I'm 50 and past the time I could've used your help to help my kids with their homework, but I would love to learn it for ME. Clint, if you teach it, we will come.
I got marked down for half a year by a teacher who said “if you keep using pen, I’m marking your grades down by 50%”-as an ADHD student who could barely pay attention in her class (and with sensory issues around the feel/sound of pencils), I think she unwittingly galvanized me into finally doing all of my work and mastering the content, so I could say “she’s giving me 50s for perfect work, see?” Right around the end of the year she said “well… I hope you learned your lesson.” And stopped marking me down, even though I didn’t ever stop using a pen. My work was neat and correct! Soooo much energy was wasted on this battle about writing utensils!!! Make some compromises with kids when their way works for them to get across the finish line with correct answers and intact understanding!
I remember when I was in middle school learning the Pythagorean Theorem, on a test I came up with some convoluted solution without using the Pythagorean Theorem, and the teacher marked it incorrect even if the answer was right. I couldn’t remember now what I did.
This was made to make students fail on purpose belive me I've been there and seen that it's not fun I have autism and it never made sense but the reason they want students to fail is so things become bad in the early 21st century so in 2030 the great reset can happen its all an agenda
My kids school's only teach common core. I wasn't good at math in school and my 5th grader is always frustrated because I don't get what they are teaching her and can't help. I showed my husband who is on the spectrum and great at math, he laughed and said that's how he did math and his teachers always marked him wrong when he had to show his work even though the answer was correct.
The irony of the statement “Math builds on itself-if you forget the foundation, the rest of the building collapses” isn’t lost on me. Just look at the wall behind him.
Arithmetic is arithmetic, is arithmetic. The goal is to get the right answer. The old-fashioned long-hand algorithmic methods work just fine. Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?
I wonder how it would work for me if I was in school now. Dyscalculia was a pain in my neck. (It kinda still is, I get lost easily so I have to pay extra attention to where I'm going.)
When people start complaining about common core, I like to show them Tom Lerher's "New Math" a song that came out in the 1950's when schools started teaching math the way we learned it growing up. Also fun fact, the Incredibles was set during that time period, so that's what Mr. Incredible is complaining about in the second movie with Dash's math homework
When people start pushing back against people’s concerns about widespread/forced change built on unestablished “theory,” I like to show them history, and the many times this kind of wishful ideological non-sense has failed in devastating ways. The answer to this is to offer it up, not make it mandatory. People/society are a part of change. They should be considered and weighted more.
@@eclipsewrecker Except it's not wishful, it's not unestablished, and it's not "theory" it's and effective mathematical strategy that works. it's just new to you, and to all the parents trying to help their kids with math. It's not non-sense either, it's just novel (to most people).
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 “post” studies and stat analysis of CC integration. Some show no difference, some show one way or the other, and some show both as it showed dependency on the grade/year (4th graders = .02 +, 8th graders = -5 to 10). If you are asking me to point you directly to the studies, then know that is a known trap/impasse. If you don’t know how to use the internet and neutral search engines to find studies/analysis of both pro and con of subjects, then I’d fix that issue first. I know that sounds harsh, but the internet is a very common and highly integrated tool in our society; and understanding that one should research to try to disprove their beliefs and opinions, is necessary for an honest debate and for one’s own decision making. If you were to just believe a study/analysis I lead you to, then we are back to square one. If you were to deny it, then what was the point in the first place? See my original reply to your post, and,look at the last line: if we cannot see the fairness and that it was non-dismissive, but inclusive, we will not agree on this topic.
Thank you from a 4th grade teacher for explaining this! The only thing I might have added to the video would be a short demonstration of what it means when you say “it shows why math works.” Something simple, like basic multiplication vs. repeated addition. There are still a LOT of folks out there who feel that rote memorization is the only way to go!
I had that problem in college, teachers always though I was cheating despite that I never cheating in a exam in all of my life, i changed career in end out of frustration.
One of the things I wish (as a teacher of maths) the internet had more of was real life maths content. Whenever you set up an enclosure or budget for a new reptile you carry out a lot of maths in the process - particularly if you're building something from scratch like you did for your big tortoise. A section of the channel that broke this process down or linked other things you encounter in your profession to a common core standard would be brilliant.
My daughter is in the 5th grade and doesn't have a clue how to solve simple math problems. She can't remember multiplication, and I have to constantly help her fix her work. How can you say this new math is working?
Clint I’m a 21 year old dad trying to give my child the most complete understanding of the world possible. I can guarantee that a breakdown of fundamental mathematics, even a bit beyond multiplication and division into exponents and fractions would be extremely valuable
Hmmm. Not sure how to think about this. I'm from Canada, so things are a bit different here, but I have some thoughts On one hand, I work with people from India, where elementary school kids memorize their times-tables out to 35 instead of just 12, and perform far better in mathematics than anyone raised over here. They memorize and are drilled on a constant basis, and don't forget. They are efficient and understand the math intimately, without ever utilizing the more complexified ways I see kids learning today. I also tutored students for a good amount of time and found the same thing as Clint, where doing simple multiplication and division was difficult for them. I also found they were doing the same math in grades 7, 8 and 9. Same types and complexity of problems. The curriculum didn't progress them along in a way that was commensurate with the advancing of grade level. In all cases, I found that the kids were no longer memorizing times tables or how to do long division, not to mention basic number theory and a host of other fundamentals. I taught a girl who was in high school math who didn't know how many seconds were in a minute, or how many minutes in an hour or how many hours in a day! Somehow, she was doing grade 10 math and physics. This is really basic, and really bad. Her ability to abstract principles was almost non-existent, same with a lot of the other kids I worked with. They could only handle learning one method, one algorithm and one class of problems at a time. Not for lack of training, but really for lack of ability. We aren't all like Clint, in fact most aren't. Deriving mathematical principles, abstracting them and then applying them to different situations is something a lot of people can't do, and certainly don't do intuitively. To try and give kids who can barely handle one method of doing mathematical operations, several doesn't help and often makes things worse (believe me I tried). Doing things differently just confuses them, and literally causes headaches, frustration and eventually despair. Trying to make things fun is probably the worst approach I found, that just ticks them off. I only ever found that drilling and constant practice worked. Daily at a minimum. Heaven help you when the kid has dyscalculia, where the existence of abstract mathematical concepts is totally unreachable in many cases, only with very diligent work and effort. I don't, know, just had a totally different experience. I found most kids just didn't have it in them to intuit math, and the only solution was a firm and persistent drilling in the basics.
As someone who volunteered as a tutor for a non-profit back in the day, I would definitely find a video on Common Core Math extremely helpful. I remember when tutoring children having to search RUclips for videos to explain it to me, and there weren’t that many then. I think a lot of reasons adults have problems with Common Core is like you said, understanding math is key to remembering, and sometimes I feel the adults don’t understand why they present those options so they can’t follow along and help their kids. Having that resource to show the adults the “why” behind it would be invaluable!
Maybe you could not find videos 2 years ago, but i just did a quick search and could not help but trip over a plethora of videos on it and books? Check out your local library too.
Hi there - Being laid up, I have had the opp to really enjoy this channel & Clint's Reptiles. This article hits me pretty deep. I have also helped a lot of students (and adults) get through tests, graduations, and job proficency exams. The subject: Why word problems are included / related to what is being learned / additive to the whole system of mathematics and any subject related (yeah, chemistry stoichiometry). And while some can perhaps track these steps mentally, they are also good for those who need a visualization/breakdown. 0. Ung! A word problem. 1. What info is it giving you. 2. Simply, what is it asking for? (3. graph/visual if you need to doodle )4. What are you learning/have you learned that gets you what you're being asked for? Which leads to 5. the equation you're going to use. Great. Now you've got the equation and the values to plug in. And you're done being lost into the ether that you fell into after you could no longer just 'solve them in your head, without knowing why it worked.' Has served on so many levels - myself, and others in my little circle. [Also - seeing the current way word problems are taught currently is each thing is its own separate problem/method... OUCH. I would never make it through. I mean better than no attempt being made, but still OUCH!'
The worst part about common core is it creates unnecessary stress for parents. Second, I guess they forgot the saying don't fix what ain't broke. Third this is gonna make low scores kids score more low because they can't get any help at all at home. common core math is the dumbest thing I've seen since I was born 30 years ago.
Honestly, it never made sense to teach mathematics by rote alone, to me. I tended to get the answer my way and then 'show my work' on the sheet their way, so I wouldn't have to explain myself, and it alienated me from the material in a damaging way that wouldn't be reconciled until I started in on physics and computer sciences. I couldn't really help my kid much with her homework, but I do know for certain that she never had that unnecessary loathing for mathematics that I developed.
Since the primary education system has lost its mind on social and political issues, I'm now stuck homeschooling. So I'd REALLY appreciate some help with math!
Adding to the comments below, but I'd appreciate additional math videos. I was taught to memorize math and chemistry in the lower grades, and then when I got to college I really struggled with those topics. I knew higher level facts, but I was missing foundational material. As an adult, I think it would be really neat to fire up those topics again, but with an eye toward forgotten foundations.
What I personally really benefit from would be a clintefied explanation of Limes. What is that? What can you do with it and how? What does the result even mean?
I studied physics but broke up because it was too wild back than, but when my girlfriend startet in computer science I startet teaching her as much as I taught myself. One of the most memorable moments were, when I solved a proplem I could not solve back than and explain why it works. So yeah keep them coming :D
I remember that in third grade my school switched to common core math. I failed quite a few of my math tests that year and had to do a lot of make up work. The next year I never got anything but an A. I think it really helped me learn, but it hurt me a ton at first.
I’m 60 years old and would love for you to teach Common Core Math, for ME! This channel has quickly become my favorite. Great work, Clint! An educator and a reptile lover……doesn’t get much better than that!
OMG, thank you for this. I always tell people common core is how I have always done math, though wasn't taught it back in the 90s. It just made sense and was faster lol.
I would want a way to explain how basic numbers work, i can understand the logic behind that's but it is incredibly hard to explain the concept of numbers and why they work as they do, i often try graphical methods but they don't work for everybody.
I'm 26 and was barely a few grades after the introduction of common core when it swept through- and though I did very well in math (it was my best subject) and I actually enjoyed it a lot, I struggled in college, even with the exact same content, to the point where I needed to change my degree because they taught in a very non-common core way- wrote memorization without much if any application, and it wasn't at a level that I could figure out my own methods anymore. I would absolutely be thrilled to get a chance to love math again- you could talk about anything from grade school logic to derivatives to linear algebra, I'd love to watch it. I never remembered how to use long division after grade school, either :P
would help if Common Core opponents would understandt the motives for changes to classwork including understanding. I hate seeing CC videos where they blame CC for grading or specific methods instead of explaining why the new strategies are important. Example: 5x3=3+3+3+3+3 but not 5x3=5+5+5 to prevent confusing youngsters til after commutative probperty is taught (5x3=3x5) in same year.
@@FlashToso Perfect time to introduce commutative property at that moment. I would not have graded the answer wrong but taken the time to explain the difference. As teachers you have to think on your feet and there is nothing that says you can't explain it. In fact, I would praise the kid for bring it up. Why get the kid frustrated for no reason when it's a teachable moment. Even if you cover it latter - all that matters is that the communitive property is covered, and you can always repeat it regardless. The only good teachers I have ever run across are the ones that emphasis substance over form. You're premise that kids will get confused shows how you would spoon-feed students and your view of their intelligence. In the end the only thing they will learn is the size of the spoon. Everyone complains about the rote memorization of the old methods, but Common Core is really the one that stipulates rote learning.
@@craigmatthews4517 Better to explain to adults the point of teaching for kids understanding & that a consistent explanation works well till ready for next concept! too bad some are determined to blame instead!
@@FlashToso You really don't know much about what the standard method was before common core non-sense. We did have consistent explanations and understanding with the previous methods. Now the common core is nothing but a "Rube Goldberg contraption". It's been researched and documented multiple times that Common Core is an unmitigated failure. I guess you are willing to ignore empirical evidence that does not meet your narrative. In short sounds like you are unable to learn yourself. “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -- Soren Kierkegaard
Mathematics is such an elegant subject, and can be so much more fluid and creative than people realise. The common core would have frustrated the hell out of me if I'd had to endure it. I wasn't good at mathematics as a child, but grew to love it in mid adolescence. I suspect that lots of kids will find it a much longer and more tedious and confusing set of steps to remember, so I'm not convinced of its value.
Bad teachers and lazy parents can certainly undermine the goals of Common Core math. That doesn't make the drive to teach number sense wrong or useless.
@@thegreenmanofnorwich Common Core is quite easy to understand if you have parents or teachers willing to put even a modicum of effort in. Asking kids to make 10 or other very basic operations can't confuse anyone without effort on their part to remain ignorant.
of course there's no why, that's because numbers are solved through logic, and when figuring things out logically there no place for emotions in trying to find out why. In math there is no why.. That's why the common core method FUCKING SUCKS. It's the reason why kids today can't figure anything out and are getting dumber as they get older. COMMON CORE DOESN'T WORK, it's hurting us as a society in the long run.
This was not an accurate description of what common core ACTUALLY is. This is the theory of it. But in practice it hurts the majority while helping the stupid ones lol
@@jonniefast Most absurd/ridiculous comment yet. Math is a challenge true, but I have seen to many students who simply want to be spoon feed and all they learn is the size of the spoon. It's not memorizing facts but hard rational thinking that requires effort. A lot of that has just as much to do with the parents - as the teacher. Why do Asian Tiger Moms kids succeed where American kids fail?
How do you solve this problem: You are filling a swimming pool; one hose takes 12 hours to fill it on it's own and another takes nine hours, how long does it take to fill the pool with both hoses working together ?
So refreshing to see so many people who, like me, have always done shades of common core to figure our way through (oftentimes less than comprehensive) math education
Clint just had a different way of understanding and doing math with his mind -imagination , and the teachers didn’t like that because it might’ve been hard for them to understand it because they where so used to there original way of doing things(but they might’ve been able to understand it though your clints mind-eyes and if they tried) just a thought
I (tail end of gen X) tried to help my 2nd grader do his math homework. A simple straight forward addition or subtraction problem was eye opening for me to watch when I first saw him do it. There were columns and numbers on the side that seemingly had nothing to do with the problem, just gibberish, but magically he would get the right answer. I can’t complain since he gets the answer, but it seems so convoluted with extra steps rather than just doing it and getting it done in a straight forward manner. It’s to the point I’m afraid to try to help him because I worry the teacher is emphasizing the methodology/process as more the point of the math than just the answer. I don’t want to interfere with the teachers process by contaminating him with regular math in case this new common core process is foundational for math in later grades. I have said a few times “ok, you CAN do it that way, but why not just do this instead?” Baddabing baddaboong it’s straight forward and done. But then he looks at me like I just spoke French to him and I just have to let him do his own thing.
Honestly, does Common Core have biochemistry, physics, chemistry, and biology units? Because I'd like to learn those. MCAT time is next year, and chemistry is famously difficult for me
When I was in school at first, I was horrible at math. I had to be put in a IEP class for extra help. But they taught me the method of counting the invisible dots on each of the numbers. Which didn't help me at all. The farthest I got in school was geometry. I, in the past few years, needed a C or higher in Algebra for my elctrician classes. And it depends on the teacher and the mindset. Because high school math s*cked. But in college, I made it all the way to Calculas with straight A's.
understanding has always been more effective than memorization my favourite example from my experiences is the quadratic formula, a complicated mess which i have never memorized, because i can algorithmically factor a quadratic polynomial into its roots nearly as fast as rote formula-entry; i had to figure out how on my own (specifically to avoid the strain of memorizing the formula), but once i did, i _understood_ both how and why, and have never forgotten the method in 20 years since, and i can also just run the method on arbitrary symbols to re-derive the formula if i ever actually need it (mostly for programming) i've had theoretical physicists be confused by me solving quadratic equations this way, which surprises me
Your comment is either an outlier in the population or you are not speaking the truth. Please advise how you solve roots of quadratic polynomials that don't break down into rational numbers (e.g. irrational numbers) just as fast as using the quadratic formula or even using Newtons Method? Finally, I would say that your memory is poor if you cannot remember the quadratic formula.
@@craigmatthews4517 the method produces results identical to those of the quadratic formula and (as i have already mentioned) can be used to derive it if needed - it's just completing the square, recognizing that square and the remainder as a difference between squares, and factoring that difference normally - nothing complicated, and entirely algebraic really, it's weird that you'd think factoring would make irrational (but algebraic!) solutions harder than rational ones: we can factor 2 into (√2)² just as easily as we can factor 4 into 2², it's absolutely trivial unless you want a raw digital number and hate calculators, i guess
When I was in school at first, I was horrible at math. I had to be put in a IEP class for extra help. But they taught me the method of counting the invisible dots on each of the numbers. Which didn't help me at all. The farthest I got in school was geometry. I, in the past few years, needed a C or higher in Algebra for my electrician classes. And it depends on the teacher and the mindset. Because high school math s*cked. But in college, I made it all the way to Calculas with straight A's. 😊
Common core math, and the way foreign languages are often taught, is like washing your rice fifty times just to use the rice water to boil ramen. With or without the mysticism of "trust the method"
The issue I have with common core isn't that it's evil or anything like that. The issue is it's pointlessly lengthy and many steps require prior mathematical knowledge that a child has to know before being able to dive deeper into the subject like common core is designed to do. I'm no math expert but I do work in education and the amount of kids who struggle with common core compared to older methods should certainly be cause for concern.
I know how to use derivatives to solve math problems but I was never really taught what a derivative actually IS and how it works, I mostly use formulas I've memorised. It's very frustrating.
1 Common Core does not address derivatives as that is calculus. 2 If you don't know what a derivative is or why it works then your lack of understanding is a function of either not paying attention or not reading your 1st semester calculus book. I don't know of any material and or teacher that does not explain what derivatives are or represent. "The Common Core State Standards (CCSS) emphasize a focused approach to mathematics, aiming to deepen understanding rather than covering a broad range of topics superficially. While the CCSS do not explicitly include calculus, they provide foundational concepts that prepare students for advanced math. Specifically, the CCSS focus on solid conceptual understanding, procedural skill, and fluency. For calculus, students typically encounter it in high school or college-level courses, building upon the groundwork laid by the CCSS. "
I just finished calculus today with a C but just barely. Please help! I have calculus II next semester. Starting an engineering degree at 30 is difficult :(
Oh goodness, please yes do an entire series on common core math! I will watch and save all of it. My daughter is only 6, but I'm already so intimidated by the reality of helping her with her future homework. I really struggled with math through ALL of my education, including university. I really want to support my daughter and teach her to enjoy important subjects like math, but my own challenges with math are a stumbling block. Because you're such a good teacher and explain things clearly, I'm sure you could help me be a better parent when it comes to my child's formal education. It would be monumentally helpful to me.
Not sure how or why you can claim this guy is a good teacher since you haven't seen him teach?? Get her a tutor that does not teach via Common Core. Problem is that schools will not give a passing grade if you don't use the common core method. You get an A even if the answer is wrong. If you use the old method at least she will learn math and can get correct answer.
@craigmatthews4517 I called Clint a good teacher because I HAVE seen him teach, actually. He's literally worked as a professor. He is, in my opinion, a good teacher, thus I said as much to **him** in my comment on **his** video. I'm not sure why that upsets or confuses you. The "problem" I have also isn't the system of Common Core, it is that I personally struggle with the subject of mathematics even now as an adult and part of my difficulty is directly tied to lack of parental support I had in that area when I was young. Therefore, now, I am working hard to provide my child support by becoming better at math myself. Thank you for your unrequested opinions, but I'll keep doing my thing! You can teach your own kids math in whatever way you please.
This 100%. I've heard people say so many times "I can't do math because I suck at memorizing." It always throws me off because there's basically no memorization if you conceptually understand it
Why is that? I was terrible in school because it's just spelling tests or finding stuff in the biology chapter, and memorizing it for the exam. But I have an engineering degree, and I would do better the more advanced the class and the worse everyone else would do. I would always work from the definitions. But then in the real world everyone still hates you because they can't do any of those things. That means they can't be creative at all. They can't create anything from scratch such as a house or a car because the don't have math skills. Then everyone gets mad at you if you're not just trying to make the same big mac.
I dont think learning more methods to solve a problem would increase the understanding a person has for why you can do that And to understand why is mutch more useful than a method
Common Core methods in teaching math absolutely sucks. All it has done is discourage kids from actually learning any kind of basic math. These are numbers we are talking about, numbers don't have a reasons on why they work, we are trying to put meaning in other words invoke emotions behind a logical problem. When working on logical problems emotions have no place in it. The majority of kids don't get it and are not really learning it. It just doesn't stick, at all. And this is for the majority of kids out there. And now, look o at how these young adults today can't seem to do anything. The old basic way of learning math showed you on how to solve a logical problem, with no emotions tied to doing it. Common Core sucks and it's breaking down our society from the inside out. It must be a system created by communist in order to destroy our way of life, and you know what, it's working. It's made our kids dumb and reluctant to want to learn. They try teaching it, and kids don't get it but yet the kids are still moving up to the next grade. We are allowing our kids to continue to the next grade without really advancing, and we wonder why kids are so dumb and weak today. COMMON CORE was created to hit us at our core as a society to tare the U.S. down to eventually make us weak.
Wow. At 51 years old I am getting ready to start college in January. I realized last week that my math skills are gone, for the reasons that Clint talks about here. I am slowly trying to relearn.
I think common core is useful if you do the math in your head, but if you have to show your work, the traditional way makes more sense. IE, I was doing this type of math in my head when I was a kid, and the teacher would ask how I got the answer, and I couldn't really explain it, and they always thought I was cheating.
It’s kinda mind boggling there are adults out there who can’t figure out what their 10 year old is suppose to learn. Wild… what do those adults do when they run into adult problems?
when i first looked at common core i was like what in the world but once i looked at the problem and thought about it in my head trying to use the common core method it made perfect sense, there are still some areas that confuse me but only cause my brain tells me another way to solve it makes more sense lol, but i am not mad one bit that my children learn math in different ways, i believe everyone understands things differently and need shown things differently for them to understand better
Opponents don't point out CC repeals do the same for the same reasons! You do a good job of explaining why Common Core does make sense!!! THANK YOU! BTW I am an engineer & haven't found a 'Common Core' method I didn't understand. Some methods taught do not seem to have a meaningful purpose. I jsut wish teachers & textbooks would explain their motives.
Follow the money. Curriculum writers and publishers need to be paid. The problem is taking traditional math and turning it into tips and tricks, a methodology instead of just showing your work. Now you have to be able to explain your thinking. This curriculum model has been coined: "Common Core Crap" by numerous parents.
Florida did away with common core math. There was a study done that said something to the effect of it wasn’t helping, it was actually making things worse. I homeschool my kids now, but when they were doing common core at a brick and mortar school I was so lost. I couldn’t help them, they had to ask their teachers or I had to call my friends who are teachers. I’d love to see more on this even though I’m not using it anymore. Understanding it would probably be very beneficial.
Class of 2020 here 👋 as a product of this particular curriculum standard for our public school systems.. I still don’t understand how math works, and yes I graduated. I can tell you about slavery though .. and cells 😭
I have dyslexia and never understood algebra, I would memorize enough to get through a test but never "got it" and felt dumb. I needed to take high school physics to graduate because it was the only science being offered and I got very nervous. I did much better in physics than algebra. I understood the principles and the equations because the educator and the text book walked me through why we needed the data we were using and since we were working with real life principles and not just numbers I found it far more understandable. Long personal story aside, I would love seeing you reteach math to adults who did not get it the first time.
@@craigmatthews4517 yes, I talked to my teacher, used my textbook, watched videos and nothing stuck. After enough time of not getting it and my teacher getting upset at me for “not trying” I learned to memorize what I needed to get through tests and move on.
I think a simple break down of common core from basic to a little more intermidiate level would be benificial for alot parents. They’re teaching our kids this new method and then send them home to their parents and expect parents who have no concept of how common core works to help them with their home work. I will soon be in this situation with my soon who will be starting school soon. Would love to get a head start on it so I can help him understand. I don’t think there is a problem with common core, I believe the problem is in the way they started this new method.
One of the things I realized while working as a tutor is that you can't teach, or test, "understanding". you /can/ teach, and test, specific methods but understanding happens inside the student's brain and it happens at different times for different people. That's why common core teaches all of the different methods. By teaching many different methods to do the same thing it gives more chances for the students to catch the understanding of the fundamental concept. This is, of course, different when tutoring because the one on one setting allows the tutor to more easily notice the lack of understanding, and focus in on those spots. That's not really possible in a classroom setting.
@@dreddmann9292 common core had many issues, but they were issues of implementation and not of intent or method. The problems that I have seen with it have all been teachers who, themselves, don't understand what and /why/ they are teaching things that way and a lack of engagement with parents (who the children would look to for help on homework).
@@gildedbear5355 common core sucks and that's all there is to it. The arithmetic we where using before common core was working just fine. Now days kids aren't learning shit due to this broken arithmetic. Majority of kids are passing class without really learning, that's a majority. common core sucks, it just doesn't work.
@@dreddmann9292 But it wasn't "working just fine". That's WHY common core was developed in the first place. We in the US have generations of people who learned math by rote. Learned algorithms for how to solve math problems. However, they never learned WHY those algorithms work, which means that while they can use them in the problem space where they were learned the people can't generalize the algorithms to novel situations. Let me ask this, what is your personal experience with common core? Was it as a parent, student, teacher?
Common Core teaches all the different methods? Really! You are joking right? Thats simply false statement. I have seen how its common core supposedly works.
I'm surprised at how uninformative this video was, considering the presenter. I would've liked to see an example of _how_ this system is supposed to help children understand math at a more fundamental level.
God, I wish I had learned Common Core in school. I did great in elementary, mostly because I had simply memorized the basic equations and a decent grasp of early algebra, but in middle and high school I fell down hard. I barely passed the required courses and never touched the subject again. To this day, I'm surprised I scored a 27 on the ACT math section. I think if I had been doing that kind of thinking from the beginning, I might've had an easier time.
Math has always been my worst subject in school! I think you’re onto something here, really. It makes sense in my case. I never memorized or understood how to do long multiplication for example. Calculators were my best friends for those problems! And not understanding one aspect of math can make the whole foundation weaker. I’m really interested in science so I wish I was better with math, but it’s always given me a hard time. Biology is one of my favorite sciences because it’s less math focused than other sciences! That, and, I love learning about living things, humans, animals, plants, etc. True story: back when I was in elementary school in the early 2000’s (I graduated high school in 2015), I came up with the nickname “meanie math” whenever I was frustrated at my math homework. 🤣
If anyone could get me interested in math it would be Clint! That subject gave me anxiety all through school and I was super happy to drop it in 11th grade. But I do find mathematical concepts super fascinating! Also, here's a book recommendation- Alex in Numberland. The first chapter explains why so many of us are averse to math! It talks about how humans are evolutionarily programmed to think in relative terms rather then linear terms. For instance, the difference between 1 and 100 seems greater than that between 1 million 2 million.
The ironic thing here is that their is one simple reason WHY math works. Humans made the assumption at some point that categorical definitions were appropriate for analyzing the world. In short, we decided that the number 1 and the number 0 truly exist, even though they don’t. Everything else past this is simply a ‘how’ not a ‘why’. Math is a process, it doesn’t include a ‘why’.
I see a lot of comments about people wanting to know about Common Core Math even though it is being deprecated. Here' s some ideas you should consider before believing the efficacy of Common Core math: 1 You don't have to wait for this guy to come up with videos on it. There are plenty of videos you yourself should view to become familiar with it. More on this latter. 2 A lot of complaints about the old way of teaching math seem to center around following procedures. If you think that the old way had a lot of procedures, then I suggest you look at some videos on the extensive procedural machinations of doing multiplying and dividing via common core method. Good luck with that! 3 This guy's expertise is in biology - not math. I have seen videos and its more edutainment in stating facts rather than abstract thinking. (I am sure he is a passionate educator, but he does interject subtle biases in many of his videos too). 4 I read many comments that parents want their kids to learn via common core without seeing what is taught. The complaint about the old ways was that kids simply learned procedures without answering why knowing these are important. Well, I got news for you the really interesting why question and answers does not really come into play until the basics are learned to begin with. The old method did explain why just as much as Common core supposedly tries to get across. It's more of an excuse for not thinking/reasoning in the first place. Math requires this more than any other subject. For example, in biology kids are spoon feed facts without a lot of proofs. That's not the case with math as you must think abstractly to begin with. There is an old saying in teaching if you spoon feed kids, then the only thing they learn is the size of the spoon. Yes, math requires difficult thinking rather than simply regurgitation or memorized facts. See Daniel Kahneman book "Thinking Fast and Slow" for more information. 5 Common Core was developed/promoted by the NEA and AFT. It was really not tested for efficacy in the first place. People must understand that the educational establishment ran with what sounded good rather than what has worked in the past. There are other examples of how educators have bought into similar trendy concepts that were not backed up by empirical testing. One such example is VARK (Visual, Aural, Read/write, and Kinesthetic - sensory modalities) that was an educational concept put forth on a video by a teacher in New Zealand. It sounded good and was taken as gospel by a lot of educational schools, but it had no efficacy or testing. Educators simply accepted it and put it into practice. 6 Finally I would like to point out that there are educators in the comments who want to be trained in Common Core Math. I find this disturbing as I have little faith in teachers who cannot teach themselves a new subject. In other words, they should be the ones who know how to learn or be able to learn how to learn. Suggest readers of my comment look into how Common Core Reading is taught via context and not the old way of phonics. Just one of many reasons kids cannot read.
It’s just standardized content at each grade and an emphasis on problem solving. Don’t worry people, even if they call it slightly different, modern teaching will still include similar better practices, unless we regress to serfdom or something.
@@LeroyMustang Its not just standardized content and modern teaching methods DO NOT include similar better practices. Either you have not seen it in practiced or you are gaslighting people with your assertions. Research shows Common Core has no efficacy and is a failure. They say they simply provide the objectives or end goals, but in truth when the curriculum is examined with examples you see they proscribe the most absurd content/methods of teaching subjects. It was never really tested before being pushed out there. “It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” -- Thomas Sowell
I'm 50 and past the time I could've used your help to help my kids with their homework, but I would love to learn it for ME. Clint, if you teach it, we will come.
I am 62 and I agree with you
In my math classes, it didn't matter if you got the question right- if you didn't do it their way, it was counted as wrong.
I got marked down for half a year by a teacher who said “if you keep using pen, I’m marking your grades down by 50%”-as an ADHD student who could barely pay attention in her class (and with sensory issues around the feel/sound of pencils), I think she unwittingly galvanized me into finally doing all of my work and mastering the content, so I could say “she’s giving me 50s for perfect work, see?” Right around the end of the year she said “well… I hope you learned your lesson.” And stopped marking me down, even though I didn’t ever stop using a pen. My work was neat and correct! Soooo much energy was wasted on this battle about writing utensils!!! Make some compromises with kids when their way works for them to get across the finish line with correct answers and intact understanding!
I remember when I was in middle school learning the Pythagorean Theorem, on a test I came up with some convoluted solution without using the Pythagorean Theorem, and the teacher marked it incorrect even if the answer was right. I couldn’t remember now what I did.
This was made to make students fail on purpose belive me I've been there and seen that it's not fun I have autism and it never made sense but the reason they want students to fail is so things become bad in the early 21st century so in 2030 the great reset can happen its all an agenda
Covid 19 and electric cars are related to it along with climate change
My kids school's only teach common core. I wasn't good at math in school and my 5th grader is always frustrated because I don't get what they are teaching her and can't help. I showed my husband who is on the spectrum and great at math, he laughed and said that's how he did math and his teachers always marked him wrong when he had to show his work even though the answer was correct.
The irony of the statement “Math builds on itself-if you forget the foundation, the rest of the building collapses” isn’t lost on me.
Just look at the wall behind him.
😂 The bricks are literally crumbling behind him. I wonder if he is at home or at his office/school building?
Arithmetic is arithmetic, is arithmetic.
The goal is to get the right answer.
The old-fashioned long-hand algorithmic methods work just fine.
Why make it more complicated than it needs to be?
I wonder how it would work for me if I was in school now. Dyscalculia was a pain in my neck. (It kinda still is, I get lost easily so I have to pay extra attention to where I'm going.)
When people start complaining about common core, I like to show them Tom Lerher's "New Math" a song that came out in the 1950's when schools started teaching math the way we learned it growing up.
Also fun fact, the Incredibles was set during that time period, so that's what Mr. Incredible is complaining about in the second movie with Dash's math homework
When people start pushing back against people’s concerns about widespread/forced change built on unestablished “theory,” I like to show them history, and the many times this kind of wishful ideological non-sense has failed in devastating ways.
The answer to this is to offer it up, not make it mandatory. People/society are a part of change. They should be considered and weighted more.
@@eclipsewrecker Except it's not wishful, it's not unestablished, and it's not "theory" it's and effective mathematical strategy that works. it's just new to you, and to all the parents trying to help their kids with math. It's not non-sense either, it's just novel (to most people).
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 wrong. You need to check the studies.
@@eclipsewrecker I have? I'm really curious which studies you're referring to
@@jeremiahsaxton8967 “post” studies and stat analysis of CC integration. Some show no difference, some show one way or the other, and some show both as it showed dependency on the grade/year (4th graders = .02 +, 8th graders = -5 to 10).
If you are asking me to point you directly to the studies, then know that is a known trap/impasse. If you don’t know how to use the internet and neutral search engines to find studies/analysis of both pro and con of subjects, then I’d fix that issue first. I know that sounds harsh, but the internet is a very common and highly integrated tool in our society; and understanding that one should research to try to disprove their beliefs and opinions, is necessary for an honest debate and for one’s own decision making. If you were to just believe a study/analysis I lead you to, then we are back to square one. If you were to deny it, then what was the point in the first place?
See my original reply to your post, and,look at the last line: if we cannot see the fairness and that it was non-dismissive, but inclusive, we will not agree on this topic.
Thank you from a 4th grade teacher for explaining this! The only thing I might have added to the video would be a short demonstration of what it means when you say “it shows why math works.” Something simple, like basic multiplication vs. repeated addition. There are still a LOT of folks out there who feel that rote memorization is the only way to go!
I had that problem in college, teachers always though I was cheating despite that I never cheating in a exam in all of my life, i changed career in end out of frustration.
One of the things I wish (as a teacher of maths) the internet had more of was real life maths content. Whenever you set up an enclosure or budget for a new reptile you carry out a lot of maths in the process - particularly if you're building something from scratch like you did for your big tortoise. A section of the channel that broke this process down or linked other things you encounter in your profession to a common core standard would be brilliant.
Based on the thumbnail I was expecting Clint to explain complex numbers as the missing group ... lol
My daughter is in the 5th grade and doesn't have a clue how to solve simple math problems. She can't remember multiplication, and I have to constantly help her fix her work. How can you say this new math is working?
Clint I’m a 21 year old dad trying to give my child the most complete understanding of the world possible. I can guarantee that a breakdown of fundamental mathematics, even a bit beyond multiplication and division into exponents and fractions would be extremely valuable
Hmmm. Not sure how to think about this. I'm from Canada, so things are a bit different here, but I have some thoughts On one hand, I work with people from India, where elementary school kids memorize their times-tables out to 35 instead of just 12, and perform far better in mathematics than anyone raised over here. They memorize and are drilled on a constant basis, and don't forget. They are efficient and understand the math intimately, without ever utilizing the more complexified ways I see kids learning today. I also tutored students for a good amount of time and found the same thing as Clint, where doing simple multiplication and division was difficult for them. I also found they were doing the same math in grades 7, 8 and 9. Same types and complexity of problems. The curriculum didn't progress them along in a way that was commensurate with the advancing of grade level. In all cases, I found that the kids were no longer memorizing times tables or how to do long division, not to mention basic number theory and a host of other fundamentals. I taught a girl who was in high school math who didn't know how many seconds were in a minute, or how many minutes in an hour or how many hours in a day! Somehow, she was doing grade 10 math and physics. This is really basic, and really bad. Her ability to abstract principles was almost non-existent, same with a lot of the other kids I worked with. They could only handle learning one method, one algorithm and one class of problems at a time. Not for lack of training, but really for lack of ability.
We aren't all like Clint, in fact most aren't. Deriving mathematical principles, abstracting them and then applying them to different situations is something a lot of people can't do, and certainly don't do intuitively. To try and give kids who can barely handle one method of doing mathematical operations, several doesn't help and often makes things worse (believe me I tried). Doing things differently just confuses them, and literally causes headaches, frustration and eventually despair. Trying to make things fun is probably the worst approach I found, that just ticks them off. I only ever found that drilling and constant practice worked. Daily at a minimum. Heaven help you when the kid has dyscalculia, where the existence of abstract mathematical concepts is totally unreachable in many cases, only with very diligent work and effort.
I don't, know, just had a totally different experience. I found most kids just didn't have it in them to intuit math, and the only solution was a firm and persistent drilling in the basics.
As someone who volunteered as a tutor for a non-profit back in the day, I would definitely find a video on Common Core Math extremely helpful. I remember when tutoring children having to search RUclips for videos to explain it to me, and there weren’t that many then.
I think a lot of reasons adults have problems with Common Core is like you said, understanding math is key to remembering, and sometimes I feel the adults don’t understand why they present those options so they can’t follow along and help their kids. Having that resource to show the adults the “why” behind it would be invaluable!
Maybe you could not find videos 2 years ago, but i just did a quick search and could not help but trip over a plethora of videos on it and books? Check out your local library too.
Hi there - Being laid up, I have had the opp to really enjoy this channel & Clint's Reptiles. This article hits me pretty deep. I have also helped a lot of students (and adults) get through tests, graduations, and job proficency exams. The subject: Why word problems are included / related to what is being learned / additive to the whole system of mathematics and any subject related (yeah, chemistry stoichiometry). And while some can perhaps track these steps mentally, they are also good for those who need a visualization/breakdown. 0. Ung! A word problem. 1. What info is it giving you. 2. Simply, what is it asking for? (3. graph/visual if you need to doodle )4. What are you learning/have you learned that gets you what you're being asked for? Which leads to 5. the equation you're going to use. Great. Now you've got the equation and the values to plug in. And you're done being lost into the ether that you fell into after you could no longer just 'solve them in your head, without knowing why it worked.' Has served on so many levels - myself, and others in my little circle. [Also - seeing the current way word problems are taught currently is each thing is its own separate problem/method... OUCH. I would never make it through. I mean better than no attempt being made, but still OUCH!'
The worst part about common core is it creates unnecessary stress for parents. Second, I guess they forgot the saying don't fix what ain't broke. Third this is gonna make low scores kids score more low because they can't get any help at all at home. common core math is the dumbest thing I've seen since I was born 30 years ago.
It was a “we can save them all…..boat is now sinking,” failure.
Honestly, it never made sense to teach mathematics by rote alone, to me. I tended to get the answer my way and then 'show my work' on the sheet their way, so I wouldn't have to explain myself, and it alienated me from the material in a damaging way that wouldn't be reconciled until I started in on physics and computer sciences.
I couldn't really help my kid much with her homework, but I do know for certain that she never had that unnecessary loathing for mathematics that I developed.
Since the primary education system has lost its mind on social and political issues, I'm now stuck homeschooling. So I'd REALLY appreciate some help with math!
I can't divide by anything more than one digit. how does that work?
Adding to the comments below, but I'd appreciate additional math videos. I was taught to memorize math and chemistry in the lower grades, and then when I got to college I really struggled with those topics. I knew higher level facts, but I was missing foundational material. As an adult, I think it would be really neat to fire up those topics again, but with an eye toward forgotten foundations.
What I personally really benefit from would be a clintefied explanation of Limes. What is that? What can you do with it and how? What does the result even mean?
As a parent of a kindergartener, I would absolutely love to learn all of the above. I've always been good with math, but I'm waaaaay out of practice.
I studied physics but broke up because it was too wild back than, but when my girlfriend startet in computer science I startet teaching her as much as I taught myself. One of the most memorable moments were, when I solved a proplem I could not solve back than and explain why it works. So yeah keep them coming :D
I remember that in third grade my school switched to common core math. I failed quite a few of my math tests that year and had to do a lot of make up work. The next year I never got anything but an A. I think it really helped me learn, but it hurt me a ton at first.
I’m 60 years old and would love for you to teach Common Core Math, for ME!
This channel has quickly become my favorite. Great work, Clint! An educator and a reptile lover……doesn’t get much better than that!
OMG, thank you for this. I always tell people common core is how I have always done math, though wasn't taught it back in the 90s. It just made sense and was faster lol.
I would want a way to explain how basic numbers work, i can understand the logic behind that's but it is incredibly hard to explain the concept of numbers and why they work as they do, i often try graphical methods but they don't work for everybody.
I'm 26 and was barely a few grades after the introduction of common core when it swept through- and though I did very well in math (it was my best subject) and I actually enjoyed it a lot, I struggled in college, even with the exact same content, to the point where I needed to change my degree because they taught in a very non-common core way- wrote memorization without much if any application, and it wasn't at a level that I could figure out my own methods anymore.
I would absolutely be thrilled to get a chance to love math again- you could talk about anything from grade school logic to derivatives to linear algebra, I'd love to watch it. I never remembered how to use long division after grade school, either :P
would help if Common Core opponents would understandt the motives for changes to classwork including understanding. I hate seeing CC videos where they blame CC for grading or specific methods instead of explaining why the new strategies are important.
Example: 5x3=3+3+3+3+3 but not 5x3=5+5+5 to prevent confusing youngsters til after commutative probperty is taught (5x3=3x5) in same year.
@@FlashToso Perfect time to introduce commutative property at that moment. I would not have graded the answer wrong but taken the time to explain the difference. As teachers you have to think on your feet and there is nothing that says you can't explain it. In fact, I would praise the kid for bring it up. Why get the kid frustrated for no reason when it's a teachable moment. Even if you cover it latter - all that matters is that the communitive property is covered, and you can always repeat it regardless. The only good teachers I have ever run across are the ones that emphasis substance over form. You're premise that kids will get confused shows how you would spoon-feed students and your view of their intelligence. In the end the only thing they will learn is the size of the spoon.
Everyone complains about the rote memorization of the old methods, but Common Core is really the one that stipulates rote learning.
@@craigmatthews4517 Better to explain to adults the point of teaching for kids understanding & that a consistent explanation works well till ready for next concept! too bad some are determined to blame instead!
@@FlashToso You really don't know much about what the standard method was before common core non-sense. We did have consistent explanations and understanding with the previous methods. Now the common core is nothing but a "Rube Goldberg contraption".
It's been researched and documented multiple times that Common Core is an unmitigated failure. I guess you are willing to ignore empirical evidence that does not meet your narrative. In short sounds like you are unable to learn yourself.
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -- Soren Kierkegaard
Mathematics is such an elegant subject, and can be so much more fluid and creative than people realise. The common core would have frustrated the hell out of me if I'd had to endure it. I wasn't good at mathematics as a child, but grew to love it in mid adolescence. I suspect that lots of kids will find it a much longer and more tedious and confusing set of steps to remember, so I'm not convinced of its value.
Bad teachers and lazy parents can certainly undermine the goals of Common Core math. That doesn't make the drive to teach number sense wrong or useless.
@@TacticusPrime your comment appears very loosely related to what I said
@@thegreenmanofnorwich Common Core is quite easy to understand if you have parents or teachers willing to put even a modicum of effort in. Asking kids to make 10 or other very basic operations can't confuse anyone without effort on their part to remain ignorant.
@@TacticusPrime again, totally fine, but largely unrelated to what I said
@@thegreenmanofnorwich You said that it's a longer and more tedious set of steps. That isn't the case.
Clint, buddy, you're awesome and I love your work...But there is no "why" in this video!
of course there's no why, that's because numbers are solved through logic, and when figuring things out logically there no place for emotions in trying to find out why. In math there is no why.. That's why the common core method FUCKING SUCKS. It's the reason why kids today can't figure anything out and are getting dumber as they get older. COMMON CORE DOESN'T WORK, it's hurting us as a society in the long run.
i failed a calc test because I got every answer right but didn't show "their" work. I showed mine, but that apparently had to be wrong.
I despise Common core math!
This was not an accurate description of what common core ACTUALLY is. This is the theory of it. But in practice it hurts the majority while helping the stupid ones lol
a good teacher will show many ways to approach the problem, the feds forcing people to do things is another debate
a student failing is the result of a failure to teach
@@jonniefast Most absurd/ridiculous comment yet. Math is a challenge true, but I have seen to many students who simply want to be spoon feed and all they learn is the size of the spoon. It's not memorizing facts but hard rational thinking that requires effort. A lot of that has just as much to do with the parents - as the teacher. Why do Asian Tiger Moms kids succeed where American kids fail?
My teachers would take off points for not using the right method
What is your experience with learning math through common core?
Way back in the sixties, we found that there is a reasonable middle ground.
How do you solve this problem: You are filling a swimming pool; one hose takes 12 hours to fill it on it's own and another takes nine hours, how long does it take to fill the pool with both hoses working together ?
So refreshing to see so many people who, like me, have always done shades of common core to figure our way through (oftentimes less than comprehensive) math education
I was told they do math differently in Asia as well ❤
Clint just had a different way of understanding and doing math with his mind -imagination , and the teachers didn’t like that because it might’ve been hard for them to understand it because they where so used to there original way of doing things(but they might’ve been able to understand it though your clints mind-eyes and if they tried) just a thought
It would be cool to see the different types of problems in videos. I don't have children, but I'm a therapist and hear about this struggle.
Agree, but you can also look this up yourself too.
Yes! More please, Clint!
I (tail end of gen X) tried to help my 2nd grader do his math homework. A simple straight forward addition or subtraction problem was eye opening for me to watch when I first saw him do it. There were columns and numbers on the side that seemingly had nothing to do with the problem, just gibberish, but magically he would get the right answer. I can’t complain since he gets the answer, but it seems so convoluted with extra steps rather than just doing it and getting it done in a straight forward manner. It’s to the point I’m afraid to try to help him because I worry the teacher is emphasizing the methodology/process as more the point of the math than just the answer. I don’t want to interfere with the teachers process by contaminating him with regular math in case this new common core process is foundational for math in later grades.
I have said a few times “ok, you CAN do it that way, but why not just do this instead?” Baddabing baddaboong it’s straight forward and done. But then he looks at me like I just spoke French to him and I just have to let him do his own thing.
Can you make a video with examples about common core math?
Honestly, does Common Core have biochemistry, physics, chemistry, and biology units? Because I'd like to learn those. MCAT time is next year, and chemistry is famously difficult for me
When I was in school at first, I was horrible at math. I had to be put in a IEP class for extra help. But they taught me the method of counting the invisible dots on each of the numbers. Which didn't help me at all. The farthest I got in school was geometry. I, in the past few years, needed a C or higher in Algebra for my elctrician classes. And it depends on the teacher and the mindset. Because high school math s*cked. But in college, I made it all the way to Calculas with straight A's.
So glad I didn’t have to learn this BS in school
understanding has always been more effective than memorization
my favourite example from my experiences is the quadratic formula, a complicated mess which i have never memorized, because i can algorithmically factor a quadratic polynomial into its roots nearly as fast as rote formula-entry; i had to figure out how on my own (specifically to avoid the strain of memorizing the formula), but once i did, i _understood_ both how and why, and have never forgotten the method in 20 years since, and i can also just run the method on arbitrary symbols to re-derive the formula if i ever actually need it (mostly for programming)
i've had theoretical physicists be confused by me solving quadratic equations this way, which surprises me
Your comment is either an outlier in the population or you are not speaking the truth. Please advise how you solve roots of quadratic polynomials that don't break down into rational numbers (e.g. irrational numbers) just as fast as using the quadratic formula or even using Newtons Method?
Finally, I would say that your memory is poor if you cannot remember the quadratic formula.
@@craigmatthews4517 the method produces results identical to those of the quadratic formula and (as i have already mentioned) can be used to derive it if needed - it's just completing the square, recognizing that square and the remainder as a difference between squares, and factoring that difference normally - nothing complicated, and entirely algebraic
really, it's weird that you'd think factoring would make irrational (but algebraic!) solutions harder than rational ones: we can factor 2 into (√2)² just as easily as we can factor 4 into 2², it's absolutely trivial
unless you want a raw digital number and hate calculators, i guess
And completing the square ! That's always fun.
When I was in school at first, I was horrible at math. I had to be put in a IEP class for extra help. But they taught me the method of counting the invisible dots on each of the numbers. Which didn't help me at all. The farthest I got in school was geometry. I, in the past few years, needed a C or higher in Algebra for my electrician classes. And it depends on the teacher and the mindset. Because high school math s*cked. But in college, I made it all the way to Calculas with straight A's. 😊
Common core math, and the way foreign languages are often taught, is like washing your rice fifty times just to use the rice water to boil ramen.
With or without the mysticism of "trust the method"
The issue I have with common core isn't that it's evil or anything like that. The issue is it's pointlessly lengthy and many steps require prior mathematical knowledge that a child has to know before being able to dive deeper into the subject like common core is designed to do. I'm no math expert but I do work in education and the amount of kids who struggle with common core compared to older methods should certainly be cause for concern.
I know how to use derivatives to solve math problems but I was never really taught what a derivative actually IS and how it works, I mostly use formulas I've memorised. It's very frustrating.
1 Common Core does not address derivatives as that is calculus.
2 If you don't know what a derivative is or why it works then your lack of understanding is a function of either not paying attention or not reading your 1st semester calculus book. I don't know of any material and or teacher that does not explain what derivatives are or represent.
"The Common Core State Standards (CCSS) emphasize a focused approach to mathematics, aiming to deepen understanding rather than covering a broad range of topics superficially. While the CCSS do not explicitly include calculus, they provide foundational concepts that prepare students for advanced math. Specifically, the CCSS focus on solid conceptual understanding, procedural skill, and fluency. For calculus, students typically encounter it in high school or college-level courses, building upon the groundwork laid by the CCSS. "
I didn’t know this channel existed. Now he’s just doing biology stuff
I just finished calculus today with a C but just barely. Please help! I have calculus II next semester. Starting an engineering degree at 30 is difficult :(
Congratulations on finishing Calc. I ! Don't be anxious about Calc. II, I found it easier than Calc. I and more fun.
Oh goodness, please yes do an entire series on common core math! I will watch and save all of it. My daughter is only 6, but I'm already so intimidated by the reality of helping her with her future homework. I really struggled with math through ALL of my education, including university. I really want to support my daughter and teach her to enjoy important subjects like math, but my own challenges with math are a stumbling block. Because you're such a good teacher and explain things clearly, I'm sure you could help me be a better parent when it comes to my child's formal education. It would be monumentally helpful to me.
Not sure how or why you can claim this guy is a good teacher since you haven't seen him teach?? Get her a tutor that does not teach via Common Core. Problem is that schools will not give a passing grade if you don't use the common core method. You get an A even if the answer is wrong. If you use the old method at least she will learn math and can get correct answer.
@craigmatthews4517 I called Clint a good teacher because I HAVE seen him teach, actually. He's literally worked as a professor. He is, in my opinion, a good teacher, thus I said as much to **him** in my comment on **his** video. I'm not sure why that upsets or confuses you. The "problem" I have also isn't the system of Common Core, it is that I personally struggle with the subject of mathematics even now as an adult and part of my difficulty is directly tied to lack of parental support I had in that area when I was young. Therefore, now, I am working hard to provide my child support by becoming better at math myself. Thank you for your unrequested opinions, but I'll keep doing my thing! You can teach your own kids math in whatever way you please.
@@amyjudy33 Wish you well.
@@craigmatthews4517 Same to you~
This 100%. I've heard people say so many times "I can't do math because I suck at memorizing." It always throws me off because there's basically no memorization if you conceptually understand it
Why is that? I was terrible in school because it's just spelling tests or finding stuff in the biology chapter, and memorizing it for the exam. But I have an engineering degree, and I would do better the more advanced the class and the worse everyone else would do. I would always work from the definitions. But then in the real world everyone still hates you because they can't do any of those things. That means they can't be creative at all. They can't create anything from scratch such as a house or a car because the don't have math skills. Then everyone gets mad at you if you're not just trying to make the same big mac.
I dont think learning more methods to solve a problem would increase the understanding a person has for why you can do that
And to understand why is mutch more useful than a method
This is so dam true. Also i am surprised that a clints did math. Is the other clint the same or does he hate math?
This explanation about common core is about as good as common core itself!
Common Core methods in teaching math absolutely sucks. All it has done is discourage kids from actually learning any kind of basic math. These are numbers we are talking about, numbers don't have a reasons on why they work, we are trying to put meaning in other words invoke emotions behind a logical problem. When working on logical problems emotions have no place in it. The majority of kids don't get it and are not really learning it. It just doesn't stick, at all. And this is for the majority of kids out there. And now, look o
at how these young adults today can't seem to do anything. The old basic way of learning math showed you on how to solve a logical problem, with no emotions tied to doing it. Common Core sucks and it's breaking down our society from the inside out. It must be a system created by communist in order to destroy our way of life, and you know what, it's working. It's made our kids dumb and reluctant to want to learn. They try teaching it, and kids don't get it but yet the kids are still moving up to the next grade. We are allowing our kids to continue to the next grade without really advancing, and we wonder why kids are so dumb and weak today. COMMON CORE was created to hit us at our core as a society to tare the U.S. down to eventually make us weak.
Wow. At 51 years old I am getting ready to start college in January. I realized last week that my math skills are gone, for the reasons that Clint talks about here. I am slowly trying to relearn.
I think common core is useful if you do the math in your head, but if you have to show your work, the traditional way makes more sense. IE, I was doing this type of math in my head when I was a kid, and the teacher would ask how I got the answer, and I couldn't really explain it, and they always thought I was cheating.
I can’t relate to what you’re saying so much in this video! I was exactly like you were, or I guess still are….and I still am! Lol
It’s kinda mind boggling there are adults out there who can’t figure out what their 10 year old is suppose to learn. Wild… what do those adults do when they run into adult problems?
when i first looked at common core i was like what in the world but once i looked at the problem and thought about it in my head trying to use the common core method it made perfect sense, there are still some areas that confuse me but only cause my brain tells me another way to solve it makes more sense lol, but i am not mad one bit that my children learn math in different ways, i believe everyone understands things differently and need shown things differently for them to understand better
Opponents don't point out CC repeals do the same for the same reasons!
You do a good job of explaining why Common Core does make sense!!! THANK YOU!
BTW I am an engineer & haven't found a 'Common Core' method I didn't understand. Some methods taught do not seem to have a meaningful purpose. I jsut wish teachers & textbooks would explain their motives.
An example wood make this clearer maybe
Well if it Clint says it's a good thing I guess I don't feel bad anymore for not being able to help my 6th grader in math
Show examples
Follow the money. Curriculum writers and publishers need to be paid. The problem is taking traditional math and turning it into tips and tricks, a methodology instead of just showing your work. Now you have to be able to explain your thinking. This curriculum model has been coined: "Common Core Crap" by numerous parents.
Florida did away with common core math. There was a study done that said something to the effect of it wasn’t helping, it was actually making things worse. I homeschool my kids now, but when they were doing common core at a brick and mortar school I was so lost. I couldn’t help them, they had to ask their teachers or I had to call my friends who are teachers. I’d love to see more on this even though I’m not using it anymore. Understanding it would probably be very beneficial.
Class of 2020 here 👋 as a product of this particular curriculum standard for our public school systems.. I still don’t understand how math works, and yes I graduated. I can tell you about slavery though .. and cells 😭
Go to the Archive Find old Depreciated Math books. They will teach more than our schools did through its entirety. School was a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME.
#commoncoreisthedevil
Common core still has lots of problems , side effects and misleads .
I have dyslexia and never understood algebra, I would memorize enough to get through a test but never "got it" and felt dumb. I needed to take high school physics to graduate because it was the only science being offered and I got very nervous.
I did much better in physics than algebra. I understood the principles and the equations because the educator and the text book walked me through why we needed the data we were using and since we were working with real life principles and not just numbers I found it far more understandable.
Long personal story aside, I would love seeing you reteach math to adults who did not get it the first time.
Did you approach your math teacher to walk you through algebra? Did you use a textbook in algebra?
@@craigmatthews4517 yes, I talked to my teacher, used my textbook, watched videos and nothing stuck. After enough time of not getting it and my teacher getting upset at me for “not trying” I learned to memorize what I needed to get through tests and move on.
more common core content please!
Yes please thank you!
I know this guy but I can’t figure out from where 😂
I think a simple break down of common core from basic to a little more intermidiate level would be benificial for alot parents. They’re teaching our kids this new method and then send them home to their parents and expect parents who have no concept of how common core works to help them with their home work. I will soon be in this situation with my soon who will be starting school soon. Would love to get a head start on it so I can help him understand. I don’t think there is a problem with common core, I believe the problem is in the way they started this new method.
Yes please more!
"That would be the Latour, then?"
Crap math, crap teachers, crap school board, and crap Liberals!!!
That would be great for my friend Meg!
Yes! Teach us
Thanks to common core, I’m horrible at math. Gates to hell!
One of the things I realized while working as a tutor is that you can't teach, or test, "understanding". you /can/ teach, and test, specific methods but understanding happens inside the student's brain and it happens at different times for different people.
That's why common core teaches all of the different methods. By teaching many different methods to do the same thing it gives more chances for the students to catch the understanding of the fundamental concept.
This is, of course, different when tutoring because the one on one setting allows the tutor to more easily notice the lack of understanding, and focus in on those spots. That's not really possible in a classroom setting.
common core sucks and that's all there is to it.
@@dreddmann9292 common core had many issues, but they were issues of implementation and not of intent or method. The problems that I have seen with it have all been teachers who, themselves, don't understand what and /why/ they are teaching things that way and a lack of engagement with parents (who the children would look to for help on homework).
@@gildedbear5355 common core sucks and that's all there is to it. The arithmetic we where using before common core was working just fine. Now days kids aren't learning shit due to this broken arithmetic. Majority of kids are passing class without really learning, that's a majority. common core sucks, it just doesn't work.
@@dreddmann9292 But it wasn't "working just fine". That's WHY common core was developed in the first place. We in the US have generations of people who learned math by rote. Learned algorithms for how to solve math problems. However, they never learned WHY those algorithms work, which means that while they can use them in the problem space where they were learned the people can't generalize the algorithms to novel situations.
Let me ask this, what is your personal experience with common core? Was it as a parent, student, teacher?
Common Core teaches all the different methods? Really! You are joking right? Thats simply false statement. I have seen how its common core supposedly works.
If you'll give a math class, I'm signing up! I have dyscalculia, so anything that'll get it in to my head is a God send.
I would love this!... once you get back from the Amazon ;P
I'm surprised at how uninformative this video was, considering the presenter. I would've liked to see an example of _how_ this system is supposed to help children understand math at a more fundamental level.
That because they cant its grifting 101.
God, I wish I had learned Common Core in school. I did great in elementary, mostly because I had simply memorized the basic equations and a decent grasp of early algebra, but in middle and high school I fell down hard. I barely passed the required courses and never touched the subject again. To this day, I'm surprised I scored a 27 on the ACT math section. I think if I had been doing that kind of thinking from the beginning, I might've had an easier time.
No you dont.
But when 5x3 no longer equals 15, your math sucks.
More please Clint
Math has always been my worst subject in school! I think you’re onto something here, really. It makes sense in my case. I never memorized or understood how to do long multiplication for example. Calculators were my best friends for those problems! And not understanding one aspect of math can make the whole foundation weaker.
I’m really interested in science so I wish I was better with math, but it’s always given me a hard time. Biology is one of my favorite sciences because it’s less math focused than other sciences! That, and, I love learning about living things, humans, animals, plants, etc.
True story: back when I was in elementary school in the early 2000’s (I graduated high school in 2015), I came up with the nickname “meanie math” whenever I was frustrated at my math homework. 🤣
The face of A Grifter. Common core doesn't teach ANYTHING beyond Rote Memorization.
TOTAL NON-SENSE = COMMON CORE = CLINT EXPLAINS
If anyone could get me interested in math it would be Clint! That subject gave me anxiety all through school and I was super happy to drop it in 11th grade. But I do find mathematical concepts super fascinating!
Also, here's a book recommendation- Alex in Numberland.
The first chapter explains why so many of us are averse to math! It talks about how humans are evolutionarily programmed to think in relative terms rather then linear terms. For instance, the difference between 1 and 100 seems greater than that between 1 million 2 million.
The ironic thing here is that their is one simple reason WHY math works. Humans made the assumption at some point that categorical definitions were appropriate for analyzing the world. In short, we decided that the number 1 and the number 0 truly exist, even though they don’t. Everything else past this is simply a ‘how’ not a ‘why’. Math is a process, it doesn’t include a ‘why’.
I see a lot of comments about people wanting to know about Common Core Math even though it is being deprecated.
Here' s some ideas you should consider before believing the efficacy of Common Core math:
1 You don't have to wait for this guy to come up with videos on it. There are plenty of videos you yourself should view to become familiar with it. More on this latter.
2 A lot of complaints about the old way of teaching math seem to center around following procedures. If you think that the old way had a lot of procedures, then I suggest you look at some videos on the extensive procedural machinations of doing multiplying and dividing via common core method. Good luck with that!
3 This guy's expertise is in biology - not math. I have seen videos and its more edutainment in stating facts rather than abstract thinking. (I am sure he is a passionate educator, but he does interject subtle biases in many of his videos too).
4 I read many comments that parents want their kids to learn via common core without seeing what is taught. The complaint about the old ways was that kids simply learned procedures without answering why knowing these are important. Well, I got news for you the really interesting why question and answers does not really come into play until the basics are learned to begin with. The old method did explain why just as much as Common core supposedly tries to get across. It's more of an excuse for not thinking/reasoning in the first place. Math requires this more than any other subject.
For example, in biology kids are spoon feed facts without a lot of proofs. That's not the case with math as you must think abstractly to begin with. There is an old saying in teaching if you spoon feed kids, then the only thing they learn is the size of the spoon. Yes, math requires difficult thinking rather than simply regurgitation or memorized facts. See Daniel Kahneman book "Thinking Fast and Slow" for more information.
5 Common Core was developed/promoted by the NEA and AFT. It was really not tested for efficacy in the first place. People must understand that the educational establishment ran with what sounded good rather than what has worked in the past. There are other examples of how educators have bought into similar trendy concepts that were not backed up by empirical testing. One such example is VARK (Visual, Aural, Read/write, and Kinesthetic - sensory modalities) that was an educational concept put forth on a video by a teacher in New Zealand. It sounded good and was taken as gospel by a lot of educational schools, but it had no efficacy or testing. Educators simply accepted it and put it into practice.
6 Finally I would like to point out that there are educators in the comments who want to be trained in Common Core Math. I find this disturbing as I have little faith in teachers who cannot teach themselves a new subject. In other words, they should be the ones who know how to learn or be able to learn how to learn.
Suggest readers of my comment look into how Common Core Reading is taught via context and not the old way of phonics. Just one of many reasons kids cannot read.
It’s just standardized content at each grade and an emphasis on problem solving.
Don’t worry people, even if they call it slightly different, modern teaching will still include similar better practices, unless we regress to serfdom or something.
@@LeroyMustang Its not just standardized content and modern teaching methods DO NOT include similar better practices. Either you have not seen it in practiced or you are gaslighting people with your assertions.
Research shows Common Core has no efficacy and is a failure. They say they simply provide the objectives or end goals, but in truth when the curriculum is examined with examples you see they proscribe the most absurd content/methods of teaching subjects. It was never really tested before being pushed out there.
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