Video class, I definitely like it! But it seems to me that using heavy bombers as attack aircraft is not quite right. Instead of gaining altitude, they, on the contrary, fell under the crossfire of anti-aircraft installations))
I love these vids but they would be so much better with some structure. Like have the bombers spread out and stay at the same elevation in formation. Have the AA spread and post up in positions not just driving all over hell and creation shooting.
I've noticed that in a lot of the plane vs AA videos I've seen that the AA always clusters together, not bunched up but close enough that their guns create a wall of fire which is also close enough for a bomb to take out multiple units. So I've got 2 ideas for if you choose to revisit this challenge: 1) I'd like to see where a small group is sitting off a good distance from the main group creating a crossfire, it sounds like a good idea in theory but would like to see how it pans out. 2) I'd like to see if some players could try to use the terrain to their advantage and 2 small groups break off to try and flank them from either side. So the main group circles in a holding pattern until the smaller groups can get in position to come in from the left and right sides, once in position all 3 groups converge on the targets. At least this way the AA should be overwhelmed.
I want to know what it would look like if you got an entire Server to fly F.222.2 and have everybode line up wing to wing, and then do a coordinated drop. Like that would be so many bombs falling through the sky.
One thing I noticed playing warthunder and many other FPS shooter games, people don’t understand how to use AA or leading and tracking, all the rounds going way behind the bombers they’re aiming at is a sign of this, there’s a reason why you have .50s on the top of most US tanks, they’re anti aircraft guns lmao. I think people should really invest in learning the button to aim just the aa .50 and you’ll do better with most AA over time and be able to defend yourself and team mates.
Ya well no bomber drops bombs from under 2000m.. that's an attacker CAS thing. All the MG's and even 20mm would barely reach them if they flew at proper height. Only the bigger guns would reach them, with any accuracy.
I think giving the AA a set space to hide in would balance things out. If an AA is hiding and moving, it’s rly hard for a big f22222222 to hit it. Then u could have a bunch of f22222 go in formation and just carpet bomb da heck out of them :)
I'm sure the last one woulda been different if all the spaas were modern spaas. Like all brrrr or Tunguska. Also I wonder if Santa did exist but got shot down by aa fire once🤔
G'day, Watching these duel videos has made me remember an idea that could work for a battle. Clemson class destroyer USS Lichfield DD-336 Vs Kawasaki Ki-32 light bomber. In this fight the DD-336 would have to rely on it's sole AA the 3"/23 Mk.4 which has a HE-DF shell, Meanwhile the bombers get their speed and agility with 9×50kg bombs. I tested this with four players once and prior to the AA shell introduction yet with two mass teams of players it would be glorious. Hmm if looking at the video if the AA had accounted for a higher alt and teamed up to make flak batteries with barrels around 40 mm the carnage would've been over sooner with timed barrages against single threats vs the absolute mayhem yet mayhem is cooler to watch. Still another thought would be howitzers Vs bombers especially things like the Bkan C1..
They are high altitude bombers so at least 1500 m SPAA's should only get limited area to move (realistic condition) Bombers should move in formation and they could level entire map in single run In short,this was just dumb
I’ve always wanted to see what would happen if everyone called arty on the same spot at the same time
Same tbh
I think Iron Armenian made a video about that once
13:41 what a cinematic view, woah
It's looks like a game cutscene before you transition to your own aircraft
I loved participating in this event, it was so much fun and so much chaos! Thanks everyone!
We’re you a bomber or AA?
@@evanjohnson555 Anti Air. In the 1st battle i was a lone AA hiding in a bush. 2:19 on the right side near a tree.
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️*only in Ohio*
It's always good when people get invited into muffins games had great fun
The editing in this video was just amazing. At some points I felt like I was watching a movie. The music made it even better.
It's been a honor being a part of this video
You really should do a battle where there is ships, tanks and planes. That would mean many battles going on at once and so much stuff going on.
thats like rock paper scissors with 3 people and everyone takes a different one
Gaijin used to often do such events, AA against aircrafts. Planes have always won, since anti-aircraft guns are very weak and oblique.
You know a wise man that was wiser than me said " if you have no ammo become the ammo " and that's what I think I saw with one of the bombers
😂
Would love to join one of these events, but living in AUS means they begin late in the evening or early early in the morning.
Same. :[
Same with NZ
same
yeah i fell you man i woke up at 5:30 AM NZST to participate. But i had fun so i dont mind. thanks Muffin!
I don’t live in either AUS or NZ time zones, but what if Muffin did a special event for players in your time zone?
I loved particapating to this event, it was amazing, thanks Muffin !
Video class, I definitely like it! But it seems to me that using heavy bombers as attack aircraft is not quite right. Instead of gaining altitude, they, on the contrary, fell under the crossfire of anti-aircraft installations))
Genuinely the only channel I actually get excited for when they upload
I love these vids but they would be so much better with some structure. Like have the bombers spread out and stay at the same elevation in formation. Have the AA spread and post up in positions not just driving all over hell and creation shooting.
That is boring as hell ... be a big turkey shoot having the bomber same elevation and formation .. sheesh
13:34 Cold wear
I've noticed that in a lot of the plane vs AA videos I've seen that the AA always clusters together, not bunched up but close enough that their guns create a wall of fire which is also close enough for a bomb to take out multiple units.
So I've got 2 ideas for if you choose to revisit this challenge:
1) I'd like to see where a small group is sitting off a good distance from the main group creating a crossfire, it sounds like a good idea in theory but would like to see how it pans out.
2) I'd like to see if some players could try to use the terrain to their advantage and 2 small groups break off to try and flank them from either side. So the main group circles in a holding pattern until the smaller groups can get in position to come in from the left and right sides, once in position all 3 groups converge on the targets. At least this way the AA should be overwhelmed.
hope we see strat bombers vs naval at some point
Could you please do a world War event?
I love you're videos
I want to know what it would look like if you got an entire Server to fly F.222.2 and have everybode line up wing to wing, and then do a coordinated drop. Like that would be so many bombs falling through the sky.
Muffin should actually do that it might be epic
B-17 vs flak 88 next
I was the first bomber to release bombs in round 1
I love your commentary and cinematics, they are epic
This was so much fun, thanks for this great upload!
Wow this was so cool to watch! I wish I had time to participate in these videos
As soon as I have internet again, I'm getting back into Warthunder
Could you do cold war us vs ussr for your next video? Love the content man keep it up
I think i should specify tanks is what in asking for
@@boogwa9928 yes cause cold war is like late WW2 Tanks like m26, panzer 4, IS 3 to Abrams, Leopard,...
Came across this channel a few hours ago and can't stop watching lol
The accuracy of some SPAA players hurts my Brain. 8:36
I absolutely love the anti air vs plane videos you make the are so cool
You could literally make an epic story behind the battles
Night bonus was pure chaos xD
Last round was my favorite simply just because of the look of aa tracers at night
Atlast, my long awaited message of having a nightraid in this type of video has happen
Flak 88 vs B-17s?
Love this video but holy shit the AA could not aim for their lives
Next video: kungelblitz (that one German aa) vs zsu_57_2.
Man this video is amazing . I wish i want to play too in the next event.
Need to see a PE8 only run haha
Got one for you! You already did it on wot...American T34 vs a gaggle of Russian t34s. I'm guessing the little t34s will win but it'll still be fun.
No you didn't show my kill with the bomber's machin gun at the end of round 3, it was so hilarious
This was fun being in the event, would u do a event of p47 thunderbolt vs a10 thunderbolt 2
The Farman is such a sexy aircraft imo
Great video as always
Make 100x KV2 heavy tank vs 1 modern tank.
I love your videos.And are you going to make a video about low-rank tank battles ?
Thank you and I do have something planned:)
@@ThunderWithMuffinI'm looking forward 😅🤭
So jealous not participating in the events
I can't believe there was no m163 in that last fight
Не хватает моменты от лица игроков, реплей багнутый 😀 amazing video
Next video, make a fleet of ships against bombers of ww2
Is this only pc? Id love to play along, amd do you nees to own the vehicle
look at the altitude, all aircraft on the first run were above 700m
ahaha, I love how I got a special cut of my aa getting corrected xD
U should do this again with the swordfish
Nice
One thing I noticed playing warthunder and many other FPS shooter games, people don’t understand how to use AA or leading and tracking, all the rounds going way behind the bombers they’re aiming at is a sign of this, there’s a reason why you have .50s on the top of most US tanks, they’re anti aircraft guns lmao. I think people should really invest in learning the button to aim just the aa .50 and you’ll do better with most AA over time and be able to defend yourself and team mates.
How about WW2 bombers vs modern AA guns?
Personally I feel simulating the battle of midway would be a SICK video
Good
do this but with the ju 88, those things are scary and fun to fly
This should be made a new gamemode in war thunder
Ya well no bomber drops bombs from under 2000m.. that's an attacker CAS thing. All the MG's and even 20mm would barely reach them if they flew at proper height. Only the bigger guns would reach them, with any accuracy.
i love this video
You should do some sort of bombers vs heavy flak guns like the Yag-10 or 8.8cm flak
This is fuckin epic wtff
You should do 15 BV238 in formation vs a lot of allied fighters or something
Could you just imagine if these types of battles were actually part of the game? They level of chaos would keep propel coming back again and again.
Flak 88 vs bomber waves would be awesome. as it was designed for hitting formations
I'm here
Next do 1 most advanced jet in game vs 20 SPAA WW2
I'm curious
All I'm gonna say it WOW!
i think doing the same thing with b-17s or b-29 would have drastically changed the results maybe even lancaster
An we talk about the typo in infinite? It was 'infinate'
This was my favorite plane on console. Got lots of kills, air and AI ground
I think giving the AA a set space to hide in would balance things out. If an AA is hiding and moving, it’s rly hard for a big f22222222 to hit it.
Then u could have a bunch of f22222 go in formation and just carpet bomb da heck out of them :)
video idea
x5-6 B-17G vs x30 WW2 Biplanes
Note : Bombers only use *Fully Upgraded* AI Gunners, no player Control
Not what bombers are for tbf, strike aircraft prob would have been better. Class vid though 👍👍
I'm sure the last one woulda been different if all the spaas were modern spaas. Like all brrrr or Tunguska. Also I wonder if Santa did exist but got shot down by aa fire once🤔
I would honestly want to see this, but instead of any SPAA below 3.0, I would like to see the SPAA being limited to the 88mm Flak trucks only.
Can you guys do ships vs dive bombers
what about b-17 vs 88flal with time fuze only?
you should do this but with b17s
How do you join one of the events I would love to join one
Join my discord. The link is in the description of my vids
I love the cold ware
Now do it but use B17 vs Flak 8,8 and wirbel and ostwind or even both
I really want to see biplanes vs multiple BV 238s. No 20mm allowed 😂
1500m at least ☹️☹️
They are high altitude bombers
I have a video ideas b 29s vs modern spaa battle
Same thing but using B-29A-BN (40x500lbs) vs 7.0 AAA
Or ship vs air?
G'day, Watching these duel videos has made me remember an idea that could work for a battle.
Clemson class destroyer USS Lichfield DD-336 Vs Kawasaki Ki-32 light bomber.
In this fight the DD-336 would have to rely on it's sole AA the 3"/23 Mk.4 which has a HE-DF shell, Meanwhile the bombers get their speed and agility with 9×50kg bombs.
I tested this with four players once and prior to the AA shell introduction yet with two mass teams of players it would be glorious.
Hmm if looking at the video if the AA had accounted for a higher alt and teamed up to make flak batteries with barrels around 40 mm the carnage would've been over sooner with timed barrages against single threats vs the absolute mayhem yet mayhem is cooler to watch.
Still another thought would be howitzers Vs bombers especially things like the Bkan C1..
More ship vs ground videos?
Yep more to come:)
Can you do 10vs10 Type 75 arty battles
not sure the btr 152 should have counted for the ww2 aa, since it came into service during the cold war
Im surprised nobody used an arado because it was a ww2 jet bomber
They are high altitude bombers so at least 1500 m
SPAA's should only get limited area to move (realistic condition)
Bombers should move in formation and they could level entire map in single run
In short,this was just dumb
Rumbling in WT xD
video idea pe-8 vs modern AA
Can you try to use flak cannon to destroy the bomber it would been fun ngl?
"Night Choas Round"
Yall ever realize that the f222 with the 50s is just the saltbae of bombers
Name of the music?