Tim, all due respects, there should be a Forward Player of the Year and a Backline Player of the year! FULLSTOP! You cannot reconcile into a choice and compare aeroplane with trains??
Would like to see a game where the following list of Forwards take on those Forwards : 1. Porter 2. Marx 3. Koch 4. Otoje 5. Snyman 6. Valatini 7. Sititi 8. Earle
Can't really argue with this pack - it's class from 1 to 8. But personally, I would probably have Mauvaka there ahead of Taylor. Both are brilliant, but Mauvaka just stands out in every single game for France, and does things which no other hooker does.
Taylor is great but I don't think people realise what Mauvaka accomplishes on the field. Run the ball more than most (if not all) hookers in the world, very accurate lineouts, often reach 15+ tackles per game, break tackles, plays backrow when needed. This guy is at the same time rapid, solid and technical like a back. I have never seen a hooker so versatile and yet very good at his core tasks. Look at his stats and the WC games, you might discover a freak of a player. I'm not even talking about what he does with Toulouse...
You've basically just described Codie Taylor during the Rugby Championship. And Malcolm Marx prior to his injury during the RWC last year. Both incredibly athletic, versatile hookers who are exceptional ball carriers and very real breakdown threats. That's not to say that Mauvaka isn't great - he's brilliant - I just think you're doing Codie Taylor a massive disservice if you think he can't run the ball, do the same dirty work as a backrow forward or break tackles in addition to putting in a proper defensive shift. Not all hookers are equal in the scrum either - some aren't that great - and that is another aspect of Taylor's game that is excellent. He absolutely deserves the shout for team of the year.
Mauvaka is the best hooker in the world in my opinion. Incredible offensive player, never caught in defense or in the scrum, the perfect hooker with the vision and running of a back. Just an incredible player.
When things get tight the warrior is Malcom Marx. The best 2 to ever play for SA. Brutal tackler and ball carrier- no please if you off to war, who you gonna look for?
Player of the year seems to be lagging by about 12 months... Eben Etzebeth deserved it last year. Ardie deserved it the year before. Seems like each year, they're just making up fro last years cock up!
@peterhunter6040 I've always felt like they would be a great locking combination. I mean... they just have that same vibe as eachother... like that badboy vibe...you kinda get the feeling they would immediately get along with eachother if they met.
Ebens Game time is unmatched , but I totally see the arguement for Ox, Kolbe and PSDT. Kolbe orovides the most Oh shit moments and PSDT the most Oh shit Stats
2 Marx (No Debate) 3 Malherbe 5 RG Snyman Open side flank Ardie Savea Would be interesting to see Marx and RG given a shot at playing 8. Both mobile and skilful. If I was Rassie… Marx is the closest we’ll get to Duane right now
@@jameswyatt4443 I vividly recall seeing the Bok scrum back peddling on 3 occasions in the second test. That was after they’d done the same to the ABs in the first two scrums. The packs are very even in the set piece.
I think you are missing Ruan Nortje, the boks had a lock crisis with De jager, kleyn, snyman and mostert all being injured and Ruan stepped up and delivered during the rugby championship
Mmm. Agree on Ox. For hooker, Bongi, Sheehan, Mauvaka also put in huge efforts. Probably Mauvaka by a hair for me. Tighthead I think is the most glaring. In no universe will I pick Lomax over Malherbe. The very reason Ox has been so dominant, is because of the silent grunt from Malherbe and Koch. For locks, I think Etzebeth picks himself. Tupo Vaa'i would be my second pick. For my loosies, PSDT picks himself. The number 6 jersey (yes, NUMBER SIX 😂) could go to Van der Flier or Kolisi. Can we pick Savea at 7? He has played there but not much. Eighth man wpuld be Doris over Savea, but if Jasper Wiese had veen available for the Ireland series, I think I might have been going with him. What a year from the Upington Vleispaleis. But he didn't, so Doris it is. I like lists like these but unfortunately they do kind of disqualify the bench forwards from South Africa. Koch, Marx and Kwagga coming off the bench are just incredible. Oh dear, Ive lost track. 1. Ox 2. Mauvaka 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Vaa'i 6. Van der Flier 7. PSDT 8. Doris
There are such good, critical views in this discussion. That is why rugby talk shows & commentating & referee decisions are so annoying; they regard viewers as not knowledgable. Best for me here is the idea of TWO (FPOTY and BPOTY) 15s PsOTY; rewarding players based on home & away performamces; rewarding outstanding players in 2nd stream teams vs top teams in rare outings (SriL & Bangl in cricket shows what regular exposure can achieve). To grow the game, more opportunities between such teams, on great stadia before big crowds, are imperative, so too access to rugby at all age group levels. Rugby is for many men and women a socio-economic liberator and life saver. All aspects of rugby, playing, coaching, refereeing, marketing, administration, fitness, on-field medical care and safety should be promoted as part of rugby opportunities.
Hi Tim, please can you do a video on which of the current generation of players and coaches will one day be inducted into the Rugby Hall of Fame. Absolute guarantees: 1. Rassie Erasmus 2. Siya Kolisi 3. Eben Etzebeth 4. Antoine Dupont 5. Beauden Barrett 6. Sam Whitelock 7. Alun Wyn Jones Maybes: 8. Cheslin Kolbe 9. PSDT 10. Finn Russell 11. Cian Healy 12. Peter O'Mahony 13. Aaron Smith 14. Owen Farrell Etc.
@@MobBarley00 well I hope all you SA fans enjoyed the beach while your team was being beaten. Shame on you all for not sticking by them, but on the other hand, I don’t blame you for taking to the beach 🏝 must have been nicer than watching defeat. Well done!
Ask all props who the most difficult guy to scrum against is, and the name you'll hear most often is Frans Malherbe. Which makes me wonder ... why aren't the World Rugby award nominations made by other players, instead of an elected panel. In most cases, current players are more honest / less biases (or political) that anyone else in the game. They are the first to acknowledge when someone has played a great game, irrespective of which side that was for.
@@davidprentice8108 Matfield is, along with a bunch of other ex players ... but their finger definitely isn't on the pulse quite like the current players.
@@LittleBigMediaCo And how did you deduct that ? Excuse me I know the values of rugby but it doesn't prevent players to vote for their teammate if your system was in place. As a matter of fact, you don't know if that would be true just like I don't. Or are you aware of things because you are such an expert on rugby ?
Flyhalf is so tough. The Boks rotated too much. McKenzie seems to have been displaced by Barrett, England started with Ford, but now Smith is the guy, France were all over the place. So that leaves Finn Russell, and Jack Crowley, and neither feels to me like they deserve it.
@SMacCuUladh damn. You're right. I think then Marcus Smith can get the nod, but he had that one real stinker with the boot against NZ. SA and Ireland kind of disqualified themselves due to rotation there, like OP said.
russell takes it easily hasnt had a bad game all season, always the light in the darkness of scotland, incredibly composed in the six nations with the most accurate boot as well, absolutely magic against south africa constantly making things happen despite the pressure put on by the forwards, can't wait to see what he does against Australia this weekend. Not to forget him almost singlehandedly dragging Bath to the premiership final.
I actually agree with all your picks, but I can’t help but notice that the French players seem to suffer from just not playing as many international games. Kind of wild that you, rightly, didn’t include any of their forwards after the performance they just put in against the all blacks. Also, if he could actually play internationally I’d say Jack Willis would make the list because he was awesome in the Champions Cup.
@@mattm7426 And he wasn’t in the team of the year last year. But he started this year and made it. Your point proves nothing. Snyman doesn’t play anywhere near enough for that, it’s very simple.
Although good, I think the hype around Doris is a little over the top. Ben Earl/Sititi/Savea/Aldritt and Wiese has more impact on a game than Caelan - then again, that is just my opinion.
A interesting question was ask on saffas unscripted. When does the world player of the yr selections start. Oct - Oct or jan-nov? Would be interesting to know because of the world cup players exclusion like psdt who was the best player of the world cup. Ox won the semis for us with his scrums. Team of the yr bokke was not there even as rwc back to back winners and Jacques Nienaber not as coach of the yr. Interesting thought
@@EggchasersRugby Really? But last year the nominations were done and dusted before the WC quarter finals which given SA resultant performance meant the end results were...well downright embarrassing I thought?
Supposed to be just the calender year, but of course other factors can contribute. For instance, had I been voting for PSDT, I would have had the world cup final in mind, even though it was last year.
@randomlyfactual1943 that is why the question was raised. This yr make a lot more sense besides OX that is not a nominee, then last yr where Eben was in the world team. I mean the world cup showed the.who the boks really are
I love Tyrel Lomax and Eben Etzebeth but i wouldn't pick them on this year, purely on them being worse this year than they have been other years and Razor leaving Lomax on the pitch too long after he's knackered constantly. Tupou Vai'i at lock gets overlooked a lot, his stats are amazing this year. Honorable mention to all the Argentina loosies making up for being behind that rubbish tight 5.
Brave Tim - or amateur Tim? You do not want to be a selector. It is so much worse than predicting the weather Thanks though really appreciate your opinion.
World Rugby missed a beat. They could have defused the argument that rhey are killing the scrum, instead they double down by ignoring Ox. Making it very clear the powers that be want to turn our beloved game into a form of Rugby League. The people in charge for the last 6 years and the decade to come are the League playing nations.
My backline 15 Will Jordan 14 James Louw 13 Jesse Kriel 12 Tuipialuto 11 Cheslin Kolbe 10 Handre Pollard 9. Jameson Gibson Park Front 8 Satiti 7 Peter Steph Du Toit 6 5 Mario Itoje 4 Eben Etzebeth 3 Frans Malherbe 2 Malcolm Marx 1 Ox Nche
It's no secret that world rugby don't like the way South Africa dominate with their scrum, why would they give credit to a player who destroyed every prop he played against. They even change the rules to try and save his opponents from embarrassment.
Tim, all due respects, there should be a Forward Player of the Year and a Backline Player of the year! FULLSTOP! You cannot reconcile into a choice and compare aeroplane with trains??
Agree
Great point!
💯
With you on that.
We had all 3 at school, Forward, Back and Player
Justice for Ox!!! 😂🎉
Angus Bell, Dan Sheehan,Frans Malherbe, Tupovai', RG Snyman,Rob Valentini, Ardie Savea, Wallace Sititi ...these boys could take on this pack
@malibongwemalinga8871 without PSDT they would loose. He is the best on the world at the moment with the biggest engine
@jaycordner3890 would be a match tho
Just goes to show the quality of rugby being played by every nation right now (barring Wales)
V good alternative pack, couple of no-brainer first picks
@@HhhFff777-q4cGreat players agreed -no obvious great 8 for me … Savea is an open side flank
Love this guy!!! Best rugby content on the planet!!
Would like to see a game where the following list of Forwards take on those Forwards :
1. Porter
2. Marx
3. Koch
4. Otoje
5. Snyman
6. Valatini
7. Sititi
8. Earle
Can't really argue with this pack - it's class from 1 to 8. But personally, I would probably have Mauvaka there ahead of Taylor. Both are brilliant, but Mauvaka just stands out in every single game for France, and does things which no other hooker does.
Prop justice honourable mention for Angus Bell too? He's been amazing when fit
Yep. Unfortunately injuries meant he missed most of the year.
Delete this comment.
Taylor is great but I don't think people realise what Mauvaka accomplishes on the field. Run the ball more than most (if not all) hookers in the world, very accurate lineouts, often reach 15+ tackles per game, break tackles, plays backrow when needed.
This guy is at the same time rapid, solid and technical like a back. I have never seen a hooker so versatile and yet very good at his core tasks. Look at his stats and the WC games, you might discover a freak of a player. I'm not even talking about what he does with Toulouse...
You've basically just described Codie Taylor during the Rugby Championship.
And Malcolm Marx prior to his injury during the RWC last year.
Both incredibly athletic, versatile hookers who are exceptional ball carriers and very real breakdown threats. That's not to say that Mauvaka isn't great - he's brilliant - I just think you're doing Codie Taylor a massive disservice if you think he can't run the ball, do the same dirty work as a backrow forward or break tackles in addition to putting in a proper defensive shift. Not all hookers are equal in the scrum either - some aren't that great - and that is another aspect of Taylor's game that is excellent.
He absolutely deserves the shout for team of the year.
It’s close. Cody Taylor did everything you just said as well, easily the ABs best player.
That comment is what happens when your boundaries are limited to watching French domestic rugby and only French tests ...
I seriously doubt you've been watching Codie Taylor this year.
Those lads just lucky sheehan been out the last 4 months
Mauvaka is the best hooker in the world in my opinion. Incredible offensive player, never caught in defense or in the scrum, the perfect hooker with the vision and running of a back. Just an incredible player.
The same applies to Taylor.
I think Mauvaka is the best hooker too. I think Taylor's performances in 2024 have been better. That's what the Dream Team rewards.
@EggchasersRugby fair enough, France didn't play enough games, especially considering how poor they were at the beginning of the 6 nations.
Who would be the greatest hooker of all time?
When things get tight the warrior is Malcom Marx. The best 2 to ever play for SA. Brutal tackler and ball carrier- no please if you off to war, who you gonna look for?
That will be a monstrous pack!
1. Ox
2. Taylor
3. Lomax
4. Etzebeth
5. Beirne
6. Sititi
7. Du Toit
8. Savea
1 Ox Nche
2 Cody Taylor
3 Frans Malherbe
4 Etsebeth
5 RG snyman
6 Pablo Matera
7 Pieter Steph Du Tackle
8 Ardie Savea
Your funny
Nice backrow 👍🏻
Ox,Taylor,Malherbe, Eben, Snyman PSDT,Wallace, Dorris. So tough...
Lots of green jerseys in that dream 8 🇿🇦🇨🇮
Well SA and Ireland have been the best two teams in the world this year.
Player of the year seems to be lagging by about 12 months...
Eben Etzebeth deserved it last year.
Ardie deserved it the year before.
Seems like each year, they're just making up fro last years cock up!
Agree excepting 3 Atonio, 5 Meafou, 10 Ramos ( sorry I am French 😅)
1 Ox
2 Marx
3 Lomax
4 Eben
5 RG
6 Peter Steph
7 Josh
8 Doris
Ardie Savea?
Marx kan nie sy springers raak gooi nie, hy het seker die swakste ingooi rekord van alle hakkers
1 Ox
2 Taylor
3 Malherbe
4 Eben
5 McCarthy
6 PSDT
7 Kolisi
8 Doris
9 JGP
10 Weakest pos - Ramos
11 Lowe
12 DDA
13 Kriel
14 Kolbe
15 Mallia
No savea whaaaat?
Savea ahead of Kolisi and you gave it spot on.
Ramos isn't a 10 he's a fullback and Russell easily takes it
Santi Carreras at 10.
My 1-8 for 2024
1.Ox
2.Codie T
3.Lowmax
4.Eben
5.G.Martin
6.Doris
7.PSDT
8.Ardie
Martin? Are you joking?
Locks should be Itoje and Va’ii
@ Never over Etzebeth.
@peterhunter6040 I've always felt like they would be a great locking combination. I mean... they just have that same vibe as eachother... like that badboy vibe...you kinda get the feeling they would immediately get along with eachother if they met.
Tim, no shout out for Dan Sheehan at Hooker? He was massive in 6 nations
He scored FIVE tries in six nations
Yep. Should've been mentioned. Superb player.
He’s missed too much time
Yeah, 2024 not a great year for him because of missing the latter half due to injury, but my goodness have Ireland missed the x-factor he brings.
No mention of Aldritt?
1 Ox
2 Mauvaka
3 Malherbe
4 Etzebeth
5 McCarthy
6 PSDT
7 van der flier
8 Dorris
9 DuPont
10 Smith ???
11 LBB
12 DDA
13 Kriel
14 Kolbe
15 Jordan
Who is LBB? Trying hard to think of an 11 better than Kurt-Lee, can’t think of one …mmm..
@@Wolf-hh4rvlouis bielle biarrey for france
Hmmm… Mauvaka would have deserved to be in the list!
Dream Team of rugby RUclipsrs...? Someone needs to make that list. Rugby Bru + Eggchaser first one my list.
KOKO show boys are out in front.
Rugby Bru is too focussed on one team to get close to rivalling Tim on here.
Uggy at 12 Riaan Louw at 15 😂
We missing you down here in SA Tim... It's green all over now so Capetown has fallen back to 7th place of prettiest places in SA.
Where are the other 6 ??
Yip Ardie could do it too for best of 2024 or all time! He's dynamite!
Should also do the bench. Rugby as you know is no longer a 15 man game.
Ebens Game time is unmatched , but I totally see the arguement for Ox, Kolbe and PSDT. Kolbe orovides the most Oh shit moments and PSDT the most Oh shit Stats
What do you mean by game time?
@peterhunter6040 Eben has a lot of minutes on the field in his career, but Kolbe and PSDT probably have more impact per minute .
PSDT or Caelan Doris
2 Marx (No Debate)
3 Malherbe
5 RG Snyman
Open side flank Ardie Savea
Would be interesting to see Marx and RG given a shot at playing 8. Both mobile and skilful. If I was Rassie… Marx is the closest we’ll get to Duane right now
I played lock for 10 years, long live the forwards.
OX is my player of the year.
Lomax Vs Ox will be special next year !!
No, we saw Ox get the better of him this year already.
@@jameswyatt4443Lomax forte is his workrate around the park, which is likely the highest among all props in the world.
@ You clearly know nothing about Frans Malherbe.
@@jameswyatt4443 I vividly recall seeing the Bok scrum back peddling on 3 occasions in the second test.
That was after they’d done the same to the ABs in the first two scrums.
The packs are very even in the set piece.
@@DavidSmith-yi8ou You vividly remember something that didn’t happen. Go watch the game back.
Perhaps Olivon could get a look in ?
Bok supporter her. Can't wait to hear about the backline players. England's Smith must surely be the best halfback??? He is lethal!
Ox. Cheslin. Eben. Phew.... so much more to go but I try to keep it to 3.
😂
I played in every position, but never left the bench!
I think you are missing Ruan Nortje, the boks had a lock crisis with De jager, kleyn, snyman and mostert all being injured and Ruan stepped up and delivered during the rugby championship
Should have been in the new comer category
I agree, the line-outs suffer without him.
We need to celebrate the forwards, World Rugby certainly won't.
Do you even look at the awards?? Props and hookers dont get recognition the rest do especially loosies.
Mmm. Agree on Ox. For hooker, Bongi, Sheehan, Mauvaka also put in huge efforts. Probably Mauvaka by a hair for me.
Tighthead I think is the most glaring. In no universe will I pick Lomax over Malherbe. The very reason Ox has been so dominant, is because of the silent grunt from Malherbe and Koch.
For locks, I think Etzebeth picks himself. Tupo Vaa'i would be my second pick.
For my loosies, PSDT picks himself. The number 6 jersey (yes, NUMBER SIX 😂) could go to Van der Flier or Kolisi. Can we pick Savea at 7? He has played there but not much.
Eighth man wpuld be Doris over Savea, but if Jasper Wiese had veen available for the Ireland series, I think I might have been going with him. What a year from the Upington Vleispaleis. But he didn't, so Doris it is.
I like lists like these but unfortunately they do kind of disqualify the bench forwards from South Africa. Koch, Marx and Kwagga coming off the bench are just incredible.
Oh dear, Ive lost track.
1. Ox
2. Mauvaka
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. Vaa'i
6. Van der Flier
7. PSDT
8. Doris
Angus Bell in great form and right there after Ox. I agree Mauvaka is right there next to Taylor.
Can’t really argue with any of your selections. Maybe Ardie Savea off the bench.
Mauvaka would make it in my team. Like your picks though.
I honestly would take Oviedo from Argentina over Doris. That kid will be world player of the year.
Doris should have got player of the year .
@ absolutely not. Psdt was the clear choice.
There are such good, critical views in this discussion. That is why rugby talk shows & commentating & referee decisions are so annoying; they regard viewers as not knowledgable. Best for me here is the idea of TWO (FPOTY and BPOTY) 15s PsOTY; rewarding players based on home & away performamces; rewarding outstanding players in 2nd stream teams vs top teams in rare outings (SriL & Bangl in cricket shows what regular exposure can achieve). To grow the game, more opportunities between such teams, on great stadia before big crowds, are imperative, so too access to rugby at all age group levels. Rugby is for many men and women a socio-economic liberator and life saver. All aspects of rugby, playing, coaching, refereeing, marketing, administration, fitness, on-field medical care and safety should be promoted as part of rugby opportunities.
Definitely Ox.
I think Valetini deserves a mention for 7
I mentioned him for 6.
@@EggchasersRugby my bad
Josh Van Der Flier is such a class player, definitely one of my favourites
So agree with Lomax an Taylor choice
Hi Tim, please can you do a video on which of the current generation of players and coaches will one day be inducted into the Rugby Hall of Fame.
Absolute guarantees:
1. Rassie Erasmus
2. Siya Kolisi
3. Eben Etzebeth
4. Antoine Dupont
5. Beauden Barrett
6. Sam Whitelock
7. Alun Wyn Jones
Maybes:
8. Cheslin Kolbe
9. PSDT
10. Finn Russell
11. Cian Healy
12. Peter O'Mahony
13. Aaron Smith
14. Owen Farrell
Etc.
PSDT is top 5 players of all time. He is a guarantee IMO. Cheslin too
Former Samoan prop Peter Fatialofa (-2013) was a piano and furniture mover.
The bok pack has literally destroyed most packs. Remember the way that Irish pack got shoved backwards at loftus?
Matched by the AB pack this year.
Didn’t work in Durban though.
@@lizzyhanahoe4197 True. When the Boks were already on the beach and switched off.
@@MobBarley00 well I hope all you SA fans enjoyed the beach while your team was being beaten. Shame on you all for not sticking by them, but on the other hand, I don’t blame you for taking to the beach 🏝 must have been nicer than watching defeat. Well done!
@ I watched the game. Ireland were impressive to be fair. Why don’t the play like that when it matters though? Like in a WC QF?
Frans Malherbe still at 3 for me
Lomax is great but he absolutely does not get ahead of Malherbe
I’m biased but Dan Sheehan at 2 for me all day long ☘️
Ask all props who the most difficult guy to scrum against is, and the name you'll hear most often is Frans Malherbe.
Which makes me wonder ... why aren't the World Rugby award nominations made by other players, instead of an elected panel. In most cases, current players are more honest / less biases (or political) that anyone else in the game. They are the first to acknowledge when someone has played a great game, irrespective of which side that was for.
I think they ll just vote for their teammate...
@@LittleBigMediaCo I think Mayfield is on the current panel. Maybe the Players' Player of the Year Award woukd be good.
@@Impl0ze93 Clearly you don't watch much rugby.
@@davidprentice8108 Matfield is, along with a bunch of other ex players ... but their finger definitely isn't on the pulse quite like the current players.
@@LittleBigMediaCo And how did you deduct that ? Excuse me I know the values of rugby but it doesn't prevent players to vote for their teammate if your system was in place. As a matter of fact, you don't know if that would be true just like I don't. Or are you aware of things because you are such an expert on rugby ?
Flyhalf is so tough. The Boks rotated too much. McKenzie seems to have been displaced by Barrett, England started with Ford, but now Smith is the guy, France were all over the place. So that leaves Finn Russell, and Jack Crowley, and neither feels to me like they deserve it.
Ramos? Albarnoz?
@@randomlyfactual1943 How many games did Ramos play at ten though? not a lot if memory serves.
@@SMacCuUladh it might actually just be albornoz
@SMacCuUladh damn. You're right. I think then Marcus Smith can get the nod, but he had that one real stinker with the boot against NZ. SA and Ireland kind of disqualified themselves due to rotation there, like OP said.
russell takes it easily hasnt had a bad game all season, always the light in the darkness of scotland, incredibly composed in the six nations with the most accurate boot as well, absolutely magic against south africa constantly making things happen despite the pressure put on by the forwards, can't wait to see what he does against Australia this weekend. Not to forget him almost singlehandedly dragging Bath to the premiership final.
Good choice. Id back this pack with the likes of Frans Malherbe and RG Snyman and Sititi on the bench
Lomax over Frans?? Okee...
As a Saffa, I feel the Argies loosies were hard done by to not even get a mention.
I actually agree with all your picks, but I can’t help but notice that the French players seem to suffer from just not playing as many international games. Kind of wild that you, rightly, didn’t include any of their forwards after the performance they just put in against the all blacks. Also, if he could actually play internationally I’d say Jack Willis would make the list because he was awesome in the Champions Cup.
one game doesn't make a year though.
No ox nomination and that’s insane.
Ardie savea rightfully deserved 2023 world player of the year.
He's almost always excellent. Fantastic player and seems like a great fella.
Agree = He was great in RWC - and played for 2 players in the RWC final vs Boks
Nche has been Oxceptional
How is it not a single Welshman made this list? The bias against them is disgusting.
I would include Frans Malherbe and RG Snyman - otherwise no issues with the selection.
Snyman does not start for the Boks
@@jameswyatt4443 Shouldn't have to. The world's best prop also doesn't start
@@mattm7426 Ox Nche starts.
Yes this year. Last year he was a bench player. My point is I don't think players starting on the bench should be excluded
@@mattm7426 And he wasn’t in the team of the year last year. But he started this year and made it. Your point proves nothing. Snyman doesn’t play anywhere near enough for that, it’s very simple.
Can't argue with this at all - possibly Savea:Doris is 50:50?
Although good, I think the hype around Doris is a little over the top. Ben Earl/Sititi/Savea/Aldritt and Wiese has more impact on a game than Caelan - then again, that is just my opinion.
Cannot agree (but wouldn't it be boring if we all thought the same!). 6N and in SA Doris was SO good. Best player in SA series.
take a look at his stats, i don't think you're seeing what he's doing.
@@EggchasersRugby Yes - Dorris won the Boks on his own in the second test in SA
Doris was head and shoulders above as Tim said should have received player of the year award.
Waiting for the missile, Cameron Hanekom to wear the green and gold
Good choices
HI TIM would you a northern vs southern hemisphere teams and a prediction greetings from CAPE TOWN
Hard to argue with that.
A interesting question was ask on saffas unscripted.
When does the world player of the yr selections start. Oct - Oct or jan-nov?
Would be interesting to know because of the world cup players exclusion like psdt who was the best player of the world cup. Ox won the semis for us with his scrums. Team of the yr bokke was not there even as rwc back to back winners and Jacques Nienaber not as coach of the yr.
Interesting thought
It's the calendar year.
@@EggchasersRugby Really? But last year the nominations were done and dusted before the WC quarter finals which given SA resultant performance meant the end results were...well downright embarrassing I thought?
Supposed to be just the calender year, but of course other factors can contribute.
For instance, had I been voting for PSDT, I would have had the world cup final in mind, even though it was last year.
@randomlyfactual1943 that is why the question was raised. This yr make a lot more sense besides OX that is not a nominee, then last yr where Eben was in the world team. I mean the world cup showed the.who the boks really are
My opinoin and im from South Africa
Marx is nowhere what he used to be,he cant find his locks at the line outs even if they 9.0mtrs tall
There was a match against Australia where PSDT started at 4 lock. Eben didn’t play
If the criterion of minutes played worked against the nomination (as mentioned for Ox), then surely DuPont should not have been nominated for Sevens?
Lomax has been found wanting at scrum time occasionally.
Great around the park but scrum is first job rest is fluff.
It’s close between Taylor and Mauvaka tbh
13:15
Hi
Is it possible to have a player of the year for the forwards and a player of the year for the backline For every year forthcoming, thanks
I love Tyrel Lomax and Eben Etzebeth but i wouldn't pick them on this year, purely on them being worse this year than they have been other years and Razor leaving Lomax on the pitch too long after he's knackered constantly.
Tupou Vai'i at lock gets overlooked a lot, his stats are amazing this year. Honorable mention to all the Argentina loosies making up for being behind that rubbish tight 5.
Agree that Argentina loosies are red hot and should be considered
Queue Saffers injustice at not having 8 of their players in the World forward dream team
Brave Tim - or amateur Tim? You do not want to be a selector. It is so much worse than predicting the weather Thanks though really appreciate your opinion.
World Rugby missed a beat. They could have defused the argument that rhey are killing the scrum, instead they double down by ignoring Ox.
Making it very clear the powers that be want to turn our beloved game into a form of Rugby League. The people in charge for the last 6 years and the decade to come are the League playing nations.
Is this based off of form for club too?
No
Mauvaka > Marx by far
1. Eben Etzebeth
2. Eben Etzebeth
3. Eben Etzebeth
4. Eben Etzebeth
5. Eben Etzebeth
6. Eben Etzebeth
7. Eben Etzebeth
8. Eben Etzebeth
9. Eben Etzebeth
10. Eben Etzebeth
11. Eben Etzebeth
12. Eben Etzebeth
13. Eben Etzebeth
14. Eben Etzebeth
15. Eben Etzebeth
he could probably play all the positions at once and still win
Bench - Etzy , Etzy , Etzy , Etzy , Etzy , Etzy , Etzy ….. and a wild card …. Etzy ;)
i dont think he deserved nomination this year
Talk sense, please.
I think this is a great team but out Ox at 1 then its perfect
You should proposition world rugby
Ox and DuPont for you
1. Ox 2..... 3. Lomax
4. Eben 5......
6. PSDT 7. Kolisi
8. Doris
5. I don't know, but it's definitely not Bernie
2. Taylor 4. Itoje. 5. Va’ii 7. Mcreight.
@@peterhunter6040 mcReight, just like Josh had a few quiet games. Siya had none.
@@peterhunter6040 Itoje was a joke right??🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good one👍🏽
Not a sign of Matera, Oviedo ?
My backline
15 Will Jordan
14 James Louw
13 Jesse Kriel
12 Tuipialuto
11 Cheslin Kolbe
10 Handre Pollard
9. Jameson Gibson Park
Front
8 Satiti
7 Peter Steph Du Toit
6
5 Mario Itoje
4 Eben Etzebeth
3 Frans Malherbe
2 Malcolm Marx
1 Ox Nche
Number 6 ( England flanker)
Make a NH team vs a SH team.
Cheslin kolbe!!!
PrenderGOAT at 10 obviously
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Cheslin Kolbe?
Not just that but SA wins the World Cup yet Rassie is not even selected? Biased to oblivion!
3 Irish forwards? Are you on the Guiness again Tim? 😂
Haha. 6N champions and a drawn series in SA. Have to have a pretty solid pack to do that.
@@EggchasersRugby Well said.
If saffer fans were picking a world dream team, they'd pick all boks from 1-15 lol
@@PB22559heavens no, we would never be THAT arrogant!
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We would give the rest of the world a token pick 😁
@@PB22559makes sense right? If you want to win a big tournament that is. If you want to bottle it in a QF then increase the Irish quota.
Do you consider Argentina to be part of World Rugby? Asking because not a player was even mentioned.
Doris over Savea or Alldritt is a crime
1 Ox
2 Mauvaka
3 Lomax
4 etzebeth
5 Pieter Steph
6 Kolisi
7 J vd Fleur
8 Doris
You can’t just swap positions around.
Like what you did, sneaky, but it works 😅
It's no secret that world rugby don't like the way South Africa dominate with their scrum, why would they give credit to a player who destroyed every prop he played against. They even change the rules to try and save his opponents from embarrassment.
no secret? where's the evidence apart from SA fans with a chip on their shoulder?
Taylor? Did you watch the last game?
Did you watch the other 10 games? Don’t be a casual.
@@jameswyatt4443all good things must come to end, and his end is nigh
Just like Ardie was better 2022 than 23