Donut preparing a Tornado video: Gaijin working day and night to add the Tornado ECR and full EW mechanics just so he'll be forced to scrap the entire script:
9:20 No weight doesn't change how hard a turn is for the same amount of G's, G force is an acceleration result not force input so 24G will always be a lateral change of 235m/s regardless of if the missile weighs 1kg or 2000kg. What does change how sharp the missile can turn though is speed, so a missile travelling half as fast will take the same turn as a missile pulling twice the G.
This is espeacially noticeable when comparing the same missiles in different jets and airspeed. an AIM-9L launched from an A-10 or in a stallshot will have a way better time tracking a close offbore target than a 9L launched from an F-15 at mach 1.1. Despite being literally the same missile Think of the old F-16A flight model. Even if you pull the same 9G turn at both 800kph and 1100kph it would feel like the turn at 1100 kph is more 'stiff' because the turn rate and radius would be worse than the lower speed turn.
Donut videos in a nutshell: "This is the most definitive...oh shit update. Now its the most definitive... oh again? ok why not. NOW it's th-ok nvm im not making this video"
the fighter mafia's slander of the F111 and it's consequences have been a disaster for everyone who knows the A10's lackluster performance in Desert Storm. JUSTICE FOR MY BOY
@@peachybiscuits The F-111 did interdiction better than the A-10 (much better) but not CAS. The F-15, F-16, and F-18 were all better CAS platforms but that's a different discussion. Desert Storm was 95% interdiction and 5% CAS because aviation destroyed the entire Iraqi army before the very brief ground war. Therefore, the F-111 performed better in the conflict overall, but in the specific role of CAS the purpose-built A-10 was better - at least in the 90s before the proliferation of MANPADs.
@@paint4r Ok so I went into a deep dive into the performance of both aircraft in desert storm and the numbers are extremely confusing and don't quite match up and give a concrete answer. basically all the sources I saw credited the F-111 with around 1500 TANK and ARMOURED VEHICLES destroyed compared to the A-10s around 980 TANK kills and 1300 COMBAT VEHICLE kills. The problem with this is that 'Combat Vehicles' could literally be anything so ofc it would make the A-10 seem like it was more affective the F-111 stats are more specific to armoured vehicles, stuff like APCs and I cannot find anything more specific for the A-10. So seeming as the only comparable statistic I found was tank kills and in that case the F-111 was better. But overall I cant really say the statistics of the A-10 are a lot more vague but it does suggest to me the F-111 was used to take out heavier targets while the A-10 was used more against lighter-skinned assets as its also credited with the destruction of around 900 artillery pieces. So in a tank busting role the F-111 was better that's concrete imo, but overall I'm still not sure for certain whether the F-111 or A-10 was better OVERALL as a CAS platform. That's up to your interpretation Ok that's me done with talking about my special autistic interest
@@paint4r Indeed. But the F111 did the A10's job better in desert storm, despite not being a "tank hunter". The 30mm wasn't punching through tanks, and the A10 lacked a good sensor suite to identify ground targets. The pilot had to do it with his eyes. The F111 killed more tanks, flew more sorties, and had fewer friendly fire incidents. I also want to point out that MANPADS and SPAA were issues in desert storm since day one, weapon systems like the Igla had been in the middle east for a very long time by that point, and the A10s suffered because of it.
> the RMV, a plane with a radar far more powerful than any radar in the game as of now > One of the main objectives of the RMV program being the addition of the Mica IR, a missile way too strong for the current meta > Snail decided to add it anyway, with missiles it never carried operationally and a far weaker radar > essentially a copy of the 2000-D at 12.7 Great job Gaijin, great job.
Gaijin just casually dropping new planes that you’re covering a couple days before your guides has to be some of the craziest constant coincidences I’ve ever witnessed!
It's not a multirole like McNamara wanted and the Boeing 818 was better as a low altitude bomber. McNamara picked the 2nd best option out of spite and because he was retarded. Should have sent his own ass to Vietnam with project 100 000
Welp, good news. If Donut continues to do remakes of his meme guides like this, we can expect to see a new version of the MiG 23 added to the game in either the next patch or the one following depending on how quick he writes the script for that video.
sorry but the f111 is in absolutely 0 ways a failure. lol. Absolutely removed the entire Iraqi army. Roughly 80% of targets hit. Thing was a fucking menace. Closely followed by the tornados.
F-111 might have been a successful aircraft but the F-111 program (aka Tactical Fighter Experimental program) was absolutely a failure. F-111 was supposed to be the everything plane, but only ended up being an attacker/tactical bomber. Yes, it was very good in that role but it doesn't change the fact the US set out to develop an aircraft that could fulfill all roles to cut costs and instead ended up developing two different air superiority fighters (F-14 and F-15) and a very expensive attacker.
Bro fr haven't even finished the video and Gaijin made it outdated. *TWICE* . And he predicted it months ago yet it still caught him off guard Edit: *THRICE*
Good news They fixed the thrust verctoring issues with both the MICA and R73 as well as buffing the seekers on both allowing them to do 180s to chase after planes who pass you in a headon
Probably the thing that I am the most fed up with about any of the M2K's... As a M2K player and regretably French ; Please Gaijin add something else than the Tiger Meets camos they are fugly as hell and there is so much more original and prettier camos from local French military squadrons IRL...
10:51 D stands for doppler, because ut has a monopulse CW seeker. The F is made from the s530D specially for the Mirage F1 but the F1 couldnt fit a cw ellinuminater (sorry for shitty grammar) so it became a pulse seeker, the the F stands for F1
F111 was one of the best fast strike bombers America/Australia ever had which asides from looking cool, had great technology and great precision. The Tornado, specifically the F3, has one of the highest KD ratios in red flag ops in history.
37:11 The lunch warning work like this: -Sensors see a heat source like a rocket motor without EM lock so they can know its a FOX2 incoming -Sensors see a heat source like a rocket motor with EM lock so they can kno its a FOX 1 or FOX3 incoming Its why the RWR is screaming everytime when mates or foe flares. I don't know if the first option work in game but its work like thins IRL.
That's not how Gs work. A heavier missile won't pull more Gs than a lighter missile doing the same turn. However the faster a missile is going, the more Gs it needs to pull to turn at the same degrees/s.
The FRC goes so hard on the mirage 2000, one of my most favorite dog fights was me in my 2000 cs4 against a f16aj and I dunked on the other guy using FRC. All in a real match too it was wild.
I would recommend that you make and remake one vehicle review at a time, if another new ver gets added or older ones get tweaked. Only make these longer vers when you still haven't done a whole family of vehicles already. Love your reveiews.
This videos always make me want to play DCS again, the cinematic shots always look so good. Then i remember that DCS simulation is even worse as that of War Thunder... Only more buttons to click.
Ah great I've subbed with notifications on and the video DIDN'T appear in my notifications. Congratulations on being shadowbanned for not making slop drama content 👍
Thank you for the Opinion and Entertainment. ... not that I bought the Milan when on 50% sale to grind France for the M 2000's... or have had the S-4 when it was available for $19 near end of that event.....
Nope. a Rotary cannon has the entire barrell apparatus rotate, similar to the Vulkan or the GSh-6-30. A revolver cannon instead uses a cylinder with multiple chambers, similar to those of a revolver handgun, to speed up the loading-firing-ejection cycle. Examples include the Pontiac M39 cannons on the F-5 family, the DEFA 553 on the Mirage 2000, and the Mauser BK.27 on the Typhoon and Tornado.
@@DonutWithMustacheokay cool. Never heard anyone use the term revolver cannon so I was a bit confused. Thought maybe it was an ESL thing where you were calling it that because it revolves. While I have you here. Flares set off MAW because the system is looking for heat from missile exhaust. It's basically IRST without the T and when it detects a certain IR range it thinks "that's a missile". MAW can be triggered by rockets as well. Anything that produces visible flames can potentially trigger the system
It might have changed, but the book I'm reading about an A-10 Pilot in Desert Storm mentions the MAW system. He talks about how he kept getting launch warnings whenever his wingman fired a Maverick. So unless they've been upgraded somehow to distinguish between missiles fired at you and flares or missiles fired at something else, it means War Thunder is accurate.
"MISTER DONUT, A SECOND NEW MIRAGE HAS HIT THE DEV SERVER!!"
- LexTheMystic, 31st of October, 2024 A.D.
lmao XD
XDD@@AWACS_ROCKET
wtf?... Who leaves a dated signature in RUclips comments?...
Donut preparing a Tornado video:
Gaijin working day and night to add the Tornado ECR and full EW mechanics just so he'll be forced to scrap the entire script:
Surprise drop at 9:00pm on a saturday? Donut really thinks hes kendrick lamar
Am not complaining shit fire 🔥
MUSTAAAARDDD
MUUUUUUUSSSSSSTAAAAAAAARD
@@biodegradablexiao NGAS ACTING BAD BUT SOMEBODY GOTTA DO IT
The music choice and memes give me the feeling a certain someone has revisited project wingman recently.
9:20 No weight doesn't change how hard a turn is for the same amount of G's, G force is an acceleration result not force input so 24G will always be a lateral change of 235m/s regardless of if the missile weighs 1kg or 2000kg. What does change how sharp the missile can turn though is speed, so a missile travelling half as fast will take the same turn as a missile pulling twice the G.
This is espeacially noticeable when comparing the same missiles in different jets and airspeed. an AIM-9L launched from an A-10 or in a stallshot will have a way better time tracking a close offbore target than a 9L launched from an F-15 at mach 1.1. Despite being literally the same missile
Think of the old F-16A flight model. Even if you pull the same 9G turn at both 800kph and 1100kph it would feel like the turn at 1100 kph is more 'stiff' because the turn rate and radius would be worse than the lower speed turn.
Donut videos in a nutshell: "This is the most definitive...oh shit update. Now its the most definitive... oh again? ok why not. NOW it's th-ok nvm im not making this video"
17:00
Prez supremacy confirmed
+ respect
the fighter mafia's slander of the F111 and it's consequences have been a disaster for everyone who knows the A10's lackluster performance in Desert Storm. JUSTICE FOR MY BOY
What do you mean by that comparison those two aircraft had completely different roles
Lmao you act like the f-111 didn't do the a-10's job better and then it's own unique rolls on top @@paint4r
@@peachybiscuits The F-111 did interdiction better than the A-10 (much better) but not CAS. The F-15, F-16, and F-18 were all better CAS platforms but that's a different discussion.
Desert Storm was 95% interdiction and 5% CAS because aviation destroyed the entire Iraqi army before the very brief ground war. Therefore, the F-111 performed better in the conflict overall, but in the specific role of CAS the purpose-built A-10 was better - at least in the 90s before the proliferation of MANPADs.
@@paint4r Ok so I went into a deep dive into the performance of both aircraft in desert storm and the numbers are extremely confusing and don't quite match up and give a concrete answer. basically all the sources I saw credited the F-111 with around 1500 TANK and ARMOURED VEHICLES destroyed compared to the A-10s around 980 TANK kills and 1300 COMBAT VEHICLE kills. The problem with this is that 'Combat Vehicles' could literally be anything so ofc it would make the A-10 seem like it was more affective the F-111 stats are more specific to armoured vehicles, stuff like APCs and I cannot find anything more specific for the A-10. So seeming as the only comparable statistic I found was tank kills and in that case the F-111 was better. But overall I cant really say the statistics of the A-10 are a lot more vague but it does suggest to me the F-111 was used to take out heavier targets while the A-10 was used more against lighter-skinned assets as its also credited with the destruction of around 900 artillery pieces. So in a tank busting role the F-111 was better that's concrete imo, but overall I'm still not sure for certain whether the F-111 or A-10 was better OVERALL as a CAS platform. That's up to your interpretation
Ok that's me done with talking about my special autistic interest
@@paint4r Indeed. But the F111 did the A10's job better in desert storm, despite not being a "tank hunter". The 30mm wasn't punching through tanks, and the A10 lacked a good sensor suite to identify ground targets. The pilot had to do it with his eyes. The F111 killed more tanks, flew more sorties, and had fewer friendly fire incidents. I also want to point out that MANPADS and SPAA were issues in desert storm since day one, weapon systems like the Igla had been in the middle east for a very long time by that point, and the A10s suffered because of it.
> the RMV, a plane with a radar far more powerful than any radar in the game as of now
> One of the main objectives of the RMV program being the addition of the Mica IR, a missile way too strong for the current meta
> Snail decided to add it anyway, with missiles it never carried operationally and a far weaker radar
> essentially a copy of the 2000-D at 12.7
Great job Gaijin, great job.
Its 4am but idgaf, im watching this even if it lasts 2 hours
Lmao
THE KILLZONE REFERENCE IS A CHEF'S KISS
Brilliant work as always Donut
Gaijin just casually dropping new planes that you’re covering a couple days before your guides has to be some of the craziest constant coincidences I’ve ever witnessed!
Im starting to think Gaijin might have an inside man on his discord lmao
the tornado actually fulfilled it's primary role very very good, as a low level interdictor bomber
its a joke bro
if anyone was wondering what the song for the opening cinematic was like me, it is calledドリフトシティエボリューション OP I Can't Stop (高音質）
You dropped this. 👑
3:05 WOAH HOLD ON THE F-111 IS AMAZING
It's not a multirole like McNamara wanted and the Boeing 818 was better as a low altitude bomber. McNamara picked the 2nd best option out of spite and because he was retarded. Should have sent his own ass to Vietnam with project 100 000
DOOFENSHMIRTZ EVIL AARDVARK
The scrolling end credits with that song slaps. Looks so nice and cool too.
doesnt that scroll fuck? love it
Welp, good news. If Donut continues to do remakes of his meme guides like this, we can expect to see a new version of the MiG 23 added to the game in either the next patch or the one following depending on how quick he writes the script for that video.
Yesss mig 23 98
My brother in Christ, the production quality of your videos is so high it's on another plane of existence. Keep this shit up!
never thought i would see a alphamaxnova reference in your video Donut, colour me impressed
sorry but the f111 is in absolutely 0 ways a failure. lol. Absolutely removed the entire Iraqi army. Roughly 80% of targets hit. Thing was a fucking menace. Closely followed by the tornados.
My brother in Pontiac, this is a MEME guide
@@Tigershark_3082 Just because it's a meme guide doesn't mean he should get things straight uo wrong
@@Tigershark_3082yeah a meme guide that isn’t even funny or factual
F-111 might have been a successful aircraft but the F-111 program (aka Tactical Fighter Experimental program) was absolutely a failure.
F-111 was supposed to be the everything plane, but only ended up being an attacker/tactical bomber. Yes, it was very good in that role but it doesn't change the fact the US set out to develop an aircraft that could fulfill all roles to cut costs and instead ended up developing two different air superiority fighters (F-14 and F-15) and a very expensive attacker.
f-111 was plagued by constant reliability issues and was an engineering nightmare.
Love your work. Always excited when a long awaited video drops…the production quality is insane.
its all over the screen now
What a plane to be introduced to your channel with. Time to add all the others to watch later.
Bro fr haven't even finished the video and Gaijin made it outdated. *TWICE* . And he predicted it months ago yet it still caught him off guard
Edit: *THRICE*
What is third time? Did Gajin add another Mirage 2000 variant after those 2 from last update?
@madkoala2130 eclair countermeasures dispenser
Donut thinking his Mirage 2K vid will no longer would be outdated:
Gaijin: "Whoa- US premium Arab Emirate Mirage be apon ye~"
Good news
They fixed the thrust verctoring issues with both the MICA and R73 as well as buffing the seekers on both allowing them to do 180s to chase after planes who pass you in a headon
Probably the thing that I am the most fed up with about any of the M2K's... As a M2K player and regretably French ;
Please Gaijin add something else than the Tiger Meets camos they are fugly as hell and there is so much more original and prettier camos from local French military squadrons IRL...
THIS. THE -5F EVEN HAS TWO TIGER MEET CAMOS INSTEAD OF ONE
The 530F got a massive buff recently so now it is relatively chaff resistant
So now it's pretty good
@@djxthunder9631for real? :o
Damn, I have to try it
Is it? Didn't feel different
HES A PROJECT WINGMAN FAN LETS GOOOOO
God man, I love your videos. Always makes my day.
The Scolar Visari impression was pretty nice XD
10:51
D stands for doppler, because ut has a monopulse CW seeker.
The F is made from the s530D specially for the Mirage F1 but the F1 couldnt fit a cw ellinuminater (sorry for shitty grammar) so it became a pulse seeker, the the F stands for F1
I love it when my favorite danger dorito gets some well deserved love
I swear, If PW decides to add cinematics to the game one day, they should hire this guy for it.
bro made a French Dorito look like the coolest thing France has ever made. 💀
As it should be ! 🚬🗿🇫🇷❤️
2000-5 intro speech is sooooo supreme leader Visari. Love the Killzone reference
I remember the times where both the magic and the super 530 were doing the missile shaker... damn they've come a long way those missiles
45 years of Mirage 2000 in 2023 and Super Mirage 4000 in 2024 and 70 years of Mirage series in 2026.
grinding out the m2kcs4 has been my best event pick so far its so fun to play
I want them to add a Greek M2K for Italy so I can play it without having to play anything french
F111 was one of the best fast strike bombers America/Australia ever had which asides from looking cool, had great technology and great precision. The Tornado, specifically the F3, has one of the highest KD ratios in red flag ops in history.
I yearn for the day our copilots have some form of AI voicing like Jester.
They just dropped the thai subtree so probably bro was working on a F5, Alpha Jet or Su-27 family meme guide
meme guides are always a instant watch
37:11 The lunch warning work like this:
-Sensors see a heat source like a rocket motor without EM lock so they can know its a FOX2 incoming
-Sensors see a heat source like a rocket motor with EM lock so they can kno its a FOX 1 or FOX3 incoming
Its why the RWR is screaming everytime when mates or foe flares.
I don't know if the first option work in game but its work like thins IRL.
those missile doges in 12:14 was smooth
LIES ABOUT THE F-111! JUSTICE FOR THE VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
That's not how Gs work. A heavier missile won't pull more Gs than a lighter missile doing the same turn. However the faster a missile is going, the more Gs it needs to pull to turn at the same degrees/s.
15:21 ''Éclair'' also means lightning btw
The music in these is always peak omg 🥹
13:37 "bravo, please update our Windows" 😭😭
DRIFT CITY REFERENCE!!!!
17:40 historically accurate mirage loadout name
"I'm going to talk about it and you can't stop me."
Well I could literally stop the video, but I don't want to.
The Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly cameos had me rolling
As a french, thanks for the good roast and one of the best wt video of all time.
36:13 GuP mentioned
36:13 ALGERIA MENTIONED 1-2-3 VIVA L'ALGÉRIE RAAAHHHHH 🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿
certified s🅱innala video
we should get a viggen guide or f15 guide next
1Am in Argentina? Idc I'm going to watch this whole thing again!
Wasn’t expecting the Alpine professional tractor drivers to make an appearance.
26:40 the chat convo is hella funny
hadn't even been 2 days since the vid dropped and look what we have in the leaks :)
Bruh this puts into perspective of the British phantoms at 12.0 with only Skyflashes and Aim9Gs
20:33 chill out mr donut, we got Leo 2s now for French top tier. Which is actually depressing
6:58 YOOOO WTF IS THAT PROJECT WINGMAN INTRO??? I'M ALREADY WET WITHOUT BEEN A FUCKING GIRL!!!! XDDDDD
16:24 lmao that was indeed a way to win
29:20 is that a fucking Killzone reference?
The FRC goes so hard on the mirage 2000, one of my most favorite dog fights was me in my 2000 cs4 against a f16aj and I dunked on the other guy using FRC. All in a real match too it was wild.
i was not expecting that project wingman reference
I would recommend that you make and remake one vehicle review at a time, if another new ver gets added or older ones get tweaked. Only make these longer vers when you still haven't done a whole family of vehicles already. Love your reveiews.
Idk how the 2000 is supposed to sound, but it is EXTREMELY loud in-game
Baguette flavored doritos!
Pierre Gasly references
I do see you finally realised you can mention what music you are playing
The memes, the music, it all perfect
Finally a good Reloaded guide
the d coming before f thing is so true 😂
Weight has nothing to do with g overload, it's only angular rate and velocity that factors in
eyyy prez mentioned
6 AM and WE GOT DORITOS, AGAIN. I can't wake up a better sunday morning.
french prez is about the most cursed thought ive ever had
edit: did you come up with the speech at 31:20 or is it a reference to something?
This videos always make me want to play DCS again, the cinematic shots always look so good. Then i remember that DCS simulation is even worse as that of War Thunder... Only more buttons to click.
Note: The Mirage 2000Ds now feature a ground radar
"Wheres the ULTRAKILL mus- ah there we go"
Hell yeah finally a new Meme Guide
Ah great I've subbed with notifications on and the video DIDN'T appear in my notifications. Congratulations on being shadowbanned for not making slop drama content 👍
The virgin gbu airfield "troller" vs Chad strafe runner (probs in f 104)
The videos are so high quality that it isnt about wt or planes anymore
Delta doritos r my favorite. Love me a Mirage IIIS C.70, Kfir c.10, IAI Nammer or an Atlas Cheetah E
Damn now that's a good channel
Thank you for the Opinion and Entertainment. ... not that I bought the Milan when on 50% sale to grind France for the M 2000's... or have had the S-4 when it was available for $19 near end of that event.....
as a f111 glazer i am mildly offended, still a good video tho
and now the rafale is here and even better !
"release the -5"
"The what?"
well fuck... does this mean i change after Italy tree to French...
eclair, next to being a yummy dessert also means Flash, Lightning or Flash of Lightning
Revolver cannon?.... Do you mean rotary cannon?
Nope. a Rotary cannon has the entire barrell apparatus rotate, similar to the Vulkan or the GSh-6-30.
A revolver cannon instead uses a cylinder with multiple chambers, similar to those of a revolver handgun, to speed up the loading-firing-ejection cycle. Examples include the Pontiac M39 cannons on the F-5 family, the DEFA 553 on the Mirage 2000, and the Mauser BK.27 on the Typhoon and Tornado.
@@DonutWithMustacheokay cool. Never heard anyone use the term revolver cannon so I was a bit confused. Thought maybe it was an ESL thing where you were calling it that because it revolves.
While I have you here. Flares set off MAW because the system is looking for heat from missile exhaust. It's basically IRST without the T and when it detects a certain IR range it thinks "that's a missile". MAW can be triggered by rockets as well. Anything that produces visible flames can potentially trigger the system
It might have changed, but the book I'm reading about an A-10 Pilot in Desert Storm mentions the MAW system. He talks about how he kept getting launch warnings whenever his wingman fired a Maverick. So unless they've been upgraded somehow to distinguish between missiles fired at you and flares or missiles fired at something else, it means War Thunder is accurate.
3:38
It's prettier than any normal Mirage tbh.
a yes the seacond seater passenger also call me his stuff mufin