@@supremegreaser2399 I got it from a subscription service that specifically gives me access to copyright free music so not sure if it’ll be available anywhere else for finding but I can list the song names in case🤷🏼♂️
@@hertzwave8001 probably not, the maus has more armor than most battleships, and its turret weighs so much that it wouldn't fly off but would probably be permanently disabled.
@@lewildknight9864 Uhhh, excuse me, more armor than most battleship? Are you comparing the weight or the pure thickeness of the armor? HMS Warspite, a WWI battleship with modern refitted, her most thickness belt armor is 305mm. Kongo japanese battleship has a battlecruiser graded armor and waterline belt reaches up to 203mm. Her barbettes is 254mm. Most of these are aguably outdated battleship here, wait until you see the more modern one like KGV or Iowa.
Inaccuracy from bship guns is sowed because in ships we can aim accurately only when target is locked, and in this case I think bship is not able to lock target, so it's purely on luck and judgement.
As the USS Wyoming, the event itself was fun but also boring due to how slow the initial setup was. Around half to a quarter of the time was wasted just getting the BBs in place. If this event was done again, it would better to expand out vehicle selection. Something like heavy tanks vs heavy cruisers or bigger. Definitely aim to have events where lots of participants can join since I find those to be the most fun. Pure high explosive shells were the way to go in this event, couldn’t have gotten my 13 kills without them. I’d like to thank all the HE shells out there for their support and faith. I wish for all my HE fans the best of luck out there, you all deserve it and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. And I wish for your continuous support in future endeavors.
The Maus cannon is like a destroyer cannon with the Maus cannon having 120mm gun almost the same as a destroyer. So I think thats why the Maus is able to pen the first battleship and killing it
Actually almost exactly like a destroyer since german destroyers had 12.8cm guns, although a different variant since the maus main gun was developed from the 12.8cm Flak
The Marlborough should have used HE imo. Its so powerful and would easily take out atleast 1-2 maus per brought side. Even the Wyoming which has less than half of the TNT filler succeeded very well by using HE only
@@thecreature6662 the HE easily can destroy a maus. You just need to hit the turret the explosion hits the upper plate of the hull and the tank goes *bye bye*. The problem with the SAPCBC and the APCBC is the pen. As we’ve seen in the video the shells often either just went trough the entire tank or somehow bounced off. The HE explodes immediately and the tank is gone. As you can see in 4:46 even the Wyomings HE with only 33kg of TNT was able to vaporize the tanks. Now just imagine Marlboroughs 88kg TNT shell… It would have been a nightmare for the ground units
theres clearly some issue with how the ship shell impacts are being calculated on targets that small. lot of weird hits happening that the mauses were surviving with no damage at all
The thing is the Shells of the Main guns of a battleship would still turn the crew to soup due to impact vibration. Those tanks also would have been shoved around considerably. Even if there was a lack of penetration and the elimination of vibration then there is kinetic heat transfer from each shell that connects. Now what if it was HE shells only sure less penetration but those tanks would have been Flippin.
Was the HMS Dreadnought, the reason why we were getting low kills was that we were not using pure HE shells, I switched mid way through the batte copying the Wyoming to get those 3 kills. Also I'm not sure if the naval shells are interacting properly with tanks.
The fact that you can see one of Marlborough's AP shells penetrating a Maus turret and only killing 1 or 2 crew is certainly hard to believe (around the 1:30min mark). 13kg+ of TNT filler is going to do more than that.
Well while others have mentioned most reasons already but ships tend to get less accurate the larger the ship is and coupled with extreme short ranges. Another mentioned the grey boxes for targeting but if this simulation had been done prior to 2.01 then the players would've had more luck as the old aiming UI you could range non targeted enemies yet unfortunately that's gone RIP, Another thing is if the Maus tanks were coded as AI/ ship players with a grey box the dreadnoughts might have had some luck.
Actually the maus was water tight but the crew would not last long because another maus would have to supply oxygen to it so the maus wouldn’t die instantly
How do you use these maps with ground vehicles? I'm asking, because I wan't to do a WT roleplay. So it would be very nice if you can tell me how I can do that. Btw nice Video. I've ever wondered what my favourite battleship can do against Maus tanks
Gaijin must listen to the community & I suggest that they add PVE events with AI infantry for tanks & ground vehicles to attack & to have fun with because air has that chance so why not give it to ground vehicles too??!!.. Anyways thank u for standing up for community❤pliz give ground vehicles the same fun as air has.. even if it is just same low tier Air arcade ground strike maps.. just let us have the ability to take break from PVP & stop milking us by using PVP as excuse❤23/5/2023 pliz listen to me gaijin Since u claim Warthunder is a realistic vehicular game then why can't we interact with AI infantry as ground targets.. don't use your regular +12 age excuse ..stop limiting fun for ground vehicles pliz gaijin u either give us this feature or u are wanting Warthunder to die..Thx to Muffin & other ContentCreators.. All that's missing is some ground targets & barrels & infantry AI for ground vehicles to shoot at... but gaijin & Warthunder are stupid cause they limit fun of ground vehicles while air has ground strike maps fun so why not letting ground vehicles of low br have same ground strike maps like air has???❤😂😂😂lmfao Check me at Warthunder game player name: Alh_r12❤❤❤I've been playing since 2019 & I payed for premium vehicles only on low tier but I've never played or payed premium account at all.. my max is mig 21smt & T54 1951 cuz i play for fun❤❤❤🎉😂😂😂hh lmfao Warthunder is good legendary game but just needs that extra fun to be allowed & freedom to spawn in any map for example if u want some solo fun by using a tank in air map
I'm so sad about how the WT naval ship weps work. Firing all canons in a barrage isn't and shouldn't be the default. And in reality, each turret had a gunner, so each shell could pick a different target and each could correct their aim. IRL, one Battleship with 10 guns would probably kill 10 Maus in max two shots per gun, especially when not moving.
Attempted#3 Hey i got a Idea, Sniper tanks vs Light Tanks!!! The Light Tanks try to get as close as they can and take out the Enemy Snipers. The Sniper tanks could be like the Chi-Ha LG or 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. or Tanks that are like this, ones with almost no armor but good at shooting at long range.
A bunch of Maus (Mouses ? Mice ?) would have zero chance against a Battleship as that would mean a destroyer would beat one as well. Even the secondary batteries of 6 inch guns would rip those tanks apart.
Meanwhile with me waiting for cold War and modern ships to coffee in and see how they will code their weapons to work against missiles, bombs, General Air defense as well coding in the 360 radar like Burke class
Depending on when it comes the most modern ship will be the Pr.20380 corvette laid down in 2001 seen on the same decal as the MiG-29. Anyway there's a few late 80's early-mid 90's vessels in game but at the end of the Cost'all TT, If you wanna start grinding those heh.
@@croskerk OOF My condolences heh... While the MTB's are fun as well as the subchasers & Minesweeper plus the gunboats but man don't touch the Tacoma class frigate with a 40ft pole for it's the very definition of shit and should be pulled from the game like the Town class 1940 was. Still USS Cyclone & the LCS(L)(3) are quite fun. Odd fact the LCS is the only vessel in game that went from Rank I to Rank V.
wyoming was using HE. thats why he collected all those kills. i think maus players should have used more he and focus on killing crew other than trying to pen bbs side.
The only people who considered it to be a battlecruiser was Britain and even then they changed their view after the war and classed it as a battleship.
I think we all know it was a matter of time before a Maus VS Ship video was made 😂
You know me too well!
@@ThunderWithMuffin Can you link the music you used in the description?
@@supremegreaser2399 I got it from a subscription service that specifically gives me access to copyright free music so not sure if it’ll be available anywhere else for finding but I can list the song names in case🤷🏼♂️
You mean landship vs ship?
The pier kinetic energy and velocity of those shells would tear those maus tanks apart
The helmsman at 2:16 holding a completely detached wheel is such a mood.
Imagine how awesome it would be if Gaijin does add in Yamato, Iowa, Bismarck, the Lion-class Battleship and more of the big ww2 era Battleships.
That would be cool
And the Prince of Wales so we could recreate the famous battle
That would be awsem
No way they still didn't added the most Famous warships in 2023
Chaos
Love the dock side being littered with shell impact marks
It's sad that there isn't such thing like kinetic energy
After one hit from battle ship into turret it should fly off
Exactly
The pier kinetic energy and velocity of those shells would tear those maus tanks apart
it would plow straight through the tin can
@@hertzwave8001 probably not, the maus has more armor than most battleships, and its turret weighs so much that it wouldn't fly off but would probably be permanently disabled.
@@lewildknight9864 Uhhh, excuse me, more armor than most battleship? Are you comparing the weight or the pure thickeness of the armor? HMS Warspite, a WWI battleship with modern refitted, her most thickness belt armor is 305mm. Kongo japanese battleship has a battlecruiser graded armor and waterline belt reaches up to 203mm. Her barbettes is 254mm. Most of these are aguably outdated battleship here, wait until you see the more modern one like KGV or Iowa.
Inaccuracy from bship guns is sowed because in ships we can aim accurately only when target is locked, and in this case I think bship is not able to lock target, so it's purely on luck and judgement.
Oh interesting
As the USS Wyoming, the event itself was fun but also boring due to how slow the initial setup was. Around half to a quarter of the time was wasted just getting the BBs in place. If this event was done again, it would better to expand out vehicle selection. Something like heavy tanks vs heavy cruisers or bigger. Definitely aim to have events where lots of participants can join since I find those to be the most fun.
Pure high explosive shells were the way to go in this event, couldn’t have gotten my 13 kills without them. I’d like to thank all the HE shells out there for their support and faith. I wish for all my HE fans the best of luck out there, you all deserve it and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. And I wish for your continuous support in future endeavors.
4:49 I just want to note that this kill was something. The dude was hiding behind two Mauses and was the one that died.
Ranging shots could have been used by the ships to fire shells in succession instead of all at once.
The Maus cannon is like a destroyer cannon with the Maus cannon having 120mm gun almost the same as a destroyer. So I think thats why the Maus is able to pen the first battleship and killing it
Actually almost exactly like a destroyer since german destroyers had 12.8cm guns, although a different variant since the maus main gun was developed from the 12.8cm Flak
YES! THIS IS THE PERFECT IDEA! This is the type of stuff I LIVE for lol.
you should do a video were you see if high altitude bombing or dive bombing or low level bombing is more effective against ships.
I would love to see that, it would be very cool.
2:08 wait that martincitopants the sticker
Looks like the HE rounds were more effective then the semi armor piercing, though I wonder what the AP rounds would have done.
Bruh nooo the maus with the:
Did you angle today?
Decal got killed first????...well the maus didnt angle so his fault isnt it
😂 I laughed when I saw that happen
@@ThunderWithMuffin hopefully Dollar doesnt see this 😂
When?
The Marlborough should have used HE imo. Its so powerful and would easily take out atleast 1-2 maus per brought side.
Even the Wyoming which has less than half of the TNT filler succeeded very well by using HE only
I was using mainly using SAP, the HE didn’t have enough pen
@@thecreature6662 the HE easily can destroy a maus. You just need to hit the turret the explosion hits the upper plate of the hull and the tank goes *bye bye*. The problem with the SAPCBC and the APCBC is the pen. As we’ve seen in the video the shells often either just went trough the entire tank or somehow bounced off. The HE explodes immediately and the tank is gone. As you can see in 4:46 even the Wyomings HE with only 33kg of TNT was able to vaporize the tanks. Now just imagine Marlboroughs 88kg TNT shell… It would have been a nightmare for the ground units
theres clearly some issue with how the ship shell impacts are being calculated on targets that small. lot of weird hits happening that the mauses were surviving with no damage at all
The thing is the Shells of the Main guns of a battleship would still turn the crew to soup due to impact vibration. Those tanks also would have been shoved around considerably. Even if there was a lack of penetration and the elimination of vibration then there is kinetic heat transfer from each shell that connects. Now what if it was HE shells only sure less penetration but those tanks would have been Flippin.
You should have done L3 vs Battleship as an April Fools Joke. 😂
Lol
@@ThunderWithMuffinwhat’s the map I wanna play this with my friends
Maus tank: "I am the heaviest vehicle with one of the biggest guns in the game."
Battleships: "That's cute."
I think the Wyoming could’ve schooled the whole Maus squad solo
Aww man, I missed this one! Would've loved to have participated with my Maus.
Next time I guess.
Was the HMS Dreadnought, the reason why we were getting low kills was that we were not using pure HE shells, I switched mid way through the batte copying the Wyoming to get those 3 kills. Also I'm not sure if the naval shells are interacting properly with tanks.
The fact that you can see one of Marlborough's AP shells penetrating a Maus turret and only killing 1 or 2 crew is certainly hard to believe (around the 1:30min mark). 13kg+ of TNT filler is going to do more than that.
amazing video man
Thank you!
Cruisers or destroyers vs is-2s mayb?
I think that might be pretty cool
They were considered accurate when measuring hits against the broadside of a barn... Ie, against other big ships. lol
I know I'm a tad late, but how do you get maps like these for custom games?
Well while others have mentioned most reasons already but ships tend to get less accurate the larger the ship is and coupled with extreme short ranges.
Another mentioned the grey boxes for targeting but if this simulation had been done prior to 2.01 then the players would've had more luck as the old aiming UI you could range non targeted enemies yet unfortunately that's gone RIP, Another thing is if the Maus tanks were coded as AI/ ship players with a grey box the dreadnoughts might have had some luck.
0:32 - 0:40 epic intro
Now we need a battleship vrs D I C K E R M A X
I would love to see the P1000 Ratte fight against a battleship
Was fun getting to spectate this game lol
Mfw the Maus is better armoured than most of the Kriegsmarines armoured cruisers...
Actually the maus was water tight but the crew would not last long because another maus would have to supply oxygen to it so the maus wouldn’t die instantly
Now im just waiting for the land battleship (char + 2C bis) vs battleship
It seems quite one-sided
Day 1 asking Muffin to play the Stug lll against modern vehicles
They should add the Yamato 18 In Guns
Cool vid
Thank you!
Chad martincitopants viewer spotted at 2:12
How do you use these maps with ground vehicles? I'm asking, because I wan't to do a WT roleplay. So it would be very nice if you can tell me how I can do that. Btw nice Video. I've ever wondered what my favourite battleship can do against Maus tanks
Scharnhorst was sunk in Norway
Gaijin must listen to the community & I suggest that they add PVE events with AI infantry for tanks & ground vehicles to attack & to have fun with because air has that chance so why not give it to ground vehicles too??!!.. Anyways thank u for standing up for community❤pliz give ground vehicles the same fun as air has.. even if it is just same low tier Air arcade ground strike maps.. just let us have the ability to take break from PVP & stop milking us by using PVP as excuse❤23/5/2023 pliz listen to me gaijin
Since u claim Warthunder is a realistic vehicular game then why can't we interact with AI infantry as ground targets.. don't use your regular +12 age excuse ..stop limiting fun for ground vehicles pliz gaijin u either give us this feature or u are wanting Warthunder to die..Thx to Muffin & other ContentCreators..
All that's missing is some ground targets & barrels & infantry AI for ground vehicles to shoot at... but gaijin & Warthunder are stupid cause they limit fun of ground vehicles while air has ground strike maps fun so why not letting ground vehicles of low br have same ground strike maps like air has???❤😂😂😂lmfao
Check me at Warthunder game player name: Alh_r12❤❤❤I've been playing since 2019 & I payed for premium vehicles only on low tier but I've never played or payed premium account at all.. my max is mig 21smt & T54 1951 cuz i play for fun❤❤❤🎉😂😂😂hh lmfao
Warthunder is good legendary game but just needs that extra fun to be allowed & freedom to spawn in any map for example if u want some solo fun by using a tank in air map
How do u create battles with ships and tanks simultaneously?
If you konw anythink new pls tell me i want do to this too
Video idea: Stabilisers VS Auto loaders (e.g. Centurion mk3 vs Somua SM)
I'm so sad about how the WT naval ship weps work. Firing all canons in a barrage isn't and shouldn't be the default. And in reality, each turret had a gunner, so each shell could pick a different target and each could correct their aim.
IRL, one Battleship with 10 guns would probably kill 10 Maus in max two shots per gun, especially when not moving.
Clickbait thumbnail of Texas she going to be in this game in the next update
why wasn't the battleship using it's AP rounds!!!
HE better. 36kg tnt in Wyoming HE raunds. 52 kg tnt in Dreadnought HE raunds. And 88kg tnt in Marlborough HE raunds
You should try M22s vs MAUS
Attempted#3
Hey i got a Idea, Sniper tanks vs Light Tanks!!! The Light Tanks try to get as close as they can and take out the Enemy Snipers. The Sniper tanks could be like the Chi-Ha LG or 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. or Tanks that are like this, ones with almost no armor but good at shooting at long range.
Your idea actually got a lot of votes on a previous vid so we’ll be doing the event this Friday for the vid
@@ThunderWithMuffin ohh sweat!!! i didnt think yall see my idea anytime soon and i love yalls videos soo cool.
@@ThunderWithMuffin If only i was off Friday, i join in the Event, but sadly i cant lol
@@crazyeen1564 we’ll make it a good vid hopefully at least:)
Was that martincitopants in the vid?
A bunch of Maus (Mouses ? Mice ?) would have zero chance against a Battleship as that would mean a destroyer would beat one as well.
Even the secondary batteries of 6 inch guns would rip those tanks apart.
Meanwhile with me waiting for cold War and modern ships to coffee in and see how they will code their weapons to work against missiles, bombs, General Air defense as well coding in the 360 radar like Burke class
Depending on when it comes the most modern ship will be the Pr.20380 corvette laid down in 2001 seen on the same decal as the MiG-29.
Anyway there's a few late 80's early-mid 90's vessels in game but at the end of the Cost'all TT, If you wanna start grinding those heh.
@@lordwintertown8284 i already am halfway done on US coastal
@@croskerk OOF My condolences heh... While the MTB's are fun as well as the subchasers & Minesweeper plus the gunboats but man don't touch the Tacoma class frigate with a 40ft pole for it's the very definition of shit and should be pulled from the game like the Town class 1940 was.
Still USS Cyclone & the LCS(L)(3) are quite fun.
Odd fact the LCS is the only vessel in game that went from Rank I to Rank V.
Next do the is7 vs top tear like the xm1 or abrams
Just proves how borked WT's damage model is.
It would be cool if there's sturmtiger vs battleship because sturmtiger have shell that have size like battleship cannon shell
The sturmtiger vs battleship video was already made. It’s this video: ruclips.net/video/QyICE56JYcU/видео.html
@@CatTop oh damn thanks mate
wyoming was using HE. thats why he collected all those kills. i think maus players should have used more he and focus on killing crew other than trying to pen bbs side.
they did not angle today...
Lol 😂awesome video how much time does take to create a custom battle like this
How can you do it?
literary 1812 line infantries vs tank
Scrapman/Catarinth song!!
How did you get tanks to be able to fight ships?
How do you do naval and tank custom battle?
Next p-1000 rate vs yamato 😂
Kv2s or sturmtigers vs uss iowa
What was the crew % left on the Wyoming?
As the scharnhorst player it was not very exciting. Maybe if it was arcade it would be better
Do Abrams vs Yamamoto or some battleship. Idk how many Abrams start with 4 or 5
The Abrams wouldn’t be able to do much.
how do i play ships vs tanks in a custom battle`?
Can you make a show of war thunder and news about wartunder?
How did you get the tanks on this map?
720p?
Not even using he shells. Over pressure kills would be many. Tanks are worthless without crew.
Scharnhorst👏is👏not👏a👏battlecruiser
It is.
The only people who considered it to be a battlecruiser was Britain and even then they changed their view after the war and classed it as a battleship.
@2:15 BOAT
I like yours videos
Thank you!
DAS MAUS HAUS KLUB HAUS
first comment? second viewer? bet
No offense, the soundmixing is bad, often i can't hear what you are saying
What if there was an sturmtigers
Hi daddy
Can i be in a Video from you
Of course
@@ThunderWithMuffin But i dont have Discord
@@ichmagzuge2747 oof, that’s the only way I let people know about events and when
In reality a battleship shell would’ve obliterated a maus with no issue
Fr
You do realize only 2 maus’s where ever built
You’re cute 🥰🥰🥰😘😘