Would like to hear back which of these work in honour, since damage riders were largely nerfed but I think not all of them (pal smites still are different for example)
@Gaming Birch: For what Patch was this tested? What difficulties? (To my knowledge there are many differences particularly between Honor mode and the other difficulties).
Tested on Tactician. In Honour, Ring of Flinging and Agonizing Blast work the same (edit: it actually doesn't), but I don't have an Honour save to test the rest. I assume it would work the same, Honour Mode has differences for example in action management (e.g. no extra attack with Haste) and additional abilities for bosses, but things like rolls or damage calculation work the same. As for the version... well, I guess this 0:03-0:13 isn't as unmissable as I thought :D
@@GamingBirch Thank you very much. About that Honor save: Yes, is a problem. One hint here: If you make a custom run at Patch 7, you can select now the Honor Mode ruleset in Custom Mode. Thus you will be able to have normal save files without deletion and use the Honor Mode ruleset (technically it is not Honor Mode, but the rules are the same). Unfortunately you need to set this option at the start of a run. About the version: Yes, I did not read that text. Sorry for that. I was so fixated on the mechanics presented. And later I could not remember that a version was mentioned.
@@What_do_I_Think Oh, good tip, I must have missed that update. I thought rules like this are still Honour-specific and can't be accessed in Custom. I guess I put too much information at once. I have to do it better next time. Thanks, it's valuable feedback for me!
@What_do_I_Think me again. I need to correct what I said earlier - I went to try Honour, just to be sure, and I wasn't able to trigger Agonizing Blast or Ring of Flinging this time. I am not sure why I though it did. Either it's been much longer since I tried it and it's been patched, or I just misremembered. Either way, sorry for the misleading info.
@@GamingBirch Thank you for the correction. No problem at all. It speaks for you that you came back to it and reported it! I heard somewhere, that they corrected some effects that can occur in combination with throwing attacks that created a lot additional dmg. This was only corrected in Honor, I suppose because they did not want to increase the difficulty or spoil any builds in the old difficulty classes. But as they released Honor, they had the chance to do some drastic changes. It could just be, that they fixed there the things you reported, because it went into the game unintended (bugs). Thanks again!
Would like to hear back which of these work in honour, since damage riders were largely nerfed but I think not all of them (pal smites still are different for example)
damage riders dont proc on honour mode anymore unfortunately, but the first part of the video is still useful nevertheless!
@Gaming Birch: For what Patch was this tested? What difficulties? (To my knowledge there are many differences particularly between Honor mode and the other difficulties).
Tested on Tactician. In Honour, Ring of Flinging and Agonizing Blast work the same (edit: it actually doesn't), but I don't have an Honour save to test the rest. I assume it would work the same, Honour Mode has differences for example in action management (e.g. no extra attack with Haste) and additional abilities for bosses, but things like rolls or damage calculation work the same.
As for the version... well, I guess this 0:03-0:13 isn't as unmissable as I thought :D
@@GamingBirch Thank you very much.
About that Honor save: Yes, is a problem. One hint here: If you make a custom run at Patch 7, you can select now the Honor Mode ruleset in Custom Mode. Thus you will be able to have normal save files without deletion and use the Honor Mode ruleset (technically it is not Honor Mode, but the rules are the same). Unfortunately you need to set this option at the start of a run.
About the version: Yes, I did not read that text. Sorry for that. I was so fixated on the mechanics presented. And later I could not remember that a version was mentioned.
@@What_do_I_Think Oh, good tip, I must have missed that update. I thought rules like this are still Honour-specific and can't be accessed in Custom.
I guess I put too much information at once. I have to do it better next time. Thanks, it's valuable feedback for me!
@What_do_I_Think me again. I need to correct what I said earlier - I went to try Honour, just to be sure, and I wasn't able to trigger Agonizing Blast or Ring of Flinging this time.
I am not sure why I though it did. Either it's been much longer since I tried it and it's been patched, or I just misremembered. Either way, sorry for the misleading info.
@@GamingBirch Thank you for the correction.
No problem at all. It speaks for you that you came back to it and reported it!
I heard somewhere, that they corrected some effects that can occur in combination with throwing attacks that created a lot additional dmg. This was only corrected in Honor, I suppose because they did not want to increase the difficulty or spoil any builds in the old difficulty classes. But as they released Honor, they had the chance to do some drastic changes. It could just be, that they fixed there the things you reported, because it went into the game unintended (bugs).
Thanks again!