May be a bit late to the party, but kudos on a thorough review. Decided to buy the Black Diamond Guide 3-finger ‘Lobster claw’ glove. In part on the strength of this review. The BD 3-finger Guide glove doesn’t quite allow for as much dexterity, compared to the standard Guide glove. But the 3-finger Guide does mostly compensate for this by its improved protection against cold and moisture. Highly recommend trying the BD Guide and Guide 3-finger Guide gloves for yourselves. Durable, weatherproof and incredibly warm.
The liner comes out on the BD mainly for drying. Removable liners sometimes/not always get stuck to wet hands and twisted or pulled inside out a bit. I've read reviews that the BD's do that a bit but have not tried them myself. I've used the Marmot's extensively on a snowmobile in Alaska. Mostly easy trail riding. The Marmots are a great, durable glove, offer decent dexterity for a cold weather glove and warm except for in super cold weather...-35 etc. (I also have hand warmer grips and wind guards). I like the non-removable liner because I have to stop and take my hands in and out of the gloves a lot. Don't want to deal with a liner potentially coming out or getting twisted. If it gets to cold I throw thin liner inside and it helps but it seems clear the BD's are warmer. 1) Deciding factors...how warm do you want the glove? 2) Want a removable liner?
Great info, thanks for sharing!! (and I agree 100 percent about the convenience of not having a liner - I mostly use the marmots while snowmobiling for this fact, and that my hands haven't been cold enough to need anything warmer).
Thank you for sharing your advice and experience with the Marmot gloves. This is immensely helpful for people like me who don't get extremely cold temps to test out the gloves before buying them.
How "long" are your hands? Second measurement that BD considers. My palms are slightly smaller than yours - I fall right at the bottom end of size L. I've ordered size L and they fit too small for my liking, finger length is almost perfect, but all the insulation constricts my blood flow in fingers. I'm thinking about sizing up to an XL, but I'm afraid those would be too long in fingers. Any advice?
@@xhumeka Thanks for the info. Interesting... My hand length is 21cm and I wear both M and L in DB gloves. Might actually size up and go with XL. Otherwise happy with your purchase?
Almost two years later both have lasted great and I still use both frequently - hard to pick a winner because I find the Black Diamonds are warmer but the Marmot's are better for tasks that require a bit more dexterity. With the inner liner the black diamonds I find fit much tighter and for that reason they are harder to slip on and off, so I find myself grabbing the Marmots mostly unless it's very cold outside. Still, both great gloves and hard to choose one over the other!
thank you for this video man i appreciate it its nice to see someone else actually put in effort getting the best gear which one has more primaloft in it?
Thanks, glad you found it useful! The Black Diamonds have more primaloft in them. In temperatures approaching 0 Fahrenheit the Black Diamonds definitely keep my hands warmer!
None yet! I've been using the Marmots more than the Black Diamond simply because my hands haven't been cold enough to need the extra liner on the black diamonds. I just posted another snowmobiling video where i'm using the marmots, and they hold up to snowmobiling no problem - no seams breaking loose and no wear on the palm. So far I'm very happy with them!
@@xhumeka you said in the video that you got an XL from both companies? I'm looking at the guide and worried that I'm sized at a M when I usually wear an XL with other companies...
As December 27th, 2023 now that USA is cold, may you please complete your review. From France :)
May be a bit late to the party, but kudos on a thorough review.
Decided to buy the Black Diamond Guide 3-finger ‘Lobster claw’ glove. In part on the strength of this review. The BD 3-finger Guide glove doesn’t quite allow for as much dexterity, compared to the standard Guide glove. But the 3-finger Guide does mostly compensate for this by its improved protection against cold and moisture.
Highly recommend trying the BD Guide and Guide 3-finger Guide gloves for yourselves.
Durable, weatherproof and incredibly warm.
It's been 4 years, are you going to do a follow up?
Thanks for the reminder! Will post a follow-up when I have a chance. I still use both but favor the Marmot unless it's very very cold 🥶.
The liner comes out on the BD mainly for drying. Removable liners sometimes/not always get stuck to wet hands and twisted or pulled inside out a bit. I've read reviews that the BD's do that a bit but have not tried them myself. I've used the Marmot's extensively on a snowmobile in Alaska. Mostly easy trail riding. The Marmots are a great, durable glove, offer decent dexterity for a cold weather glove and warm except for in super cold weather...-35 etc. (I also have hand warmer grips and wind guards). I like the non-removable liner because I have to stop and take my hands in and out of the gloves a lot. Don't want to deal with a liner potentially coming out or getting twisted. If it gets to cold I throw thin liner inside and it helps but it seems clear the BD's are warmer. 1) Deciding factors...how warm do you want the glove? 2) Want a removable liner?
Great info, thanks for sharing!! (and I agree 100 percent about the convenience of not having a liner - I mostly use the marmots while snowmobiling for this fact, and that my hands haven't been cold enough to need anything warmer).
Thank you for sharing your advice and experience with the Marmot gloves. This is immensely helpful for people like me who don't get extremely cold temps to test out the gloves before buying them.
thinking about to buy the black diamond guide for my Snowmobile Alaska trip - how did they? My next choice would be a Burton.
Three years later they are holding up well and still very warm - highly recommended!
@@xhumeka Thanks a lot
How "long" are your hands? Second measurement that BD considers. My palms are slightly smaller than yours - I fall right at the bottom end of size L. I've ordered size L and they fit too small for my liking, finger length is almost perfect, but all the insulation constricts my blood flow in fingers. I'm thinking about sizing up to an XL, but I'm afraid those would be too long in fingers. Any advice?
My hand length is 8" (20.5 cm)
@@xhumeka Thanks for the info. Interesting... My hand length is 21cm and I wear both M and L in DB gloves. Might actually size up and go with XL. Otherwise happy with your purchase?
@@ermate11109 Yes, very happy. Both set of gloves have held up nicely and should last many more years to come I hope!
Great review, thanks
what is your final descision or suggestion you can give to us ? have you do any test yet ?
I haven't done as much testing as I'd like, but so far I prefer the Black Diamond Guide gloves, they are definitely warmer!
Can you tell us which were better?
Almost two years later both have lasted great and I still use both frequently - hard to pick a winner because I find the Black Diamonds are warmer but the Marmot's are better for tasks that require a bit more dexterity. With the inner liner the black diamonds I find fit much tighter and for that reason they are harder to slip on and off, so I find myself grabbing the Marmots mostly unless it's very cold outside. Still, both great gloves and hard to choose one over the other!
Maybe marmot must be size large, non Xlarge - they are some loose on the your hand?
a little loose but I like them that way!
Hey thanks for the Video. I'm 6ft 2inches. Trying to work out if I'd get the Large or XL in the Marmot glove. What do you think?
Sorry for late reply - I'd recommend the XL likely but it's best to measure hand size like shown in video.
Thanks for your sharing, is that BD warmer?
Yes, the Black Diamond is definitely warmer! Cheers!
thank you for this video man i appreciate it its nice to see someone else actually put in effort getting the best gear
which one has more primaloft in it?
Thanks, glad you found it useful! The Black Diamonds have more primaloft in them. In temperatures approaching 0 Fahrenheit the Black Diamonds definitely keep my hands warmer!
thanks for the reply been researching gloves like crazy and these 2 are definitely solid options
Any ware and tear on these gloves yet?
None yet! I've been using the Marmots more than the Black Diamond simply because my hands haven't been cold enough to need the extra liner on the black diamonds. I just posted another snowmobiling video where i'm using the marmots, and they hold up to snowmobiling no problem - no seams breaking loose and no wear on the palm. So far I'm very happy with them!
My Marmots lasted for years. Just replaced because I lost them
according to your diimmensions you should be having a size M . I am about same size as you are.Dont know which size to buy hmmm
hmmmm, i'm definitely glad I got size L - I think M would be too snug for my liking.
@@xhumeka you said in the video that you got an XL from both companies? I'm looking at the guide and worried that I'm sized at a M when I usually wear an XL with other companies...
@@markevanpowell2157 best to measure your hand as shown and go with that - they are expensive and you want to make sure they fit properly!
XL and your hand size is 9, you got the wrong size my friend!
I did?!? I'll have to rewatch this video to see where I went wrong, but both gloves fit my hands perfectly so...?
@@xhumeka I'm a size 9 also, which BD says is an M..You said you got the xl,are you sure?Do you think the M is to tight for a hand of 9"?Thanks.
@@toolsreviewsandmore5326 The BD on my hands already feels a big tight... there's no way I'd move to a smaller size for my hand-size!