Which Palm Router do I buy?
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- I've decided its time to try a cordless Palm router, its hard enough to choose between the various manufacturers when its a corded tool but add batteries into the equation and it starts to get a bit head scratching.
What else do they make?
What is their 'system' like?
What else might I want from them?
What else does the battery on the router fit?
etc, etc, etc.
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Same here with Makita! Shop, yard, lighting, home etc. I"ve never been disappointed. Very durable, excellent design, warranty and customer service. Corded tools strictly Festool. Both for function and resale. This is primarily driven by their sanders, Domino and track saws. I do not however use their battery powered products. Too many $$. One exception is the Lamello Z Peta joiner. Costly but a game changer for cabinet joinery.
Love your videos. Thanks!
Thanks Glen.
I went makita as that was the battery platform I already used, the palm router is a decent product imo and with it’s different bases it tends to be my preferred go to router. When I do jobs away from the workshop they come into their own and with just one charger & battery type it can’t be more straight forward. Cheers Steve
Thanks Steve. 👍
I have invested in the Milwaukee system and am very happy. I am pleased with the small router, simple to set up and very comfortable to use. I have 4 of their drills, 3 saws, a grinder, a blower, and 2 vacuums.
Thanks Al. 👍
Bosch Home and Garden Cordless Trim Router AdvancedTrimRouter 18V-8 (Without Battery, 18 Volt System, Brushless Motor, in Carton Packaging)
Excellent channel btw! I'm cordless router heavy as I hate changing out router bits and have 4 Makitas, 2 Milwaukees and 2 Dewalts. It depends what you'd be using it for but my thoughts are -
Dewalt is the best all rounder. If you're going to be using it for grooving and rebating as well as profiling this is the only router to buy - the Makita and Milwaukee are just not up to it. I use one of my Dewalts as my site router and can pop it in and out the workbench in seconds, and the height adjustment system is perfect for under table operation. It can do 75% of the work that a 1/2 inch can do. If it's going to be used mainly for small profiling absolutely do not go Dewalt. As you mentioned it's a bit of a lump. Add a battery on top and it's also very tall and awkward in comparison to all other brands of cordless router.
I love(d) my Makitas as it was the first of the tower-style router to go cordless and the first that I bought on its release. Used them for years and apart from being a bit underpowered I was really happy with them. That was until I tried a cordless router with a brake. Ever since then I relegated the Makitas to small pilot bit profililing. Having no brake is a deal breaker imo.
The Milwaukee sits in the middle between the others in size and performance. The macro and micro adjustments are excellent. If you didn't need the extra power that the Dewalt has I think the Milwaukee would be the way to go.
The Trend and Hikoki cordless routers look very similar to the Makita in size. If they have a brake they could be an option.
Makita have released a 40V cordless router but like the Dewalt it looks very tall!
Interested to see who you end up going with.
Best of luck!
Hi Bertie, excellent thank you. You've certainly got a few to compare 8?? I don't feel so bad now. 👍👍
@@GTWoodshop They can become quite an addiction. 😀 The Trend package (two bases, two batteries) looks cracking value at under 200 quid, and their new range of cordless tools looks decent. I've been resisiting buying the Trend so far but if I take the plunge soon I'll let you know.
Kepp up the good work!
@@bertie4127 Hmmm, had already dismissed Trend, may need to reconsider. 😁😁👍👍
@@GTWoodshop Happy to post you out one of each router if you want a try of them. Give me a shout if so. Cheers!
Consider adding the Makita DRT50 to your list. If you include gardening and mechanics tools, I can't imagine a broader range of 18v tools available in Europe.
I've found it a reliable and capable machine. I bought it for classic trim routing tasks, but the size/weight and lack of a cable has me using it for a few additional tasks I'd have previously got my Festool OF 1400 out for. I use the 8mm collet so router bits can be shared with both machines. The guide rails also work with Festool tracks.
I bought the kit with the plunge base but no batteries. My only other Makita tool; an impact wrench, came with two 4Ah batteries. I'm sure you've already considered this, but the battery will add weight and change the balance of the tool. After a few months I ended up getting two 2Ah batteries, which I prefer due to their lower weight.
Good luck.
Hi Greg, thank you. I think this Router just made it onto the short list, 'works with Festool Rails'??? Now thats interesting. 👍
The dewalt will be similar to the one you have. I have four of the milwaukee palm routers; they're great, but as with all battery operated palm routers, top heavy with a battery.
Hi NW, thanks for the info! 👍
Rig up an overhead cable system that will move along with you on a track or soft springs. The cable stays above the router and out of your way.
I’ve fitted Neutrik PowerCon connectors to many of my corded power tools. One overhead cable and dust hose Velcro strapped together. The only real downside is that for newer tools, the warranty is probably invalidated by cutting off the manufacturer’s cable.
O Graham, I do so get this. I tried a platform of battery powered tools. Of these tools that once apon a time were deep blue, I had and have great use from. Now adays they are a greenie yellow. I had a driver that was out of true, batteries that failed within weeks and I am left with one drill. Lots of batteries as I purchased extras.
So yes it is hard to get a system. The different Voltages, chargers even in one manufacturers range.
Obviously the dewalt comes from long standing history, back to companies like Elu. Yes I love my Dewalt, but wonder what it would be like with a battery added. From watching another I understand Milwaukee are still made in house in the US by the same old company.
I am so glade you have asked this question.
I have just seen that Hikoki (Hitachi) make one that uses the same battery platform as my 1st fix nailer. There is another spanner in the works. I recall Hitachi having a very good name in routers. For me it's not just the router it's the bushings for dovetail jigs, the extras.
Now sporting about 10 routers, not one battery powered. ELU, CMT, 2 x Ryobi, Festool, Axminster, Dewalt, and others. So I am watching your progress.
Getting less chargers and batteries would be nice!
Hi Barry, absolutely, its the whole schbang to take into account. Still no firm decision made, may even do an update prior to buying. Watch this space.....👍👍
I love my dewalt palm routers both cord and cordless
They are lovely. 😉
I started out with battery tools before I had a workshop with mains power. I went with Ryobi because when I started out, they had the widest range of battery powered tools (available in Australia). Ryobi, Milwaulkee and AEG are all made by the same company, but the batteries are not interchangeable (AFIK). That's a shame! Recent purchases are the Ryobi brad nailer and palm router, no regrets on either. I have stuck to the one battery system because I can charge the batteries from mains (via solar panels), from a vehicle, and from a solar panel out at the farm. If you don't abuse your tools, I think you will get many years use out of Ryobi tools. If you are working on construction sites regularly, I think Milwaukee are more appropriate. I have no AEG battery tools, but I recently bought an AEG mains powered sander, the dust extraction is excellent, and it has no vibration. I have many DeWalt mains powered tools, very satisfied with all. Same with Makita. Using multiple battery systems is costly in time, space and money. I'll stick to what I started with as long as it meets my needs.
Hi Barry, good to know thank you. 👍
good evening had a dewalt router with multi base and found it ok....i know have a makita cordless palm router i love it have all the bases tilt plunge etc. just made a mobile router table could not praise it any more
Hi Anthony, thank you, the Makita is certainly getting some votes. 👍
Here it is: Bosch AdvancedTrimRouter 18V-8 😂. I have 2 Bosch GKF 12V-8 coupled with the 6A battery and works great for chamfering and rounding up to 6mm.
In terms of platform, I have the base on Bosch 12V (3 drills, 2 routers, planer, multi-cutter, a.o.). I completed with more power on 18V (jigsaw, circular saw with rail and strong lights for outside) and Makita, what was missing from Bosch range (pin nailer, fans, blower, a.o.).
Thanks buddy, appreciate it. 👍👍
@@GTWoodshop One more thing, I remember a "shop talk" from Manor Wood about Bosch vs. Makita palm routers...
I’ve been using DeWalt battery tools expressly for their ecosystem … one battery fits all their tools … buying into another, like Milwaukee, would to the clutter (different batteries, chargers, etc) … and their price point is not too bad … performance is fine for my simple needs … good luck, G! keep us posted …
Thanks Mariano. 👍
My brother, just face it! Another excuse for a ne w toy!! I Love it!
Garviel, you are right that it will be a new,,,,,,, Tool! 👍
Can't help with commenting on the likes of Dewalt and Milwaukee, as I'm all 18V/40V Makita, but if you're in no hurry, it maybe worth you waiting to see what the new 40V XGT Makita Palm Router/Trimmer has to offer.
Hi Chaz, thanks for the heads up. 👍
I have Milwaukee’s 12V tool system, but my 18V tools are Makita’s. The reason for this, was at the time of purchase for my 18V systems, Milwaukee did not have a palm router. I do like both systems, but I have found the Makita batteries last forever. All of my 18V batteries are over 4 years old, but charge and run like they’re brand new. I’ve had 1st, 2nd, & 3rd generation batteries from the Milwaukee 12V line. I was not impressed with the service life of the 1st & 2nd generation of Milwaukee’s 12V line, but this latest version is much improved. We’ll see if they last. If Milwaukee’s 18V line is based on the latest version of the 12V batteries, they should be a good battery. I’ve had many generations of the Dewalt, but none of the latest lithium’s. I’m sure they will be a good line, but you won’t have nearly the selection of tools as with Milwaukee and Makita.
Hi James, good to know mate thank you. 👍
I have a makita. purely because i have other cordless tools in their range. can feel a little heavy after a while but it is the most used router i have. purchased a couple of extra bases to attach jigs a little easier and they swop out really quickly
Thanks Paul, good to know. 👍
What ever cordless you go with stick with it and the components of that system. Dewalt/Porter Cable /Black and Decker all the same, Milwaukee/Ridgid/Ryobi all the same. Festool I own many tools from Festool, but will not buy the cordless. Bosch does make a great product , but only if manufactured in Germany. I own tools from each brand named manufacture but not all there are some awesome tools from Euro market that I can not get my hands on, even some tools that are no longer produced that are in working order. For cordless I went Milwaukee M18 for the warranty as so far Milwaukee has backed ever one of the Cordless tools that has had an issue and broke down. Plus I borrowed an electricians Milwaukee cordless tools and he is very abusive with his tools and those 3 tools took every thing I could throw at them.
HI Jwar, thanks for the info, good to know. 👍
I have the battery powered DeWalt and agree that it is heavy and has a larger barrel grip. That said, be aware that nearly all battery routers will add a degree of a “top heavy” feeling too. So I suggest getting you hands on them before you buy. You mentioned DeWalt and Milwaukee are sort of on your short list and I’ve read other comments here adding Makita. All three have excellent reputations here in the US. You’re right… you aren’t buying just a router, you’re buying into an ecosystem.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t you have the accessories like plunge and fixed bases for the DeWalt? If so, that would tip the scales in that direction for me.
This could be a multiple bourbon decision…….
Hi Dan, thanks, good points. The plunge base for the Dewalt is in the drawer, rarely need it as I have the Festool 1010, but its there if I want it. 👍 P.S. Spanish Brandy. 👍👍
i got the bosch gkf12v about £140 without battery just use mine for chamfers and round overs not good for dados and such and it has a long base on it
Thanks Jim. 👍
@@GTWoodshop it's quiet and light so nice no dust collection not bothered by that
Howdy for Australia. There's an excellent video from RUclips channel "Tools & Stuff" titled "18v Router Comparison | Which is better? Makita, Milwaukee, DeWALT or HiKOKI (Metabo HPT)" dated 28 May 2021. Compares DeWalt, Makita, HiKOKI and Milwauukee. Worth a look. Cheers.
Thanks BOC, I haven't seen that one. 👍
I have the Dewalt palm router battery powered as I have the full range of their battery tools,
I’m happy with it only had it a few weeks also it has variable speed and come with a plunge and fixed base, it also has the guide rails and centring pin for alignment.
If you have a Anglia tool centre near you pop along and have a feel with and without the battery fitted to the router.
Hi Karl, thank you. unfortunately I'm quite a ways from the world, nearly in 'Lands End'!!!