1960's Galion 503 Road Grader Restoration! Paint + Transmission Troubles! Pt.10
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This machine just keeps finding ways to throw punches at me, this time in the form of some tires welded to the rims....
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Those tires brought back memories of working at a tire shop and had to change 8-15” tires on a military low boy trailer from the 50’s that had to be original. So heavier ply than yours and only 15” and military and old so almost basically solid tires at this point. Cut the tires like you did and they wouldn’t come off of course. So ended up torching the tires near the beads. Several tanks later and much hammering got them off, saved the rims and ground about 20 lbs. of rust off each one. Besides the memories the only thing I got was $5.25 an hour, probably black lung, and arms like Popeyes 😂
Yes for Popeye arms!
Thanks for the memories, exact same thing I was thinking, heat the rims at the edges, but take them into a tire shop, you can heat them outside, then roll them in one by one and put them on the squeeze machine. Everytime you learn a lesson, you will pay a price, the schooling is never free!
Burning tires 🤔 don’t end up like the Diesel Brother’s…careful what you post. There’s a Prius owning lawyer out there watching for a mistake brother.
Nice job Matt! She looks really good! I have a bearing heating suggestion that works great. Put some oil in a coffee can and drop your bearing into it. Heat the bottom of the can with the torch. 1 - it achieves a much higher temperature on the bearing thus giving more space and 2 - less chance for damage to the bearing. Heat that oil up till its smoking a little. I think you will be surprised when you don't even need the hammer to help install it. That has been my 40 years of experience. Love your work! keep em coming!
I saw someone else use a crock pot to heat the oil. Probably takes longer but I thought it was a neat idea.
This is the method that was used at the electric motor Co. that I worked at the temp was just hotter than was comfortable and the bearings slid on dead easy.
I think squatch was doing a bearing job and used the coffee can method on a camping stove
Coffee can or an old pot with a torch or camping burner works great, just make sure the bearing isn’t sitting down on the bottom where the heat is or it can be too hot. It’s best to hang it with some wire up off the bottom
Put a wet towel around the bearing heat it in microwave oven 😲works fine
I just wanted to remind everyone that Matt has arranged for custom music to back his videos, which is such a relief to the ears from all the RUclips licensed schlock. It adds to the classiness of these stories.
Matt: "It's only six bolts"
Galion: "so you have chosen death"
FTR: the BEST bearing heater is a old decommissioned George Forman grill.
It is only crabby because of decade of neglct. Nothing make a crabby old machine smile like new bearings and bright yellow paintwork
I have used an old oven to warm bearings and preheat parts to be welded.
Now this is a burger, it has balls! Yea my bearing exploded sorry about that..
That's a good idea lol y didn't I think of that
Turning the wife's old kitchen appliances into scabby pieces of shop equipment, you say? I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Toaster oven for bearing heater, chest freezer for shaft, bearings fall into place instantly. Learned this trick setting pinion gears. Granted.. middle of the forest complicates things.. but toaster oven would be easy enough to heat all at once then just pop them on!
I'm loving watching this cursed beast come together! Makes me happy that not just my projects are dead set against me! LOL
Keep up the great work and blue collar comedy!
Great Job Matt! As for your 6 x 20 rim issue, they are popular with older school buses that run a 9.00 x 20 tire. Ford F700, F800 and Chev C60, C70 trucks used them a lot also. As a last resort, you can take the 8.25 x 20 split rim from a 10.00 x 20 tire and have a machine shop cut an inch and a quarter out of the center and weld it back together. The weld doesn't need to be air tight with tube type tire. Actually you could probably make a jig to use a plasma cutter and cut the rims yourself. A little runout isn't going to hurt you with the low speed those wheels will turn. I'm not that far from you in Elmira NY, if you need help holler. I got a shop that could cut the rims. Stan
I've been searching the comments for a good solution to his rim issue. I sure hope Matt reads this and contacts you. Regardless, thanks for offering.
That's pretty helpful.
Maybe,just maybe,after dressing her up Cnristine won't be such a difficult ol gal....
DonDIY on RUclips did just this in one of his videos and the result was excellent = ) And I would thoroughly recommend his channel as well !
@dtzman plan D as he put it actually works if you know where and how to heat the rim or beadlock up so that you do not catch the tire itself on fire done it many many times even on some damned near ANCIENT rubber tires so i could scrap the iron a little bit of heat when applied correctly will soften the rubber up just enough to break free
It takes a big man to cleanse the soul of a piece of equipment that so many other men have more or less said "screw it, leave it for dayshift" so kudos to you for being that guy. This old beast looks AWESOME.
I was thinking while you were using the loader to try to break the bead, “just burn the suckers off,” then, I see you did try it. The next meeting of, “The Swift Move,” club, save me a seat.
Great memories of the Galion Line of Construction Products!
Hey, did you know your lost twin brother is making videos about engineering? his channel is called "practical engineering".
Jokes aside, I'm glad your channel is growing so much. you deserve it, the content is great.
They are not related ? Huh
It's good to see Christine back
Woo hoo Christine is back, and you survived too. Thanks for letting us share the journey with you 👍
I've seen farmers drive over the bead of a stuck tire with a tractor - worked great for them !
Hey Matt. I live in Denmark 🇩🇰 and love watching your channel. Think it's cool you sort so many things and use them and give them another chance. Many greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰👍
is byoutfool danymark aym from Algeria 🇩🇿😅✌🏼✌🏼
Samme her. God Jul.
@@martinX74 samme herfra :-)
Helt sikkert! 🇩🇰
Same. Merry Christmas /God Jul
Christine got her party dress on. Now she just needs the accessories and she's ready for the ball. 🧚♀️💃😉
Morning guys !! here we are again drinking coffee and watching matt work lol
I love working, I can watch it for hours.... ... .. .
Christine looks FANTASTIC!!! KUDOS TO YOU AND you workmates!!!
An old deep fryer full of motor oil works great for heating bearings
Seems like a trip to a goodwill would supply enough hardware to create a bearing heater or a little single burner propane camping stove.
I want to mention that you go the extra mile in the preparation department. Most of the competition just power washes and sprays. They don't even do hardly anything at all in terms of disassembly. I'm not saying you are going all the way to sandblasting which is the ultimate. Then blast all of the sand out. Then treat it with metal prep. Then let it dry thoroughly. Then primer and then paint. Had a high end shop for 20 years and used to do restorations. Really like your channel.
Greetings from No. VT - Bearing heating suggestion. Find an electric potpourri pot at a thrift store (mine cost me 50 cents). They are like a miniature crock pot. They heat up pretty fast so if you throw an inch of clean oil in the pot, put the bearing in and plug it in while you are doing other things and you will have a nice hot bearing in 30 minutes. If you have several bearings just add more oil but it does take a little longer to heat. PS - I also use that pot to cook rusted parts with white vinegar - it has a place of honor in my workshop.
Just a very quick one, flat spanner’s are designed with the built in angle which means that if you flip them 180% before you take your next bite they will move the nut as far as possible.
From my dad a Roles Royce engineer👍👍👍👍👍
i like how the painter laughed when you said "nice"... just tell him it's all relative. it looks nice to me, and is a lot nicer than it was. i gotta say, way to be proactive on that input shaft bearing there matt! that's one of the things i like about you, you're one of the few people who use your head for more than just a place to keep your hat. why, it's almost like you know what you're doing, and have been around equipment for years. preventative maintenance is always worth ten times more than waiting to repair something when it breaks down. it can keep a $100 fix from turning into a $10,000 catastrophe.
Plus your down time. Be Proactive Keep Up the Maintenance.
Using the torch to heat the bearing works well, but let the heat soak into it for at least a minute, or minute and a half (bigger bearings are longer). It is not going to cool that quickly on its own. As the heat soaks and reaches the whole bearing, the bore will continue to grow. It is when the bearing touches cold metal (shaft) it puts a quick chill on the bearing and it shrinks quickly and the shaft grows and that is not good. That is when plan B, C, and D are done in a panic.
The wife's oven works well. Set it for 250 Degrees F and once hot, wrap the bearing up in her fine dish towels (to show it you care) to keep it warm and clean before you install it.
Terrific video. I love watching. It is kind of like being a neighbor watching over the backyard fence.
Something we always use at our shop is an old electric frying pan full of hydraulic oil. Turn the temp dial to about 250-300 degrees. Drop in the bearing and wait 5 minutes. Works better than a torch and is safer for the bearing.
Dang dang been doing that trick for years. 175 is hot enough. Cheaper than an induction heating tool. Also put the shaft in the beer fridge for a bit
I just want the old intro back secondly I think Christina learn to love you you clearly love it enough to put that work in
Love the confidence your friend had when he was painting it
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Matt perseverance pays off. Slowly but surely will have it up and running.
I was watching you struggling to get that shaft out and the old Jethro Tull song, Nothing is easy, kept running through my mind. Good job on getting old Christine ready to go to the ball 👍👏🤠
I wish I was half as smart as Matt on all these problems , great job Matt
Man your patience getting this done is awesome….I literally would’ve gone crazy by now. Lol
Too late, brother - you already crazy! :P
I’ve always been crazy but it’s kept me from going insane -Waylon
@@DieselCreek quoting Waylon .. now I know why I subbed to this channel many moons ago!
@@DieselCreek 😂true
🙄 yeah, those 'new' bearings will love you as they turn bone dry... and seal too!!!!!
My favorite RUclips Series!!!
We replaced our tires on our 503G and had to replace the rims, used 20" daytons, but you have to find the right back spacing to get the right clearance for the rim, local tire shop was able to locate the rims we needed...great videos...
I immediately pictured 20 inch wire spoked daytons, like lowrider style. My brain broke
We had to rebuild the right front hub on a Austin Western grader we once had. The front hubs were steel castings and someone was using it to push down trees with it,and busted the back of the hub. Needless to say, dad completely rebuilt the hub with sections of pipe and took the center of a bud wheel and welded it to the original wheel rim.
This is the last of the series that I have one I watched whole series very very interesting
Love to see someone saving old iron and not scrapping it BIG THUMBS UP Matt
Well, when I discovered this channel it drew my interest, (I am on several motorcycle forums, I and several other members have discussed your channel, we are all arriving at the same conclusion-see my very last sentence )and the Galion drew my attention. Finding the bad bearing/transmission troubles-well I expected surely an outcome and completion was imminent. It would appear you start 100 projects and finish 5. I am over 70, and have rebuilt electric motors, alternators anything electric - I also rebuilt large gearboxes and variable speed drives. I had an opportunity to work with SKF bearing during the VN war using helicopter bearings in large vibrators, so I worked in a motor shop and have used dry ice to shrink shafts, probably installed 10,000 bearings using an electric bearing heater-I am multi-trade--My second sentence says it all.
So the free snowblower taping blowing snow for 10 minutes doesn't make a video - I am disappointed. I think it is time to un-subscribe!
BEAUTIFUL PAINT
She certainly is living up to her name! Pretty work Matt!
HEY Good morning Matt and thumbs UP to you. I love your videos!
My Dad and I used a slide hammer on stubbern tractor tires. HD pipe with welded end cap piece. Using solid iron rod with a curved flat piece that you slid between tire and rim. This was in the 60's. I still use it on stubborn split-rim tires, lawn equipment.
You can build the HD driver but finding the solid steel rod flat and thin enough to slip between rim and tire.
Hey Matt, a tip for the bearing install to make it go even easier. Along with heating the bearing, put the shaft in a freezer or pack it in ice in a cooler. That causes the shaft to shrink about 1 thousandth for every 30 minutes on ice and with the expanded bearing diameter from the heat, it becomes more of a slip on and prevents possible damage from tapping on it.
Does that mean if I leave a 1" shaft in the freezer for 3000 hours it will disappear?
@@Adam_Lynn LOL
@@Adam_Lynn yes
@@Adam_Lynn I left a 1 inch shaft in the freezer about 6 months ago and thought someone had stolen it, nice to know what happened to it! If I unplug the fridge for 3000 hours will it grow back to its normal size?
A hotplate, an old Coffee can, and some motor oil makes a cheap very effective bearing heater.
She’s a beaut Clark.
Seriously she looks really good Matt.
That will sure look nice on a lowboy being towed by the Autocar!
Good job Man on the old Grader .
👍😁🎅🎅 Thanks ... love the grader stuff
Oh my goodness she is looking Stunning 😮 Matt she Mighty Fine @Diesel Creek
Good job Matt 👍👍👍.
I never though we would have the chance to capture a glimpse of the allusive spotted Rino on your channel.
Good morning Matt from Huron county Ontario. Love your channel and this project, keep them coming!
When I was in the military, You would see the heavy equipment mechanics run into this. The would put 2 lengths of 6 x 6 on either side. Then they would put the forks or bucket of a large loader like yous on it until both tires were off the ground. They would soak the rims with I think it was a carb cleaner. It eats at the rubber. Then they would walk away an do something else. Sooner or later they would hear a bang and then they move on the the next tire.
Saw that done at a base in Dexhiem Germany, must have had the same motor pool Sargent. Lol
The paint job does look really good! Great explanation of interference fit as well. Can't wait to see the next one!
Hyster yellow..
@@HanDekker Well, Since I work for Hyster, I can tell you that it's very close to today's Hyster yellow, but nothing like the Hyster yellow of the 60's. That had more gold in it. More like Cat yellow back then.
Ahhhhhhhh!! Just what i needed. Came home after work, felt off so i got into the rack and watched this!! That was great! Thanks!
Christine looks great, looking forward to seeing more of her restoration.
Christine looks awesome. Well done, Matt, great job.
I'm not sure I would trust those rims after they got that hot. I can't imagine that the steel is at the correct hardness / temper anymore. Could be wrong though
Split rims are simple and very dangerous. My M109 military truck has 10, changed more than a few. Do not use unless all components are in really good condition. I air my dismounted wheel/tire combo underneath the truck.
@@ericmartin5720 yep my 67 C-series dump truck I am working on has split rims which need replaced but will need air before I pull it out but I may just stick the skid loader forks in the middle of the outside rim and use a extended filler so I don't lose my arm
I've dealt with split rims, they really aren't that bad. Make sure all parts are free of debris and sound. Then just treat each one like it is going to come apart and kill you. If you do that then the worst that will ever happen is you will have to change your shorts.
Christine might end up being one of the nicest pieces on your farm. Would love to see more of your equipment get this treatment. You seriously need some tire sponsorship though for all the heavy rubber you’ll need! Maybe consider sponsor vehicle naming? “The Good Year Gallion Grader formerly known as Christine” etc.
I'm painfully familiar with lining up two spline shafts. When I bought my tractor and then a 72" finishing mower, the PTO clutch slipped badly as soon as the blades started cutting grass. I had to split the tractor transmissions and rebuild the PTO clutch. Aligning 2 separate splined shafts was a nightmare! It took 3-4 days of hoisting, jacking, twisting pushing and pulling. I took a webcam and peeled off as much plastic that I could and inserted it in the case trying to visualize the splines. It wasn't just the rotation, but the elevation of 2 shafts that had to be perfect. I'm guessing that your experience with aligning Christine's shafts will go much smoother!
had to gown a thd arm to and stand on your head just to line it up too lol my uncles told me all about it made them bad at me when over there and got it all line-up and when together easy it was a fluke or what they had to play with it and pull it apart again 3 more days they worked on this silly thing and i was on the ground laughing at them my math class was in the sheld was the drinking and smoke their pipes they did NO alcohol allowed in the house ( house rules ) finning part i don't allow any alcohol to in my house too
@@jenniferwhite6089 Yep...seems far more luck than skill. Would try till I got frustrated, quit for the day and try again the next. When it finally did bolt up, it felt like it went together smooth as silk!
With the bearings, you can also pop them into a sealed plastic bag and place them in boiling water for 10 or 15 minutes to heat up. That way you get an even heat and a known temperature.
It's sure nice to see yellow paint on the degrader! Great work. Mate
That looks pretty Micky mouse Matt colour looks great can't wait to see Christine finished and running 👍👍
I have worked with earthmovers for almost sixty years and in cases like this I would have fitted sealed bearings, especially where these are high up in the case with poor oil supply.
Thats what I thought
Bob,I agree with you 100%,sealed bearings!
Dam good solution!
Nice work Good video as always Matt 28:40 @Diesel Creek
Congrats on this major step forward. Discovering and replacing those bad bearings is a testament to your knowledge and perseverance. 👍👍
The new adventures of old Christine.
A squirt of oil on those bearings, so they wouldn't start up dry, would be a good idea. I assume you did that off camera. You're doing a good job, Matt....."keep on keeping" on !
Love the work on Christina Matt. She will work pretty well for you.
This is the clearest video I've seen great camera work really enjoyed this Thanks again!!
Very nice. Can't wait to see her back at work in her new outfit.
I love watching you putting these machines back together, Matt. There are plenty of channels out there that show the work the machine does. I watch for the teardowns, repairs & rebuilds. Especially ofctgese old machines. Keep'em coming.
Gonna be like brand spankin new Matt. I totally agree that the bearing should've been replaced while you had the power plant out. Only makes since. Good call buddy. I can only imagine the nightmare you had getting those tires off the rims. Probably, having been on there for more than half a century , Wow. If I were you, I'd go to a junk yard and wouldn't surprise me that you'll find the exact wheels/rims you will need. As a scrap metal worker worker myself I can't tell you how many of these I've seen, get hauled in for junk prices. Wish you all the best on this amazing project. Can't wait to see you doing road maintenance on your property with this Galion Road Grader. Old Christine will soon be "New Christine"...
You have brought Cristine a long ways! Good luck finding rims.
Well sir,
seeing this ole’ girl sitting in back ground in a couple of your recent videos, I could tell that you had not “rattle canned” the paint job, now we see that you didn’t..., and sub’ed it out...
Looks great...!
Thank you sir.
Those look like they might have been (here at least) split called rims. The outside bead comes apart! From what I remember, if you don't dismantle the bead you won't (easily at least) get the tire off it!
Yes, but you have to be able to slide the bead of the tire down about an inch or so in order to remove the lock ring. Since the tire bead was frozen to the rim, there was no way to remove the lock ring or the outer bead ring.
She's turning out to be a beautiful machine....she's still going to get you somehow in the end. Might need a "Caution this grader is cursed keep back x number of yards" sign if you take her anywhere
Thanks for the content. Would not miss a episode even in these trying times. you'll hit a million subs very soon! Thanks..
Woohoo reassembly!!!!.
Thanks Matt good work.
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Matt, I went through this too. The fellow who installed a highway tire on a equipment rim sealed its doom. That rim is a good quarter of a inch too big for highway tires even ruff service tires were not designed for this as they oiled the tires bead then used the air inside the tire to force over it. Short of a "lathe" to remove said carcass its never coming off. The army did use those Dayton rims for their off highway equipment and they used the 900 X 20 tire but honestly I think those rims were the "first" of that crazy .5 tire thing. Since I am not aware of the 20.5 size ever being made, those tires for off highway use would slide on like butter. A fellow who has a youtube channel called "adventures made from scratch", his name is Silas and his father started this business and then raised his son in doing this... its his sons channel. I am sure he could possibly either have or locate rims with tires maybe. I would junk all the old ones once replacements are found. I like you tried everything including a rose budd for heat. I am sure that someone has a press that could peel those off but its not those rims preticurly that we wish to see but a happy Matt "Smith" is it come driving old Christian down the road with you blowing a ooga horn... LOL, you add you own entro twist to it go over your camera... hopefully with good camber on its front end so the camera doesn't look like it came from Nancy's medical chest. I think that most youtubers get in deep on their gear trying to hit one million subscribers! .... Well maybe five hundred would be a nice goal. I know that the hub on the grader is probably different in size hence larger inside diameter of rim. Before I let it drive me crazy, I would turn those hubs someway down to use other popular rims and anyway it would look better with the nine hundred tire than the six hundred... I remember seeing seven hundred by twenty five an then the twenty inch insides tire. You always nail every video Matt
Christine is looking mighty beautiful. Awesome job Matt. Can't wait to see her finished 🔥🔥🔥💯🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏
For future reference on that new seal being half the thickness. Add a second seal to the seal surface to equal the thickness of both. When doing that add a locking material to the outside seal but nothing the inside seal. Even though today’s seals are much better than old seals they designed it with that thickness for a reason and I’ve always been taught to double them. And what further made me believe it’s a good thing to do was watching Squatch and he goes into depth as to why he also double seals areas like that
Don’t forget your pilot bearing! 👍🇺🇸
looking great well done
It's going to look awesome it is going to come out really really nice awesome
Matt, I don't know how you can have so many projects going on at the same time spread out over soooo much time. I don't think I could remember where all the things go.
I guess you can go back and watch your videos to see where things were supposed to go 🤔😉
Keep up the good job 👍👍
Catalogging.
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One tip I've learned being a commercial tire tech for the past year, drown the bead in PB Blaster(or Kroil should work) and wait a bit. Very helpful.
Good job Matt. Love the paint. Really looking forward to seeing her doing some work.
It looks great, I had the same problem with some tires in the past, I put diesel on the rim and let sit over night and they came off with some work but made it a lot easier
I can barely muster the motivation to weed wack my front yard on a good day. Much respect to your focus and determination!
Been waiting for more of this project. I think she’s going to turn out to be perfect for you Matt.
I like TuffOil which still holds the Guinness World Record for most the friction proof oil or grease. The most slippery grease is called spindle grease, I overheated an old Toyota PU
which warped the head. When the mechanic was replacing the head he called me over to see the cylindar walls which appeared to be brand-new. Over 400,000 miles with TuffOil.
Finally! After seeing her all painted up in the background, we got to see her get painted! Certainly good that you decided to check out those bearings! Yikes!
I believe the "blowtorch" you were looking for is called a Bearing Press. :)
Love your channel and I'm amazed by your knowledge and abilities!!
Hi, you really do need a decent press and some bearing pullers. May i give you a tip?please warm up bearings with another means other than a naked flame, and please make sure that the bearing surface is clean and polished to facilitate ease of assembly. You are doing a great job and I get a lot of pleasure out of listening to you and watching you overcome problems. You have my admiration for what you are doing.
Well done, again. That we can still get bearings for things 70ish years old, that alone makes it enjoyable for me to watch. So much has been scrapped over the decades that only required that 'one' part, usually made out of unobtanium. Your parts sourcing is top notch.
Hey Matt! How about posting here your parts suppliers, especially the hard to get, older parts, peoples will thank you!
In 1950 I lived in Indiana on a gravel Road 1mile over the border from Ohio. Being gravel a grader that looks like your would go by
every so often. Love to see it back in operation.
Christine is getting ready to go to the prom. She may be ready for a “road trip”. We cannot wait to see her finished. Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Can not wait till she is back together again. I may share with you my 1965 rebuilding project
Soaking tires in diesel might have been an option. Good catch on bearings. Little grease on new bearings might have been good especially at start idle no oil is slung in them. Enjoyed
Water made that rust and flows in better as is not so thick ... I work back and forth frozen pliers joints using carb/brake cleaner, followed by heavier lube as it starts to accept it. The joint only pulls what it has space for.
Diesel Creek order of tool escalation: Hammer, Pry Bar, Sawzall, Front-end Loader
When you said burning the tires off, I thought you ment taking a torch to the bead and burning it off that way. Making them the center piece of a bonfire wasn't what I had in mind..... You showed those tires whose boss!!
He cremated the bang bloody things! Just the bones left!
Nice to see Christine getting the love Matt, save some of her love for me lol, another very good video keep up the good feelings.