that foil faced fibreglass insulation and there were little smouldering's that you couldn't see behind the foil. I finally got it put out but there was a lot of smoke in the building and I had a horrible 30 mins waiting to make sure the sprinklers didn't go off.
    Oh btw nice podcast. I especially liked all the birds tweeting away in the background. :)

    • @johndaniells4440
      @johndaniells4440 5 лет назад +1

      The rag in the bin liner, that's so unlucky. Wouldn't have pre-empted that one in a million years.

  • @SuperBoycie123
    @SuperBoycie123 5 лет назад +3

    Very interesting talk! I was once asked by a letting agent to repaint a bedroom in a house I had done a lot of work in previously, directly for the home owner who was now abroad. They asked me to paint the “blue” bedroom mag and so I did exactly that. Got a call the next day to say that I had painted the wrong room. The room I should have painted was floral paper with a minor amount of blue throughout. The room I had painted was completely blue! Tried blaming me with little luck!

  • @nicholasbrekespere3616
    @nicholasbrekespere3616 2 года назад

    We working making ponds and many are the tales of the inexperienced (land owners and groundsworkers) doing desilting jobs renting big machines and charging in without digging out enough of the sludge down to a firm layer... if you get the machines in deep enough it's big money when the electrics go pop. Risk averse is good, I really appreciate you freely sharing your experiences. The gems in this one for me were All Risks insurance definately checking that out and the householders insurance taking precedence. And Robin talking about the positive impression detailed schedules and presentation of risk assessments make... good to remember that the unsexy part of the jobs is what gets the sexy jobs in.

  • @SteS
    @SteS 4 года назад +1

    I'm an Architectural Technician and when I was in my 2nd year out of college on the job (14 or so years ago) I was handed my first housing estate. 100+ odd houses. Was given it after it had been granted planning and never clapped eyes on it. Looked on the server for all the latest files and the hardcopy files and started drawing up the plans for the construction phase. Few months past and all going well, well chuffed. *Until,* the neighbour adjoining 8 houses of the estate flagged up an overlooking issue. Those 8 houses were suppose to have 45 deg windows facing away from their house and back garden. The drawings I got on the server were the plans submitted and not the granted ones with none of the amendments done since. After this I created an office protocol for how the folders were organised for every stage from design right up to tender and construction so that would never happen again as before it was a mess. It was my bosses liability insurance covered that. Wasn't let go because of that touch wood but was during the recession couple years after 😂

  • @CP-du3ci
    @CP-du3ci 5 лет назад +3

    Interesting talk guys, just a note on the PL insurance. With what you say about the householders insurance taking presidence then even if a contractor doesn't have insurance the household will be covered. It may be the insurance company then pursues the individual contractor for their liability rather than their PL insurer which could mean bankruptcy of course

  • @TheTraditionalGolfer
    @TheTraditionalGolfer 5 лет назад +6

    Had a couple nothing serious but one that stands out is we was finishing a refurb job for a lovely older lady we had done alot of work for....part of the build was an extension and bathroom refurb it was hand over day and i was putting the last few fixtures and fittings in the bathroom!!! One being a handle for the client to grab so she could pull herself up out of this lovely new Jacuzzi bath....I was drilling 2 holes through the tiles while sat in the bath and I'm just popping the plugs in the holes ready to fix it in place when i smelt burning plastic!!!! I looked down to see the tile bit in the end of the drill had burnt a lovely hole straight through the middle of the bath. Lucky enough for me we rang a plastic surgeon up who came out did a perfect repair job for a couple of hundred quid and you couldn't even see where it had happened we handed over with nobody any the wiser...I did feel terrible about it at the time though.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +5

      Those repair guys are worth their hire when things go wrong.

  • @samuelbeckett485
    @samuelbeckett485 5 лет назад +1

    Brilliant👍🏻 love these podcasts

  • @bengoymer5702
    @bengoymer5702 5 лет назад +2

    Keep up the good really enjoying the podcasts and the Chanel at the minute

  • @domo1500
    @domo1500 2 года назад

    Core drilling through a wall in a basement at Baker Street, we went through a Gas pipe that was built into a partition wall. The Fire Brigade had to be called out and they had to smash through the pavement lights to release the gas. We also emptied Baker Street Tube Station for 9 hours…..that was an expensive day, scan your walls before drilling! 🤠

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  2 года назад +1

      Wow! What a tale. Ithink I woud have retired that day

  • @abdulrahiman812
    @abdulrahiman812 5 лет назад

    Great Video Roger and Robin, I do look forward to your Friday podcasts.
    Keep up the good work guys👍🏽

  • @bruceb1433
    @bruceb1433 3 года назад

    Enjoyed your discussion. Good to hear a back-and-forth of reasoned perspectives. I put a lot of the onus of managing budgets on the project manager. Contractors will try to underbid each other to get the job and then run over. The pm’s job is to know where the various bids come up short, resulting in additional costs. Force the competitive bids to account for these missing tasks is the responsibility of the project manager

  • @gerryb8274
    @gerryb8274 4 года назад

    These podcast's are great so much information Keep em coming Please !!

  • @stevehubner560
    @stevehubner560 5 лет назад +2

    Great show great content made me shudder a few times , i have had some close calls myself through the years!

  • @MrJFoster1984
    @MrJFoster1984 5 лет назад +2

    Hot works permit, spotter watching for a fire, extinguisher on hand, hose on hand. No smoking on the job. Interesting chat lads 👌

  • @jimbrown8399
    @jimbrown8399 5 лет назад +1

    There is a Service over here in Australia. "Dial before you dig" it saves any unforeseen Disasters if you Dig Blind.

  • @Iazzaboyce
    @Iazzaboyce 5 лет назад +14

    "What I should have done is got my hammer and flattened the pipe"...."Never admit liability"

  • @greeneboi123
    @greeneboi123 5 лет назад +4

    Love your videos can honestly say I always look forward to watching you both. The joke at the end tickled me 😂

  • @26bond
    @26bond 3 года назад +1

    I know sod all about the building game, but find myself watching all of these guys videos. Excellent stuff, very inspiring.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +3

      Well you will know quite a bit by the time you have finished but don't be tempted to try and make a living out of it, that is where the fun stops.

  • @scoobydo2
    @scoobydo2 5 лет назад +1

    We never "Quote" for private work, we always "Estimate". There is a big difference in the two, one is fixed and one is not and the customer is made fully aware and most if not all are understanding. An estimate covers us for small variations or unknowns during the work. Clearly any additional work not specified in the original invoice is cleared with the customer and invoiced accordingly. Great Podcast yet again :-)

    • @ukconstruction
      @ukconstruction 5 лет назад

      Really good point. My late grandma taught me the difference between an estimate and a quotation when she helped with my paperwork back when I started out in 1988!! Very helpful comment!

  • @woodbassguitars
    @woodbassguitars 5 лет назад +1

    Interesting about pricing, I had a company build a new house and renovate an existing one in north London. There price was not cheap but every aspect of the job was on a spreadsheet showing times of each stage. There was one variation in the price when a footing had to go deeper because of a tree otherwise they came in at the price quoted to the penny. It just shows it can be done .

  • @davidwhitefoot5680
    @davidwhitefoot5680 5 лет назад +2

    keep them coming!!

  • @marksmith2412
    @marksmith2412 3 года назад +2

    For loft conversions if the client doesn't want a tin hat, I'd have a waiver for the client to sign stating that they are liable for any damage due to weather as well as costs incurred for the extra time and materials it takes to sheet up every night. Basically just make it cheaper for them to put the tin hat on. If they still refuse I'd probably walk away because that client is going to be a pain in the arse.

  • @KarlMcClelland
    @KarlMcClelland 5 лет назад +1

    Very very good video. Lots of stories and most of them true :)

  • @MrRorZzo
    @MrRorZzo 5 лет назад +3

    I know you are both busy but would love a couple of these a month. Very interesting coming from a plumbing apprentice!

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Rory
      We were trying to get one out every week but it has slipped a bit. Too much going on but we will try and get back to it.

  • @Turbofab
    @Turbofab 4 года назад

    Biggest disaster I had was a huge soot fall,
    Fireplace was in a newly installed white kitchen, I packed out the fireplace gaffer taped sheeting and ply wood as we had to clear a blockage above,
    Sticks, dead birds and sheep's wool and a ton of soot came down in a lump and the air pressure blew the ply and sheeting off and completely covered everything, even the white silicone hadn't completely cured...
    That to me was worse than when I fell off a roof and landed on the conservatory

  • @hi-tech55
    @hi-tech55 5 лет назад +1

    I have found public liability a bit of a mine field these days. I am a carpenter and joiner. Do I fit kitchens? Do I touch bathrooms? Do I used fixed woodwork machines? I am sure there are others. Just saying that it’s not quite as simple as it used to be, so it is very important to check you get the insurance that you need. I also agree with both of you, Cross-rail was always going to go over budget, but I don’t think they were bothered if it did. So Robin thinks like me, they should get somewhere close to it. Roger is right it’s difficult to set a budget without knowing the complications. When I priced for commercial work, I was always pricing against a company that went in cheaper and relied on extras and change of scope of works to make the money up.

  • @user-gg4ky7rw6q
    @user-gg4ky7rw6q 5 лет назад +1

    I have to agree with robin about the cross rail pricing time scale. They must know roughly how much it will take and time scale the thing is once they start they have you over a barrel and can keep charging them more because once you have gone so far there’s no Turing back

  • @jonesconrad1
    @jonesconrad1 2 года назад

    Roger is spot on about having regimes in place. I'm not on the tools anymore, but I worked on loads of sites when I was younger, young, arrogant and not risk averse enough I would sneer at some of the systems in place on some of the bigger sites, older, wiser and less arrogant ( I hope :) ) they make a lot more sense now. The hard thing is getting people to follow them and now I start to see why some site agents appeared to quite harsh.

  • @80andybrown80
    @80andybrown80 5 лет назад +1

    Keep it going lads.

  • @lettsgetiton7787
    @lettsgetiton7787 5 лет назад +2

    alot of building and contents insurances will need notification of any builder works taken place, if this isn't mentioned then there may be a chance you arnt insured, keep up the good work guys .

  • @russelljbriscoe
    @russelljbriscoe 2 года назад +2

    The price of Cross Rail has turned out to be less than half the price of track & trace , £18 billion CR £37 BILLION track & trace.
    Just found your podcast 👍

  • @KevinBower-gy5be
    @KevinBower-gy5be 3 года назад +1

    Many years ago, I built and hung a new back door for an elderly lady in a house she'd just moved into. I noticed that the top slab on her rear step was loose, and offered to re-bed it for her because I knew I'd got half a bag of pre-mixed mortar in the van. Like an idiot though, I mixed it way too thin and since it was a Saturday afternoon, all the builders merchants were shut.She told me to help myself to anything which was out in the garage because the previous owner had left a load of stuff in there. I rooted round and finally found this box containing this loose, grey, dry granular material amongst all her possessions which she hadn't yet moved into the house - so I added that to the mix to bulk it out and it worked a treat. It turned out that I'd used her late husband's ashes .....

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад

      It may be the first useful jobs he has done around the house in years. Personally, if someone could put my ashes to good use in some building work I would be happy.

  • @TheBrick2
    @TheBrick2 3 года назад

    Good stories. I have worked in the oil industry and there is something that takes both disaster and risk assessment to another level but things still go wrong some though bad attitude of a person or team some just bad luck. As you say the main thing is no one dying or serious injury.

  • @petemoring67
    @petemoring67 5 лет назад +2

    Brilliant!! .... (Pre-Warned is Pre-Armed :-)

  • @chrisohanlon69
    @chrisohanlon69 2 года назад +1

    Lol, I love it every time roger uses the phrase "especially a fat bloke"

  • @yellowdog1078
    @yellowdog1078 4 года назад +3

    My brother thought he'd earn a couple of quid gardening and was told to weed someones beds. He got into the first two and at the end of one was some saplings. He ripped them out and cut them up so they'd fit in his ton sack. When the client turned up at the end of the day he was like "Where are my Oak trees" "What Oak trees?" "There were oak tree saplings in that corner, they were a memorial to my dead wife." .... o fuck.

  • @greg4272
    @greg4272 2 года назад

    Regarding the topic at the end, I am totally on Robin's side.
    When a professional builder / firm / company undertakes a job (small or large) and enters into a contract with the client by the quotation, and all the information he gives, he says (gives his word), this is how its gonna be, this is how long its gonna last and this is how much its gonna cost. He has to keep his word / contract!
    Why?
    Because he is the expert, the professional, who is called to give the quotation and do the job. He should be able to plan ahead, and tell in advance how its gonna be and for how much.
    If he is not able to do so, then he should not give an exact price and finish date! Rather an estimate.
    Saying one thing then doing another, and claim its the nature of the job is wrong.

  • @MrJFoster1984
    @MrJFoster1984 5 лет назад +2

    I always have terms and conditions in my quotations. Inclusions and exclusions. Items excluded are for damaging any services like water, electric, gas, internet etc. All due care and attention will be taken but we accept no liability for any loss or damage resulting from damage to the above. If they accept your terms your right.

  • @gav2759
    @gav2759 4 года назад +2

    As an accurate way of measuring window apertures, I use sticks I know to be 1m 2m etc. someone thought it would be a wheeze to cut a few inches off one of them. I made 8 windows, all a couple of inches over size. Needless to say it was a dead loss for me....Hilarious!

  • @offshoretinker
    @offshoretinker 3 года назад

    Here speaks the wisdom of the ages!

  • @martin88870
    @martin88870 4 года назад

    I am new to the world of being self-employed and a business owner in welding and fabrication. One thing that sticks in my mind which is not often covered in these videos is what would happen if a customer tried to sue you for a mistake you made or they tried to sue you for a miss understanding it the details of the job? i cant image this would happen very often but there are people out there that would do this

  • @greg4272
    @greg4272 2 года назад

    I had been thrown at a printed drawing once for door opening measurements, and literally the the printing was soooo incredibly tiny, that even with a magnifier the numbers were not readable! It was so small that the printer's resolution was not fine enough to distinguish between a 6 and an 8 !

  • @joncotton68
    @joncotton68 3 года назад

    One off your finest chats

  • @woodbassguitars
    @woodbassguitars 5 лет назад

    Many years ago we were fitting a new bathroom and although we drained everything we did not cap off one pipe. There must have been an airlock , came back in the morning to find most of the ground floor covered with an inch if water. In the end my insurance paid me for the cost of putting it right including new kitchen doors which had got damaged. The customer was very good about it but of course I was very panicked and upset at the time. Lesson learnt though, no more claims in the following thirty years.

  • @THECARKUS
    @THECARKUS 5 лет назад +1

    I used to install oil tanks and deal with spills for an environmental firm. That oil story... mate. Gave me the shivers!!! Nightmare.

    • @MrSmoore77
      @MrSmoore77 5 лет назад

      Was it alpha environmental mate? I worked for them for a bit near Gloucester

  • @relph3
    @relph3 3 года назад

    In the 1990's companies installing domestic burglar alarms would invariably surface mount all the wiring fastening them with just staples. As a carpet fitter, it was always an issue with trying hard not to cut any of the wires. But from time to time a cut wire would occur, the customer would call the alarm company and the alarm engineer would be sent out to repair the wire and create a very expansive invoice which the carpet fitter would be expected to pay. However I remember finding out that the UK had a general guidance of household rules. One of these rules was not to run any unshielded wires or or flex under floorcovering. ie without conduit or capping. So armed with this information sheet I managed to obtain and laminate, if at any time exposed wires, of any kind, had been expected to be covered with the floor covering the customer was always shown this and I never paid for a cut wire again.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад

      That is brilliant. It just shows how you can assume it is your fault. Same thing happens when utility companies have services laid too shallow.

  • @sidewodja
    @sidewodja 5 лет назад +3

    Many Many years ago working In some ground floor flats we'd tapped into the neighbours gas supply as the gas board had yet to connect the flat up. We were staying in the flat whilst doing the work and the labourer was frying breakfast on the stove. There was a knock on the door. Opened it and there was the gas man who'd come a week early to connect it up. He could see straight through the hall and into the kitchen and there was a lovely smell of bacon..
    He wasnt happy but luckily never took it any further...

  • @leerolfe5332
    @leerolfe5332 5 лет назад +2

    Sooooo easy to listen to guys! I'm a plumber who works with a carpenter friend so this shit is uncanny.

  • @mattyh4554
    @mattyh4554 5 лет назад

    Just had a velux loft conversion and the lathe and plaster made a hell of a mess.

  • @pizzaboy3946
    @pizzaboy3946 3 года назад +1

    When it comes to the the insurance company paying out for damage resulting from the actions of a workman, I understand it may have a "subrogated" claim against the tradesman to recover its losses. I am not sure that this happens often (but more likely if there is public liability insurance) and the insurer would have to establish negligence on the part of the tradesman.
    As for Notre Dame, I think that had more to do with the reason behind the increasing number of attacks on churches in the west than any hot works, which would have been heavily supervised.

  • @saabuldin
    @saabuldin 5 лет назад +2

    After watching this podcast last night. I just put my foot through a plasterboard ceiling. Leg went all the way through. 😣. Builder left boards up right next to bathroom door. As I entered... puff. 😅

    • @ukconstruction
      @ukconstruction 5 лет назад +3

      Mate! It happens to each and everyone of us!

  • @dread4836
    @dread4836 4 года назад

    Roger is 100% correct and Robin is also 100% correct ie managing expectations, but what both methods would trigger to some clients, not all, is alarm at the thought of such a thing happening, 80% of trades people would avoid mentioning such things just in case they lose confidence in their abilities. I have always taken Robin's approach to be honest, the builder takes all the risk if you are awarded the job.

  • @lazylad9064
    @lazylad9064 5 лет назад +2

    Can't believe he asked you was you around when the pyramids was built.😂😂😂 cheeky git. Love the videos. We've all had disasterers, put me foot in a tin of emulsion stepping off a ladder once decorating a lady's house.😥

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +3

      Robin thinks youth is a permanent condition. His mirror is broken.

  • @paulmarjoram2258
    @paulmarjoram2258 2 года назад

    If they weren’t before, those timbers have bowed, or if they were and laid down bow up, you two lumacks may have straightened them up. Good vid all the same. Had a boiler put in recently and the electrician, employed by heating company, nearly put his drill through hidden pipes when running earth to meter. Even though he was told where they were beforehand, he totally ignored it and had a near miss. Arrogant little B. Kitchen would of had to be stripped out if the worse happened. He only missed those pipes by a mm.

  • @dorianleakey
    @dorianleakey 4 года назад

    The reason these big projects like crossrail cost so much is often because they try to borrow the money piecemeal and do it bit by bit, I haven't the details of crossrail itself, but HS2, the issue is rather than doing every section at the same time they start at with a small section, then either end of that small section and slowly work towards meeting in the middle. That's why its going to be no good. Build all the way to Edinburgh right from the start and it will mean borrowing more in the short term and less over all.

  • @simost2566
    @simost2566 3 года назад

    Goes some way to explaining the shoddy self cert electrics in the house I bought last year. Clearly the spark had bodged together whatever he fancied in the kitchen knowing full well it wasn’t his problem in future.

  • @phalimmaguire6069
    @phalimmaguire6069 5 лет назад

    Had to laugh as I'm from Roehampton

  • @andypandy955
    @andypandy955 4 года назад

    I was tiling a bathroom the client wanted the side of the bath tiled so I fitted a wooden panel with a frame. I used my air brad nailer to fix the panel. I felt something shoot past me thought nothing of it then after the same thing happened a few more times I looked at the bath I had shot the brads through the bath. I went into a cold sweat!!!! I spoke to the client asked if they wanted me to replace the bath they said can you have it repaired. To cut a long story short I found a specialist who repaired the bath for £80 and it was a beautiful job. It was that awful sick feeling which taught me a big lesson to slow down and check out what you are doing. I had realised I forgot to change the 2 inch brads to a smaller size stupid error. Be honest with your clients as a result I was asked to do a bedroom conversion for them nice people.

  • @nickmccormick4264
    @nickmccormick4264 4 года назад

    As an aside, according to Wikipedia the spire on Notre Dame was only built in 1864. The original 13th century spire was removed in 1786.
    Do you fancy putting a price in for the rebuild?

  • @juancornetto8243
    @juancornetto8243 5 лет назад +1

    fuckin pmsl at robin's joke haha :)

  • @markvickers4189
    @markvickers4189 5 лет назад

    here is one for Roger because he might remember the was a bad batch of Indian copper pipe and it was used on a property we were working on at the time . You will know how fare the job was on when I say the painters where in . We sat down for dinner when we heard water running and they said when one leak started , the difference in the pressured caused more . By the time we managed to turn the water off the damage was done having to nearly having to complete again . plumbing , electrics and plaster . the company I was working for did wish they had not bought the cheap copper but I did point out it could of been worse as we were about to install the kitchen and that the customer was not living there at the time.

  • @lrdisco2005
    @lrdisco2005 5 лет назад +1

    I have always wondered if it's just in the UK that large scale projects go so far over budget, and which pockets the extra cash goes in.

    • @twig3288
      @twig3288 Год назад

      No need to worry about budgets when taxpayers are footing the bill.

  • @keenangreen37
    @keenangreen37 5 лет назад +5

    Could you guys do the best tape measure review 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @ukconstruction
      @ukconstruction 5 лет назад +4

      No problem!

    • @chillpill7446
      @chillpill7446 5 лет назад +1

      In 25 years in the game ive found the Stanley fatmax 8 metre. Yellow with black rubber mould round it as the best overall tape measure.its Only 13 quid on amazon.half the price of building suppliers.get it while its hot!

  • @MarkUKInsects
    @MarkUKInsects Год назад

    A former boss's opening interview question was "tell me about your biggest f$%k up?"
    If they said that hadn't, they ether where lairs, or too lazy
    But hearing how people handled things that went pair shaped was very telling about what sort of person they were.

  • @moomastico
    @moomastico 5 лет назад +1

    Everybody wants things to be safer, faster and cheaper but they are almost mutually exclusive terms, you can only have two at a time.

  • @nickfoskin4600
    @nickfoskin4600 4 года назад +1

    Why were they doing risk assessments for mixing cement? 😄
    Love these chats

    • @paulh1860
      @paulh1860 4 года назад +2

      Go inhale cement dust for your answer

    • @nickfoskin4600
      @nickfoskin4600 4 года назад +2

      @@paulh1860 I think it went over your head. You mix mortar or concrete using the ingredient cement. It's context. Btw while the dust is not good for the lungs the grout is more of an issue for skin/eye contact.
      To say mixing cement is a little rookie mistake, like a kid calling a concrete lorry a cement lorry

  • @johnflower8648
    @johnflower8648 5 лет назад +5

    The main contractor for the piromids was Pharo and sons.

    • @worldadventureman
      @worldadventureman 5 лет назад +2

      haha, except it's highly unlikely that the Egyptians built the Pyramids. :)

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +3

      @@worldadventureman Do you think it was people from outer space?

    • @worldadventureman
      @worldadventureman 5 лет назад

      @@SkillBuilder LOL what you don't have enough to do, now you are going through old comments? I doubt it was people from outer space, although i wouldn't rule that out entirely. But the best theory's are there was a catastrophic event of a meteor that hit earth 12,800 years ago which caused massive sea level rises and flooding and then wiped out most everything and brought the last ice age of the Younger Dryas. They have recently found a creator in Greenland that fits this theory. So there could have been an advanced civilisation on earth, who built the pyramids. It's very clear the ancient Egyptians just couldn't have done it. The accuracy of how the Great pyramid is placed on the exactly geographical center of earth, its alignments with star systems from 12 thousand years ago, the precision of the stone cuts and the size of the stones, and the fact that the Egyptians never once mention the building of it in any of the thousands of hieroglyphs pretty much rule out it being them that built it.

    • @dorianleakey
      @dorianleakey 4 года назад

      @@worldadventureman www.history.com/news/egypts-oldest-papyri-detail-great-pyramid-construction

    • @worldadventureman
      @worldadventureman 4 года назад

      @@dorianleakey ​ back at ya. Archaeologists are just aching to find evidence for the Egyptians that they built the Pyramids. I don't believe that these papyri show any evidence that they were built by Egyptians 4000 years ago. Here is another article that discusses those texts.
      "So what exactly are we seeing here? Is it really the construction of the pyramid itself being described? Or is it a repair job undertaken to spiff up or repair a monument already old, to be co-opted or adopted by Khufu for the grandeur of his own legacy? While the activities described in these papyri might very well be related to some sort of work on the Great Pyramid, they still tell us nothing about how, or why, the pyramid was built in the first place."
      grahamhancock.com/peetp1/

  • @nickhaley4663
    @nickhaley4663 5 лет назад

    Re: crossrail and other big public projects, If the contractors were going to be held to a fixed price then they would never ever take on the job.
    It's just a fact of life as Roger said.

  • @ianscottuk
    @ianscottuk 5 лет назад

    If they put an honest price for a large installation job, the tender would not win. It will always come down to project teams racking up extra costs for unforeseen issues that the clients contract didnt capture. Its an inevitable game, and the clients team will be doing exactly the same from the otherside.

  • @PIA-BUILD
    @PIA-BUILD 5 лет назад

    Hi there guys I do lots of bathroom renovation all the time I have liability insurance touch wood no real heavy disaster only once I flushed the toilet without pan connected was lucky as I was renovating the kitchen below the bathroom. When you say licence to use flame what is that. I have have no qualifications in plumbing but years of self experience in working braze gun and I am a very good plumber. I do carry a fire extinguisher on site when working not in van. Any advice will help do I need a licence to plumb using heat lamps

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад

      Robin is talking about big sites. On domestic work you just need your insurance.

    • @anthonyworthington6495
      @anthonyworthington6495 5 лет назад

      A lot of clients ask for risk assessment and if using fire ie blow torch etc, a fire permit

  • @needaman66
    @needaman66 4 года назад

    Ive had $10 million PLI for over 20 years. Never had a claim, never had a disaster (touch wood) i am always assessing the job, assessing my actions and progress. Assessing tradies actions and so been lucky so far. But now at 58 im getting less work so ive let it go. I can only do work up to $3300 now, but im ok with that, im always carefull

  • @leonidasking7502
    @leonidasking7502 3 года назад +1

    Pyramids weren't built by slaves. They were built by respected craftsman who were buried along side their lifes work

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 года назад +1

      That is an interesting idea but it is not fact. The people who did the heavy lifting were slaves and they were not buried with any ceremony. The Egyptians made no secret of this fact and trading in slaves was a large part of the world's economy. Slaves were imported from the Horn of Africa into Egypt.
      This was happening thousands of years before what we now refer to as 'The Slave Trade'. Most cities in Europe had slave markets and many of the younger more attractive females and young boys were sold to sex trafficers.

  • @tomasmorrissey7324
    @tomasmorrissey7324 2 года назад

    Interesting their insurance does takes president is that the same in Ireland

  • @tomasmorrissey7324
    @tomasmorrissey7324 2 года назад

    Dere ya go robin no luck for working on a Sunday 🙈

  • @paulmarchant7628
    @paulmarchant7628 3 года назад

    my worse issue was a plumbing issue, i fitted a customers kitchen and she asked for a basin in the downstairs bathroom. So i fitted it on the final day left no problem then 5.30 in the morning she is on the phone i race out to the job the house is soaked the whole downstairs is wet
    anyway i go in the toilet and water is pouring out of the hot drain valve
    now i didn't touch it i drained hot by turning off cold and being a hp system the hot stopped straight away so Didn't touch drain
    Anyway I'm blamed for drain off never turned off when installed from new the seal was stuck shut and my banging around must of loosen it and over night pressure built and it popped
    long story short public liability got involved and pushed the £30000.00 claim back on the house insurance but it was a very thence time

  • @paulthomas3841
    @paulthomas3841 11 месяцев назад

    me and other builders could write a book on the Customers, think they know what we are Doing

  • @darrenroche9225
    @darrenroche9225 5 лет назад

    I say you went in to change a tap and was told you broke the heating Roger

  • @elliottdebell7783
    @elliottdebell7783 2 года назад

    Renew my policy and my broker said if your job is valued over £50,000 the home owners insurance won’t cover the work and you need to take out a policy that covers the lot of work.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  2 года назад

      Good information, we will do more on this

  • @H_o_g_a_n
    @H_o_g_a_n 5 лет назад

    great yarn guys. funny to hear about the disasters, but of course not funny at the time. chur!

  • @ralphsterz2889
    @ralphsterz2889 5 лет назад +2

    Most major UK cathedrals have serious fire prevention systems in the roof spaces?
    Sprinklers, sensors etc
    Not sure what happened in Paris?

    • @johndaniells4440
      @johndaniells4440 5 лет назад

      Could have been temporarily isolated as part of the building works perhaps?

  • @loafersheffield
    @loafersheffield 5 лет назад +8

    Gatwick airport flightpath and two blokes droning...
    Call the cops!

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +1

      Brilliant as always.

    • @ukconstruction
      @ukconstruction 5 лет назад +2

      Love it!

    • @loafersheffield
      @loafersheffield 5 лет назад +1

      There is another prominent You Tuber-plumber who actually flies a drone. Shall we start a smear campaign? (joke!) Good manners prevents me from mentioning him by name. On the issue of great British civil engineers, who have made huge contributions to the health and wealth of the nation, my vote will always go to Sir Joseph Bazalgette.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bazalgette
      The pumping works at Crossness in themselves were beautiful buildings and the steam pumps that pumped 80 tonnes of raw sewage per minute were actually called Albert and Victoria.
      ruclips.net/video/MJWLJxiWgDY/видео.html

  • @davehole643
    @davehole643 4 года назад +5

    the moral to the story is 'if you want a job doing right, do it yourself'

  • @tomasmorrissey7324
    @tomasmorrissey7324 2 года назад

    I've t burn the wood on two mantle pieces in a newly build house a bees wax Dem shortly I'll be using rogs advise and hanging round a while , maybe even sleep in d room for d night now 😂😂🙈

  • @needaman66
    @needaman66 4 года назад

    Australia H&S is very tight

  • @billpalmer2381
    @billpalmer2381 Год назад

    i had fitted a bath room out left pipework ready for free standing bath the tiler had tiled the floor i asked him to leave the tiles around where the hot and cold supply's to the bath come out of the floor he tiled it very tight not enough to get spanners in to use compression fittings on the 2 brass pipes combing out to feed the bath push fits had just come on the market i thought ill try them to get me out of trouble disaster ! turned on water had to get a mate of mine to board and plaster ceiling the push fits don't work on plated copper pipe lost the last bit of money on the job lol shit happens no one was injured just my pocket

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  Год назад

      Yes it is a common mistake people make. You have to rub the chrome off because the teeth don't grab. I think most manufacturers mention this but nobody reads the instructions.

  • @kingspunkbubble
    @kingspunkbubble 5 лет назад +1

    I think that they deliberately under price the cost of big civil engineering projects just to get them to fly in the first place. When they’re halfway through the project and going over budget you get the finger pointing and blame game. But what you gonna do, scrap the whole thing?

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 лет назад +2

      Hi Simon
      There are so many factors involved but looking back at the projects of Brunel and others it was never any different.
      We look back on the achievements with pride and gloss over the pain. Snowflakes think everything is pain free and runs like clockwork but that is not how things get built.

  • @atwr15
    @atwr15 5 лет назад +2

    Another great podcast.
    Plumbing disaster here. New hot water tank, the type with hard foam exterior. Plumbers installed. When finished we went shopping. Came home to find water pouring out of the top of the front door. Turned out the manufacturer had foamed over the bottom drain and the plumbers thought there was no drain hole installed. The foam held the cold water but gave way when up to pressure. So who's responsible? Manufacturer or Plumber. Clearly is was going to be a long argument. We called our insurance company and they sorted it. Never found out if they recovered their costs.

    • @atwr15
      @atwr15 5 лет назад

      @@MKRM27 No, they weren't local and were suitability contrite. They were working over 100 miles away but arrived very quickly to plug the hole.

  • @PA3456
    @PA3456 5 лет назад +2

    Love your profile guys however I’ll play devils advocate. If your taking possession of my site or partial of my my house for an extension, isn’t the contractor responsible?

    • @MrJFoster1984
      @MrJFoster1984 5 лет назад +1

      PA3456 Not if they have exercised their duty of care and take all reasonably practical precautions 😁

    • @PA3456
      @PA3456 5 лет назад

      Helicrete Sydney cheers 👍

  • @clarkspiemuncher24
    @clarkspiemuncher24 5 лет назад

    getting to the stage re we need to wear a body cam so we have proof if something goes wrong that is not our fault