Quick Explenation: So the way the lovers work is, IF you love a villager, you get stat increases, can "care" for them twice a game to give them *Powerful* Defense (can only die by Tier3, "unstoppable" attacks, which are very rare) that night + clear effects like insanity (from dreamweaver), poison, douses etc. and get lifelinked (if 1 dies, both die). HOWEVER, if a neutral or coven accepts the proposal, you enter a *Toxic Relationship* . How that works is, you DON'T get a statboost, the admirerer gets silenced for 1 night and you *DO NOT* get lifelinked. The Admirerer is supposed to tell about the relationship after one day and call out the bad guy.
So Kaif accepted a Femboy's love, who then mysteriously died (tragic), Kaif learns how to Cleric from legendary Cleric: William Phips, and then Kaif once again wins from Stan's death.
After losing his love, Kaif the arsonist took up a holy vow to never let his loved ones die again, getting taught at the chapel of the zipper by the one and only William Phips, Kaif then used his god-given powers to save the town.
Town of Salem is very fun if you know what you’re doing. I remember watching you play TOS1 in the vods and having no clue how it works, same with the beginning of this stream. You have really learned, good job little one. I’d love to see more.
Admirer misinterpretation: admirer is a town role that proposes to a player of their choice if the player accepts the proposal and is a townie, then the two are life-linked (if one dies, the other dies of a broken heart) and knows each others roles if an evil accepts the proposal, then the admirer will have a toxic relationship, silencing the admirer for a day if anyone declines the proposal, the admirer gets a second chance to propose to a player, and nothing else happens
BTW on 16:14, literally every single role in the game except townies are immune to the dreamweaver. So it should've been obvious from the start that Glen was neutral evil.
@Soothsayer_98 thank you,I've been looking for this comment because literally no one else mentioned it, and also Rylie was definitely retributionist because the cannot crusader kill himself
To be fair, as the admirer, you can help your toxic lover win, or betray them since you know, its like the Lawyer in Among us or other deception games. Its up to the person playing really how they want to play. But if you except your always running that dice roll of if they will work with you or not.
Heya Kaif! I know this was sponsored and it takes a bit to get everyone together sometimes for such a big player count, but I loved this stream and really hope you play ToS2 again. PS: I love SR's dread hunger games too! Thank you and the gang for all the laughs!
This game's Admirer and Amnesiac are really bad Town roles, as in they should not be Town, but the devs are really against roles that can choose who wins without consequence (kingmakers), so it's a really weird spot of the game. They both also used to be public about their ability making it easy to confirm them but that's been removed, so it's even weirder than before.
Admirer is very strong for town, they can pick confirmed town members to act as a GA, or reveal info about evils (if they survive the toxic relationship status). Amne however, is shit in ToS2, not because it's town only, but because the role you got as the Amne is random depending on which town died n1-n2. You have no control over what role you might be, as the game suddenly picks you to be the town's 5th Sheriff.
It's crazy I remember searching kaif on RUclips and another channel with 10k subs came first before him. Now look at him now. Straight teeth and more than 10k subs. Care for you kaify boy
"With the admirer if they say no, they are probably bad." Not really no. Admirer gets lifelinked to their love if its not a toxic relationship. This makes it a vulnerability to accept Admirer since if one of you dies, both of you go. Town roles can reject Admirer, especially important roles like Jailord for example, in order to not create vulnerabilitiyes to themself. Weaker roles like Amnesiac or Sherrif are kind of expected to accept the proposal since no one cares if they die but if they confirm an Admirer its at least something. Admirer is a kind of fucky role without much a solid meta as far as I can discern though. Some people just hate the lifelink, others like getting a confirmed townie ally and a guardian angel. It frequently depends on the individual more than the common sense of the game.
glen was still the right decision in the last clip because an early sherrif check is more likely to find someone who is legit not sus, so glen is still more likely bad
@Kaif Do you think it is a step up or step down of the game now that it's back to old "sitting around the town centre" instead of letting you go around like the previous game?
Kaif play 4 horsemen game mode, the only game mode in the game with all four horsemen roles, you can play as famine, death, war or Pestilence all very powerful roles
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The "Admirer" sucks as a role. Simple as. Taking what's been a known concept in these games and entirely ruining it makes you wonder why they even bothered including it.
As a ToS player, Rylie had the perfect alibi and was actually proven by the kill that night. He claimed retributionist, and the crusader died to crusdaer. Now, crusader cant kill himself, meaning Rylie used the dead crusader on cole, and ended up killing the other crusdaer. Glen is claiming cleric, which wouldnt kill someone, and cole is prosecutor. Rylie didnt even need a defense, the death that night proved he was retri like he claimed earlier.
Also. The spy (kaif) seeing the dream weaver immune message is 100%evil as no town (to my memory) is immune to that only neutrals are immune. You get the drive you insane message then it ends if they die at the same time (I forget if the you ate cured message shows but I know the immune one dosent)
Quick Explenation:
So the way the lovers work is, IF you love a villager, you get stat increases, can "care" for them twice a game to give them *Powerful* Defense (can only die by Tier3, "unstoppable" attacks, which are very rare) that night + clear effects like insanity (from dreamweaver), poison, douses etc. and get lifelinked (if 1 dies, both die). HOWEVER, if a neutral or coven accepts the proposal, you enter a *Toxic Relationship* . How that works is, you DON'T get a statboost, the admirerer gets silenced for 1 night and you *DO NOT* get lifelinked. The Admirerer is supposed to tell about the relationship after one day and call out the bad guy.
Mind adding unique roles too?
That is actually an awesome twist on the role
@@KnightWolf9508 witch ones
@@TheSpiralSpiderWeb yes
The admirer can also ask someone for a relationship twice and they also cant vote if they pick the wrong person
So Kaif accepted a Femboy's love, who then mysteriously died (tragic), Kaif learns how to Cleric from legendary Cleric: William Phips, and then Kaif once again wins from Stan's death.
After losing his love, Kaif the arsonist took up a holy vow to never let his loved ones die again, getting taught at the chapel of the zipper by the one and only William Phips, Kaif then used his god-given powers to save the town.
Knowing how admirer works in this and knowing that this is a very toxic relationship that won’t work out is very funny.
"Kaif, you're a Cleric as well?"
*Sighs in SR Salt*
"YES BECAUSE IT'S ALL RANDOM!!!!"
This broke me so much XD
I can't count how many times someone would claim a role and get counter claimed by somebody else forgetting that it's full random haha
@@Kaiff it's too fucking funny, especially when we hear the "I've had enough of your bullshit" inhale ya made XD
Town of Salem is very fun if you know what you’re doing. I remember watching you play TOS1 in the vods and having no clue how it works, same with the beginning of this stream. You have really learned, good job little one. I’d love to see more.
Yeah! God, I remember playing it way back in the day before pets. I need to play again....
I remember watching rpgminx and whatnot like ages ago
Hi tos1 vet here
The term SUS wasn't first wasn't first used in among us
It was first used on mass in tos1
On twitch TOS has a different meaning 😀
@@Sodapop-rd5ku yeah, we know. The game is so much older and popular than among us at its peak.
12:27 I fucking love that delivery just bubbling with frustration lmao
Admirer misinterpretation:
admirer is a town role that proposes to a player of their choice
if the player accepts the proposal and is a townie, then the two are life-linked (if one dies, the other dies of a broken heart) and knows each others roles
if an evil accepts the proposal, then the admirer will have a toxic relationship, silencing the admirer for a day
if anyone declines the proposal, the admirer gets a second chance to propose to a player, and nothing else happens
BTW on 16:14, literally every single role in the game except townies are immune to the dreamweaver. So it should've been obvious from the start that Glen was neutral evil.
@Soothsayer_98 thank you,I've been looking for this comment because literally no one else mentioned it, and also Rylie was definitely retributionist because the cannot crusader kill himself
If only they were not playing it for the first time and learning a year ago.
Feels good to catch fresh content from Kaif,
especially after being used to binge-watch every single one of his videos.
To be fair, as the admirer, you can help your toxic lover win, or betray them since you know, its like the Lawyer in Among us or other deception games. Its up to the person playing really how they want to play. But if you except your always running that dice roll of if they will work with you or not.
I mean if you do help your toxic lover win you are throwing the game.
that's gamethrowing and is a bannable thing to do if reported.
One of the things I least expected kaif and gang to play was town of salem 2.
Especially before public early access.
Look, when you go to catholic school and get given a ruler... it changes you... you start hearing the ruler... and you must obey the ruler
Oh my gosh, a game you guys should look into is Blood on the Clocktower! It's a great social deduction game and you can troll so hard in it!
Never thought i'd see you guys play Town of salem but here we are. This is gonna take a while to learn cuz damn theres a lot to learn
I flopped dead on the ground when kaif wrote "you win with me"
Ben
“I like fire”
Everyone
*Ignores*
Can't WAIT for this game to be open to the frickin public. I LOVE Salem.
Yes, I waited for you guys to finally play the game, Cool video 👍
Heya Kaif! I know this was sponsored and it takes a bit to get everyone together sometimes for such a big player count, but I loved this stream and really hope you play ToS2 again.
PS: I love SR's dread hunger games too! Thank you and the gang for all the laughs!
It wasn't sponsored, we just received keys for the game for free, and you have to disclose it :P
@@Kaiff Oh that's weird. RUclips had the little "Sponsored" thing at the top when I first loaded up the vod. Wonder why then haha
7:24 Holy fuck that's a disco elysium reference with that achievement
I can tell that this is a really good video, typical Kaif.
being honest now but I think this is one of the better "Sequel games" I've seen
This game's Admirer and Amnesiac are really bad Town roles, as in they should not be Town, but the devs are really against roles that can choose who wins without consequence (kingmakers), so it's a really weird spot of the game. They both also used to be public about their ability making it easy to confirm them but that's been removed, so it's even weirder than before.
Admirer is very strong for town, they can pick confirmed town members to act as a GA, or reveal info about evils (if they survive the toxic relationship status).
Amne however, is shit in ToS2, not because it's town only, but because the role you got as the Amne is random depending on which town died n1-n2. You have no control over what role you might be, as the game suddenly picks you to be the town's 5th Sheriff.
Man, the social deduction games that get together a ton of people are great games.
This is my childhood game, im so glad they get to make tos2
LMAO the "IT'S RANDOM" meltdown at 12:26 is giving major Randy Feltface vibes XD
The stretch in RANDOM is amazing
Thanks for the good new content, Kaif. Enjoyed watching it😊😊
12:24 I love how stressed Kaif sounds when he said “It’s all random”
Man, been looking forward to this since it came out
I don't remember if Kaif ever noticed, but he DID win the duel, he just also got burnt to a crisp the same night
"Imagine dying to your fucking blanket, you loser"
I heard my Native American ancestors gasp from the afterlife lmaooo
New Kaif video, life's good
I DIED WATCHING THE VOD WHEN I REALIZED HOW THE LOVERS ROLE WAS ACTUALLY MEANT TO WORK 😂😂😂
Like, that's no fun, devs! Let me betray my teammates!
The will element for this game is hilarious.
Imagine every towny was a prosecutor. With this being SR, No one is going to survive!
This game witnessed 3 baguette commands... what a throw back 🥺❤
It's crazy I remember searching kaif on RUclips and another channel with 10k subs came first before him. Now look at him now. Straight teeth and more than 10k subs. Care for you kaify boy
found this game cause of kaif. absolutely love it
oh my goodness town of salem returns and it's better than ever
If I wasn't in public I'll be rolling on the floor 😂
How dare kaif steal the love of my cole.
Woo! New vid makes my day so much better :)
A whopping 5 views, this is the earliest ive ever seen a kaif vid
Same, actually kinda wierd going into the comments and not seing peoples' reactions to funny/dumb moments
i am one with the zipper and the zipper is one with me
I hope you guys and gals play more of this and do more funny final wills
I'll still always love you Kaif
This game looks fun wish I had friends to play it with
"With the admirer if they say no, they are probably bad." Not really no. Admirer gets lifelinked to their love if its not a toxic relationship. This makes it a vulnerability to accept Admirer since if one of you dies, both of you go. Town roles can reject Admirer, especially important roles like Jailord for example, in order to not create vulnerabilitiyes to themself. Weaker roles like Amnesiac or Sherrif are kind of expected to accept the proposal since no one cares if they die but if they confirm an Admirer its at least something.
Admirer is a kind of fucky role without much a solid meta as far as I can discern though. Some people just hate the lifelink, others like getting a confirmed townie ally and a guardian angel. It frequently depends on the individual more than the common sense of the game.
Love the thumbnail art kaif.
glen was still the right decision in the last clip because an early sherrif check is more likely to find someone who is legit not sus, so glen is still more likely bad
One thing they changed is so that neutrals come up as sus, including arsonist and jester.
13:59 I KNEW IT I tarnation KNEW IT
@Kaif Do you think it is a step up or step down of the game now that it's back to old "sitting around the town centre" instead of letting you go around like the previous game?
Traitors in salem is a completely different game tbh
But i enjoy town of salem 2
Its good 😁
What a combination, TOS2 and SR
Ah yes more salt and spicy chaos for my burger and I nearly choked😂
Prosecution is why Rob isn't here. He'd be prosecuted more than stan and rage so hard, someone else's mic would pick it up
helloooo, love ur videos kaifff
Feel like this group is just a bully Stan thing and it usually ends up being the right call
where can i get the full stream of this video...
PLEASE PLAY SECRET LAB AGAIN DUDE I LOVE YOUR SECRET LAB VIDEOS PLEASE
I've played this too. Pretty funny my first game. My 2nd game... I am very proud of ö3ö
The tavern keep skin is cute
Lovers are such a fun roll.
Kaif play 4 horsemen game mode, the only game mode in the game with all four horsemen roles, you can play as famine, death, war or Pestilence all very powerful roles
Was wondering when you'd play the sequel, looks like alot of improvements from the first one
Wait, Wait, Wait. Town of Salem 2? The fuck? What has no one told me about a 2?!
Helo kaif! Sut wyu ti? Dda? Rwy'n caru eich fideos. Thats all i have😂. Im young and i have been watching your videos for about 2 years and i just started to learn Welsh Because of you. Im sorry if i misspelt any of the welsh its Because I started yesterday i just learnt a few words and just wanted to say thank you for the amazing content i watch you basically everyday! Thats all I have Bye! P.S keep up the amazing content(Week 5)
The "Admirer" sucks as a role.
Simple as.
Taking what's been a known concept in these games and entirely ruining it makes you wonder why they even bothered including it.
also for those woundering
this is town, not traitors
thats why its diffrent
Kaif I just found out that the best back rooms game is a doom map
As a ToS player, Rylie had the perfect alibi and was actually proven by the kill that night. He claimed retributionist, and the crusader died to crusdaer. Now, crusader cant kill himself, meaning Rylie used the dead crusader on cole, and ended up killing the other crusdaer. Glen is claiming cleric, which wouldnt kill someone, and cole is prosecutor. Rylie didnt even need a defense, the death that night proved he was retri like he claimed earlier.
Also. The spy (kaif) seeing the dream weaver immune message is 100%evil as no town (to my memory) is immune to that only neutrals are immune. You get the drive you insane message then it ends if they die at the same time (I forget if the you ate cured message shows but I know the immune one dosent)
*she
None of this matters as you need to communicate why youre proven innocent, people are stupid
@@Alloriel my bad
I don't know how to feel about 6:27
"add more of an attack", I said "ad hominem attack" looolll
Take it up with tdesius haha
@@Kaiff I sure will!
Perfect. That's all I have to say.
Its really weird for me to see myself in the video
Wait how did all you guys get this early, I thought they only sent out a couple early access yet you got the whole squad in?
Usually every Friday, Kaif uploads at 12:00PM, am I correct?
good video kaif
You feeling alright Kaif? You sounded a little sick.
I was ill recently and still nasally despite being better
@@Kaiff Glad you're getting better!
The second game feels very, minimalist. Idk, and it kind of a official game or some kind of mod thing?
Its official. I mean yeah the game has more simple roles but has much more roles and importantly, game modes
they made a ToS 2????
Brings me back to years ago playing the original... wtf
stans just dying from peak meta gameplay (as always lmao)
So just lovers are Kaif and Stan?
This this is great.👍
Didn't the group play this but open world and you just walked around this seems so familiar.
That's "Traitors in Salem".
@@CybeastID thanks man .
When in doubt, vote Glen out.
When in doubt
Vote Stan out!
What is ‘’coven’’
Love this🥰
Kaifs my favorite toe sniffin streamer.
Pog of salem 2
is kaif sick or something? or am i just hallucinating about his voice sounding different
I was indeed sick
@@Kaiff oh boi i can say its horrible as im the same, plus my noses burning
Esquel of a great game? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Play All Any
Dew it
This was funny xd
Let's go! First 40 min
Nice
Rylie got saved at the third game due to a misconception lol. Arso looks inno to sheriff.
Hey kaif
WOOOOOOOOO