you guys should give lessons on how to do video bike reviews. Seriously, you are destroying the competition in this regard, keep it up!! Great review, great bike, i'll stick with my even more sporty-tourer BMW S1000r tho!
I don't know how you're able to seamlessly cut those shots and camera angles for this review, it is absolutely the best I have ever seen for motorcycle reviews! Keep it up!
Truly a master class of biking review. Awesome job, Spurgeon - walking the very tight line of not being over-geeky yet super-technical; and, on the other hand, not being over flashy but showing some serious chops on the curves. Definitely seems like someone who not only understands bikes, but is willing to spend 2 weeks with them just to create an informative review. Way to go!
Great review! RevZilla is setting the standard for motorcycle reviews these days. Everyone likes the big BMW bikes, but they are so pricey. I'd love to see some midsize or value priced bikes.
+thepassionofthegoose My wife has a van, but I don't own a car. My bike is my transportation. Having said that, $18-25,000 for a bike is a lot of money to most of us. My dentist has two big BMW's, but he'd never think of riding them to work. I think those of us who really like to ride, ride whatever we got. Some of the folks who buy expensive bikes, just buy expensive bikes. Make what you will of that.
I'm really enjoying these bike reviews you guys are putting out. I also really like how you're showing the gear the rider is wearing with the post production work.
Hi from the UK. Rode Skyline drive back in June on a Harley Streetglide on my way across country. Watching this video makes me wanna come back. It was an awesome experience..very surreal.
You guys are really doing a great job with these reviews, they are some of the best motorcycle reviews out there for sure. Very informative and interesting content, and nice shots as well. Thanks!
This is a peerless motorcycle review with a continuous but entertaining flow of real-world useful advice and information. It is possibly the best and most professional I have seen on RUclips and should act as the benchmark against which all others should be compared. Excellent work guys - keep them coming!!
I like the film shots of the rider position. I get bad cramps in my legs so befor I even look at a bike I need to scan through lids of videos and pics of the rider position. Good video and worth the watch.
This is the best review I've seen to date! All the goods and the bads are right on the spot. My major complain has been the bars and I am considering replacing them with the ones from the R1200R. I also added the Cylinder Head Protection that is a must. It would be a very costly drop if that should happen and it can happen to any rider. Also, for an $18K bike the bags should be included. Awesome video with great scenes from my hometown!
For some reason... I really love this bike, its pretty cool, and this is the first "real" review for it, which is awesome. You guys are def setting the standard for bike reviews right now. this is a major contender for something that could go in my garage...
REALLY enjoyed this review, Spurg. Superb production values, killer content and commentary. I have a new R12RS, and absolutely love it. GREAT bike. My only complaints: - Front fender is too short, allowing mud, rocks, debris to hit the front of the engine case - No rear fender/mudguard/hugger, allowing aforementioned road muck to fling onto my rear shock, and everything else back there...
The video quality is simply spectacular. The picturesque scenes selected are unbelievably awesome. Your reviews continue getting better and better...Really far away from the competition these days. Thumbs up for the good job!! Will you please make a detailed review of the new Honda Africa Twin CRF100L? Thanks guys!
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G review, production, camera takes, everything! Reveille came to gnaw on the bones of competition. One question: are you guys using drones for some of the front facing takes? I'm speechless to the kind of videos you guys are producing! Keep it up.
great test ride and review, you guys are right up there wit the professional moto-journalists at Cycle World and Motorcyclist! At first I was a little put off by the subtle sales pitches for the aftermarket stuff, but now I appreciate your insight.
Great looking and riding bike. The seating position makes it a great commuter too! I agree on the luggage. I always keep just my top case mounted for filtering in SoCal. Side cases for trips.
Great review. Thanks! I've been considering parking one of these next to my Multistrada. I'm 6-4 and liked the less cramped peg position when I sat on the r1200rs at the dealer. And the leaned over posture isn't as aggressive as a full sport. I love my Multi but the top-heaviness is harder to manage in the corners.
You want crash bars? The bike will just slide on the cylinder heads, put covers on them if you must, or try not falling off! Bar risers are personal, it's supposed to be a sports tourer, not a tourer. The original R100RS, and I've had four, had sports type bars, as did the R1100S and RS. If you want to sit upright get an RT, or even an R1200R (which I have now) which is actually a more engaging ride, albeit you lose the fairing (and still no crash bars!). Otherwise a great balanced review, as always.
Fantastic review and great camera-work. :) Revzilla is also my favorite online retailer. :D I have a thing or two to learn about bike reviews from you guys! This bike seems like a solid sport-tourer.
Great review! I have the 1200RT and Love it, but after watching this review, I wish I has the RS. Same luggage capacity for trips with my wife, but with the RS, I could strip down to a real sport machine for riding solo 40 miles to work, and rides with friends.
An incredibly sophisticated bike. I agree with you about the engine crash bars and bar risers. Most of the time I would just use a top box if it was large enough. Best shaft driven sports bike on the market.
PS: Revzilla reviews are my faves! Each of you does a top job though Lenny's insightful, yet totally down to earth reports are spot on. Keep 'em coming! (And the new Super Duke GT..?)
Probably, this is the best bike review filming ever. I enjoyed it a lot but clean rear suspension would be nicer to watch. This BMW is too good to be seen dirty. Thank you.
its all about marketing. this is a sport/TOURING bike. and it seems that BMW wants to accent the touring part of it. and on a touring bike, the speedometer is more important for the rider, since he will almost never redline his/her bike but on most superbikes, its the other way around thats just a personal guessing of course, not a rock solid fact ;)
I'm 70 and its the most all around great handling and comfortable bike I ever owned and I have owned many BMWS.. A bit of Whining about BS. I bought a slightly larger windscreen and its perfect in cold weather and rain. He didn't mention this fairing handles strong winds excellent!
Nice review - helped me a lot. It's worth noting that Gear Shift Assist Pro does nothing if you use the clutch. The mechanism works up and down the gearbox flawlessly and smoothly without the clutch as long as the throttle is kept shut on the down shifts and good acceleration - plenty of throttle - on the up shifts. If you're on a light throttle you need to use the clutch, otherwise it's messy. Get in in first for tight corners and junctions and enjoy the smooth acceleration all the way up the box.
My daily rider is '97 BMW R1100RS. It is an awesome bike, very stable and with a lot of torque. You can carry very heavy luggage on the highway and the bike still handles like a dream. I am still impressed on how well that old bike runs. I am a total boxer engine fan, it has a great feel and character. The new boxer engine has come a long way, and I hope that one day I can buy this one. I am sure that they new front suspension is great, but you forgot to point out that the RS doesn't have the telelever suspension. That is one feature that I enjoy a lot on the older version. Not having front brake dive inspires a lot of confidence and it is very comfortable for passengers. I think that the older RS didn't include the luggage as well. Lastly, the older RS also has that slightly leaned forward position, and there is a lot of mixed opinions as many people prefer a more straight forward position for the touring part. Personally I think is part of the sport side of the design and I am glad they kept it until today. Thanks for the detailed review!
I've been a big fan of the R1200R and RnineT for a few years now, though this one's recently stolen my affections. I'm not buying unfortunately, but man do I like this bike! Second time watching this review. :-] I'd have to go with the blue/white paint, and of course an Akrapović!
Ive got one but still waiting for the Akrapovic. Almost went for the RNT but I ended up with the RS as I felt it provided the best of both worlds in terms of styling and practicallity.
Great review and I'm so pleased it's not just me that noticed the "heavy" feel at lower speeds, needing opposite input in tight turns! I have had a fleet of boxers, this one breaks the mold completely..I can't wait until Spring to get out on some longer rides..One slight criticism of your review and that's the demographic, which seems to stop at 50! I'm 62, been riding since 16. Trust me my young friend, though 50 may seem a far off spec across the ocean right now, your time will come sooner than you think.. Oh and my other bike is a Ducati 1000 DS supersport, and I'm not too old for that yet! ride safe folks...
Fantastic review. I own a 1998 VFR 800 with 60K on the clock that I adore, but in about 40,000 miles (give/take two years) I'll be looking for something new and this looks about perfect.
Thanks for the review, Spurgeon. I was initially more excited for this bike's arrival, but your video (and article) have given me pause. I, too, dislike the fact that BMW provides superfluous accessories at the expense of panniers given the bike's intended functionality. While the RS is a personality match for me, I am skeptical as to whether or not it has a place in my garage.
+Sir Revzalot I'd say you should take it for a test ride. Even if you don't end up buying it, it's a hell of a machine and you won't regret at least taking it for a spin. What are you currently riding?
+Spurgeon Dunbar Thanks for the reply, dude. I'm riding a 2014 Street Triple R, and I love it. After sitting on the R 1200 RS, I recognize it has more relaxed ergos than my current ride. It's an impressive machine that gets me excited (Odd for a BMW, right?). Do you think the RS is a good next step?
+Sir Revzalot the R 1200 RS will be more relaxed than the your current ride. I love the Street Triple for what it is, a sport bike with handlebars instead of clip-ons. It spins up fast and frantic and allows for an aggressive ride. The RS is more refined. The Street Triple is a wild-eyed teenager in comparison. I'd say your next step is to test ride the RS and see if it meets your needs. What are you looking to tackle? Longer rides? Additional comfort? Available luggage? If so, you might prefer the RS. However, if you just like burning up backroads on the weekends you might find it better to stick with the Street Triple. We are lucky to live in a day and age where it is hard to find a "bad" motorcycle. It's all about finding the right motorcycle to meet our needs and budget. I wish you luck!
Thanks for your reply, Spurgeon. I am looking for a more touring-capable bike, so the R 1200 RS is definitely in the equation. There are other bikes that perform the touring function better for the price, however. This bike will have to fit like a glove to override my hesitation. Thank you for your time, dude.
I don't like the colour options. Topcase is too small for most tourers too. The 49 litre topcase they offer the RT should have the same fittings so the rider can choose which to attach
+Grant85kg We are working hard with the OEMs to start tackling as many bikes as possible including a variety of price points and styles. As we continue to develop we hope to bring you even more reviews in 2016. Thanks for the feedback!
Outstanding review! I'm with Spurgeon here as far as the boxer. Needs crash protection. Crash bars look fine on a GS but man, they'd look fugly on a sport bike. Also adds a good bit of weight to a bike they tried to keep light. Probably not a bike I'd be interested in but a helluva review for the folks looking to buy one. Now I have a request! Please oh please do a review on the KTM 1290 Super Adventure!! Thanks in advance. ;-)
Greg got away yes, ugly but for touring in a playful way the engine guard, with the low light add ones make it a balanced and tough looking machine with the bags on it. Sorta MadMax like in all grey. I got ultra long pro commutes (which I created) so love the safety, strength, and full package option and that makes it look awesome. That said Aprilia makes a super pretty 1100 v4 factory which I would really appreciate for a gorgeous day play sex toy. Ahahaha😚
Veri nice review, this is the kind of stuff I want to hear when I watch reviews. I don't want to be sold before the review stars. Fair and honest stuff Great work. Thanks
I'm considering a 2018 version of this bike that was dropped but brought back to OE by a BMW service outlet. Evidently the valve cover cracked by the valves themselves were not damaged. I'd love some feedback about this from folks who know the bike.
I like the concept of the bike. I'm almost 60, and looking for my first bike, and I'm looking for a long distance commuter/sport tourer. I agree with Spurg's assesment that the bike should come, as standard, with luggage. I also agree with him that some sort of a riser for the bars should be available, but I suspect that Helibars will be along shortly with something, if they don't already have it. Maybe Alt-Rider will come out with some crash bars, too, if they haven't already. But, here's my biggest complaint. At just a hair over $18K, with no luggage, a small windscreen, and an underwhelming display, around here, in the Seattle area, I can get a two to three year old K1600GT, with less than 10,000 miles (in some cases, less than 4,000 miles, for $18K. Okay, it's not a new bike, and I realize the demographics for BMW riders probably demands a 'new' bike, but for me, given that much money to spend on a bike, I certainly would be willing to purchase a gently used motorcycle like the K1600GT or GTL over the R1200RS. BMW does make an engine protection bar for the bike, as well as adjustable foot pegs and a host of other products. But, optioned with luggage, engine protection, windscreen, etc., the bike tops out at over $22K. I could build a very nice F800GT for less than $16K with more storage space! Still, I wouldn't complain too much if one found it's way into my parking spot. :)
+Gary C I understand your used argument. Almost all of the motorcycles I have ever owned have had someone else's miles on them first. There is nothing wrong with that. When you start pricing out the bikes with real world numbers there are a lot of options to choose from. Be careful with some of those early K1600GTs, they had some known bugs with them. An F800GT would be a great consideration. I would think you could probably find one of those used for a great price. You have a lot of great options out there, Gary. Congrats on getting into the sport. Let us know if there is anything we can do for you, aside from being able to get one of these into your parking spot!
Spurgeon, I can get a low mileage used F800GT, under 4,000 miles. They jacked the price $1,000 for the holidays to give me 10% off, but still in all, it wouldn't be a bad bike. www.peninsulamotorcyclestore.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=338470&pov=4485560 My problem, right now anyway, is lack of funds, and my credit rating took a dive due to being out of work for seven months. I'd need to get a set of bags for it, but I'm sure it would be a good commuter bike, and occasional weekend tourer.
Well done review. Given the update with the R1250RS and its new ShiftCam engine, any chance you can do an update on the new versions. I have the R1250RS and don't think thee is wide knowledge of the incredible performance and electronics of this new version.
I think the standard r1200gs is a better value, about the same price,wieght,same engine, will sport tour no problem. ..biggest difference is you can spoon on some knobbies and go off road too! Revzilla has the best reviews and project prices!
Yes if value is what you are looking for then the GS is hard to beat in its all round capability. But will you really take your GS off road? The RS looks nicer , is lighter and has almost the all round abilities of a GS (minus off road). The RS is probably better on a freeway too.
Very impressive production values. Interesting how you're able to panic cross the bike yes it's driving down the road. I would've liked to have the on-screen narrator shut up for a while just so that we could hear the note of the bikes engine and exhaust.
sweet review. I've been looking and riding a bunch of BMWs. the rs is definitely a nice bike. what blows my mind is that BMW (rumor is) that '16 is the last year of the Kbike. However, it really does seem like BMW is making great success with the boxer/suspension platform. I'm hard pressed to make up my mind between the 4 boxers.
one important thing you missed - there are 4 different seats for the rs and r ..I have an R and the seat was too low for my 6ft...so while i had it reupholstered, there are 3 more higher versions available (pricey though) ,as mine came with the lowest ..and it makes fpr a very uncomfortable seat to peg relationship. Im not sure if the RS has a different seat to peg relationship as std ?
Great review as always guys! Out of curiosity, what are you using to capture your audio while riding? Very clean audio, so I know you're not using a Sena back pac. Keep up the great work team zilla!
You did a well detailed vidéo...I went with the FJR1300 2016...but my first pick was the BMW and now am starting to regret because of the heavyness of it...
Great video for the most part, but this made it really hard for me to want to subscribe and come back for more: If you care to read thoughts as I humbly accept I may be the only one here... Background music too loud when talking. Noisy river as background noise when talking. Over excited, almost shouting into the helmet microphone makes it hard to sustain interest. Get better wind protection or something to help reduce the need to raise voice. Introduce a few more natural pauses. Seems like all dialog has nothing but commas in it.... 09:55 for example... Pause... dont replace a pause with... "Now". I'm not good at video editing (my videos are proof of that), but some feedback.
Awsome review as always! keep up the good work. I have some dirt bikes, a Husky and of course 300 Ktm. SP (Stillwell performance) has always helped me with after market stuff, shocks etc. In that regard, one of the first things dirt-bikers talk about is sag. Is sag considered after the purchase of a street bike? Wood be a fun video. Oh, and my sister appreciates her sun-glasses back. She approves of the new ones as well:), AND as always, shiny side up.
With electronic suspension like on this BMW, sag isn't an issue. The bike is setting everything up for you. On other bikes it's often over looked but since the suspension is no where near as soft as dirt bikes, unless you're in the extremes when it comes to weight, it's usually somewhere close. It would be great to see some Zilla setup videos but I'm not sure what would be in it for them. MC Garage with the 'On Two Wheels' guys has a lot of cool stuff like that.
This is a little bit random, but did you have any trouble getting the Sena to attach to the Schuberth S2? I was considering getting one (the Sena) but I have heard that there is some trouble when trying to get it attached and still being able to use the internal sun visor. It looks pretty good on yours though.
+Milta The more random the question the better! We had no issues. As long as you mount the unit itself far enough back on the shell it shouldn't interfere with the visor dropdown mechanism. Thanks for watching!
Great and fun review! very nice bike indeed. Although i disagree with calling the concours(gtr1400) or vfr800 its competition, the real competition would sooner be the suzuki gsx-s1000f and the kawasaki ninja1000 (z1000sx).
Surgeon, you have done just a little too good a job on this bike. I just bought it base in no small part in your wonderfully done review and not only that I've kept the guys at Reveille busy finding the go to accessories and gear to go along with this new beemer. If you were getting a commission on all this "results' you could probably buy yourself one as well. ahahahahah' give my best to Anthony , love you guys and I agree with all the accolades about your approach to this way of review. Love the way you guys work in ideal gear choices for the elements you phase as you review these new bikes in all kinds of weather. I agree the brakes take a little getting used to. hahahah
Ray, thank you so much for the kind words. It's great to hear when people find value in what we are doing. I hope you're enjoying the bike. Please send a private email to CS@RevZilla.com letting me know what email address your RevZilla account information is under.
you guys should give lessons on how to do video bike reviews. Seriously, you are destroying the competition in this regard, keep it up!! Great review, great bike, i'll stick with my even more sporty-tourer BMW S1000r tho!
Right? They have some awesome camera guys.
+greg alford Thanks for watching! That S1000R is a hell of a bike! Sporty-tourer indeed! What kind of luggage setup do you use?
+ParanoidPixel Our cameraman Ryan is the best. He is a daredevil to tackle some of the shots he gets!
Well said!!!
+greg alford The best bike reviews
I don't know how you're able to seamlessly cut those shots and camera angles for this review, it is absolutely the best I have ever seen for motorcycle reviews! Keep it up!
The RevZillaTV production team thanks you!
Check out powerdrift they have crazy bike review videos
Truly a master class of biking review. Awesome job, Spurgeon - walking the very tight line of not being over-geeky yet super-technical; and, on the other hand, not being over flashy but showing some serious chops on the curves. Definitely seems like someone who not only understands bikes, but is willing to spend 2 weeks with them just to create an informative review. Way to go!
Best Bike review I have ever seen, clear,concise and thorough without all the unwanted B.S and chatter
Great review! RevZilla is setting the standard for motorcycle reviews these days.
Everyone likes the big BMW bikes, but they are so pricey. I'd love to see some midsize or value priced bikes.
+giff74 yes they are...almost the best at everything now
+giff74 I agree! We are currently out testing and shooting a very fun mid-sized bike that is also value priced! Stay tuned!
+giff74 I look at these as an honest alternative to a car, but I totally hear what you're saying about price.
+Spurgeon Dunbar would love to help you test more bikes from a gals view
+thepassionofthegoose My wife has a van, but I don't own a car. My bike is my transportation. Having said that, $18-25,000 for a bike is a lot of money to most of us. My dentist has two big BMW's, but he'd never think of riding them to work. I think those of us who really like to ride, ride whatever we got. Some of the folks who buy expensive bikes, just buy expensive bikes. Make what you will of that.
RevZilla is the "60 Minutes" of bike reviews. Not to mention the excellent customer service and products information available.
You guys make some of the best reviews, definitely the best in Amercia. I could do without the music, though; not sure what that’s for.
I'm really enjoying these bike reviews you guys are putting out. I also really like how you're showing the gear the rider is wearing with the post production work.
Hi from the UK. Rode Skyline drive back in June on a Harley Streetglide on my way across country. Watching this video makes me wanna come back. It was an awesome experience..very surreal.
The production quality of these videos is top shelf.
The quality of these bike reviews is outstanding! Y'all are killing it!
You guys are really doing a great job with these reviews, they are some of the best motorcycle reviews out there for sure. Very informative and interesting content, and nice shots as well. Thanks!
This is a peerless motorcycle review with a continuous but entertaining flow of real-world useful advice and information. It is possibly the best and most professional I have seen on RUclips and should act as the benchmark against which all others should be compared. Excellent work guys - keep them coming!!
I like the film shots of the rider position. I get bad cramps in my legs so befor I even look at a bike I need to scan through lids of videos and pics of the rider position. Good video and worth the watch.
This is the best review I've seen to date! All the goods and the bads are right on the spot. My major complain has been the bars and I am considering replacing them with the ones from the R1200R. I also added the Cylinder Head Protection that is a must. It would be a very costly drop if that should happen and it can happen to any rider. Also, for an $18K bike the bags should be included. Awesome video with great scenes from my hometown!
Thanks for a masterclass on how to make an excellent bike review. You cover all the bases and manage to ride at the same time!!! Respect!
For some reason... I really love this bike, its pretty cool, and this is the first "real" review for it, which is awesome.
You guys are def setting the standard for bike reviews right now. this is a major contender for something that could go in my garage...
The bike, Kool. The video, audio, camera, dialog, music, details............ One of the best I've ever seen. Should win an award or two.
REALLY enjoyed this review, Spurg. Superb production values, killer content and commentary.
I have a new R12RS, and absolutely love it. GREAT bike. My only complaints:
- Front fender is too short, allowing mud, rocks, debris to hit the front of the engine case
- No rear fender/mudguard/hugger, allowing aforementioned road muck to fling onto my rear shock, and everything else back there...
I love this guys reviews. I recently put a deposit on the tiger 800xca and his review of it definitely helped my decision making.
+Daniel Adam Mereel thank you so much. The fact that I was able to help in your decision on the Tiger means a lot. I hope you are enjoying the bike!
The video quality is simply spectacular. The picturesque scenes selected are unbelievably awesome. Your reviews continue getting better and better...Really far away from the competition these days. Thumbs up for the good job!! Will you please make a detailed review of the new Honda Africa Twin CRF100L? Thanks guys!
+Marcelo Lopez I would love to get my hands on that bike sooner than later!
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G review, production, camera takes, everything! Reveille came to gnaw on the bones of competition. One question: are you guys using drones for some of the front facing takes? I'm speechless to the kind of videos you guys are producing! Keep it up.
+Wagner Melo Nope, no drones, just great camerawork by our cameraman Ryan. -DrewZilla
Great video and review! Top notch photography! I am looking forward to your next review.
great test ride and review, you guys are right up there wit the professional moto-journalists at Cycle World and Motorcyclist! At first I was a little put off by the subtle sales pitches for the aftermarket stuff, but now I appreciate your insight.
Great looking and riding bike. The seating position makes it a great commuter too! I agree on the luggage. I always keep just my top case mounted for filtering in SoCal. Side cases for trips.
Virginia is for lovers...of awesome roads! Excellent video. Wish I could afford to trade in my R1200GS for one of these...
Don't feel too bad about it , the GS is also an excellent bike. I have the 2017 RS in Lupin Blue and am loving every moment of owning it.
Great review. Thanks! I've been considering parking one of these next to my Multistrada. I'm 6-4 and liked the less cramped peg position when I sat on the r1200rs at the dealer. And the leaned over posture isn't as aggressive as a full sport. I love my Multi but the top-heaviness is harder to manage in the corners.
+rekinlas Yeah, I am 6'3" and I was impressed with how comfortable I was the whole time on this bike.
Great review as always and thanks for keeping the music in the background. I can actually hear you.
Revzilla for president!
You want crash bars? The bike will just slide on the cylinder heads, put covers on them if you must, or try not falling off! Bar risers are personal, it's supposed to be a sports tourer, not a tourer. The original R100RS, and I've had four, had sports type bars, as did the R1100S and RS. If you want to sit upright get an RT, or even an R1200R (which I have now) which is actually a more engaging ride, albeit you lose the fairing (and still no crash bars!). Otherwise a great balanced review, as always.
These are great, guys. Keep this up!
Some bikes I'd love to see reviewed: Monster 821 and 1200 R, Street and Speed Triple, Indian Chief, Diavel...
For me, to save money I would add soft saddle, tank and rear top bags from the aftermarket to start! Say like Nelson-Rigg!
Hope to review one of these bad boys soon..... Looks a great bike and was great to watch your vids as always.... Ride Safe :)
Fantastic review and great camera-work. :) Revzilla is also my favorite online retailer. :D I have a thing or two to learn about bike reviews from you guys! This bike seems like a solid sport-tourer.
Great review! I have the 1200RT and Love it, but after watching this review, I wish I has the RS. Same luggage capacity for trips with my wife, but with the RS, I could strip down to a real sport machine for riding solo 40 miles to work, and rides with friends.
Congratulation guys, well done. Great landscape pictures and a lot of information.
An incredibly sophisticated bike. I agree with you about the engine crash bars and bar risers. Most of the time I would just use a top box if it was large enough. Best shaft driven sports bike on the market.
PS: Revzilla reviews are my faves!
Each of you does a top job though Lenny's insightful, yet totally down to earth reports are spot on.
Keep 'em coming!
(And the new Super Duke GT..?)
Probably, this is the best bike review filming ever. I enjoyed it a lot but clean rear suspension would be nicer to watch. This BMW is too good to be seen dirty. Thank you.
Great review. The little black piggy gave me a chuckle.
I've got this bike now... fully agree with your review. And... I love this machine!
Excellent job with this review. That why you are in my subscriber list No1.
Great review. This is what i look for in a review, experts breaking down the bike. Thank you
If you think what you've experienced is wet - you should come to England. Nice review!
+Tom Riley I would love to come to England! One of these days!
Nicely produced and edited content!
more of these revzilla. been watching gear reviews for years but this is on another level!
I would really LOVE your review of a Triumph Rocket III Roadster! Your reviews are very superb, so as the store :-)
Why do most OEMs get it wrong ?!
It's way easier to read(more like glance) an analog Tach and a Digital Speedo than the setup on this BMW.
JIGA BACHI your right. Go into consulting👍🏽
its all about marketing.
this is a sport/TOURING bike.
and it seems that BMW wants to accent the touring part of it.
and on a touring bike, the speedometer is more important for the rider, since he will almost never redline his/her bike
but on most superbikes, its the other way around
thats just a personal guessing of course, not a rock solid fact ;)
Karam Levi 👍😂😂😂
Thats why people by the sat nav. Massive speedo. Revs are irrelevant on a boxer.
JIGA BACHI you can change it the display has 4 different modes to choose from.
I'm 70 and its the most all around great handling and comfortable bike I ever owned and I have owned many BMWS.. A bit of Whining about BS. I bought a slightly larger windscreen and its perfect in cold weather and rain. He didn't mention this fairing handles strong winds excellent!
Nice review - helped me a lot. It's worth noting that Gear Shift Assist Pro does nothing if you use the clutch. The mechanism works up and down the gearbox flawlessly and smoothly without the clutch as long as the throttle is kept shut on the down shifts and good acceleration - plenty of throttle - on the up shifts. If you're on a light throttle you need to use the clutch, otherwise it's messy. Get in in first for tight corners and junctions and enjoy the smooth acceleration all the way up the box.
I can't wait for you to do a video on BMW's all new G310R as I look forward to a detailed, honest review on it. :)
My daily rider is '97 BMW R1100RS. It is an awesome bike, very stable and with a lot of torque. You can carry very heavy luggage on the highway and the bike still handles like a dream. I am still impressed on how well that old bike runs. I am a total boxer engine fan, it has a great feel and character. The new boxer engine has come a long way, and I hope that one day I can buy this one. I am sure that they new front suspension is great, but you forgot to point out that the RS doesn't have the telelever suspension. That is one feature that I enjoy a lot on the older version. Not having front brake dive inspires a lot of confidence and it is very comfortable for passengers. I think that the older RS didn't include the luggage as well. Lastly, the older RS also has that slightly leaned forward position, and there is a lot of mixed opinions as many people prefer a more straight forward position for the touring part. Personally I think is part of the sport side of the design and I am glad they kept it until today. Thanks for the detailed review!
Why don't you go test ride and see how you like the new version sir!
Much respect to you older boxer riders! I hv the 2017 RS lupin blue and love it
I've been a big fan of the R1200R and RnineT for a few years now, though this one's recently stolen my affections. I'm not buying unfortunately, but man do I like this bike! Second time watching this review. :-] I'd have to go with the blue/white paint, and of course an Akrapović!
Ive got one but still waiting for the Akrapovic. Almost went for the RNT but I ended up with the RS as I felt it provided the best of both worlds in terms of styling and practicallity.
Great review and I'm so pleased it's not just me that noticed the "heavy" feel at lower speeds, needing opposite input in tight turns! I have had a fleet of boxers, this one breaks the mold completely..I can't wait until Spring to get out on some longer rides..One slight criticism of your review and that's the demographic, which seems to stop at 50! I'm 62, been riding since 16. Trust me my young friend, though 50 may seem a far off spec across the ocean right now, your time will come sooner than you think.. Oh and my other bike is a Ducati 1000 DS supersport, and I'm not too old for that yet! ride safe folks...
Fantastic review. I own a 1998 VFR 800 with 60K on the clock that I adore, but in about 40,000 miles (give/take two years) I'll be looking for something new and this looks about perfect.
+thepassionofthegoose Nice! I just sold my 1999 VFR 800 this past spring. Still one of my favorite bikes!
+thepassionofthegoose Before you do I'd recomend the Kawasaki Z1000SX. Similar type of bike but with 140 bhp on tap it's more exciting.
Can you do a review of the BMW R 1200 GS
+Kevin Lynch So many bikes, so little time! The GS would definitely be a fun bike to review. -DrewZilla
+Kevin Lynch Your Question Mark button is broken. You may want to have that repaired! :)
Thanks for the review, Spurgeon. I was initially more excited for this bike's arrival, but your video (and article) have given me pause. I, too, dislike the fact that BMW provides superfluous accessories at the expense of panniers given the bike's intended functionality. While the RS is a personality match for me, I am skeptical as to whether or not it has a place in my garage.
+Sir Revzalot I'd say you should take it for a test ride. Even if you don't end up buying it, it's a hell of a machine and you won't regret at least taking it for a spin. What are you currently riding?
+Spurgeon Dunbar Thanks for the reply, dude. I'm riding a 2014 Street Triple R, and I love it. After sitting on the R 1200 RS, I recognize it has more relaxed ergos than my current ride. It's an impressive machine that gets me excited (Odd for a BMW, right?). Do you think the RS is a good next step?
+Sir Revzalot the R 1200 RS will be more relaxed than the your current ride. I love the Street Triple for what it is, a sport bike with handlebars instead of clip-ons. It spins up fast and frantic and allows for an aggressive ride. The RS is more refined. The Street Triple is a wild-eyed teenager in comparison.
I'd say your next step is to test ride the RS and see if it meets your needs. What are you looking to tackle? Longer rides? Additional comfort? Available luggage? If so, you might prefer the RS. However, if you just like burning up backroads on the weekends you might find it better to stick with the Street Triple.
We are lucky to live in a day and age where it is hard to find a "bad" motorcycle. It's all about finding the right motorcycle to meet our needs and budget. I wish you luck!
Thanks for your reply, Spurgeon. I am looking for a more touring-capable bike, so the R 1200 RS is definitely in the equation. There are other bikes that perform the touring function better for the price, however. This bike will have to fit like a glove to override my hesitation. Thank you for your time, dude.
one of the best reviews....no i am lying , its the best one....thanks a lot dude. greets from bmw country gemany
I don't like the colour options. Topcase is too small for most tourers too. The 49 litre topcase they offer the RT should have the same fittings so the rider can choose which to attach
Edit....I stand corrected, they have done that daft asymmetric light thing again.
Great review Spurg. Any chance you guys could review some budget bikes? Interested in a review of the CB500X for selfish reasons.
+Grant85kg We are working hard with the OEMs to start tackling as many bikes as possible including a variety of price points and styles. As we continue to develop we hope to bring you even more reviews in 2016. Thanks for the feedback!
Well done team! Good job
Saludos Desde España
Outstanding review! I'm with Spurgeon here as far as the boxer. Needs crash protection. Crash bars look fine on a GS but man, they'd look fugly on a sport bike. Also adds a good bit of weight to a bike they tried to keep light. Probably not a bike I'd be interested in but a helluva review for the folks looking to buy one. Now I have a request! Please oh please do a review on the KTM 1290 Super Adventure!! Thanks in advance. ;-)
+Greg got away If you can get KTM to send one over I'd ride that bike all day long!
Greg got away yes, ugly but for touring in a playful way the engine guard, with the low light add ones make it a balanced and tough looking machine with the bags on it. Sorta MadMax like in all grey. I got ultra long pro commutes (which I created) so love the safety, strength, and full package option and that makes it look awesome. That said Aprilia makes a super pretty 1100 v4 factory which I would really appreciate for a gorgeous day play sex toy. Ahahaha😚
Veri nice review, this is the kind of stuff I want to hear when I watch reviews.
I don't want to be sold before the review stars. Fair and honest stuff
Great work. Thanks
That sound... One of the best together with the Triumph Thruxton, Speed Triple and Ducati Panigale. Amazing bike, I only don't like the front...
I'm considering a 2018 version of this bike that was dropped but brought back to OE by a BMW service outlet. Evidently the valve cover cracked by the valves themselves were not damaged. I'd love some feedback about this from folks who know the bike.
I like the concept of the bike. I'm almost 60, and looking for my first bike, and I'm looking for a long distance commuter/sport tourer. I agree with Spurg's assesment that the bike should come, as standard, with luggage. I also agree with him that some sort of a riser for the bars should be available, but I suspect that Helibars will be along shortly with something, if they don't already have it. Maybe Alt-Rider will come out with some crash bars, too, if they haven't already.
But, here's my biggest complaint. At just a hair over $18K, with no luggage, a small windscreen, and an underwhelming display, around here, in the Seattle area, I can get a two to three year old K1600GT, with less than 10,000 miles (in some cases, less than 4,000 miles, for $18K. Okay, it's not a new bike, and I realize the demographics for BMW riders probably demands a 'new' bike, but for me, given that much money to spend on a bike, I certainly would be willing to purchase a gently used motorcycle like the K1600GT or GTL over the R1200RS.
BMW does make an engine protection bar for the bike, as well as adjustable foot pegs and a host of other products. But, optioned with luggage, engine protection, windscreen, etc., the bike tops out at over $22K. I could build a very nice F800GT for less than $16K with more storage space!
Still, I wouldn't complain too much if one found it's way into my parking spot. :)
+Gary C I understand your used argument. Almost all of the motorcycles I have ever owned have had someone else's miles on them first. There is nothing wrong with that. When you start pricing out the bikes with real world numbers there are a lot of options to choose from. Be careful with some of those early K1600GTs, they had some known bugs with them. An F800GT would be a great consideration. I would think you could probably find one of those used for a great price.
You have a lot of great options out there, Gary. Congrats on getting into the sport. Let us know if there is anything we can do for you, aside from being able to get one of these into your parking spot!
Spurgeon, I can get a low mileage used F800GT, under 4,000 miles. They jacked the price $1,000 for the holidays to give me 10% off, but still in all, it wouldn't be a bad bike.
www.peninsulamotorcyclestore.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=338470&pov=4485560
My problem, right now anyway, is lack of funds, and my credit rating took a dive due to being out of work for seven months.
I'd need to get a set of bags for it, but I'm sure it would be a good commuter bike, and occasional weekend tourer.
YOu know you want one! Follow your heart!
Exellent review !!!!!! Best regards from the Harz Mountains Germany
Well done review. Given the update with the R1250RS and its new ShiftCam engine, any chance you can do an update on the new versions. I have the R1250RS and don't think thee is wide knowledge of the incredible performance and electronics of this new version.
Hi, I'm looking to test one myself to buy, so thanks for the heads up on good and bad points
I think the standard r1200gs is a better value, about the same price,wieght,same engine, will sport tour no problem. ..biggest difference is you can spoon on some knobbies and go off road too! Revzilla has the best reviews and project prices!
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Yes if value is what you are looking for then the GS is hard to beat in its all round capability. But will you really take your GS off road? The RS looks nicer , is lighter and has almost the all round abilities of a GS (minus off road). The RS is probably better on a freeway too.
Great review, if you are thinking of buying one of these, remember, they weigh a ton!
I see - should have watched the whole video first .. Kudos - really good review!!
Can't wait for the 2019 1250RS!
Very impressive production values. Interesting how you're able to panic cross the bike yes it's driving down the road. I would've liked to have the on-screen narrator shut up for a while just so that we could hear the note of the bikes engine and exhaust.
sweet review. I've been looking and riding a bunch of BMWs. the rs is definitely a nice bike. what blows my mind is that BMW (rumor is) that '16 is the last year of the Kbike. However, it really does seem like BMW is making great success with the boxer/suspension platform. I'm hard pressed to make up my mind between the 4 boxers.
Quality journalism
Awesome review ... Crisp n clear..
one important thing you missed - there are 4 different seats for the rs and r ..I have an R and the seat was too low for my 6ft...so while i had it reupholstered, there are 3 more higher versions available (pricey though) ,as mine came with the lowest ..and it makes fpr a very uncomfortable seat to peg relationship. Im not sure if the RS has a different seat to peg relationship as std ?
Lovely bike good film, sensible craic.
All that and Virginia.. I wish.
From a wet, flooded part of the UK.!
Damn..
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Great review as always guys! Out of curiosity, what are you using to capture your audio while riding? Very clean audio, so I know you're not using a Sena back pac. Keep up the great work team zilla!
Great Review! Keep them coming!
Awesome review, you guys do it right!
You did a well detailed vidéo...I went with the FJR1300 2016...but my first pick was the BMW and now am starting to regret because of the heavyness of it...
Great video for the most part, but this made it really hard for me to want to subscribe and come back for more:
If you care to read thoughts as I humbly accept I may be the only one here...
Background music too loud when talking.
Noisy river as background noise when talking.
Over excited, almost shouting into the helmet microphone makes it hard to sustain interest. Get better wind protection or something to help reduce the need to raise voice.
Introduce a few more natural pauses. Seems like all dialog has nothing but commas in it.... 09:55 for example... Pause... dont replace a pause with... "Now".
I'm not good at video editing (my videos are proof of that), but some feedback.
fantastic review. keep up the good work. the production quality is just superb
Bar risers and luggage combined with crash protectors and you might as well get the 1200GS. Am I far off? Nice bike though.
Awsome review as always! keep up the good work. I have some dirt bikes, a Husky and of course 300 Ktm. SP (Stillwell performance) has always helped me with after market stuff, shocks etc. In that regard, one of the first things dirt-bikers talk about is sag. Is sag considered after the purchase of a street bike? Wood be a fun video. Oh, and my sister appreciates her sun-glasses back. She approves of the new ones as well:), AND as always, shiny side up.
With electronic suspension like on this BMW, sag isn't an issue. The bike is setting everything up for you.
On other bikes it's often over looked but since the suspension is no where near as soft as dirt bikes, unless you're in the extremes when it comes to weight, it's usually somewhere close.
It would be great to see some Zilla setup videos but I'm not sure what would be in it for them.
MC Garage with the 'On Two Wheels' guys has a lot of cool stuff like that.
+Gabriel Thompson I need to meet your sister. It sounds like we'd get along quite well.
How's the reliability? Specifically final drive failures?? Shopping for one now but this would be my first euro bike...
Great objective straight to the point honest review. Thanks.
Truly a great review. I was looking at the RS and decided on the R. Both wonderful bikes.
Beautifully made video. Thanks
Very nice review! Somehow this bike look similar to Kawasaki's Ninja 650.
As always fantastic review. can you please do one on the yamaha r3 I just got my bike licence and that's the bike I am thinking about getting.
+b007644 And.....done: www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2015-yamaha-yzf-r3-first-ride Hope this helps! -DrewZilla
This is a little bit random, but did you have any trouble getting the Sena to attach to the Schuberth S2? I was considering getting one (the Sena) but I have heard that there is some trouble when trying to get it attached and still being able to use the internal sun visor. It looks pretty good on yours though.
+Milta The more random the question the better! We had no issues. As long as you mount the unit itself far enough back on the shell it shouldn't interfere with the visor dropdown mechanism. Thanks for watching!
Interesting proposition... a lighter sports tourer compared to the usual behemoth touring platforms now available from this Bavarian stable...
Great and fun review! very nice bike indeed.
Although i disagree with calling the concours(gtr1400) or vfr800 its competition, the real competition would sooner be the suzuki gsx-s1000f and the kawasaki ninja1000 (z1000sx).
Surgeon, you have done just a little too good a job on this bike. I just bought it base in no small part in your wonderfully done review and not only that I've kept the guys at Reveille busy finding the go to accessories and gear to go along with this new
beemer. If you were getting a commission on all this "results' you could probably buy yourself one as well. ahahahahah'
give my best to Anthony , love you guys and I agree with all the accolades about your approach to this way of review. Love the way you guys work in ideal gear choices for the elements you phase as you review these new bikes in all kinds of weather.
I agree the brakes take a little getting used to. hahahah
Ray, thank you so much for the kind words. It's great to hear when people find value in what we are doing. I hope you're enjoying the bike. Please send a private email to CS@RevZilla.com letting me know what email address your RevZilla account information is under.
Gorgeous scenery, too..................................
Great critique and vidéo, thx!