I've used Ramshot for years and really like it. When it first came out (made in Montana?) I bought 3 cases. So, I'm still shooting the original powder and maybe it's formulated differently now. It was so new, I called and worked up 7mm-08 loads using TAC for my daughter's rifle when we were going to Africa. It consistently shot small groups and obtained 100 fps more on the average than any other powder I tried. I just got thru using TAC in my .358 Win using 200gr Horn RN bullets. I shot a whole bunch of 5&6 shot groups. All 1/2" t 3/4" 100yds.
I used a few pounds of RamShot ZIP. Very low charge weights ( have to be wary of the double , or close squeezing a triple charge 💥) Along with very high pressures. But it always seem to go bang🤷🏻♂️
Well den,,,, I just bought a pound of X Terminator today on an impulse of the cheap price and reading that it would be suited to .222 Remington. I have not researched this powder prior to the purchase. Disappointing to see your first groups and to hear that it’s sensitive to cold temps since most of my shooting takes place in the winter. I’m gonna give it a go on .222 with 50 grain Speer PSP bullets working up to right around 3100 FPS, according to good accuracy that is, and see what happens.
“My dog at my homework”. It was windy. Barometric pressure was pulsing, full moon during the day, spiraling winds, barrel shrunk in the cold squeezing bullets into the lands. Cold warping scope...... that’s why you had flyers😂😂😂😂😂
I just loaded those projectiles for the first time, too. I have to say, they worked great near mid-way up the ladder for Tac and XBR. Even better near the top of varget.
Awesome to know. I figured they just need a little more oomph to wake up. I was starting way low to save some powder, but if it doesn't shoot then no use. Thanks!
For me CCI Magnum primers do well with the double base ball powders. But I suppose any magnum primers would do the job. Back the charge back down just a touch if you try it.
Yep, I've got a few different types I can try. I have had hang fires in 450bm using the CCI 450 magnum primers, but only at low charge weights. Seems like as the case filled up I got a better burn.
@@DummyRoundHuh, I have never had a problem with Magnum primers, I would have thought it was a weak primer strike if it didn't only happen with low charge weights. My experience with 450 primers was in a 5.56 chamber with 70 grain soft points and LeverEvolution. Got me 1/2 moa I was happy. I Have some Xterminator I was going to try with 6-1/2 primers and 55 grain. Would be interesting if I run into the same issue with consistent burn
Yoooo. Whats up. Just tried a cup of vinegar with soap and lemi in my wet tumbledoor on some 9mm the were flooded in salt water (1foot of water in my dad room swfl). Had tumble them for hours and wrote them iff as scrap. Let me tell you, it is on par with the best result I’ve seen in normal brass. I got my 1100 9mm Done this week (1000 was the goal) Also found some nickel 5.56 cases. That’s the delay in shipping 😂
A 'flyer' or 2 in every group...could that equate to variances in Berry's bullets? I use Berry's .456 230 grain (P) bullets for my 45ACP and those are pretty good shooters. I have not tried their .224 55 grain bullets. Looking forward to seeing more testing with these bullets.
I'm not sure if it's the bullets or if we just need to find the right powder charge. I'm on the way low end so going to kick it up and see if will straighten out some of those groups. If I can get both guns to shoot an inch and a half I'll be satisfied, but right now they aren't on the same page.
I've heard the small base die can extend primer pocket life if it gets low enough around the case, but I'll probably never shoot the same piece enough to know any better🤷♂️
You're not wrong but I want a load that both guns kind of like... and there's not any steel allowed at my range so I just get to see how well I can shoot at paper. I wish the other range never closed....
Probably the cheap bullets, but they're not specifically Hornady's. Using the 55gr Hodgdon data, who now owns Ramshot, they start as low as 21.2 and go to 25.9gr. I need to learn to shoot and keep testing higher with these. They seem to be "asleep" and might need kicked up a bit faster. Thanks.
I've used Ramshot for years and really like it. When it first came out (made in Montana?) I bought 3 cases. So, I'm still shooting the original powder and maybe it's formulated differently now. It was so new, I called and worked up 7mm-08 loads using TAC for my daughter's rifle when we were going to Africa. It consistently shot small groups and obtained 100 fps more on the average than any other powder I tried. I just got thru using TAC in my .358 Win using 200gr Horn RN bullets. I shot a whole bunch of 5&6 shot groups. All 1/2" t 3/4" 100yds.
I've used a little bit of TAC before and it shot pretty well. I think it was the first power I reloaded with.
I used a few pounds of RamShot ZIP. Very low charge weights ( have to be wary of the double , or close squeezing a triple charge 💥)
Along with very high pressures. But it always seem to go bang🤷🏻♂️
I've never tried Zip but that sounds like #2 or Titegroup. Easy to double charge, very low weights, etc.
Good stuff. Thanks for posting
Thank ya, sir!
Well den,,,, I just bought a pound of X Terminator today on an impulse of the cheap price and reading that it would be suited to .222 Remington. I have not researched this powder prior to the purchase. Disappointing to see your first groups and to hear that it’s sensitive to cold temps since most of my shooting takes place in the winter. I’m gonna give it a go on .222 with 50 grain Speer PSP bullets working up to right around 3100 FPS, according to good accuracy that is, and see what happens.
Yeah, pretty lack luster performance, but I probably need to kick them up in velocity. Maybe they need to "wake up"?
“My dog at my homework”. It was windy. Barometric pressure was pulsing, full moon during the day, spiraling winds, barrel shrunk in the cold squeezing bullets into the lands. Cold warping scope...... that’s why you had flyers😂😂😂😂😂
lol, You know it!
5 gal bucket 😂
Well at least I know I'm not the only one that is effected by such extreme things 😂
@@pink_love_cat4928 so many variables lol
I just loaded those projectiles for the first time, too. I have to say, they worked great near mid-way up the ladder for Tac and XBR. Even better near the top of varget.
Awesome to know. I figured they just need a little more oomph to wake up. I was starting way low to save some powder, but if it doesn't shoot then no use. Thanks!
Very nice! Have you tried the Hammond Game Getter? It uses a nail gun blank to fire swaged round balls
Thanks. I have heard of them but never used any!
For me CCI Magnum primers do well with the double base ball powders. But I suppose any magnum primers would do the job. Back the charge back down just a touch if you try it.
Yep, I've got a few different types I can try. I have had hang fires in 450bm using the CCI 450 magnum primers, but only at low charge weights. Seems like as the case filled up I got a better burn.
@@DummyRoundHuh, I have never had a problem with Magnum primers, I would have thought it was a weak primer strike if it didn't only happen with low charge weights. My experience with 450 primers was in a 5.56 chamber with 70 grain soft points and LeverEvolution. Got me 1/2 moa I was happy. I Have some Xterminator I was going to try with 6-1/2 primers and 55 grain. Would be interesting if I run into the same issue with consistent burn
Yoooo. Whats up. Just tried a cup of vinegar with soap and lemi in my wet tumbledoor on some 9mm the were flooded in salt water (1foot of water in my dad room swfl). Had tumble them for hours and wrote them iff as scrap.
Let me tell you, it is on par with the best result I’ve seen in normal brass.
I got my 1100 9mm
Done this week (1000 was the goal)
Also found some nickel 5.56 cases. That’s the delay in shipping 😂
Sweet, maybe I'll try vinegar some time. No rush, dude!
@@DummyRound i cannot post pics but it is crazy clean
I still haven't perfected my wet tumbling recipe. I never get the same output lol 😆
Hot rod em ...😎...with the A2230 I believe I'm at 24.6 if memory serves
Yep I need to work up hotter
Good job
Thanks
A 'flyer' or 2 in every group...could that equate to variances in Berry's bullets? I use Berry's .456 230 grain (P) bullets for my 45ACP and those are pretty good shooters. I have not tried their .224 55 grain bullets. Looking forward to seeing more testing with these bullets.
I'm not sure if it's the bullets or if we just need to find the right powder charge. I'm on the way low end so going to kick it up and see if will straighten out some of those groups. If I can get both guns to shoot an inch and a half I'll be satisfied, but right now they aren't on the same page.
I use mostly Accurate/ Ramshot. Always lowest grains of powder with highest chamber pressure. Usually followed by living in the higher spectrum of fps
Great tip! Saves on powder using less per shot.
For me it's Hornady 55gr Fmj with Sellior and Beloit srp, LC brass and Shooters world Ar Plus.. 25.5 grs
My bolt gun really loves a 55gr whatever with 25.6gr of AR+
@@DummyRound also .224 bullets made from fired 22lr brass and swaged into bullets works great
I've heard about those but I can't afford one of those swaging setups.
Try 23.6gr. of X-Terminator Terminator with a 55gr. At 2.2365 oal.
Noted ✅
Im thinking the AcC 2460, 2200 have been decent for groups. Many 1/2 moa @50. Have seen 3 shots sub moa @200. Do not ask me to do that again
Yep I still have to try 2015, 2200, TAC, and about 15 others lol
I was thinking at the beginning of the video my plinker is with AA2230 🤣
I do the small base too so let haters hate 😎
I've heard the small base die can extend primer pocket life if it gets low enough around the case, but I'll probably never shoot the same piece enough to know any better🤷♂️
Are the groups really gross???
I thought so, but we're on the low end and I need to test higher moving forward
Try a compressed charge with ZIP😂😂😂😂.
No jk. Don’t 💥
I don't think I want to try that one lol
I mean if you are going to shoot steel, it does the job. I would not complain
You're not wrong but I want a load that both guns kind of like... and there's not any steel allowed at my range so I just get to see how well I can shoot at paper. I wish the other range never closed....
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Excuse, it's the junk bullets. Try using Ramshot load data, 22.4grs is the starting load not what yours are.
Probably the cheap bullets, but they're not specifically Hornady's. Using the 55gr Hodgdon data, who now owns Ramshot, they start as low as 21.2 and go to 25.9gr. I need to learn to shoot and keep testing higher with these. They seem to be "asleep" and might need kicked up a bit faster. Thanks.
Geez! First using red and green powder out of season and now yer gonna exterminate rams by shootin' 'em with plinking loads! Ain't you got no sense?
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Another dude heavely influenced be " South Park "
What makes you think that? I haven't watched it in over a decade.
@@DummyRound They have awesome new episodes !