I've driven the M2 with the Cat C7 and MBE engines, and they were both so much nicer than the equivalent International 4300 trucks. The Freightliner drives more like a car, whereas the International feels every bit like a big truck.
I love taking my wife Kristina for rides in my truck. I just bought a new 2020 freight liner cascades with the same type of engine. She loves how it sounds.
man it’s crazy to see you drive around the area where I deliver as a FedEx Delivery Driver. I’m currently trying to start my own box truck business so I can work for myself!
150 gallons is pretty standard for the fuel tanks. The driverside take is usually quite a bit bigger than the passenger side fuel take. Some go as low as 130 gallons.
Nice video man can you please do more driving videos of diesel trucks because they’re my favorite ones they sound great I hope you’re safe and well out there man and take care
I though that was only for Hydraulic brakes and the smaller Allison transmissions? I din't think that they had a gear shifter that would apply an air parking break.
Yea, I think it was for the smaller ones. I always like to have it manually apply my PBrake, but I have to have air brakes. They're a lot safer and nicer.
Yes, air brakes are much safer. But they are a more expensive option. When you see "Park" on a gear shifter it is just a park pawl within the transmission that keeps the vehicle from moving vs. an air brake vehicle such as this which locks up all the brakes.
Yeah I just unblocked it! Most comments with links get automatically sent to spam. So I just saw it. I have never seen such a feature. Looks more complicated then what it would be without it.
When you compare this to the DT, this thing is way better. Its completely different when you are driving it! When you full throttle this truck it takes off and keeps accelerating. The DT truck on the other hand kind of just lurched forward slowly and was a pain to drive. This truck ran the engine fan a few times, it was very loud and of course I floored it to make it louder lol!
I found out I can get a mt 106 with bare frame in good condition used for very cheap the only thing I would have to have the dealer add is a cheap pickup truck bed a nice stereo and some affordable comfortable seats unless the seats they come with are comfortable they even have air brakes it’s my dream to own a rig and that’s a cheap way to do it without paying hundreds of thousands of dollars on a summit hauler it doesn’t have to be luxury as long as it’s comfortable has air brakes air conditioning and a good Bluetooth stereo with some good speakers I’m happy I’m not a fan of the Cummins but I’ll deal with it just so I can own my dream truck my dad was a trucker for 37 years I love big rigs to own one for a personal vehicle is my dream and now because the cdl laws go by weight instead of air brakes the mt 106 by itself is 12- 15,000lbs witch is way under the limit of needing a cdl I can own one I can’t wait to get it and live my dream I always knew I’d find a way to own one for cheap I just didn’t know how now I know
Penn State's student farm has a fleet of trucks including two army-owned Freightliner Classic's with Cummins engines and Allison auto transmissions. I'd like to get behind the wheel of one. They're mainly just used for pulling trailers to and from the fields but it would be really cool to drive one as a student. They also have a few Macks, Internationals, and a Ford LTL9000 dump truck I want to drive.
The Freightliner M2 106 and the Kenworth T800 are my top two choices for trucks, love the designs. A Cummins and an Allison is always a perfect combo. This is the best driving truck I have driven. The emissions stuff doesn't even hinder the performance. This thing accelerates like a bat out of hell, and turbo barked every time I let off the accelerator. I would try to get to drive one those your talking about, if you have never driven anything this big its a pretty neat experience. My next truck I am going to try to get next is a Hino 268.
Nice. I want to get myself an old Ford L9000, Peterbilt 359, or Mack R-model someday just to have as a toy. Can't beat the sound of a mechanical CAT or Mack engine and an old Eaton-Fuller transmission.
Air ride is good until u start feeling your back and behind starts to hurt lol, it has an automatic engine Brake by the way buddy, mines normally kick in around 35mph, great video by the way enjoyed it and stay off out here👍
I drive one just like this one as well. Mine is a 2016. It has a Cummins engine in it. I don't know which one though. I've yet to find any kind of labels under the hood. How can I find out which Cummins engine is in it ? It has a handle shift on the dash for the transmission. I presume it's an Allison. How many gears would this truck have ? The shifter doesn't say.
It is most likely the 6.7L Cummins. But you can find it either by looking at the while label on the very top of the engine on the valve cover. Or sometimes they put it on the build sheet on the passenger sun visor. It would be a 6 speed if its unlocked.
Hey, what year is this M2, I think the reason this truck is so much quieter is that's its a Cummins one and secondly it's might a newer Cummins, I know that the newer cummins RAM truck are a lot quieter that the old ones
This M2 is a 2014. I made a review video of it and I suggest you check out, here is the link ruclips.net/video/2nq5CUdM2Es/видео.html . This and the IH have completely different engines. Its a Cummins 6.7ISB in this Freightliner vs a MaxxForce DT in the IH video.
This truck didn't have it but most of the Ryder trucks have Ram Mounts on the dash that do a good job at holding your cell phone. If you watch my Isuzu video you will see the mount.
carmas54 carmas54 The rear axle ratio is 5.22, It's a 6 speed Allison HS with 4th gear being 1:1 with 5th and 6th being overdrive. I got 11mpg with mostly city driving.One of the best trucks I have driven. Thanks for watching!
is that what Allison considers double overdrive, 11 around town is great, I wonder what Why MPG's would be. The cab is very quite, you don't have that high winding noise that you hear out of the International I'm considering a IH 7300 with a cummings 6.7 or bigger with a 3000 series Allison trans, I have yet to see anybody do a YT video of them driving a IH. thanks
carmas54 The 2 overdrive ratios are pretty close. I was shocked when I went to fill up and couldn't get anymore fuel in the tanks. I have multiple videos of driving an IH 4300 Durastar with the MaxxForce DT, one with an Allison and another with an Eaton Fuller Ultra shift . Which is this trucks competition.I have yet to get ahold of an IH with a Cummins 6.7. But the one with the DT was horrible to drive. I honestly think I could run faster than it could accelerate. Cab noise just from the engine was obnoxious, the DT has this loud annoying valve clicking noise anytime you touch the throttle.
+Crazyjdkid Awsome Video ! Thank You for sharing. I have a question for you Where you able to drive that truck with a Class D license? Does Ryder have any requirements to drive a truck similar to yours ? -Charlie F
I am not sure what is considered a class D license in your state, but anyone with a regular license you would drive a car with can rent and drive the truck in the video. Ryder requires you to have proof of full insurance or you have to buy theirs. No need for an air brake endorsement because the truck is derated 1lb below the legal limit and I used the truck non commercially (Most of Penske is hydraulic) Ryder and Penske will rent to anyone 18 and older, Enterprise requires you to be 21.But be for warned, if you have never driven anything of this size it has a dangerous learning curve of close calls. They are on semi chassis and drive like them, you practically can't see anything but what's ahead of you. Thanks for watching!
I sort of want to clarify of something I mentioned earlier. This truck is CDL rated, but only needs a CDL license if you are using it commercially. I was using it residentially for myself, so I was exempt. This truck is rated over 26,000lbs (its at 27.5k),has airbrakes and a DOT number. So if you were renting it while working for a company or plan to make money with the truck you would have to have a Class B with airbrake endorsement. Kind of a silly loop hole, but not all states allow it.
crazyjdkid Thanks for the help and the reply...I wish the where laws where more clear on GVW with the box trucks and the license you need to drive one. That is a crazy loop hole for sure -Charlie F
Is there a difference regarding the transmissions in these trucks? Some have the push button Allison and some have the car like shifter? Are they different transmissions?
Yes, there are tons of transmissions available for these. The push button is going to be the more heavy duty 3000 series Allison transmission. The one in this truck is the 2500, which is a mechanical shift lever. You may also an Eaton Automated Manual, it has a paddle mounted to the steering column.
@@crazyjdkid is the 2500 still w strong transmission? Say in a dump truck application with a m2 106 under cdl truck, is a 3000 series that much better than a 2000 or just stronger?
The only really difference between the 2000s series is the gearing. The 3000 is rated for a much larger torque input, so it can handle larger engines. You will mostly find the 3000 in larger diesel pusher school buses and RVs. The 3000 is going to handle larger loads much better over an extended period of time. It your doing a bunch of towing or have some slopes, the 3000 would hold up best. It is kind of the gold standard.
Peterbilt makes the best chassis and box trucks.. They either have a cummins or paccar engine, and a eaton manual or allison auto. Freightliner and International haven't been quality trucks in decades
Well to be fair both Freightliner and International come with the engine and transmission options that the equivalent Peterbuilt would. Remember much of the Paccar engines are rebadged Cummins. There is also a major price difference between truck! What it comes down to in the end is usually personal preference. Thanks for watching!
@@crazyjdkid Couldn't agree more on the price/value difference. It's why I would probably get a International or Freightliner if I was tight on money. I learned to drive in a International cab-over(one of the best looking trucks I've ever got to drive) and later drove a lot of 8 and 10 speed Eaton Freighliners in yard switching and OTR. Paccar is partially Cummins(use to be Cat clones). The ECM, DPF, and some block level stuff are different. In the semi world this is made obvious by service coverage. Peterbilt and KW have the nice long noses and tend to have better QA and this tends to be a common opinion in the the industry is all. I've known Freightliner assemblers over the years who had the same opinion.
@@RawDeal-fw3xf I have tried for a few years to get a demonstrator from Hino. Nice people but timing has always fallen through. I would love to get a chance to demonstrate one. From what I understand though I want to compare them to Isuzu in terms of there style and design. They build a machine that the fit and finish is not the prettiest nor the most comfortable but the machine is going to run,work hard and most importantly be reliable. The interior and drive train are going to hold up well into the 100's of thousand of miles. That is pretty normal for Japan based manufacturers. Look at the Isuzu FTR and you will find very similar design and ergonomic aspects. I do like that they include a high horsepower base engine and an engine exhaust brake from factory. They are assembled in West Virginia, I appreciate that they put jobs where jobs are needed since that area has lost a lot of jobs recently. This Freightliner was built in Mexico.
You know, I have been trying to get a hold of a Hino to test for a day! I haven't been able to get one yet. But as soon as I do I will be making a video of it for sure!
TK101Warhammer Well Hinos are made in West Virginia, but designed in Japan and US! Just like the Freightliner is made in Mexico but designed in Germany and the US!
I want one just for fun to go on road trips more fun than a pick up truck love the sound of air breaks and the engine.
I love the freightliners,i want to buy the towtruck version of it
Get you one you won't regret it
lucky for you they make a M2 version with a sleeper meant for going across the country. the summit hauler
I really like the auto downshifting it does when you are coming to a stop!
I drove my first freightliner today and it was awesome!
all automatics do that lol
Reminds me of the Saf-T-Liner bus when going to a field trip at school. Nice!!
I think they're built about the same, though the cheese wagons don't have any of the actual cab parts, just the dash and stuff.
I've driven the M2 with the Cat C7 and MBE engines, and they were both so much nicer than the equivalent International 4300 trucks. The Freightliner drives more like a car, whereas the International feels every bit like a big truck.
I love taking my wife Kristina for rides in my truck. I just bought a new 2020 freight liner cascades with the same type of engine. She loves how it sounds.
These trucks do really well in the Colorado rockies on the old dirt roads and in winter.
man it’s crazy to see you drive around the area where I deliver as a FedEx Delivery Driver. I’m currently trying to start my own box truck business so I can work for myself!
I came across your comment, so I figured I would ask; have you started the business yet? If so, how is it going? If not, do you still plan to?
150 gallons is pretty standard for the fuel tanks. The driverside take is usually quite a bit bigger than the passenger side fuel take. Some go as low as 130 gallons.
Ive had a single tank 50 gallon woth Penske. Not fun other long distances
Man, you are flying lol, craziness
One of the brands I'm considering to buy. But that rattling noise is really a deal breaker.
It was just a loose metal panel on the side door. I could have probably very easily tightened it back up.
Nice video man can you please do more driving videos of diesel trucks because they’re my favorite ones they sound great I hope you’re safe and well out there man and take care
Nice. Too bad it didn't have the PB option on the gear shifter where you can put it in PB and it automatically applies the parking brake.
I though that was only for Hydraulic brakes and the smaller Allison transmissions? I din't think that they had a gear shifter that would apply an air parking break.
Yea, I think it was for the smaller ones. I always like to have it manually apply my PBrake, but I have to have air brakes. They're a lot safer and nicer.
Yes, air brakes are much safer. But they are a more expensive option. When you see "Park" on a gear shifter it is just a park pawl within the transmission that keeps the vehicle from moving vs. an air brake vehicle such as this which locks up all the brakes.
Did you see the link I sent you?
Yeah I just unblocked it! Most comments with links get automatically sent to spam. So I just saw it. I have never seen such a feature. Looks more complicated then what it would be without it.
You're not going to believe this but I found this truck model in a firetruck form today
Yes they use this chassis in a lot of applications! School bus, box truck refuse truck etc! You name it, they have used it on something!
Engine sounds pretty good, but its a shame its hard to find one with a MBE.
Yeah it runs and sounds really smooth. You won't find any MBEs in Rental fleets, too old and don't run clean! Thanks for watching!
crazyjdkid The ISB Does run smooth. The IC CE I ride is powered by one, you can't even hear it from the back, even with the engine fan on.
When you compare this to the DT, this thing is way better. Its completely different when you are driving it! When you full throttle this truck it takes off and keeps accelerating. The DT truck on the other hand kind of just lurched forward slowly and was a pain to drive. This truck ran the engine fan a few times, it was very loud and of course I floored it to make it louder lol!
The DT And Maxx force engines are unreliable period, heck they break down more than MBE's!
The MBE's where pretty bad there kinda equal
I found out I can get a mt 106 with bare frame in good condition used for very cheap the only thing I would have to have the dealer add is a cheap pickup truck bed a nice stereo and some affordable comfortable seats unless the seats they come with are comfortable they even have air brakes it’s my dream to own a rig and that’s a cheap way to do it without paying hundreds of thousands of dollars on a summit hauler it doesn’t have to be luxury as long as it’s comfortable has air brakes air conditioning and a good Bluetooth stereo with some good speakers I’m happy I’m not a fan of the Cummins but I’ll deal with it just so I can own my dream truck my dad was a trucker for 37 years I love big rigs to own one for a personal vehicle is my dream and now because the cdl laws go by weight instead of air brakes the mt 106 by itself is 12- 15,000lbs witch is way under the limit of needing a cdl I can own one I can’t wait to get it and live my dream I always knew I’d find a way to own one for cheap I just didn’t know how now I know
Penn State's student farm has a fleet of trucks including two army-owned Freightliner Classic's with Cummins engines and Allison auto transmissions. I'd like to get behind the wheel of one. They're mainly just used for pulling trailers to and from the fields but it would be really cool to drive one as a student. They also have a few Macks, Internationals, and a Ford LTL9000 dump truck I want to drive.
The Freightliner M2 106 and the Kenworth T800 are my top two choices for trucks, love the designs. A Cummins and an Allison is always a perfect combo. This is the best driving truck I have driven. The emissions stuff doesn't even hinder the performance. This thing accelerates like a bat out of hell, and turbo barked every time I let off the accelerator. I would try to get to drive one those your talking about, if you have never driven anything this big its a pretty neat experience. My next truck I am going to try to get next is a Hino 268.
Nice. I want to get myself an old Ford L9000, Peterbilt 359, or Mack R-model someday just to have as a toy. Can't beat the sound of a mechanical CAT or Mack engine and an old Eaton-Fuller transmission.
I have had bad experiences with the Eaton-Fuller UltraShift, but I would imagine the manuals are pretty good.
They've been in trucks for years so I would think so lol
it has a mercedes atego steering wheel
Parent company is Daimler which also makes Mercedes
It has the cab and ready to drive just the back is bare frame lol
I startup turbo diesel one can you do it
Did you drive an Isuzu one time
What do you do that needs these trucks?
A class b cdl but if the truck is under 26000 pounds u just need a chauffeur license with air brakes
You do not need a chauffeur license or air brake license.
@@crazyjdkid oh I thought u did
Not when it is below 26,000. Only above 26k do you need endorsements.
@@crazyjdkid oh ok
Would this be a good truck for Hotshot trucking
Air ride is good until u start feeling your back and behind starts to hurt lol, it has an automatic engine Brake by the way buddy, mines normally kick in around 35mph, great video by the way enjoyed it and stay off out here👍
Thanks for watching! This unit was not equipped with the engine brake option.
I drive one just like this one as well. Mine is a 2016. It has a Cummins engine in it. I don't know which one though. I've yet to find any kind of labels under the hood. How can I find out which Cummins engine is in it ? It has a handle shift on the dash for the transmission. I presume it's an Allison. How many gears would this truck have ? The shifter doesn't say.
It is most likely the 6.7L Cummins. But you can find it either by looking at the while label on the very top of the engine on the valve cover. Or sometimes they put it on the build sheet on the passenger sun visor. It would be a 6 speed if its unlocked.
Is this a non CDL box truck?
what are all the rattles? this is 2019+ skippy says its so quite.
What?
Rattle is just from the road, sometimes it could just be the dashboard that’s rattling due to a loose screw
Hey, what year is this M2, I think the reason this truck is so much quieter is that's its a Cummins one and secondly it's might a newer Cummins, I know that the newer cummins RAM truck are a lot quieter that the old ones
This M2 is a 2014. I made a review video of it and I suggest you check out, here is the link ruclips.net/video/2nq5CUdM2Es/видео.html . This and the IH have completely different engines. Its a Cummins 6.7ISB in this Freightliner vs a MaxxForce DT in the IH video.
Thanks for the video love cummins engines and Freightliners
I drive a 65 ford f100 stick shifted
Where do you put your cellphone holder so you can see and access it easily ?
This truck didn't have it but most of the Ryder trucks have Ram Mounts on the dash that do a good job at holding your cell phone. If you watch my Isuzu video you will see the mount.
How much is the truck
Do you have to drive with the OD (overdrive) on the on or off position on these trucks?
It stays on unless otherwise shut off.
I need a cdl to drive this box truck?
You do not.
what the rear axle gear ratio? and how many speed (any over drive) in there? and what's your MPG's?
carmas54 carmas54 The rear axle ratio is 5.22, It's a 6 speed Allison HS with 4th gear being 1:1 with 5th and 6th being overdrive. I got 11mpg with mostly city driving.One of the best trucks I have driven. Thanks for watching!
is that what Allison considers double overdrive, 11 around town is great, I wonder what Why MPG's would be. The cab is very quite, you don't have that high winding noise that you hear out of the International I'm considering a IH 7300 with a cummings 6.7 or bigger with a 3000 series Allison trans, I have yet to see anybody do a YT video of them driving a IH. thanks
carmas54 The 2 overdrive ratios are pretty close. I was shocked when I went to fill up and couldn't get anymore fuel in the tanks. I have multiple videos of driving an IH 4300 Durastar with the MaxxForce DT, one with an Allison and another with an Eaton Fuller Ultra shift . Which is this trucks competition.I have yet to get ahold of an IH with a Cummins 6.7. But the one with the DT was horrible to drive. I honestly think I could run faster than it could accelerate. Cab noise just from the engine was obnoxious, the DT has this loud annoying valve clicking noise anytime you touch the throttle.
quite engine too!
Yes, extremely compared to the MFDT!
That rattling would drive me nuts. Sounds like plastic rubbing on plastic.
Yeah, I think one of the door panels was slightly loose. That was causing the rattle noise. Thanks for watching!
lindo vídeo
No engine brake
how does it do on tight right turns in heavy traffic?
Do you drive for a company?
+Crazyjdkid Awsome Video ! Thank You for sharing. I have a question for you Where you able to drive that truck with a Class D license? Does Ryder have any requirements to drive a truck similar to yours ?
-Charlie F
I am not sure what is considered a class D license in your state, but anyone with a regular license you would drive a car with can rent and drive the truck in the video. Ryder requires you to have proof of full insurance or you have to buy theirs. No need for an air brake endorsement because the truck is derated 1lb below the legal limit and I used the truck non commercially (Most of Penske is hydraulic) Ryder and Penske will rent to anyone 18 and older, Enterprise requires you to be 21.But be for warned, if you have never driven anything of this size it has a dangerous learning curve of close calls. They are on semi chassis and drive like them, you practically can't see anything but what's ahead of you. Thanks for watching!
+crazyjkid Thank you for the reply and the useful information I appreciate it!
Have a great rest of your night
-Charlie F
I sort of want to clarify of something I mentioned earlier. This truck is CDL rated, but only needs a CDL license if you are using it commercially. I was using it residentially for myself, so I was exempt. This truck is rated over 26,000lbs (its at 27.5k),has airbrakes and a DOT number. So if you were renting it while working for a company or plan to make money with the truck you would have to have a Class B with airbrake endorsement. Kind of a silly loop hole, but not all states allow it.
crazyjdkid Thanks for the help and the reply...I wish the where laws where more clear on GVW with the box trucks and the license you need to drive one.
That is a crazy loop hole for sure
-Charlie F
crazyjdkid it sounds like a Thomas C2
Now fill the truck up with 10,000 pounds and test drive it. Won't be as fast for sure.
Jackie JEFFREY
Wow
Is there a difference regarding the transmissions in these trucks? Some have the push button Allison and some have the car like shifter? Are they different transmissions?
Yes, there are tons of transmissions available for these. The push button is going to be the more heavy duty 3000 series Allison transmission. The one in this truck is the 2500, which is a mechanical shift lever. You may also an Eaton Automated Manual, it has a paddle mounted to the steering column.
@@crazyjdkid is the 2500 still w strong transmission? Say in a dump truck application with a m2 106 under cdl truck, is a 3000 series that much better than a 2000 or just stronger?
The only really difference between the 2000s series is the gearing. The 3000 is rated for a much larger torque input, so it can handle larger engines. You will mostly find the 3000 in larger diesel pusher school buses and RVs. The 3000 is going to handle larger loads much better over an extended period of time. It your doing a bunch of towing or have some slopes, the 3000 would hold up best. It is kind of the gold standard.
Peterbilt makes the best chassis and box trucks.. They either have a cummins or paccar engine, and a eaton manual or allison auto. Freightliner and International haven't been quality trucks in decades
Well to be fair both Freightliner and International come with the engine and transmission options that the equivalent Peterbuilt would. Remember much of the Paccar engines are rebadged Cummins. There is also a major price difference between truck! What it comes down to in the end is usually personal preference. Thanks for watching!
@@crazyjdkid Couldn't agree more on the price/value difference. It's why I would probably get a International or Freightliner if I was tight on money. I learned to drive in a International cab-over(one of the best looking trucks I've ever got to drive) and later drove a lot of 8 and 10 speed Eaton Freighliners in yard switching and OTR.
Paccar is partially Cummins(use to be Cat clones). The ECM, DPF, and some block level stuff are different. In the semi world this is made obvious by service coverage. Peterbilt and KW have the nice long noses and tend to have better QA and this tends to be a common opinion in the the industry is all. I've known Freightliner assemblers over the years who had the same opinion.
What's yall opinion of the hino 268?
@@RawDeal-fw3xf I have tried for a few years to get a demonstrator from Hino. Nice people but timing has always fallen through. I would love to get a chance to demonstrate one. From what I understand though I want to compare them to Isuzu in terms of there style and design. They build a machine that the fit and finish is not the prettiest nor the most comfortable but the machine is going to run,work hard and most importantly be reliable. The interior and drive train are going to hold up well into the 100's of thousand of miles. That is pretty normal for Japan based manufacturers. Look at the Isuzu FTR and you will find very similar design and ergonomic aspects. I do like that they include a high horsepower base engine and an engine exhaust brake from factory. They are assembled in West Virginia, I appreciate that they put jobs where jobs are needed since that area has lost a lot of jobs recently. This Freightliner was built in Mexico.
@@crazyjdkid thanks brother
why isn'tit making that buzzing noise freightliners usually make
+Wolfpuppy1010 Gaming What buzzy noise are you talking about?
wytb?
Same engine as the Dodge Ram
HINO 268 or 338 are the best
You know, I have been trying to get a hold of a Hino to test for a day! I haven't been able to get one yet. But as soon as I do I will be making a video of it for sure!
crazyjdkid can’t wait usually enterprise has the HINOS
I have seen them in Penske, Ryder, Budget, and Enterprise. Just have never been able to snag one at the right time I guess!
Matt Rinaldi so you think Japanese trucks are the best trucks.
TK101Warhammer Well Hinos are made in West Virginia, but designed in Japan and US! Just like the Freightliner is made in Mexico but designed in Germany and the US!
nice. :)
Thanks! Sure is a nice truck to drive!
crazyjdkid
ur welcome. :) im saying it is becuz i like freightliner. lol :)
Fix that fuckin rattle!! that would drive me crazy after a few hours..!
What is your business sir
I was transporting furniture with this truck! Thanks for watching!
@@crazyjdkid i thought you're in expediting
@@alvinreypascual4802 Nope! I get them from time to time to move furniture and make videos. I am a mechanical engineer by trade!
International is better.
not in my view
Ikr!! it is the best
Freightliner is a very good truck manufacturer and the 6.7 gives more torque that's why it is peppy
i honestly like both
So do I!
Hope u get better at driving
There is no good driving in Atlanta
Jackie JEFFREY