saw them perform many times in Loa Angeles. they blew me away! while tending bar in a jazz club in LA,Wayne came in,sat at the bar and ordered a"jack and coke"(jack daniels whisky). I told his money was no good here. he ordered another later, and when he left, he thanked me and left me 5 bucks. "Thanks for the memories"
I'll never forget the feeling of seeing them the first time. Outdoors, at the Greek Theater in Berkeley, sitting on the grass. The music was so powerfully beyond my grasp that I felt how an insect must feel, when a human 6,000 times its size brushes past without crushing it.
I saw them twice, once with Jaco and Erskine, the other with Hakim. I also saw Zawinul's Syndicate 3 months before he died. I'm so sad that they're gone. What amazing musicians.
This was such an informative and entertaining documentary. Wayne Shorter passed away yesterday, so it was tearful at times. I saw Weather Report in the 70s. I will never forget it.
Yeah..I saw them at the warfield San francisco and it was Mind Blowing...the sound and the atmosphere! Jaco ran out shirtless and just a pair of leather dungarees stomping on to the stage peter erskine Killed it the sound was just amazing!
@@hazelteal Girl....That concert was out of this world, my friend and I went berzerk! it was way better than the records just the 4 of them. At that time Jaco had his head on straight and the concert was impeccable we were in the front balcony section. The closest you could ever get now would be to just dial up one of their concerts on you tube.This concert was like 1980....a year later i ended up as Lead singer for Slave.
@@billepperson2662 Yes. I did bad enuff....first album debut sang with Danny Webster the GREAT on steppin out and in and out. Then..New Plateau I sang every song lead vocals on that album thanks to Danny Webster who pulled me to the side after i sang easy lovin you and told me I could do the entire album. He wanted to also concentrate on his guitar work. I also sang a duet with the great Floyd Miller on share your love. check those albums out Bill! Historical stuff man. I love new plateau it didn't get promoted at all so I left.
Thanks for posting. I have this on VHS tape. I saw them just before this documenatry went out, just after Jaco, with Victor Bailey on bass. I met all of them outside the Hammersmith Odeon in '83 and still have the autographs of that line-up, incluidng Omar Hakim. We'll never see the like of this band again.
As a Person coming from listening to Big Band sounds on the AM Radio in the 50's, then gravitating to Rock & Roll in my early teen age years as did most of my peers, I was introduced by a friend in high school to the sound of real jazz and this kind of music changed my musical life forever! I was very fortunate to have been influenced by all these sounds back then because as I became a young adult, I had, with all my experience, developed a strong foundation in order to hear and appreciate my very first experience hearing Jazz Fusion for the very first time and this sound was from Weather Report which I started to listen to in the late 70's and it became my favorite Jazz Band! I'm now 78 years old and I am Blessed with a fabulous collection of more than 400 great CD's of all my favorite music! I feel sorry for the young teens growing up in todays world of what I consider to be Musical Noise or the De-Evolution of Music, which makes me feel very sad! Enough said!
I saw this documentary first time out and rushed to by Domino Theory the next day. It remains one of my all time favourite albums. Two great friends and two great musicians.
Jaco was a genius - nobody will ever come close. His tone, sense of rhythm and his sense of space - when to play and when to be silent, mark him out as one of the great musicians. He was essential to Weather Report. I agree that the passing mention of Jaco makes this programme seem ludicrous in retrospect. Its like talking about Brazilian Football and not mentioning Pele. At the time I bought the album with Omar but it does not stand the test of time like Heavy Weather or Black Market or 8:30. I am amazed and surprised that Zawinul and Joni Mitchell can be so dismissive of Jaco. He added so much to their art. I can only think that he must have been difficult and the drugs and alcohol did not sit well with his bi-polar disorder. Pete Erskine talks about him lovingly though. What a tragic end for the greatest bass player ever.
I agree with you, Jaco was the magic musician... best records of WR and JM are with Jaco... I don’t like this WR version. I saw JZ with Trilok Gurtu live and fell a sleep, the emperor is without his clothes!!! Come on let’s be honest about music...It is good to try, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t... all WR other versions were better and from Black Market (even with Al Johnson- I met him at a bass clinic, great bassist and good guy) to Weather Report (82?) was for me the best version of the band. The point is they ended sounding like that time, and not making the time sound like them (which I think is why they were pioneers)...
Besides Jaco was also a talented composer. Other thing to say is that when he joined the band he was a healthy innocent kid....I wonder who the hell introduced him to alcohol and drugs...
@@martinturco3668 There's no drug that will get you higher then mania, if you get intense phases. I don't remember reading that Jaco used any drugs. The mania and his intense talent and fame made him a complete asshole. He was reported to be all about himself.
@@annode I've read and heard People testifying about Jaco's problems with drugs and alcohol... to mention one, Jazztimes magazine grey cover with a big photo of Jaco with his fretless FJB. I can not recall the exact date, it is from the 90's, I've been searching for it, but haven't found it yet...
@@annode These maniac dissorders are not controlable, they need a good treatment, unfortunately, he did not have it...an "asshole" does it on purpuse, we can not say that someone who lives in the streets lives like that because he likes it...ergo behaves like an asshole...
Zawinul grow up in the 3rd district of Vienna in the worker´s quarter of that district named "Erdberg" and not in the Vienna woods. He just had family in the Vienna woods from his mother´s side in a small village not that far from Vienna named "Oberkirchbach" = "Grandparents" who he obviously visited on a regular basis, but he didn´t "grow up" there but at his parent´s home in Vienna. He even went in Primary School and then in an academic Highschool in Erdberg as well before he got the scholarship for the Vienna Konservatorium for music art.
Alas I never saw Weather Report but I did see Weather Update at the Catalina Bar & Grill in Hollywood and in 2005 the Zawinul Syndicate at the Detroit Jazz Festival.
Joe used two or three Prophet 5 synths. Owning one myself I can see why he chose to use them, because they sound like and blend remarkably well with horns.
I get it however it was Joe that turned it to Muzak , elevator music as us English say , Shame really should have known better considering their/ his earlier tracks were outstanding, I never understood this .
So wonderful seeing a young Wayne. Never realized he sounds unique but a combination of Prez, Warne Warsh and Trane. That said- pathetic not to make special note of Jaco. Maybe Joe refused.
Jaco, mentioned only in passing, is hard to stomach. Joe and Jaco were in a constant battle with each other - it made the music better. To reference Jaco’s influence into a 5 second soundbite is insulting TBH.
Jaco was a genius - nobody will ever come close. His tone, sense of rhythm and his sense of space - when to play and when to be silent, mark him out as one of the great musicians. He was essential to Weather Report. I agree that the passing mention of Jaco makes this programme seem ludicrous in retrospect. Its like talking about Brazilian Football and not mentioning Pele. At the time I bought the album with Omar but it does not stand the test of time like Heavy Weather or Black Market or 8:30. I am amazed and surprised that Zawinul and Joni Mitchell can be so dismissive of Jaco. He added so much to their art. I can only think that he must have been difficult and the drugs and alcohol did not sit well with his bi-polar disorder. Pete Erskine talks about him lovingly though. What a tragic end for the greatest bass player ever.
Very strange documentary. Mirouslav Vitous up to 1973 (even one song on Mysterious Travellor, American Tango, one of WR best), Alphonso Johnson, and many others. In which band did they play? Only Seconds for Jaco. Too much of this late stuff with six or seven keyboards around Joe, give me a break. I like them most up to 8:30.
Joe was talking of the effect it made on him as the first E-Pianos came out. The first thing he has seen was a Wurlitzer. He was not saying that he played one, man. First learn to hear and think properly before you let your wisdom go. Tthat is ignorant egoism! Take WR for an example. Joe and Wayne had no problem stepping back and letting others play the lead role. Guys with your attitude (forgive my rudeness) want to lead but fail.
Thats not jaco in this last clip ? and it doesant look like Alphonso Johnson ? If i remember corectly jaco joined during Blackmarket ? which was 85 or 86 ? Hey but its all fantastic they were and still are cutting edge players all of them
OK great so god gave him songs for free and all he had to do was turn off thought turn off the monkey brain. Hey thats a pretty good instruction for what I would consider the highest form of meditatio. And all you have to do to avoid activating thought is to avoid activating memory-- remain spontaneous and improvise.
this is great for hearing the musicians talk, especially zawinul and wayne, but the talking head's opinionated opinions are just worthless and totally wrong - "weather report in the beginning was really just sax and keyboards ..." give me a break
What kind of a so called Break do you want pal? Everyone has their own feelings of what they are hearing and just as Joe Z sets the tone, the players all do their own thing but it all comes back in a totally different way but it's the same! This is your Break, can you dig it!
@@daveming1 The woman who made Eric Clapton's Life in 12 bars movie said she didn't want any "talking heads" in it, she agreed with your stance(and mine). Opinions with little knowledge does not work.
Hendrix was a good guitarist and a great showman, no doubt. But he was no John McLaughlin ... There are levels even Jimi could only dream of (When it comes to Rock, ask Rory Gallagher, when it comes to Jazz, ask about 200 of them)
It may have been joe and wayne's band, but jaco gave weather report its heart....they did him dirty....the tallest plant that stands out, always get cut down the fastest...
Jaco did himself dirty and he couldn’t help it. Zawinul could navigate the drugs and the pressure but as he said he liked himself too much to let it hurt him.
Weather Report was just as much Jaco's as it was Joe's and Wayne's. But Jaco infused some sort of magical 'Alchemist's Brew' into the band's soul, changing its physiological musical configuration forever! No one in the world who loved Weather Report's music can ever conceive of the band evolving into what it became without Mr. Pastorius in it. No disrespect to all of the other hugely important members of this legendary fusion band, but I believe that most fans will agree that Mr. Jaco Pastorius was able to define Weather Report in ways that only he was able to!
@@bolder2009 YEAH!!!! hOW I say?? They were very very close and seems like they loved each other and knew exactly what they had!!!!! You could hear the confidence in the writing and the unselfishness as a group!
saw them perform many times in Loa Angeles. they blew me away! while tending bar in a jazz club in LA,Wayne came in,sat at the bar and ordered a"jack and coke"(jack daniels whisky). I told his money was no good here. he ordered another later, and when he left, he thanked me and left me 5 bucks. "Thanks for the memories"
This used to be TV in the UK. Now its eejits baking cakes.
I'll never forget the feeling of seeing them the first time. Outdoors, at the Greek Theater in Berkeley, sitting on the grass. The music was so powerfully beyond my grasp that I felt how an insect must feel, when a human 6,000 times its size brushes past without crushing it.
I saw them twice, once with Jaco and Erskine, the other with Hakim. I also saw Zawinul's Syndicate 3 months before he died. I'm so sad that they're gone. What amazing musicians.
This was such an informative and entertaining documentary. Wayne Shorter passed away yesterday, so it was tearful at times. I saw Weather Report in the 70s. I will never forget it.
Yeah..I saw them at the warfield San francisco and it was Mind Blowing...the sound and the atmosphere! Jaco ran out shirtless and just a pair of leather dungarees stomping on to the stage peter erskine Killed it the sound was just amazing!
@@waynefoote3781 sounds like a good time!
@@hazelteal Girl....That concert was out of this world, my friend and I went berzerk! it was way better than the records just the 4 of them. At that time Jaco had his head on straight and the concert was impeccable we were in the front balcony section. The closest you could ever get now would be to just dial up one of their concerts on you tube.This concert was like 1980....a year later i ended up as Lead singer for Slave.
@@waynefoote3781You sang for the Dayton Ohio funk band Slave in 1981?
@@billepperson2662 Yes. I did bad enuff....first album debut sang with Danny Webster the GREAT on steppin out and in and out. Then..New Plateau I sang every song lead vocals on that album thanks to Danny Webster who pulled me to the side after i sang easy lovin you and told me I could do the entire album. He wanted to also concentrate on his guitar work. I also sang a duet with the great Floyd Miller on share your love. check those albums out Bill! Historical stuff man. I love new plateau it didn't get promoted at all so I left.
I too was hypnotized when I first saw them, way back in 1975. Brilliant musicians!
Since High School, I have been, and will always love the music 🎶 of WEATHER REPORT!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for posting. I have this on VHS tape. I saw them just before this documenatry went out, just after Jaco, with Victor Bailey on bass. I met all of them outside the Hammersmith Odeon in '83 and still have the autographs of that line-up, incluidng Omar Hakim. We'll never see the like of this band again.
As a Person coming from listening to Big Band sounds on the AM Radio in the 50's, then gravitating to Rock & Roll in my early teen age years as did most of my peers, I was introduced by a friend in high school to the sound of real jazz and this kind of music changed my musical life forever! I was very fortunate to have been influenced by all these sounds back then because as I became a young adult, I had, with all my experience, developed a strong foundation in order to hear and appreciate my very first experience hearing Jazz Fusion for the very first time and this sound was from Weather Report which I started to listen to in the late 70's and it became my favorite Jazz Band! I'm now 78 years old and I am Blessed with a fabulous collection of more than 400 great CD's of all my favorite music! I feel sorry for the young teens growing up in todays world of what I consider to be Musical Noise or the De-Evolution of Music, which makes me feel very sad! Enough said!
RIP Joe, RIP Victor, greats gone too soon.
Thank you so much for posting this doc.
Thanks for posting this!
I saw this documentary first time out and rushed to by Domino Theory the next day. It remains one of my all time favourite albums. Two great friends and two great musicians.
Brilliant musicians! Thank you!
Saw Zoe play in Australia - bloody legend and still in that same check favourite shirt!!
My favorite musicians...my god....
I was at that concert at Hammersmith in 1983.
"Yacko"? Effing Limey.
Yohn Yaco Yastorius the Yhird....
on Yetless Yass....
Thx for posting
Jaco was a genius - nobody will ever come close. His tone, sense of rhythm and his sense of space - when to play and when to be silent, mark him out as one of the great musicians. He was essential to Weather Report. I agree that the passing mention of Jaco makes this programme seem ludicrous in retrospect. Its like talking about Brazilian Football and not mentioning Pele. At the time I bought the album with Omar but it does not stand the test of time like Heavy Weather or Black Market or 8:30. I am amazed and surprised that Zawinul and Joni Mitchell can be so dismissive of Jaco. He added so much to their art. I can only think that he must have been difficult and the drugs and alcohol did not sit well with his bi-polar disorder. Pete Erskine talks about him lovingly though. What a tragic end for the greatest bass player ever.
I agree with you, Jaco was the magic musician... best records of WR and JM are with Jaco... I don’t like this WR version. I saw JZ with Trilok Gurtu live and fell a sleep, the emperor is without his clothes!!! Come on let’s be honest about music...It is good to try, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t... all WR other versions were better and from Black Market (even with Al Johnson- I met him at a bass clinic, great bassist and good guy) to Weather Report (82?) was for me the best version of the band. The point is they ended sounding like that time, and not making the time sound like them (which I think is why they were pioneers)...
Besides Jaco was also a talented composer. Other thing to say is that when he joined the band he was a healthy innocent kid....I wonder who the hell introduced him to alcohol and drugs...
@@martinturco3668 There's no drug that will get you higher then mania, if you get intense phases. I don't remember reading that Jaco used any drugs. The mania and his intense talent and fame made him a complete asshole. He was reported to be all about himself.
@@annode I've read and heard People testifying about Jaco's problems with drugs and alcohol... to mention one, Jazztimes magazine grey cover with a big photo of Jaco with his fretless FJB. I can not recall the exact date, it is from the 90's, I've been searching for it, but haven't found it yet...
@@annode These maniac dissorders are not controlable, they need a good treatment, unfortunately, he did not have it...an "asshole" does it on purpuse, we can not say that someone who lives in the streets lives like that because he likes it...ergo behaves like an asshole...
Zawinul grow up in the 3rd district of Vienna in the worker´s quarter of that district named "Erdberg" and not in the Vienna woods. He just had family in the Vienna woods from his mother´s side in a small village not that far from Vienna named "Oberkirchbach" = "Grandparents" who he obviously visited on a regular basis, but he didn´t "grow up" there but at his parent´s home in Vienna. He even went in Primary School and then in an academic Highschool in Erdberg as well before he got the scholarship for the Vienna Konservatorium for music art.
Great watch.
Brilliant.
still the best intro to a show
not a single mention of Airto Moriera, Alex Acuna or Miroslav Vitous 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
Wayne shorter is so cute and innocent!!
Alas I never saw Weather Report but I did see Weather Update at the Catalina Bar & Grill in Hollywood and in 2005 the Zawinul Syndicate at the Detroit Jazz Festival.
Go Shorter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love the hair
Joe used two or three Prophet 5 synths. Owning one myself I can see why he chose to use them, because they sound like and blend remarkably well with horns.
Great!
At the end Zawinul dropped with the inverted keyboard setting for the Black Market, theme it seems. Makes sense - not many synths can do that.
I get it however it was Joe that turned it to Muzak , elevator music as us English say ,
Shame really should have known better considering their/ his earlier tracks were outstanding, I never understood this .
The thumbnail reminds me of Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
So wonderful seeing a young Wayne. Never realized he sounds unique but a combination of Prez, Warne Warsh and Trane. That said- pathetic not to make special note of Jaco. Maybe Joe refused.
I knew JP personally. Sucks to be a bass player in Broward Cty
Jaco, mentioned only in passing, is hard to stomach. Joe and Jaco were in a constant battle with each other - it made the music better. To reference Jaco’s influence into a 5 second soundbite is insulting TBH.
the band was Joe & Waynes... period.
@@supraphonicstudios don’t disagree. However, to mention Jaco as “just this guy, he played bass” is what I have issue with.
They had other bass players. I liked Alphonso Johnson's playing better tbh.
Jaco was a genius - nobody will ever come close. His tone, sense of rhythm and his sense of space - when to play and when to be silent, mark him out as one of the great musicians. He was essential to Weather Report. I agree that the passing mention of Jaco makes this programme seem ludicrous in retrospect. Its like talking about Brazilian Football and not mentioning Pele. At the time I bought the album with Omar but it does not stand the test of time like Heavy Weather or Black Market or 8:30. I am amazed and surprised that Zawinul and Joni Mitchell can be so dismissive of Jaco. He added so much to their art. I can only think that he must have been difficult and the drugs and alcohol did not sit well with his bi-polar disorder. Pete Erskine talks about him lovingly though. What a tragic end for the greatest bass player ever.
Jaco contributed nothing to weather report. He was just a hired sideman.
great documentary however jaco pastorius is only mentioned in passing which is HARD to believe
David Olson I EVEN HEARD STORIES THAT JOE CHEATED THE GROUP FINANCIALLY, ETC.
Jaco was a major player in the success of WR and was probably their best Bass Player but this Video was not about Jaco or his contribution.
@@stevekatz4372 Jaco was exceptional, but I'm really surprised by Victor Bailey here, he's TASTY; choice of notes, groove etc 👌🏿
It was always about Wayne & Joe...beginning to end, and ALL the other members equally
@@BlackRootsUNLIMITED Alphonso Johnson?
one helluva drum freak-out at 26:54
Jaco was the Heavy Weather's co-productor ... Only .
Very strange documentary. Mirouslav Vitous up to 1973 (even one song on Mysterious Travellor, American Tango, one of WR best), Alphonso Johnson, and many others. In which band did they play? Only Seconds for Jaco. Too much of this late stuff with six or seven keyboards around Joe, give me a break. I like them most up to 8:30.
Birdland.....
🐦
At about 20:10, there's an edit. Did somebody actually edit out the Jaco part of this documentary?!
No edit by me. Exactly as broadcast (with degradation from VHS, of course).
Yacko? Had to chuckle at that one.
Boogie Woogie Waltz Karen Hall Cultural Dance
That’s a Rhodes not a Wurlitzer
Joe was talking of the effect it made on him as the first E-Pianos came out. The first thing he has seen was a Wurlitzer. He was not saying that he played one, man. First learn to hear and think properly before you let your wisdom go. Tthat is ignorant egoism! Take WR for an example. Joe and Wayne had no problem stepping back and letting others play the lead role. Guys with your attitude (forgive my rudeness) want to lead but fail.
Ummm re 23:10, the only member of the band who revolutionised an instrument was Jaco, much love to wayne and Joe but come on (come over)
👂 🌎
Thats not jaco in this last clip ? and it doesant look like Alphonso Johnson ? If i remember corectly jaco joined during Blackmarket ? which was 85 or 86 ? Hey but its all fantastic they were and still are cutting edge players all of them
Victor Bailey
1:59
22:59. Yacko.
Usual music critic
OK great so god gave him songs for free and all he had to do was turn off thought turn off the monkey brain. Hey thats a pretty good instruction for what I would consider the highest form of meditatio. And all you have to do to avoid activating thought is to avoid activating memory-- remain spontaneous and improvise.
TL:DR 44:02
this is great for hearing the musicians talk, especially zawinul and wayne, but the talking head's opinionated opinions are just worthless and totally wrong - "weather report in the beginning was really just sax and keyboards ..." give me a break
What kind of a so called Break do you want pal? Everyone has their own feelings of what they are hearing and just as Joe Z sets the tone, the players all do their own thing but it all comes back in a totally different way but it's the same! This is your Break, can you dig it!
@@stevekatz4372 I’m referring to a break from the talking heads (the non musicians) that don’t know what they’re talking about.
@@stevekatz4372 no I can’t dig it
@@daveming1 The woman who made Eric Clapton's Life in 12 bars movie said she didn't want any "talking heads" in it, she agreed with your stance(and mine). Opinions with little knowledge does not work.
Have to admit Joe cheated at 26:30 😄 that ARP Quadra arpeggiator was killer. Had to sell mine back in the mid-eighties to pay the rent 🤨
I was just wondering this. Reckon he was using the arpeggiator too!
Hendrix invented Jazz/Rock in 1966
Except for the jazz part. For that we needed Miles Davis.
@@mitchkahle314 The I guess that depends on how loosely one defines "rock".
Had he lived longer than he did, he would be playing with WR or a Jazz Fusion Band like them but he did not invent Jazz Rock!
Hendrix was a good guitarist and a great showman, no doubt. But he was no John McLaughlin ... There are levels even Jimi could only dream of (When it comes to Rock, ask Rory Gallagher, when it comes to Jazz, ask about 200 of them)
I forgot: Hendrix never ever played Jazz Rock
It may have been joe and wayne's band, but jaco gave weather report its heart....they did him dirty....the tallest plant that stands out, always get cut down the fastest...
How did they do him dirty?
Jaco did himself dirty and he couldn’t help it. Zawinul could navigate the drugs and the pressure but as he said he liked himself too much to let it hurt him.
Weather Report was just as much Jaco's as it was Joe's and Wayne's. But Jaco infused some sort of magical 'Alchemist's Brew' into the band's soul, changing its physiological musical configuration forever! No one in the world who loved Weather Report's music can ever conceive of the band evolving into what it became without Mr. Pastorius in it. No disrespect to all of the other hugely important members of this legendary fusion band, but I believe that most fans will agree that Mr. Jaco Pastorius was able to define Weather Report in ways that only he was able to!
@@bolder2009 YEAH!!!! hOW I say?? They were very very close and seems like they loved each other and knew exactly what they had!!!!! You could hear the confidence in the writing and the unselfishness as a group!
@@George-rb6bv Perfectly stated mate!
What about Jaco? Give me a break. Very disrespectful.
I Know right? Shits wack without Jaco!
Joe Is The Good Westher Report Leader ,Wayne Needs To Leave His Sound Back To Kenny G
All these whiny jaco nuthuggers in the comments,. Lol
Alphonso Johnson the Goat
@@ashton272 exActly!
I love Joe. Will always love Joe but many of his synth patches sounded really bad and even out of tune.
Yes, and there are those people who say that T Monk played Out of Tune! There will always be uneducated people like you!