6GHz Wi-Fi 6E Intel AX210 Unboxing, Installation, and Why You Should Care
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2020
- My name is David and I'm aSquirl! Today I'm unboxing and installing a brand new Wi-Fi card. It's Intel's AX210. The very first piece of hardware to hit the market capable of 6GHz Wi-Fi.
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I've seen that there's a newer intel AX411 card available. I'd recommend everyone check out that card!
theres no big difference between the ax210 and the ax411
Apparently on the amazon seller listing, you need something called CNVio2?
Tbh I wanted this card but playing it safe with the AX210
@@GabrielTobing you're right! If you're upgrading from an Intel 101, 201, 203, 211, then you can upgrade to a 411. They all use CNVio2 which is an Intel standard that moves some processing off the wifi chip and onto the CPU. Otherwise the AX210 is a safer bet. Another I don't think I say in the video is that many laptops have a whitelist in the bios that prevents upgrading wifi cards.
Hey Squirl! How much of a performance boost did your shiny new AX210 get cha?
Cheers from Sydney, Australia.
Can it use in desktop with pci-e card? Ax411
Thank you for the explanation as well as the link.
You're welcome, Ronan! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for all the advice, one of them very important, only you mentioned it.
Was really hoping to see you install it
Thanks for the feedback, Curt! I really wish I had done that too. Maybe later. In the meantime, here's a video from another RUclips channel showing how to install an m.2 card using adapters for computers that don't have an M.2 Key E slot. If your motherboard already has the correct slot, the installation will be the same but just without the adapter. ruclips.net/video/0QV0UoOmC-Q/видео.html
I've demoted my AX200 back to a 11yo PC in ASUS PCIE card adapter NGFF Key A+E. I got a newer. The AX210 worked as well for test bench from X58. X79, X99. X299 It's more about the chipset & CPU interconnect & OS. For example, the newer AX211 is a Key E CNVi CPU/Chipset interconnect not using USB. So even if it fits, may not work. I haven't used it in an old system yet. As for those others with M.2 NGFF mini PCI or Key E/ E+A, they adapt, some.
Brilliant video (:
would recommend to upgrade to 210 instead of 200? currently I'm still using intel 9560NGW
Would have been nice to actually see an installation in the laptop.
Installed mine today. Nice improvement over the intel 9560 wifi with the xaiomi x3600 router I got. 138 megabytes per second transfers over 2.4ghz. Basically maxes the gigabit ethernet on the router. Was 3$ more than the ax200 so I went for this one.
Nice, Philip! Definitely if you're already planning to upgrade, I'd definitely choose the ax210 over the ax200. The Xaiomi x3600 looks like a great, affordable router. The one explanation I could find for the dedicated AIoT antenna is that it provides a separate network for iot devices over 2.4 and 5ghz wifi. Can you corroborate that? I originally was guessing that it supported zigbee or zwave or Bluetooth somehow. .
@@asquirl3471 their iot works with their zigbee implementation. I disabled it. Using the english international firmware. Only bad thing i can say is that it lacks 2.5gbs ports as it maxes gigabit transfers. For the $, awesome device. Hopefully it gets openwrt soon.
@@asquirl3471 was 2 or 3$ more than the ax200, so I went for it. No 6ghz, but its fine. Plus 6ghz needs a different antenna.
Was that in a laptop or desktop?
@@Phil-D83 does 6 ghz need a different antenna on laptots too? Mine has the old IPX mfth4 cables/antennas on. So will it only support 2,4ghz/5ghz? I can't find any info on this on the internet. Can you give the source too? I really wanna read up on that.
I have the same thing, the card was supposed to be in the plastic case. It appears that yours had fallen out or wasn't placed inside
Hi dude!
I want to ask something about your Asus tuf a15. You had any wifi drop offs? Cuz about 60% of owners of this device has this problems as me. So this is why i want to buy ax200(no need to better one, i got bad router, just want to us wifi without problem) Afther upgrading it with new one you had problems?
The last one you need any additional anthena? I mean some people say that you need if your laptop doesn't support it.
Thanks beforehand
I have upgraded mine from AX201 to AX210, tbh speed wise it is pretty much same for me but it is using wifi 6 now, if in future i will upgrade my internet plan, my laptop will for sure have ability run faster internet
Good Video! I have this card... good for Windows but NO DRIVER for LINUX so, be prepared if you want one.
Huh, I didn't even think to test Linux support. Thanks for letting me know!
Support will be added with Linux Kernel 5.11 (curently in "release candidate" status)
Works on linux kernel 5.11 for me but make sure you downgrade linux-firmware to february 2021 if you're on arch because the latest (march 2021) linux-firmware release doesn't seem to work.
I have a problem with mine, i got my pc like 2 weeks ago and my wifi was running fine on my pc, 3 days ago whenever i play a game i lag alot and i went over to task manager and saw that i have like 0 kbps sent to my pc and 0 recieved into my pc but idk what the problem is
what is the benefit of having bluetooth 5.2 in my laptop in term of bluetooth headphones?
Hi good sir can i ask if this wifi board will work on my ASUS GL553VW? Thanks and nice video!
Hi,i have a lenovo ideapad s540 AMD ryzen 5. Im wanting to do the wifi 6e upgrade,please can you find me a card that will work with the laptop thankyou :)
no tests for speed/latency?
Does intel vpro work on amd cpu's? Or should i buy .nv model
Can this used in mobo Asus prime h510m ??
I wonder if the ax211 will work. It has different pin connectors.
as long as you got intel, it will. if you got amd processor, go ax210.
Hello Guy, When I plug in the wifi card AX210 into HP 840 G6 Laptop . The laptop cannot start. But the wifi card ax210 is normal. Do I need config in the BIOS setup.. Please help me.
HP often puts in place a bios whitelist for wifi cards that they know will work and be compliant. If it's a newer laptop, you may be able to fix the issue by updating your bios.
Otherwise, you may be able to find a tutorial for removing the whitelist from the bios or someone may have posted a bios for your model with the whitelist already removed.
I have a lenovo with a similar issue and was unable to resolve it. Best of luck! 😬
Does this support Linux?
Hello, do you know it this wlan card will increase the wifi signal on my laptop (from 2 to 3 bars)?
Knowing more about your current setup might be good, but in general, no it won't. In fact, 6ghz will penetrate walls less and have less range than 2.4ghz or 5ghz. Probably a range extender or access point like the Netgear EX3700 might be a better solution for you if your laptop keeps loosing connection. The EX3700 can have a cable run to it and it can be run in access point mode.
I'm confused don't you need a different antenna to actually utilize 6GHz frequency? Can someone answer this?
A router capable of delivering it. Basically at the moment there are very few routers which can deliver wifi6e and if you want one you will be paying a premium. It operates on 6ghz channels, above that of 5ghz and likely congestion free. The higher spectrum range also means it can't travel as far without being disrupted so you might be thinking you need higher dbi antenna to pick up a decent signal, or even something like a mesh system to ensure it's fired through the whole premises. If you bought an ax210 chipset you should be able to access wifi 6ghz channels with it but I highly doubt you are willing to pay the 600-1000 smackers for the router capable of delivering it. At the moment a wifi 6 router, WPA3 over 802.11ax is great. If you seriously need more speed than a 5ghz connection to that you should be hardwiring a 10gbit LAN. Wifi6e is just too young to be worth it atm. Another thing to consider is lots of wifi 6 routers are advertised as 160mhz bandwidth over 5ghz. This is not the same as wifi6e, which operates on specific 6ghz channels 160mhz wide. Whereas these routers use 2x 80mhz (5ghz) channels, in theory doubling the 80mhz throughput. In theory these 160mhz 5ghz channels should allow you to break 1gbit, providing ideal environmental factors are present. But likely real world performance wont be anywhere near. Hope this helped.
@@tensense5872 dude you seem like pro in this sphere. Could you help me in some problem? My laptop(tuf a15) got wifi issues so i found that i gotta buy new ax card to solve it. But my connection is not higher than 100up/down and i don't think im going to make it higher. So what do you think shall i go for ax200 or ax210 ? I got pretty bad router btw(still no need to upgrade). Bet it supports only 2.4ghz. I just wabt to fix my drop off problem when i play games in laptop without lan cable.
@@foreverprogaming2421 It's a complicated issue really, there could be several factors influencing your poor connection. The bad router you mentioned could be causing the issue or the laptop could have bad antenna or both. Furthermore there could be other issues affecting your connectivity such as environmental issues, router placement etc. The choice between ax200 and ax210 is fairly simple though, they both use the latest 802.11ax standard which is more secure and theoretically provides a better connection. The ax210 provides bluetooth 5.2 support so if you're planning on some new bluetooth headphones any time in the next couple of years it would be a good option. ax210 also supports wifi6e which would allow you to use 6ghz channel (hopefully eliminating lots of environmental factors influencing you connection and increasing connection speed) BUT you would have to buy a router which supported Wifi6E too, these cost upwards of $300 last time i checked. If you plan on upgrading your router to a Wifi6E one then go for ax210 or even ax211. But if you're happy with your headphones and dont want to spend >$300 on a router ax210 is a solid option upgrading simply to utilise 802.11ax is worth while. Finally I can only see a difference of about $20 between a ax200 and ax210 chip so spending a little more now might give you more options and upgrade paths later. :) hoped this helped.
Do you think these manufacturers just slapped on the antennas from their 2.4-5ghz onto the ax210's that they are selling? It'd be a huge bummer when I buy a wifi 6e router and the wifi adapter antennas don't support 6ghz at all. Don't wanna just waste $20-30.
I'm not sure. I won't be able to speak to accessories included with the ax210 that you're looking at. The antennas aren't built into the card itself. They're at the end of the two attached cables. But my guess is that 5ghz and 6ghz are so close together you won't see much issue either way. I installed the card in my laptop with the old antennas not specifically made for 6ghz. I found an old Cisco thread talking about the affect of using 5ghz antennas on a 2.4ghz system. The conclusion that I got from it is that it'll probably work, but no manufacturer will recommend it. community.cisco.com/t5/wireless/5ghz-antennas-on-2-4ghz-radio/td-p/1963107
If you're concerned, just wait a bit longer for a whole kit from a brand you trust and get that. Or wait for an actual 6e router to come out and keep watching reviews to see if anyone runs into antenna issues.
@@asquirl3471 What's interesting is if these 2.4Ghz antenna weren't ideal for 5Ghz, then 6E is even worse since it actually spans into 7Ghz. 6E covers 5.925 GHz to 7.125 GHz
@@EricS-uf9mv I figure any recent antenna will have been optimized for 5ghz. Then the difference between 5ghz and 7ghz will be less drastic than the information that I found on using 2.4ghz antennas for 5ghz. I still don't think it's that much of a concern unless there's better information out there.
@@EricS-uf9mv I figure any recent antenna will have been optimized for 5ghz. Then the difference between 5ghz and 7ghz will be less drastic than the information that I found on using 2.4ghz antennas for 5ghz. I still don't think it's that much of a concern unless there's better information out there.
Lol mine came in bubble wrap. Now I gotta instal it
I thought u was gone show us how to put it
For some reason the card is like .3 milimeters too broad for the m2 slot in my pc, big letdown. I'm too affraid to file it down
make a speedtest wey
Can I adapt this module to work over usb 3.0? I want to make my own short range internet and file transfer.
If you had an external gpu enclosure you could probably put one of these cards on a pci adapter into it like in the product link below. You would have to use a Thunderbolt cable since it carries a few pcie lanes. Not just usb 3.2 or usb Type C.
I don't see any straight Thunderbolt to m.2 enclosure products available for wifi. There are some for ssd's, but that is a different type of m.2.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08519ST43/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=asquirl-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08519ST43&linkId=11c6cb23da4375f09dc7bbfddab50e7c
@@asquirl3471 is there a pcie to usb 3.0 adapter?
No. There are no usb to pcie adapters. If you find a riser cable with the USB type A plugs, don't plug those into a normal USB port. They're not the same thing.
Only Thunderbolt provides the pcie protocol that is needed for one of these wireless cards.
What system are you trying to use? I'm guessing raspberry pi. If that's the case, you're out of luck unless you're comfortable with soldering. hackaday.com/2019/09/05/pcie-multiplier-expands-raspberry-pi-4-possibilities/
If you're using a small motherboard with an extra pcie slot, you can probably get a pcie Thunderbolt card. But you could also get the AX210 on a pcie card and skip a few steps.
If you're using a small motherboard where all your pcie slots are already used, you may be able to use one of the m.2 (key m) slots meant for an ssd. forum.level1techs.com/t/are-there-external-enclosures-for-usb-3-1-pci-e-devices/132017
@@asquirl3471 my pc only has pcie 1x 2.0(it being a first gen i7 computer), pci slot, and 1 pcie 16x(equipment is a niviadia 2gb ddr3 gpu)
@@debbiebernhardt5406 am I reading your response correctly? You have an empty pcie 1x slot above your gpu? Click on this link and buy this AX210 and pcie 1x adapter card for $40: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08519ST43/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=asquirl-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B08519ST43&linkId=11c6cb23da4375f09dc7bbfddab50e7c
Hello! is it better to upgrade to 210 instead of the 200?
If you're upgrading, you might as well get the AX210. I think you can find them for about the same price. I'm seeing that the BE200 might be coming out soon though with wifi 7 support!
Apparently you will not see the 6 ghz band on windows 10 devices
i have an asus z390-i motherboard. will i be able to swap out the integrated wifi card for this one?
Kos, thanks for watching! Sadly, no, the wifi on that motherboard can't be upgraded. The heatsink for the VRM is built into the integrated I/O shield. That would make it hard, but I also have found some images on the desktop version of the product page without the I/O shield that show a metal shield soldered over the wifi chip. The manual makes no mention of a user-upgradable M.2 key E slot.
rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z390-i-gaming-model/
@@asquirl3471 hey thanks for getting back to me. i went ahead and gave it a shot , to my surprise, it worked.
imgur.com/a/myarSn4
@@kosmicone1552 Wow who'd'a thunk it. There's a little slot hidden under there! Were there just thermal pads between the VRMs and heatsink?
@@asquirl3471 yeah there was 4 screws holding the heatsink(which was mostly hollow). it had a strip of thermal pads that made contact with the VRM's. and 2 screws holding the wifi card in it's shield. it was pretty easy. the only thing i had trouble with was stuffing all the cables back into the ncase m1.
imgur.com/a/J3nKplA
Will it work on legion y540? came with Intel 9560 and has 9th gen processors
Did you try it. I just got this card for my y540.
@@thegizzard0 Did it work for you? I also have a laptop with a 9560. I need to know!
@@ChiickenTM yessir!! It worked perfectly. No modifications needed. No white listing needed. It worked out of the box no problem!
@@thegizzard0 Thanks man! I'll go ahead and order mine as well. I've got a Razer Blade advanced so my only connection to the internet is through wifi and wanted to upgrade the card.
did you notice any improvements besides speed? such as ping and latency in gaming?
I have a newer Asus Expertbook P2, It comes from with a removable AC 9560 installed. But is it true that AX210 cannot replace an 9560 in laptop?
Interesting! Intel's CNVio is new to me. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNVi
Apparently some laptops that come with the AC 9560 can be upgraded, but others can't.
linustechtips.com/topic/1086207-has-anyone-successfully-replaced-an-intel%C2%AE-wireless-ac-9560-with-an-ax201/
Intel points out that you should ask the manufacturer if the wifi slot supports PCIe or only CNVio.
community.intel.com/t5/Wireless/Intel-Wi-Fi-6E-AX210/td-p/1233600
Sorry I don't have a better answer!
Does your laptop have a tenth generation Intel CPU? You might be able to upgrade to the AX201 or maybe a theoretical AX211.
@@asquirl3471 Its 10th gen, i7 10510u based laptop, 400 series chipset. I have written to Asus in november, but they are yet to answer back.
The only downside to the machine is the horrible UHD graphics.
Then your best bet is to wait for the AX211 to come out and hope Intel doesn't make a CNVio 3 standard. Or you could get the AX210 and risk needing to return it.
@@asquirl3471 I have ordered a ax 201 and gonna test it and see if it works in my machine. Because ax 210 isnt out yet here. I will report back.
I installed this in my laptop but my Bluetooth went away for vacation please help.
What kind of laptop? Are you using any adapters? The Bluetooth function may have separate drivers that you have to install.
.....Why not get a Wifi card that's newer than your laptop? Is it a waste of time? Will it damage the computer?
It won't damage your computer, but it might just not work. Some companies like HP, Lenovo, and Dell put in a whitelist of components in the bios so that only certain wifi cards can be used. It might be more accurate to say that if you have a laptop from one of those makers, don't get a wifi card newer than your most recent bios update. MSI and Asus don't use bios whitelists so they're easier to upgrade.
I have a asus motherboard for my pc and need a WiFi card that will run really good will this work too?
Hi, Botified! What specific motherboard do you have?
@@asquirl3471 asus rog strix b450-f gaming
@@asquirl3471 and it’s for gaming because I have a WiFi usb but it’s not the best
@@bot1fied your motherboard doesn't have a m.2 slot. There are two solutions that will work.
Buy the AX210 card and pcie adapter separately:
smile.amazon.com/dp/B08BWXNXFS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_1ZmdGbNSNVN8D
Or buy them together.smile.amazon.com/dp/B08519ST43/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Z0mdGb9QQF1Y8
I'd put them in the pcie 1x slot above your graphics card.
@@asquirl3471 which one do you recommend the together or separate to run better and faster?
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Hello. Bluetooth work like a transeiver audio ?
You can use the built-in Bluetooth to connect a headset to your computer for making phone calls, yes.
@@asquirl3471 i have an amplifier with bluetooth. I want to connect pc with amplifier thru bluetooth wihtout using wire. I use for moment an usb bluetooth adaptor on a tiny pc acer veriton n4640g . But i like to put inside this card with wireless + bluetooth.
@@cocancola this will work with your amplifier. Not sure if there's a slot inside that computer specifically for a wifi card.
@@asquirl3471 there is a m2 2230 slot and m2 2280
Wifi cards use a M.2 2230 Key E slot.
does it work with win 11???
Yes
But nobody has wifi 6e routers yet....
Bryant A, that was true when I published the video, but currently both Asus and Netgear have 6e routers that are available for purchase. I'll agree though that there aren't any affordable ones. But you can future proof your laptop now for $20 or so. Especially if your laptop has a 2.4ghz only card and you'd like to upgrade anyway.
@@asquirl3471 I just got a ax200 for my laptop last summer. Decided to get the 210 now.
Cool! Yeah hopefully affordable routers will come out soon!
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Your audio levels are WAY too low.
Do you still identify as a squirrel?
just use ethernet LOL