@@odesangel That pond is not that big nor is it very deep. Someone was not doing their job at the time of so call searching. especially when they were able to drain it quickly.
Don't you notice the single thing about EVERY SINGLE crime podcast or documentary. The police do a horrible job at the most basic level of investigating every single time. It's a miracle any crime gets solved.
@@markn8535 it's crazy right. Look at the size of that pond, i mean geezzz it's barely the size 2 volleyball fields, and there must have been tracks in the grass leading to the pond. Is it lazyness or stupidity or cover-up?
I wonder how many other people are currently in vehicles, resting at the bottom of ponds, swamps, creeks, rivers, and lakes, that family, friends and colleagues eventually assumed the missing person(s) just met with foul play.
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm. Adventures With Purpose was a good channel to watch concerning these sorts of cold case recovery missions, but unfortunately the co-founder of the company isn’t a very nice person in reality & committed actual crimes of his own. However I’m content from former employee Josh Cantu, who is very passionate about resuming & documenting the good work once AWP stops trying to seek “revenge” via lawsuit (very long story if you’re unfamiliar lol, but excited to see more work from former employees like Josh & Doug once all the unnecessary legal hoopla ceases!)
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm. Adventures With Purpose was a good channel to watch concerning these sorts of cold case recovery missions, but unfortunately the co-founder of the company isn’t a very nice person in reality & committed actual crimesof his own. However I’m content from former employee Josh Cantu, who is very passionate about resuming & documenting the good work once AWP stops trying to seek “revenge” via lawsuit (very long story if you’re unfamiliar lol, but excited to see more work from former employees like Josh & Doug once all the unnecessary legal hoopla ceases!)
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
Come on how deep is this pond. 1980 wasn't the stone ages. How much jewelry was uncovered? Tire tracks into the pond or did a large Lincoln not leave tire tracks in the 80's?
I don't know...I'm not normally a jump to conclusions, arm chair detective, suspicious for no reason type, but something about this just doesn't sound right. I guess if we knew what the area surrounding the hotel and pond looked like in 1980 it might be easier to buy that the old guy simply just accidentally drove them into it, but still...where's the jewelry? Have they been able to recover that, as well? If not, I might not want to consider this an entirely open and shut case (only 44 years after the fact). That said, I'm glad their family at least knows what became of them and can bury them properly now.
How big was the pomd back then? Did they accelerate so much that they flew off the parking lot and into the pond without leaving tire tracks? (Possible).
While I am happy for the family that their loved ones were found, honestly, I would highly suggest a trusted family member accompany elderly loved ones who are traveling and in general, because they are preyed upon in this society. I speak from personal experience.😶
I live here and we have "borrow" pits everywhere in Brunswick. They "borrow" dirt from places and us it to build rollways, exits, or wherever they need to build up. Ive ridden past this pond thousands of times and there is an ongoing search of 12 of these "ponds" as we speak. Trust me when i say its very erie and sad bc this is my home. I hope this investigation is thorough and the family has closure.
Not necessarily. If they were murdered, the people of interest are often those with the most to gain. What better place than away from home? The wealthy snowbirds I knew used the same route, stayed at the same hotels for years. Even though it was before cell phones, their families knew where they were going to be staying while traveling. One couple from NYC had their winter home in Southern Florida, a condo in coastal NC that was their spring/summer home and maintained their NYC apartment to be with family and friends for the holidays. They routinely drove between locations and were in their late 70’s. They were an interesting couple!
And you have obviously never ever been wealthy!! When you are wealthy...everyone is the enemy...everyone wants your money. Surprisingly you have a steal your face logo...but you are not a very grateful person to insult others on their thoughts. For shame.
This is what happens when people make assumptions. The police and media assumed that their wealth had something to do with their disappearance when they probably just accidentally drove their car into the pond after a big night out. A simple, logical reason, but those conspiracy theorists couldn't leave it alone then, and it would appear they can't leave it alone now.
Do you think that’s what happened? At first I thought maybe they wrecked and lost control falling into the pond but it was only in the parking lot behind the hotel that makes no sense. I think someone pushed that car in the lake
@@hdskl2150there’s been tons of instances of elderly people hitting the gas pedal instead of the brake and running into buildings. It’s very plausible the same could happen to a pond next to a parking lot. And once the water starts flowing in, if there’s nobody around to help then yeah, they’re done for.
It's terrible how long they took to look at the pool. At this point, many cold cases have been solved by checking the nearby body of water. This should happen regularly to solve cold cases. I'm sure they can find a way to fund the endeavors.
Wow 😳. GOD is good. They can have closure. RIP 💐🫶🏻🫶🏻💐 Surely the arm of the LORD isnt too short to save, nor His ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have built barriers between you and your GOD, and your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He does not hear. 1 Peter 1:9 The reward for trusting him will be the salvation of your souls. Repent and believe in the LORD Jesus Christ.
@@lemondropkid6175 GOD is Spirit. But Christ Jesus does. He's the image of the invisible GOD. "Colossians 1:15" Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation, Revelation 19:12: "His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems". Revelation 2:18: "The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze Christ Jesus is God Almighty
If citizens half to have proper barricades and safety measures around their own personal pools on their property, when are other bodies of water going to get the same attention? These ponds and lakes need to have protective barriers or small poles spaces every few feet around them to prevent these things
I hope this news gives their families some peace. It's madness the car was missed in the search 40 years ago.
They are just now looking in the pond BEHIND the hotel 🤦🏾♀️
It's mentioned that divers checked the pond, which was probably too murky to see the bottom.
I was thinking the same thing...
@@odesangel That pond is not that big nor is it very deep. Someone was not doing their job at the time of so call searching. especially when they were able to drain it quickly.
@@itscallietaylor- They said divers searched the pond. The technology wasn't available in the 80s.
@@andrex8704- How deep would it be to send divers in?? I don't know too much about diving..
Driving home from Florida? They never left the hotel. Cannot believe that tiny pond was never properly drained in four decades.
Poor old couple.
I’m with you I can’t believe that pond was never drained. Something just seems off.
Could’ve committed suicide 😢
Don't you notice the single thing about EVERY SINGLE crime podcast or documentary. The police do a horrible job at the most basic level of investigating every single time. It's a miracle any crime gets solved.
@@markn8535Lazy policing I think.
@@markn8535 it's crazy right. Look at the size of that pond, i mean geezzz it's barely the size 2 volleyball fields, and there must have been tracks in the grass leading to the pond. Is it lazyness or stupidity or cover-up?
That’s a pretty small pond. I can’t believe they checked it and didn’t see the car.
@1:47 Newspaper states they were traveling with $150,000 in jewelry, sounds like motive enough for some people.
I heard in an earlier story a lot of jewelry was recovered.
I wonder how many other people are currently in vehicles, resting at the bottom of ponds, swamps, creeks, rivers, and lakes, that family, friends and colleagues eventually assumed the missing person(s) just met with foul play.
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
Adventures With Purpose was a good channel to watch concerning these sorts of cold case recovery missions, but unfortunately the co-founder of the company isn’t a very nice person in reality & committed actual crimes of his own. However I’m content from former employee Josh Cantu, who is very passionate about resuming & documenting the good work once AWP stops trying to seek “revenge” via lawsuit (very long story if you’re unfamiliar lol, but excited to see more work from former employees like Josh & Doug once all the unnecessary legal hoopla ceases!)
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
Adventures With Purpose was a good channel to watch concerning these sorts of cold case recovery missions, but unfortunately the co-founder of the company isn’t a very nice person in reality & committed actual crimesof his own. However I’m content from former employee Josh Cantu, who is very passionate about resuming & documenting the good work once AWP stops trying to seek “revenge” via lawsuit (very long story if you’re unfamiliar lol, but excited to see more work from former employees like Josh & Doug once all the unnecessary legal hoopla ceases!)
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle submerged in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
Oh so very, very many…I can note perhaps 10 (at the very least!) that I’ve heard in the last decade alone due to dedicated, often amateur search teams using sonar equipment etc. I was going to mention by name the discovery of Navy vet Donnie Erwin, who went missing in 2013 & was found by James Hinkle in December 2023, and in Googling to check I relay the details right, I found a case from just this month-thankfully not left a mystery for over a decade, but Jason Neumann is also a vet who went missing on November 18, with him being found inside his vehicle in Lake Michigan on the 23rd. Another that will always stick out to me is William Moldt, last seen in 1997, who was recovered from a pond in Florida in 2019 after a resident saw his car submerged via Google Maps so flew his drone over to confirm.
How nice of these people to use modern equipment to provide closure in old cases.
Did no one see tire tracks leading to the pond?
Come on how deep is this pond. 1980 wasn't the stone ages. How much jewelry was uncovered? Tire tracks into the pond or did a large Lincoln not leave tire tracks in the 80's?
That pond is tiny. I can't believe they miss it
But they could have robbed, murdered, put in the car and rolled into the pond.
@@carolr7823 exactly!
Yes, but it's not likely. Most robberies , the criminals want to do the least and not catch a bigger case
Let me guess, they were Black men who did it.
Exactly. Just because it’s a pond doesn’t mean it was an accident.
@@diegoflores9237 Alot of people are murdered for money so saying it’s unlikely is inaccurate
I don't know...I'm not normally a jump to conclusions, arm chair detective, suspicious for no reason type, but something about this just doesn't sound right. I guess if we knew what the area surrounding the hotel and pond looked like in 1980 it might be easier to buy that the old guy simply just accidentally drove them into it, but still...where's the jewelry? Have they been able to recover that, as well? If not, I might not want to consider this an entirely open and shut case (only 44 years after the fact).
That said, I'm glad their family at least knows what became of them and can bury them properly now.
They need to check the position of the shift linkage on the Lincoln.
Spectacular failure to have missed them back then! How'd they "check" the pond?!!!! 😕😕
That pond is so small!
Where is all of the jewelery ?
the jewelry, not all of.
so the jewelry should be IN the car then. and how do you drive into a pond at the back of a hotel? what was the layout back in 1980??
Investigate who was working at the hotel and knew what the couple had valuables.
How big was the pomd back then? Did they accelerate so much that they flew off the parking lot and into the pond without leaving tire tracks? (Possible).
I think this mystery has ravelled. An unravelled situation is a messy, untidy, knotty one. This is now that much closer to the opposite of that.
‘Untangled’ might have been a more appropriate term
Wow smh it was in a pond all this time smh may they RIP
How do you miss a car that big in a pond that small.
Exactly - what in the world. Someone knows something else.
I think the divers found them, took the jewellery and left them there.
While I am happy for the family that their loved ones were found, honestly, I would highly suggest a trusted family member accompany elderly loved ones who are traveling and in general, because they are preyed upon in this society. I speak from personal experience.😶
No fresh track marks when it happened? Really?
That’s a good point
How did the guy know they had a lot of money? I don’t believe they “drove “ into the pond.
Because they drove an expensive car.
Wow dig deeper because this is weird 🤔
Dig deeper for what? Lololol
@joeleone2228 not literally lol, they need to investigate if they may have passed before plunging into the lake
I live here and we have "borrow" pits everywhere in Brunswick. They "borrow" dirt from places and us it to build rollways, exits, or wherever they need to build up. Ive ridden past this pond thousands of times and there is an ongoing search of 12 of these "ponds" as we speak. Trust me when i say its very erie and sad bc this is my home. I hope this investigation is thorough and the family has closure.
This is really cool that you found them. Good job!👏
I knew this was going to be the answer. The conspiracy theories were absolutely ridiculous.
Hmm missed a great big Lincoln in a small pond when searched in 1980? That said hope family gets all the answers they need so they can get closure.
Alot has happened 44 years I'm sure many of their family members died without knowing what happened to them
How you miss a huge car in a pond????
Checking local ponds should always be high on the list of to do's.
Rest In Peace 🕊️🕊️
That pond was very tiny, and they've been there all this time.
Accidentally drove into the pond??? I don’t think so.
My 80 year old neighbor drove over his large garbage container he just rolled onto the street. Situational awareness declines with age.
Rest in peace 🙏😞 thank Everyone for taking them home 🫶🏻
How deep is that pond? Suspicious.
Look at who got their money
You were definitely dropped on your head as a child. Lots of times.
Not necessarily. If they were murdered, the people of interest are often those with the most to gain. What better place than away from home? The wealthy snowbirds I knew used the same route, stayed at the same hotels for years. Even though it was before cell phones, their families knew where they were going to be staying while traveling.
One couple from NYC had their winter home in Southern Florida, a condo in coastal NC that was their spring/summer home and maintained their NYC apartment to be with family and friends for the holidays. They routinely drove between locations and were in their late 70’s. They were an interesting couple!
And you have obviously never ever been wealthy!! When you are wealthy...everyone is the enemy...everyone wants your money. Surprisingly you have a steal your face logo...but you are not a very grateful person to insult others on their thoughts. For shame.
You can check in anytime but you can never leave...
That pond is a little bigger as a bathtub. How does a dive team miss ANYTHING in it!???
Ted Kennedy was at the wheel.
😂😅😊
Bwah haha
They didn’t find a Lincoln Continental in that little pool for 44 years?!
This is what happens when people make assumptions. The police and media assumed that their wealth had something to do with their disappearance when they probably just accidentally drove their car into the pond after a big night out. A simple, logical reason, but those conspiracy theorists couldn't leave it alone then, and it would appear they can't leave it alone now.
Do you think that’s what happened? At first I thought maybe they wrecked and lost control falling into the pond but it was only in the parking lot behind the hotel that makes no sense. I think someone pushed that car in the lake
@@hdskl2150there’s been tons of instances of elderly people hitting the gas pedal instead of the brake and running into buildings. It’s very plausible the same could happen to a pond next to a parking lot. And once the water starts flowing in, if there’s nobody around to help then yeah, they’re done for.
A tiny pond...bad 1980 search
Bravo
It's terrible how long they took to look at the pool. At this point, many cold cases have been solved by checking the nearby body of water. This should happen regularly to solve cold cases. I'm sure they can find a way to fund the endeavors.
This happens so often, it is unbelievable.
What the hell even happened?
Someone watched 'PSYCHO', and followed suit...
Dear Old Folks,
Stop driving.
Why these old wealthy people even want to drive from Florida
The old news article stated the couple had over $150,000 worth of jewelry with them…..any reports of located jewelry???
Local pawn shop reports that a large frog has been hocking various pieces of jewelry with them for 35 years now. The jig is up, Froggy!
@o4ktr33123 😂😅😅😊
Is this the couple the Fastball song was about?
Dude must have enjoyed a
Ted Kennedy, long-island-ice-tea, brunch
What they never checked the pond !! terrible police work in the 80's just useless
Mafia hit.
Wow 😳. GOD is good. They can have closure. RIP 💐🫶🏻🫶🏻💐
Surely the arm of the LORD isnt too short to save, nor His ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have built barriers between you and your GOD, and your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He does not hear.
1 Peter 1:9
The reward for trusting him will be the salvation of your souls.
Repent and believe in the LORD Jesus Christ.
Wait a minute, God has a face?
@@lemondropkid6175 GOD is Spirit. But Christ Jesus does. He's the image of the invisible GOD.
"Colossians 1:15" Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
Revelation 19:12: "His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems".
Revelation 2:18: "The words of the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and whose feet are like burnished bronze
Christ Jesus is God Almighty
Sad police never checked the pond...in all this time.
They said they checked it but didn’t see anything 🤦♀️
Kristine Johnson is so 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If citizens half to have proper barricades and safety measures around their own personal pools on their property, when are other bodies of water going to get the same attention? These ponds and lakes need to have protective barriers or small poles spaces every few feet around them to prevent these things
No way it took that long. I don't buy it.
Police competence is a myth.