The best advice I've heard! And then soon after find your nearest FSSP or ICKSP parish to be introduced into the Holy Catholic Church's sacred liturgy which will be in Her mother tongue (Latin). - In Christo!
Another advantage of the Vulgate is that anyone raised in any Christian community already knows the translation into their own native language. This makes passages like the Pater Noster and the Magnificat easier to understand in Latin.
Interestingly, for Charlotte Mason education, we actually start doing 3 Shakespeare plays per year in the 4th grade, while Latin is started in 5th. But perhaps all of the literature we do is still preparing them, lots of rich language books are read to them prior, including pilgrims progress in original language in 2nd-3rd grade. I love the recommendation for Vulgate, it sounds so obvious but never occurred to me! My own homeschool Latin teacher in 8th grade (the only class I took outside the home, actually) was a seminary Latin teacher, and he would even read his Latin bible in church as he listened to the sermon.
I agree. Students emerging from elementary Latin grammar aren't ready for Cicero, or even Caesar. The Vulgate is an excellent choice to build on what they've learned. More importantly, it doesn't break their hearts when after a year of hard work -- two years if they're in a high school or home-schooled program -- they're confronted with a seemingly infinite swamp of grammatical problems and new vocabulary.
This is a great suggestion - and doubly beneficial, given that I’m a Christian interested in the classic tradition. (Though note that your analogy is a little off, as Shakespeare was writing in Early Modern English and Wheelock’s Latin trains you in the same Classical Latin as Virgil - it would be more akin to learning the basics of modern English grammar, and then expecting you to read Hemingway or Tolkien or Dickens.)
Dwane. What is the name of the site where the Latin Vulgate can be read and is spoken? Biblium.is is what i tried without success. I haven't studied Latin just yet, but I want to get my ducks in a row. :)
I noticed in your videos that you pronounce the 'c' like an italian 'ch' in instead of like 'k'. I'm curious why do you pronounce it that way. Great videos I'm learning a lot.
plenty2say He uses the ecclesiastical version of Latin instead of original Latin. Originated from Eccles, the Latin word for church (aka. Church Latin).
Larry Clark how are you getting on? I started wheelock’s about 18 months ago. Just started complementing it with Ørberg’s ‘Familia Romana’ - balancing Wheelock’s grammatical approach with the living language approach.
Yes, because it's a seperate language and came before bible verses had numbers to organize verses things may be slightly different. The verse is still in the vulgate though.
Great advice! I'd probably instead say that reading the bible has been the most influential book in 'western civilisation' rather than 'the world'. The Qur'an has been as influential as the bible; it really just depends on which civilisation you find yourself in. Without knowing the bible's stories and ideas it's impossible to understand western literature, art, society, politics... the entire civilisation really. Ignoring it is like looking at Muslim countries without knowing the Qur'an, or east Asian countries without knowing the ideas of Confucius.
As an old Latin student -who can still appreciate the mystical beauty of the old Latin Mass- I know that this is excellent advice : study or just browse on that wonderful smart phone the Latin Vulgate - in many ways more HERE NOW than old Cicero fulminating against the wicked rebel Catiline. The New Testament comes to pristine life again, in contrast to soporific , unimaginative, and spiritually lazy Sunday reading of Gospel excerpts by stale soul priests. Reading the Holy Gospel in ancient Latin, one makes an almost metaphysical contact with the not so dead PAST of the beginning of Christianity and the sublime presence of " The Christ ". View precious-and often gorgeous- ancient and medieval manuscripts of the New Testament -now digitized on line. One longs for a privileged scholar's tranquil " retreat " in the labyrinthine "Vatican Secret Archives ". The Eternal Word holds out the spark of hope for eternal LIFE -and some transcendent meaning for our own passing moment in time. God is Nowhere ? Or God is now here ? Faith is indeed a gift- in the gathering darkness. DOMINUS VOBISCUM !
History Note: the New Testament was originally written in Greek, the most common language of the Roman Empire. Alexander the Great had previously spread Greek language and culture through the regions that the Roman Empire then re-conquered. It was considered the language of the elite, and those who traveled about the Empire. The Byzantine Empire, for example, spoke Greek until it's fall, hundreds of years after the fall of Rome. Every area of the Roman Empire had a native tongue, it's native language, which the "Vulgaris" spoke [the common people]. In parts of Rome their native tongue was Vulgar Latin (not to be confused with Classical Latin, used in Government and Law). The Empire did use classical Latin for Government and Law. After the Roman Empire was Christianized, then the Empire wanted an "official" version to include with their Latin Law. So then the common folk would be ruled by Latin Law AND the Vulgate.
Another way of getting good reading practice is to read scientific texts, like DE ANIMALIBUS HISTORIAE (translated from Greek of Aristotle)...it doesn't matter if he thought eels were generated from sheer mud and some stuff like that...one gets his intellectual brilliance through the Latin... better yet...one starts to think in Latin brilliantly.
To get in touch with many classics written in latin, just go to the site WWW.LATINLIBRARY.COM. In this site one can find many famous Roman authors. Reading fables in latin is also a good source for vulgate latin. The fables written in latin reflect the everyday language spoken by the Romans. I got interested in reading latin because I studied four semester of this language at College. I'm still learning latin. Even though I am Brazilian, and my official language is Portuguese, which has its root in latin, I still find latin, a very difficult language to deal with. As you said, it is not easy, but it opens the way for learning language such as: Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, French, Catalan, and even English can be improved by knowing latin, since there are many words in English borrowed from this language. Your class in indeed, a good motivation for us to continue learning that wonderful ancient language, which is not so dead as some people say. Thanks a lot.
You were right initially. Most of the authors you mentioned were from the 1st century BC (Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, the first two of whom were writing in the 50s BC, with Vergil starting up in the late 40s BC), some lived into the very early part of the 1st century AD (Livy, Ovid), and only Tacitus actually lived into the 2nd century AD.
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The best advice I've heard! And then soon after find your nearest FSSP or ICKSP parish to be introduced into the Holy Catholic Church's sacred liturgy which will be in Her mother tongue (Latin).
- In Christo!
Love it!
Best Teacher I have ever met. Now I will learn Latin.Thank You
Another advantage of the Vulgate is that anyone raised in any Christian community already knows the translation into their own native language. This makes passages like the Pater Noster and the Magnificat easier to understand in Latin.
The Vulgate is so Awesome to read. It is really poetic. Especially the Gospels!
@Karsyn Yusuf definitely, have been using kaldrostream for since november myself =)
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Agree
Good idea. I started learning Vergil and I got lost. I might try the Vulgate.
How long would it take to work up to reading the Vulgate Bible with studying latin for about an hour per day? - pretty disciplined learning.
Interestingly, for Charlotte Mason education, we actually start doing 3 Shakespeare plays per year in the 4th grade, while Latin is started in 5th. But perhaps all of the literature we do is still preparing them, lots of rich language books are read to them prior, including pilgrims progress in original language in 2nd-3rd grade.
I love the recommendation for Vulgate, it sounds so obvious but never occurred to me! My own homeschool Latin teacher in 8th grade (the only class I took outside the home, actually) was a seminary Latin teacher, and he would even read his Latin bible in church as he listened to the sermon.
Bibles that are translated from the Latin into English, are they different from those translated from the Greek?
I agree. Students emerging from elementary Latin grammar aren't ready for Cicero, or even Caesar. The Vulgate is an excellent choice to build on what they've learned. More importantly, it doesn't break their hearts when after a year of hard work -- two years if they're in a high school or home-schooled program -- they're confronted with a seemingly infinite swamp of grammatical problems and new vocabulary.
I live in Sri Lanka. What genuine websites other than eBay and Amazon are there from which I can order the Latin Vulgate ,online?
where to learn the Latin Vulgate i really want to learn online it but didnt find where and i speak 0 latin
This is a great suggestion - and doubly beneficial, given that I’m a Christian interested in the classic tradition. (Though note that your analogy is a little off, as Shakespeare was writing in Early Modern English and Wheelock’s Latin trains you in the same Classical Latin as Virgil - it would be more akin to learning the basics of modern English grammar, and then expecting you to read Hemingway or Tolkien or Dickens.)
What age is eight grade?
I am writing the Vulgate Old testament for my own focus, while I am Muslim
Good on you!
Do you think of taking the position Nuvo Vulgate's ?
I had 4 years of Latin nd Vergil and Cicero where tough to read
Nova Vulgata or the old Clementine?
My latin rite priest recommended it.
Dwane. What is the name of the site where the Latin Vulgate can be read and is spoken?
Biblium.is is what i tried without success. I haven't studied Latin just yet, but I want to get my ducks in a row. :)
Here you go: www.bible.is/LTNNVV/Matt/1
So sorry for the long delay.
I noticed in your videos that you pronounce the 'c' like an italian 'ch' in instead of like 'k'. I'm curious why do you pronounce it that way. Great videos I'm learning a lot.
plenty2say He uses the ecclesiastical version of Latin instead of original Latin. Originated from Eccles, the Latin word for church (aka. Church Latin).
Ordered Wheelocks Latin per your recommendation. Thanks.
Larry Clark how are you getting on? I started wheelock’s about 18 months ago. Just started complementing it with Ørberg’s ‘Familia Romana’ - balancing Wheelock’s grammatical approach with the living language approach.
Finding the intermediate is my current issue, thanks for the vulgate recommendation!
What is the name of the beginner's book?
Marques Cameron lingua Latina
Does the Latin Vulgate have Mark 7:19 in it?
Yes, because it's a seperate language and came before bible verses had numbers to organize verses things may be slightly different. The verse is still in the vulgate though.
this guy still going in 2020 ??
It’s a mistake reading Shakespeare period! Go to a theatre with an apron stage - magical
Great advice!
I'd probably instead say that reading the bible has been the most influential book in 'western civilisation' rather than 'the world'. The Qur'an has been as influential as the bible; it really just depends on which civilisation you find yourself in. Without knowing the bible's stories and ideas it's impossible to understand western literature, art, society, politics... the entire civilisation really. Ignoring it is like looking at Muslim countries without knowing the Qur'an, or east Asian countries without knowing the ideas of Confucius.
As an old Latin student -who can still appreciate the mystical beauty of the old Latin Mass- I know that this is excellent advice : study or just browse on that wonderful smart phone the Latin Vulgate - in many ways more HERE NOW than old Cicero fulminating against the wicked rebel Catiline. The New Testament comes to pristine life again, in contrast to soporific , unimaginative, and spiritually lazy Sunday reading of Gospel excerpts by stale soul priests. Reading the Holy Gospel in ancient Latin, one makes an almost metaphysical contact with the not so dead PAST of the beginning of Christianity and the sublime presence of " The Christ ". View precious-and often gorgeous- ancient and medieval manuscripts of the New Testament -now digitized on line. One longs for a privileged scholar's tranquil " retreat " in the labyrinthine "Vatican Secret Archives ".
The Eternal Word holds out the spark of hope for eternal LIFE -and some transcendent meaning for our own passing moment in time. God is Nowhere ? Or God is now here ? Faith is indeed a gift- in the gathering darkness. DOMINUS VOBISCUM !
Et cum spiritu tuo
History Note: the New Testament was originally written in Greek, the most common language of the Roman Empire. Alexander the Great had previously spread Greek language and culture through the regions that the Roman Empire then re-conquered. It was considered the language of the elite, and those who traveled about the Empire. The Byzantine Empire, for example, spoke Greek until it's fall, hundreds of years after the fall of Rome. Every area of the Roman Empire had a native tongue, it's native language, which the "Vulgaris" spoke [the common people]. In parts of Rome their native tongue was Vulgar Latin (not to be confused with Classical Latin, used in Government and Law). The Empire did use classical Latin for Government and Law. After the Roman Empire was Christianized, then the Empire wanted an "official" version to include with their Latin Law. So then the common folk would be ruled by Latin Law AND the Vulgate.
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Another way of getting good reading practice is to read scientific texts, like DE ANIMALIBUS HISTORIAE (translated from Greek of Aristotle)...it doesn't matter if he thought eels were generated from sheer mud and some stuff like that...one gets his intellectual brilliance through the Latin... better yet...one starts to think in Latin brilliantly.
To get in touch with many classics written in latin, just go to the site WWW.LATINLIBRARY.COM. In this site one can find many famous Roman authors. Reading fables in latin is also a good source for vulgate latin. The fables written in latin reflect the everyday language spoken by the Romans. I got interested in reading latin because I studied four semester of this language at College. I'm still learning latin. Even though I am Brazilian, and my official language is Portuguese, which has its root in latin, I still find latin, a very difficult language to deal with. As you said, it is not easy, but it opens the way for learning language such as: Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, French, Catalan, and even English can be improved by knowing latin, since there are many words in English borrowed from this language. Your class in indeed, a good motivation for us to continue learning that wonderful ancient language, which is not so dead as some people say. Thanks a lot.
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Logos!
You were right initially. Most of the authors you mentioned were from the 1st century BC (Caesar, Cicero, Vergil, the first two of whom were writing in the 50s BC, with Vergil starting up in the late 40s BC), some lived into the very early part of the 1st century AD (Livy, Ovid), and only Tacitus actually lived into the 2nd century AD.
I love you buy please wear shirts that fit you...not oversized...because ppl are more likely to take you more seriously n be less judgey
Also i am not judgey..i love you. You need to learn style skills bro!🤣💓😘
I don't get the blonde joke...
One learns to itch where one can scratch
الترجمة اللاتينية الشائعة للتوراة والانجيل
BIBLIUM.IS??