The Failure of the 1986 Bears Super-Team
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2024
- Delve into the unraveling of the 1986 Bears Super-Team's remarkable 14-2 season as we dissect their heartbreaking playoff defeat.
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Charles Martin. His cheap shot was the reason the Bears did not repeat. Even without Buddy Ryan the Bears would have one another Super Bowl with Jim McMahon as the QB.
And then Ditka went with Doug Flutie...when he wasn't ready.
Taste of their own medicine lol- they knocked out other teams QB?
Imagine if McMahon didn't lacerate his kidney in '84 and they had him for those playoffs they might've been able to beat the 49ers in the NFC title game.
@@AmirKhan-yv8jm There's a difference between picking someone up and slamming them after a play than getting pummeled because your Oline isn't blocking guys.
and McMahon ironically gets another ring backing up Favre in Green Bay
Buddy Ryan created the 46 defense so it ceased to exist in Chicago after Buddy left to coach the Philadelphia Eagles immediately after the Bears won Super Bowl XX! The Defense wasn't the same without Buddy Ryan coaching it! Offensively, McMahon's constant injuries cost the Bears 1, probably 2 additional Super Bowls! That's it! Buddy's departure and McMahon's injuries are why they didn't repeat!
You didn't watch the '86 season if you think their defense wasn't as good.
@@teeemm9456 I watched every single game. They were _not_ as good. Statistically they were better in certain categories, but their overwhelming intimidation, the _fear and confusion_ . . . that was gone.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 The object of the defense isn't to cause fear and confusion, it's prevent the other team from scoring. Fear and confusion are just tools in the full arsenal. The bears won multiple games because they held teams under 10 points, and needed to because of the QB issues.
@@teeemm9456 All of those are true, but they're all irrelevant to the point that they were _not_ as good in 86 as they were in 85. Out of 19 games that season, they held opponents to 10 or less in 14 games, and they were even better in the playoffs. In 86, just by their performance in the Div Playoff against Washington alone . . . they were not as good. I'm from Chicago and watched every game from 75 to 94. Their defense wasn't as good in 86 as it was in 85 or 84.
@@teeemm9456 Buddy Ryan never measured defensive success by how little the offense scored. His measuring stick was yards allowed and takeaways. His feeling was that a defense didn't have control of all scoring if the offense either turned the ball over or didn't move the ball enough to keep the defense in advantageous field position. A great example of that is the first 3 points NE scored in the Super Bowl . . . Payton fumbled and NE got the ball at around the Bears 20 yard line.
Redskins knocked us out the next year too and then Wilbur Marshall joined them where he would eventually get a 2nd ring.
I recall reading somewhere that Marshall was the best player on Washington in 1991 in the opinion of the guy who coordinated the defense
Great video. Im sure your channel will blow up soon
Well Joe Gibbs is probably the best coach in NFL history. He was even better in the playoffs with a .708 win percentage.
Certainly one of the handful of best.
If Washington’s titles were closer together, he’d probably be acknowledged more.
@@fortynights1513he won without avHOF QB!
@@fortynights1513 Four Super Bowl appearances and three wins in 10 years, how much closer do they need to be?
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003They get overshadowed by the Niners who had four in nine I guess.
Also the fact that they had multiple quarterbacks probably leads to them not being thought of as a dynasty by some.
No knock on their team but that’s the way it is.
The players on that team were rankled by the acquisition of Doug Flutie around midseason and the preferential treatment he got from Mike Ditka. Flutie was a guest at Ditka's on Thanksgiving and despite being an NFL rookie he was tabbed to start the playoff game against Washington despite having started only 1 NFL game prior to it. I like Flutie he'll give you his all but it wasn't the right situation for him.
By one stat I calculated, the 1986 Bears played the best regular season that year.
Another stat I calculated also found them to be the single worst passing team that season.
McMahon didn’t play that well, and his backups also don’t appear to have played that great in general.
And that’s interesting that Flutie got the treatment he did.
Exactly right.
@@fortynights1513McMahon partially tore a rotator-cuff against Cleveland in game 1 that year and kept playing through pain until Charles Martin obliterated the shoulder completely in wk12.
Ditka called 31 pass plays for Flutie. Payton ran 14 times. Joe Gibbs ran George Rogers 28 times for 72 yards. Ditka was out coached.
Those Bears Teams Should Had Won 3 Super Bowls.
agreed, I can't make it through the full video robot voice.
They never would’ve beat the Giants in 86.
@@JJG86 Right???? Like 0% chance to beat the team they skunked in the playoffs the year before that was 90%+ the same starters....
@@teeemm9456 The Giants were the best team in 1986 by a big margin. They destroyed teams in the playoffs that year. The Bears couldn’t even beat the Redskins, the same Redskins, that the Giants shut out. Learn your history loser, you’re embarrassing yourself.
@@teeemm9456 The Giants were the best team in 1986 by a big margin. They destroyed the teams they played in the playoffs. The Bears couldn’t even beat the Redskins, the same Redskins that the Giants shut out. The Giants would’ve had a great shot to repeating in 87 if not for the strike.
The 1986 Bears led the league in points allowed and yards allowed, and were in the top five in sacks and forced turnovers. It wasn't the D's fault. Payton rushed for 1331 yards and the Bears led the league in rushing offense. The issue was McMahon playing just six games.
They should have signed Jeff Kemp, Vince Evans or another descent veteran around the NFL.
I was so sad and heartbroken.....then even more the next year, 87.....I remember Walter sitting on the bench in the steam of his own breath after another loss to the Redskins.
I was a Marine stationed at Quantico in 1985, watching my Redskins go up 10-0 over the Bears. My roomie was from Chicago, so I didn't crow or rub it in, just sat there quietly. Then the Bears started coming back, and laid it on. Washington lost 45-10. My roomie wouldn't get outta my face, rubbed it in all the rest of that day and for weeks afterward as his Bear finished 15-1 and trounced New England in the Super Bowl. I told him to enjoy it while it lasted, because all his shit-talking was writing a helluva check he'd have to cover one day. Sure enough my Redskins knocked his Bears out of the playoffs at home not once, but twice, in '86 and '87, and of course won it all in '87. We've played them 19 times since 1985, we've won 14, they've won five. It's all his fault for what he did to me that day :)
One of top FIVE COACHES OF ALL TIME, Joe Gibbs, put together a plan for his team, The Washington Redskins, and they went into Chicago and taught the Bears a lesson.
Top coach. He won with three different QB's. No one has done that.
Didn't teach crap but that they could beat a QB that started his 2nd NFL game.
If Charles Martin doesn't suplex Jim McMahon off the turf well after the whistle the Bears repeat easily. At the peak of Ditkas Bears they were a top 5 offense with McMahon healthy.
Boomers: Young people today are so unruly
1:26 Boomers in their 30s.
They should have signed Albert Lewis veteran cornerback to fill void left by Leslie Frazier, Jeff Kemp great journeyman Qb with descent size 6 feet 200 lbs and strong arm.Jeff Kemp even Vince Evans would have beaten Redskins in playoffs.
I’m 5’o and am taller than Flutie who’s really 5’7 and 160 lbs
2011 Green Bay Packers next.
Ditka choosing to start Flutie in that game is still one of the dumbest decisions I've ever heard of.
Yeah; but the Redskins ran all over the Bears D.
@@flexiblestrategist9922 Not true. Flutie could barely move the ball at all. In addition to the interceptions he threw, he couldn't keep the Bears out of bad position. Finally, after the devastating Payton fumble when it was 14-13 Redskins, the dam broke, and from _that point on_ Washington dominated offensively. It was Flutie's 2nd _ever_ NFL start, and it was a playoff game. He hadn't even been in training camp. Just astounding.
@@SECRETARIATguy224 @SECRETARIATguy224 What's not true--that The Redskins ran all over the Bears?? They did. The Bears couldn't run on the Redskins and so they had to depend on Flutie's arm. That didn't work. The Bears coaches weren't counting on his to do so. This is why The Redskins outcoached them. Watch the game again. I'm not Redskins fan but I see what the outcome was. You should, too.
@@flexiblestrategist9922 You must have watched a different game, because the Bears were winning 13 to 7 until Redskins got their 2nd pick and were on the Bears ~30 in the 3rd quarter before taking the lead. Only for the bears to start at midfield after the kickoff and run the ball into the redzone before Payton fumbled. That's when the Defense started to give up.
I watched the same game you did and again:" The Redskins ran all over them. I@@teeemm9456
Ditka is overrated as a coach
One and done.
they would never have beaten the Giants that year anyway
Lol, you mean almost the same exact Giants team they snuffed in the playoffs the year before?
Shut the giants out 21-0 in the 85' NFC Divisional playoffs! No contest - could have easily done it again with a healthy Jim McMahon at QB!
@@uscgbmcmretired2490That game would've been at NYG that year. Bears didn't have the same attack-style defense. With Jim the game would've been a dogfight, but they wouldn't have blown them out like the year before.
@@uscgbmcmretired2490 would of could of should of. They didn’t. Giants won the superbowl.
@@teeemm9456 which you weren’t alive to see.