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  • @parsandahl821
    @parsandahl821 5 лет назад +992

    I asked my tribology professor about the chamfered edges today. The edges are chamfered to prevent cracking/notching them when handeled. They are also made to make the surface hardening more even, not as much stress concentration without them harsch edges.
    Love your videos, greetings from Sweden!

    • @nakedanimegirlspls
      @nakedanimegirlspls 5 лет назад +9

      Beat me to it.

    • @parsandahl821
      @parsandahl821 5 лет назад +8

      @@nakedanimegirlspls Sorry mate

    • @Elvirth24
      @Elvirth24 5 лет назад +12

      It's essentially a more technical version of why when you forge a sword, you leave the transition between blade shoulder and tang a fillet. A right angled transition leaves a stress point that could cause cracking during the heat treat.

    • @eternalfire9009
      @eternalfire9009 4 года назад +13

      Chamfering the edges also reduces contact friction, therefore heat on the gears (less surface area contact). You would be surprised the difference ot can make on gears that are heat sensitive due to speed.

    • @Gunbudder
      @Gunbudder 4 года назад +6

      I was told it just makes the gears last longer somehow, so I'm glad to get a better answer than that. I was also told it had something to do with gears thrusting, but I dont know if that is true

  • @89RASMUS
    @89RASMUS 4 года назад +73

    9:25 I've actually had to use this technique to start a mill. The fuses were to small so they blew immediately upon starting the rotation anything over 400 RPM. But by giving the spindle some speed before engaging the electric motor it was avoided. :D

    • @clairekholin6935
      @clairekholin6935 2 месяца назад +1

      Did you start it by hand, or use a different machine to start it.

  • @valveman12
    @valveman12 5 лет назад +749

    Pullstart on the mill got me big time! Tony, you are hilarious!

    • @ManuelMartinez-py1yq
      @ManuelMartinez-py1yq 5 лет назад +3

      Right?

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound 5 лет назад +20

      I was going to ask Tony if his miller is 2 stroke or 4 stroke. And, if it is a 4 stroke, does it have timing gears.

    • @aarondiller8394
      @aarondiller8394 5 лет назад +2

      I was just wondering the other day how long it would be before we saw that.

    • @bulwinkle
      @bulwinkle 5 лет назад +6

      @@jlucasound No it has a Morse chain driving an encoder. You can hear it tippity tapping away.

    • @stanwooddave9758
      @stanwooddave9758 5 лет назад +9

      You notice it took a couple of tries. Obviously TOT is using the cheap oil. Such a tight wad. Real machinist use the unatainium oil. Somebody should report him him to Abom79, or Keith Fenner.

  • @Halinspark
    @Halinspark 4 года назад +19

    I'm really loving how much of machining boils down to "This sucks, so I'm not going to do it." I've seen more shortcuts and exploits in my semester of machining classes than I have in a decade of playing video games.

  • @sethbracken
    @sethbracken 5 лет назад +386

    That shot looking straight down the centerline of the blank while the gears were being cut was great.

    • @Stefan_Van_pellicom
      @Stefan_Van_pellicom 5 лет назад +3

      I second that !

    • @mmazz30
      @mmazz30 5 лет назад +1

      Seth Bracken I third that !

    • @Scynthius137
      @Scynthius137 5 лет назад +6

      Let us go forth and get a fifth.

    • @Joe30pack
      @Joe30pack 5 лет назад +6

      @@Scynthius137 I wanted to fifth that so I just went and got some Makers Mark.

    • @michaelg_839
      @michaelg_839 5 лет назад +1

      I'll settle for 6th.
      Edit: or should that be sixth...🤔

  • @RickStewart1776
    @RickStewart1776 5 лет назад +107

    100% understood everything that was said. 0% chance I could reproduce it.

    • @jonathanhall7903
      @jonathanhall7903 5 лет назад +4

      0% i understood everything, 100% i still like it!

    • @TZerot0
      @TZerot0 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, my chance to reproduce what was talked about in this video is pretty limited.
      Owning a lathe or mill might help

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd 5 лет назад +586

    Back in medieval times, when I was king of Texas and New Mexico (it's a long story), I commanded my armorer to make a torque multiplying gear drive for a trebuchet so I could win the Punkin Chunkin trophy. He made the gears from "the bones of my enemies" and they were just too brittle to hold up under the strain. I had him executed and enslaved his family. I often reflect back on those days with remorse. I really wanted to win the Punkin Chunkin trophy,

    • @andyb4236
      @andyb4236 5 лет назад +26

      Michael Lloyd 😂 TOT, this is your fan base! Nice.

    • @mrdumbfellow927
      @mrdumbfellow927 5 лет назад +56

      Sounds like your enemies either needed more calcium in their diet, or they were little old ladies with osteoporosis................not gonna judge, I'm sure those broads at the bingo game had it coming!

    • @scotte2815
      @scotte2815 5 лет назад +10

      and who can blame you, it is the LARGEST TROPHY IN ALL OF SPORTS!

    • @MichaelLloyd
      @MichaelLloyd 5 лет назад +16

      @@mrdumbfellow927 Back then we didn't eat as well as we do now. Now we have Taco Bell, McDonalds, Burger King,,, ok not Burger King...

    • @colinpartridge4015
      @colinpartridge4015 5 лет назад +35

      Ah, his mistake was likely that he didn't chamfer the ends of the gears. Rookie mistake.

  • @MrTony3696
    @MrTony3696 5 лет назад +40

    "Why? Isnt a really valid question in the context of a home machine shop."
    -TOT
    Quote of the year? Quote of the year.

  • @chrism9191
    @chrism9191 5 лет назад +299

    This Old Tony - one of the few youtubers you can click like before watching the video and know afterwards you were right!

  • @evanponcelet5794
    @evanponcelet5794 3 года назад +1

    Love the sight gags in these videos, like starting the spindle with a rope. Classic!

  • @franksijbenga3724
    @franksijbenga3724 5 лет назад +222

    _"Why?" is not a valid question when it comes to a home machine shop._
    Hilarious.

    • @Tommy-pv1vh
      @Tommy-pv1vh 4 года назад +1

      you should ask why not

    • @Guds777
      @Guds777 4 года назад +1

      Why not is tho a valid answer...

  • @imonlyhalfnutsreally2113
    @imonlyhalfnutsreally2113 5 лет назад +119

    Tony, i always enjoy your videos and i learn something, in fact i learn lots of somethings.
    There is one gigantic problem with this arrangement. All of us viewers (im speaking for all of us, but some may disagree) need more. Im sorry to be the one to break the news BUT, You are going to have to quit your day job.
    I feel kinda bad about this because im sure your family has gotten used to eating regularly however i think your adorable son has marketable job skills.
    He needs to get a job. Now i know this may sound a little harsh but in many parts of the world he would have been working for a couple years already. He just needs to buy a lunch pail and head off to work. He has been selfish for far too long. You need to get into shop much much more often. Last i heard these videos you make do not make themselves (at least i don't think they do).Even the cat seems to do as it wishes. Rent out the cat on an hourly basis as either a mouse trap or a companion animal. If you stop hosing it down with the pest repellant it will more than likely survive all the previous sprayings and live to fight another day. I'm sure your lovely bride will feel bad as your son goes off to work with his new lunch pail and decide to pitch in for the greater good of mankind.
    I'm sure when the rest of the family is doing their part and are ALL(accept you) gainfully employed you will have at least 8 hours daily clot shop. If you include the interruptions because of lunch breaks and potty time, you may even have 9 or mors hours in the shop. I personally feel their employment is a small price to pay for our (your viewers) entertainment and enjoyment. They may not think so at first, but give it, say, three to five years. Then ask how they feel about the new arrangement.
    Deposit all the paychecks in an account that you alone control. We wouldnt want any money spent frivously, like designers clothes for the little lady or expensive underwear even. All that can be purchased at thrift stores for pennies on the dollar if you shop wisely. There is nothing wrong with second hand underwear, i personally would send it through the washing machine once or twice if it was for my wife. It doesnt have to look new as long as it's fairly clean.
    For the kids, buy the clothes a few sizes larger than they currently wear and make sure that what you buy is durable. They will grow into them as long as they get enough calories daily.
    Now you need to be careful with your wife, women can be really sneaky about clothing.
    She may say that she's put on a little weight and needs new clothes. Humbug, cut back on her caloric intake and in maybe 8-12 weeks she will fit right back into her coveralls. You have to remember that the sneakiness in females is genetic. It may seem that she does it intentionally, it is not her fault so don't punish her too severely. Maybe sending her to bed without dinher for a few weeks will train the genetics right out of her. It may take a litgle longer than a few weejs but she will come around and be thankful for it.
    I'll send along some more instructions if this doesn't work out 100 % the first go round.
    So in the mean time, please get out into the shop and make some more videos for us. We really need them.
    some folks think i'm nuts but in truth, Imonlyhalfnuts really. 😁
    seriously, thank your family for giving us so much of your time. you sir are awesome and from what i can tell, so is your great family.
    Thanks for all that you do and i hope your wife finds this at least a little amusing.
    Have a great day Sir.

    • @DevranUenal
      @DevranUenal 4 года назад +11

      Why are there no comments on that comment?
      Thanks for speaking out for all viewers.
      Today I thought exactly the same thing.

    • @ianmoone2359
      @ianmoone2359 4 года назад +2

      TL:DR 😂😂👍

    • @ffonzie
      @ffonzie 3 года назад +1

      I think I got he gist of what you’re saying but could you elaborate for some of all of us? 😉👍🏽

    • @rubiconnn
      @rubiconnn 3 года назад +6

      This was written like it could be a ToT tangent.

    • @thatoneguy4397
      @thatoneguy4397 3 года назад +1

      This man. He speaks for us.

  • @TheFridge
    @TheFridge 5 лет назад +263

    They knock the edges off the teeth to reduce the tip load on the end of the tooth, which reduces the chance of chipping. Something about more support for the end of the tip...
    Or at least that was what I was told many years ago when I was working as a gearset fitter.

    • @kennypinkerton5818
      @kennypinkerton5818 5 лет назад +15

      i would have guessed that it was so your lubricant of choice would be slung into the bottom lands of the opposing gear, but reduced chipping makes sense.

    • @amani576
      @amani576 5 лет назад +11

      That was my assumption too. Plus reduces the chance of any stress fractures on a sharp end under load.

    • @wknoxfarms
      @wknoxfarms 5 лет назад +10

      My initial thought was a gear mfg not knowing the application the end user would use the gears for, if they were placed on a shifting gearset such as transmission the chamfer would help with shifting of gearsrts. But your explanation makes more sense.

    • @DreadedOne509
      @DreadedOne509 5 лет назад +14

      So, you're saying "Just the tip"?

    • @tactition777
      @tactition777 5 лет назад +11

      Sounds right since it removes a stress riser at the points of the teeth.

  • @ego73
    @ego73 5 лет назад +10

    "Top Secret- Cogswell Cogs". Effin' hilarious! I love your references n puns.

  • @dcraig4
    @dcraig4 5 лет назад +566

    Could you go over speeds and feeds for an enemies bones? Asking for a friend.

    • @timrattenbury5321
      @timrattenbury5321 5 лет назад +6

      GTX Machine I am actually interested in that

    • @SLAUGHTYBAUDFAUST
      @SLAUGHTYBAUDFAUST 5 лет назад +41

      My old DO-All band saw has a speed chart for asbestos... I'm sure it has speed setting for enemies bones next time I'm in garage I'll take a look for you.

    • @bfries555
      @bfries555 5 лет назад +3

      GTX Machine ruclips.net/video/lpvT-Fciu-4/видео.html

    • @zooknut
      @zooknut 5 лет назад +11

      Baudfaust Babelfish, Asbestos is great on toast! Especially if it’s ground up really fine and layered on thick. I do freely give it out to enemies.

    • @Drew-in-NoDak
      @Drew-in-NoDak 5 лет назад +9

      I bought a Chinese bandsaw about a month ago and it had speed settings for asbestos.
      I guess they just dont care over there in the big rock candy mountain

  • @erikev
    @erikev 5 лет назад +11

    I don't really know much about this, but here is my guess why gears should be chamfered: Both deburring and accurate chamfering is quite important (and each tooth should actually be chamfered on all sides)
    - Sharp load bearing corners can be work hardened during use, causing breakage.
    - Sharp corners gets hardened too much during hardening process
    - If gears are to be engaged and disengaged axially, chamfering geometry is important, oterhwise:
    - higher wear
    - Assembly of gears is faster and simpler with correct chamfering geometry
    - Injury during handling
    - Less damage during transport
    - Problems clamping gears in downstream manufacturing steps. (only clamp the disk, not the teeth)
    - More noise in fast running gear
    - Post hardening processing requires chamfering to improve process and tool reliablity

  • @fartzinacan
    @fartzinacan 5 лет назад +144

    I thought putting a bevel on the gears helps them mesh together in applications where they have to engage from the side. And to help with material rolling over. For the same reason putting a bevel on a hammer helps with mushrooming.
    But I'm no machinist. I'm not even a machine. I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude.

    • @michaelandersen7535
      @michaelandersen7535 5 лет назад +11

      ruclips.net/video/CFG5dk1GyRo/видео.html

    • @another1commenter770
      @another1commenter770 5 лет назад +8

      Corner bevels and leading edge bevels assist in side meshing as stated above.
      Reduced burr formation reduction causing that may cause galling of adjacent plating or gears also as stated above.
      Corner bevels also assist in oil and debris escapement in gears walled in on both sides. Preventing hydraulic loading and the forcing of walls away from gear.
      Can reduce noise in some applications.
      Makes them look and feel way better.
      Some of these factors are not present on a lot of gear applications and as such you wont see the corner bevel on things like crown gears or 'Bevel' gears, or gears with a shank or standoff.

    • @BillGatliff
      @BillGatliff 5 лет назад +1

      @@michaelandersen7535, that was the first thing I thought of too...

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 лет назад +4

      @@another1commenter770 makes good points. In tough ductile materials, chamfers are important to prevent damage to 90 degree corners, which will raise a bruise adjacent to the ding (which, as he points out, may then damage the part in contact with it); in brittle materials, they're important to prevent chips or cracks when the gear is accidentally knocked or dropped. As other have said, these chips can migrate through the entire gearbox (they may not break off at the time of the damage) causing mayhem when they pass through the mesh or get jammed in bearings.
      These rules are true not just for gears but for machined parts generally. Also a perfect 90 degree corner is unsafe for human contact. There are other reasons, well traversed in this (typically excellent, for a ToT video and against the general "run of play" for RUclips) comments section

    • @aidanlyons1155
      @aidanlyons1155 4 года назад +2

      thewoodshed exactly, like in tony motorcycle transmission, chamfered edges help the gears mesh together on a side to side motion

  • @robsdeviceunknown
    @robsdeviceunknown 5 лет назад +60

    In all seriousness, I always considered myself pretty stupid. Math was something that always confused me. Yet machining is a dream of mine to start one day. Here recently I have been pretty down thinking I would never understand it. But I was you to know that you are the first that has managed to demonstrate something in a way that i understand it. I can't thank you enough. Gives me hope that one day I can too be a hobby machinist.

    • @sma11
      @sma11 5 лет назад +6

      Math involved to do basic machining is trigonometry, addition, subtraction, division, ratios and sometimes squares and powers. It's definitely not beyond you to learn and enjoy. I'm not gifted in the language of logic, mathematics, but I've worked hard at it. You can improve your logic by just using simple arithmetic everyday. As an example, calculate your change at the grocery store before the teller reads it to you off the screen.
      Oh, and buy a lathe , go make some stuff.

    • @foomanchewthis
      @foomanchewthis 5 лет назад +4

      FWIW, I too was inspired by TOT videos and bought a machine and tons of other stuff to go with it. Tony cost me a lot of money. 😂, but damn it’s fun!!! Next purchase... gear cutters!!!

    • @Dresdentrumpet
      @Dresdentrumpet 4 года назад

      Do it. Math is a tool just like any other tool. You will learn it when you need to apply it.

    • @zennyblades
      @zennyblades 4 года назад +2

      It is stupid how much better at math I am now that I am a machinist. Every time you cut you need some kind of math.
      If I have a 12 foot piece of A36 that needs to be cut to 10 inches I divide and add at the same time using an equation, length of stock÷(length of piece+blade thickness)=useful stock length. This tells me how much material I can actually use from a piece of stock. But first i have to convert the stock length from feet to inches. So i multiply the feet by 12 inches to get 144 inches.So 144÷(10+0.125)=144÷10.125=14.2222222222. I cant use the extra 22222s at the end because they represent what i have left on the stock so I can get 14 pieces of 10 inch part blanks per stick of A36. And the customer wants 100 pieces. So I divide 100÷14 which gives me 7.1428571429 which just means 7 full sticks and one that wont be cut up completely. Lets assume that the customer actually sent the 8 sticks I need and I dont have to tell my boss that I need one more stick because we're also out of 0.5 inch A36. NOW WE CAN CUT oh wait i have to set the stop, ok stops set at 10 inches. NOW WE CAN CUT METAL! This is just the first step in most jobs period.

    • @Dresdentrumpet
      @Dresdentrumpet 4 года назад +3

      @@zennyblades Imagine if this question was on a test and don't work with metal. You would be angry to see these numbers. But since you work with this everyday, these numbers make sense. That is what is missing in school with math, real world application. So you now are a master at converting units, you now understand rounding very well and you understand division.

  • @caffienatedchaos
    @caffienatedchaos 5 лет назад +61

    Ahh, I remember my first pull-start End Mill. I believe it was a Troy-Bilt....horrible for cutting spur gears, but worked surprisingly well on grass.
    Also, Tony, it's done to avoid breakage: The burrs along the tooth edges can often cause breakage when the gear is running, so chamfering de-burrs and extends life, not to mention avoids chipped gear teeth flying all over the joint.

  • @Mr.Fabulous-1990
    @Mr.Fabulous-1990 5 лет назад +9

    a tip for when you're cutting smaller gears (like for clocks, as I do) cut in a little bit with your parting tool. This doesn't need to be the whole depth of the tooth, just a slight, but it'll decrease the chance of the teeth getting mangled when you're parting it off after you've cut the teeth. bigger teeth usually are strong enough, and the involute gearshape helps as well, but making cycloidal teeth the base of the tooth is quite small, especially when making pinions (Z

  • @Vaasref
    @Vaasref 5 лет назад +20

    Wow, I wouldn't be able to endure having a machine without a started built-in.
    What a man.

  • @DoRiteFabrication
    @DoRiteFabrication 5 лет назад +236

    The moment of tooth...nice;)

    • @Abrikosmanden
      @Abrikosmanden 5 лет назад +1

      Aaaaah, I missed that one!

    • @NochEinKamel
      @NochEinKamel 5 лет назад

      That's the best pun in the video :D

    • @janosnagyj.9540
      @janosnagyj.9540 5 лет назад +1

      @@Abrikosmanden How could you missed it, it was even written on the screen for the deaf :)

  • @mohamaditani451
    @mohamaditani451 5 лет назад +726

    you chamfer gears because if you dont your teacher take off marks from your project...

    • @eddyerkelens
      @eddyerkelens 5 лет назад +124

      It has to do with hardened teeth: that corner is weaker (because of nog support from the side) and breaking/chipping is done easier.
      You dont want that because hardened metal between the teeth is like sand between you veggies.
      So: chamfer them to prevent breaking the end of the teeth, especially with hardened steel of not perfectly align gears.

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 5 лет назад +4

      @@eddyerkelens - Huh, I had thought it was from the requirement for gears that slide into mesh like automotive transmissions. More reasons than I knew, thanks :)

    • @andrewmalaty8
      @andrewmalaty8 5 лет назад +22

      @@somebodyelse6673 automotive transmission gears don't actually move into/out of alignment. The synchronizers between them are pushed by the forks to engage the right gear to the shaft. the bears themselves are always meshing and almost always helical.

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 5 лет назад +3

      @@andrewmalaty8 - I guess my knowledge is a little out of date. I've always thought of automotive transmissions like this. ruclips.net/video/JOLtS4VUcvQ/видео.html
      Can you tell I'm not a car guy? :)

    • @tomast9034
      @tomast9034 5 лет назад +13

      if you dont chamfer a 40mm shaft and try to put it in 40mm hole with no chanfer on the edges ......ehm well good luck :D

  • @ferrumignis
    @ferrumignis 5 лет назад +5

    The chamfer on the corners of the gears is because that is a weak area. Under load any shaft deflection can put very high loads on the corners of the teeth, and for hardened steel gears or cast iron the edges would simply break and you end up with bits of hard material passing through gears, so best to remove them from the start by putting a chamfer or radius on them. Not really a problem on aluminium or nylon gears. Finally something I learned during my apprenticeship turned out to be useful...

  • @Nemozoli
    @Nemozoli 5 лет назад +40

    A new TOT video? Just in time for coffee? How serendipitious!

  • @Dr_Xyzt
    @Dr_Xyzt 5 лет назад +12

    The bevel on the gear depends on the application. You don't always have to do it, and you can always add it later.
    1: It helps retain oil by adding surface area and changing geometry. When they're flat and tightly meshed, they foam up the oil faster. That little bevel lets surface tension do its job, and then oil on the following rotation will clean out any junk from the prior turn. Same thing for when gears are submerged where they mesh away from each other. You'd be amazed how hard it gets to turn a shaft under that kind of condition.
    2: On geartrains with lots of shock loading and harshness, like on motorcycles, the teeth chip on the corners of the tooth tips.

  • @stevespra1
    @stevespra1 5 лет назад +32

    Out of the 155,976,675,323,221.334 RUclipsrs, This Old Tony has to be the best overall.

    • @voidsp
      @voidsp 5 лет назад +2

      that .334 part is kinda scary

    • @floorpizza8074
      @floorpizza8074 5 лет назад

      @@John-ik2eg Yup, I've seen them, too. I believe he is from Wisconsin, and was a full 1.0 prior to the Polar Vortex.

    • @lightpixeldotnet
      @lightpixeldotnet 5 лет назад +1

      .334? You converted this from imperial?

  • @markmonroe7330
    @markmonroe7330 5 лет назад +2

    I really enjoy your videos. Thanks so much for sharing your time with us.

  • @russellfrancisjr.2407
    @russellfrancisjr.2407 5 лет назад +47

    Been watching for some time. What I’m happiest about all these videos is, I’m glad you use your powers for “Good”!

    • @mhe0815
      @mhe0815 5 лет назад +9

      You obviously haven't seen him digging out his machinist's voodoo dolls...

    • @johnrickard8512
      @johnrickard8512 5 лет назад

      @@mhe0815 Even then he only uses those for mischief :P

  • @Berqist
    @Berqist 5 лет назад +1

    The ToTstronaut...The genius is truly in the details.
    Also the wide view. And the editing. And font selection. Most parts, really.

  • @notsofresh8563
    @notsofresh8563 5 лет назад +17

    Two guesses on why gears are chamfered:
    1: To reduce oil flinging, without the corner the oil is more likely to fling onto the other gear.
    2: To remove a stress riser. Helps keep your gear from looking like a Hockey Player.

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 лет назад +2

      Stress risers (for everyone's information, not as a rebuke to this post) arise (ha!) from INTERNAL corners, not external ones. So the root fillet of the gear tooth moderates the stress raising tendencies at the root, but there is no such need at the tip.
      Sharp external corners are delicate by a different mechanism: because they're not well supported by the part, because they present a small cross sectional area (which *does* expose them to increased stress, but only in proportion to the area, like any contact stress) and because they're protruberant by nature and hence damage prone.

    • @StanislavG.
      @StanislavG. 5 лет назад

      I always assumed (not a good thing to do actually) the chamfer is for reducing friction

  • @goobtechgarage114
    @goobtechgarage114 3 года назад +2

    By far the most entertaining, insightful and encouraging channel on RUclips!

  • @duanelundgren7985
    @duanelundgren7985 5 лет назад +11

    I will be 74 at some vague point later this year... but I'm convinced I will be history long before I learn all the interesting stuff I want to... But you're helping my CAUSE... Thank You!!! :-) :-)

  • @Preso58
    @Preso58 5 лет назад +1

    I'm glad to see that you have embraced the simplicity of the metric system. USA vs just about all the rest of the world!

  • @WoodenWeaponry
    @WoodenWeaponry 5 лет назад +87

    I just love your videos, Tony!

  • @charleslittle458
    @charleslittle458 5 лет назад

    Best videos on the Internet. Combined with humor most will never get. Pure awsome!

  • @MrTridac
    @MrTridac 5 лет назад +46

    "Why?" is a valid question, with the equally valid answer: "Because I can!"

    • @gcewing
      @gcewing 5 лет назад +5

      A mountain climber climbs a mountain because it's there. A machinist makes a 15T M2 spur gear because it's not there.

    • @Archgeek0
      @Archgeek0 5 лет назад

      @@gcewing I saw where a gear was not, and said "This will not do."

  • @teresaellis7062
    @teresaellis7062 5 лет назад +3

    You are awesome. My son really enjoys watching your videos and I enjoy tagging along so I understand what he is talking about. :) We both can't wait until he is old enough to have his own machine shop. He is taking automotive in high school and really enjoys that class. Someday he will be able to machine his own parts.

  • @tomatosoup44
    @tomatosoup44 5 лет назад +14

    I love the smell of fresh spur gears in the morning!

  • @natepressel6747
    @natepressel6747 5 лет назад

    I work with a powertrain engineer. He says "stress strain blah blah, prevents corners from cracking, blah blah, tip load, blah. Always entertaining Tony, thanks.

  • @mattinkel7342
    @mattinkel7342 5 лет назад +303

    G'day I'm Chris.. today were gonna hand file some gears like real men.. unlike that machine tool using slacker TOT.. ;)

    • @Studio51media
      @Studio51media 5 лет назад +2

      Bwahaha! "real men" more like "real stupid" LOL

    • @zusurs
      @zusurs 5 лет назад +56

      @@Studio51media I guess you totally missed his joke, did you.

    • @buillioncubes
      @buillioncubes 5 лет назад +3

      @@zusurs Yoda?

    • @Studio51media
      @Studio51media 5 лет назад +5

      Artūrs Savickis if you’re asking, I’d like to think not only did I get it, but added to it? I’m no machinist, but I recall my dad refer to “machining” as if in theory, everything done with fancy machines could somehow be achieved by merely “filing”... so his joke about being a “real man” struck me as particularly funny

    • @index7787
      @index7787 5 лет назад +38

      @@Studio51media
      Check out "Click Spring", your welcome. Seriously, Chris is amazing and he gets referenced on this channel like every 3 videos.

  • @kevingrumbles2306
    @kevingrumbles2306 5 лет назад

    Because of these videos I now have a home made idler/reverse gear for my little lathe. When I need a left hand thread cut in ten years I'll be sure to tell everyone to thank Old Tony.

  • @rayjulien4739
    @rayjulien4739 5 лет назад +93

    Three speed band saw pusher, how interesting. I was thinking about reverse gears for my hammer...you know so it can suck the nails back out of the wood.

    • @kefeer123
      @kefeer123 5 лет назад +7

      There are already commercially available hammers with a two-teeth reverse gear.

    • @Cynyr
      @Cynyr 5 лет назад +1

      you'll only need two gears for that! :D

    • @somebodyelse6673
      @somebodyelse6673 5 лет назад +8

      I had a shop teacher tell me with a completely straight face that, if I cut too much off on a lathe pass I should put the lathe in reverse and sprinkle the chips on the work so it would weld them back on. Took me a second...

    • @matthewhall5571
      @matthewhall5571 5 лет назад +1

      somebody else that's like telling the apprentice mechanic to change the blinker fluid

    • @incubatork
      @incubatork 5 лет назад

      increase forward geer with less teeth would be best so you can blow on your thumb when you hit it with the hammer 😆😆

  • @cor_mortem2278
    @cor_mortem2278 4 месяца назад

    i really like that tony went into detail of why you need the tooth profile on the teeth to be exact, it happened about 40 years ago, but i still remember it with my 32 years of age, i tried putting a 100 tooth gear and a 5 tooth gear in my grandmas meat grinder so that she wouldn't need to be so long in the kitchen, low and behold when she tried it out i heard a loud crack and the bigger gear yanked out my tooth

  • @mcd-chaos
    @mcd-chaos 5 лет назад +21

    Back in my day all we had were those pull-start mills.

    • @rwbimbie5854
      @rwbimbie5854 5 лет назад +4

      I cant get a 2 pull start on my lathe without a shot from ether can

    • @emmajacobs5575
      @emmajacobs5575 5 лет назад +2

      @@rwbimbie5854 Ah, once you start down that road, they get to like it and won't start without the stuff

    • @bryoncase4656
      @bryoncase4656 5 лет назад +1

      If it had been a Honda mill, it would have started on the first pull.
      And yes, I know I'm repeating myself.

    • @yttag
      @yttag 5 лет назад

      Felt like I was watching Musty1 there.

    • @oldschool1993
      @oldschool1993 5 лет назад

      In India, the ones with the turban are the rope starts, the ones with the red dot are push button start.

  • @pjhalchemy
    @pjhalchemy 5 лет назад +52

    Lesson(s) learned....1. get a better rope to start the mill. 2. you can't do anything properly without a monogrammed space suit. 3. and most importantly to make proper videos you must be of the Mesmer Clan. Thanks TOTM!

    • @nickmcginley4570
      @nickmcginley4570 3 года назад

      I learned that how to make a hormone, and how to get stabbed in the gears by a machinist with a parting tool is exactly the same.

  • @Sirenhound
    @Sirenhound 5 лет назад +104

    Should I wait for the re-upload before commenting?

  • @JeremyPeterson86
    @JeremyPeterson86 5 лет назад

    Watching ThisOldTony pull-start his machines is priceless. How is this guy so creative and hilarious? How does someone even think of that?

  • @kalbotero9232
    @kalbotero9232 5 лет назад +91

    Happy New Gear 🔥♥

    • @WRW87
      @WRW87 5 лет назад +4

      allow me to show you the exit

  • @skeetabomb
    @skeetabomb 5 лет назад +4

    Absolutely LOVE your work. One of my top ten favourite RUclips channels. Been watching almost daily for the last few weeks 😀

  • @CafeenMan
    @CafeenMan 5 лет назад +13

    Tony - the reason they chamfer gears is so the end grain doesn't chip.

  • @robertgomola6819
    @robertgomola6819 5 лет назад

    @7.29 the reference to Cogswell’s Cogs (again from the Jetson’s) made me grin. I’m compelled to re-watch your other videos again to search for more of these Easter eggs.
    You certainly put a lot of effort and humor into your videos. Much appreciated.

  • @thatoldbob7956
    @thatoldbob7956 5 лет назад +9

    I just watched it, second times. It’s a great video, superbly done. I don’t have a dividing head, never even worked with one. Two gears were done by me only, during a life time, using the lathe as a shaper. I am planning to make a special gear without dividing head, most likely never will be done. Thanks again for this most enjoyable video, I can appreciate the work you put in and the excellent photography. Bob

  • @Krisszhu1990
    @Krisszhu1990 5 лет назад

    Have not touched any fabricating tool since I finished school 8 years ago, but I'm still watching every single of your vids :D

  • @chrisestill8825
    @chrisestill8825 5 лет назад +14

    While I enjoy other machining/shop based channels for colorful language and educational content, TOT weaves plots and storylines through his videos in a way that should make many Hollywood writers take note.

    • @squelchstuff
      @squelchstuff 5 лет назад +1

      TOT the movie??? I'm against it. They always ruin the story lines when it goes 'wood. The group dancing may be fun though...

    • @paulmanson253
      @paulmanson253 5 лет назад

      @@squelchstuff Esther Williams hob dancing ?

  • @oneofbillions691
    @oneofbillions691 5 лет назад

    Old Tony you need to be writing, directing, acting and editing your own big budget Hollywood movies. But on second thought, we would dearly miss your RUclips channel so please continue your brilliant work on RUclips.YOU'RE ONE OF A KIND!😁

  • @serafinmarius
    @serafinmarius 5 лет назад +5

    I'm not a machinist and i have no idea what are you doing... but i love it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @burningdieselproduction5498
    @burningdieselproduction5498 5 лет назад

    You make me wanna leave the comfort of my warm home and go to that cold shop and cut some gears... Thank you This Old Tony!

  • @darkwinter6028
    @darkwinter6028 5 лет назад +69

    Mill must be warm... didn’t even have to use any starting fluid to get it going....

    • @QQTrick1QQ
      @QQTrick1QQ 5 лет назад +9

      Doesn't need it with the choke on.

    • @PorkBarrel.
      @PorkBarrel. 5 лет назад +5

      I think this mill is fuel injected.

    • @MrZhefish
      @MrZhefish 5 лет назад +2

      @@PorkBarrel. nah, it's a hit and miss 5hp McCormick behind, no fancy injection or choke needed

    • @sleeptyper
      @sleeptyper 5 лет назад

      I have to suggest my boss to replace the old clunky wheel loader with Tony's mill. We could save so much on reduced starter fluid.

    • @denny9931
      @denny9931 5 лет назад

      I am sure its the glow plugs or it ran backwards, maybe the hinted video at 11:23 reveals how Tony fixed it! :D

  • @spblackey
    @spblackey 5 лет назад +6

    Re: teeth chamfer - first thought is to ease assembly when inserting / meshing gears. Second guess would be clearance for gear oil / grease to pass around.

  • @udowillkomm1173
    @udowillkomm1173 5 лет назад +8

    The chamfer is necessary, because it´s more aerodynamic. No need to thank us, we are here to help....

  • @trentwood1449
    @trentwood1449 4 года назад

    As a wood worker who came from a piano shop that loved nothing more than talking people's ears off about nonsense they wouldn't even begin to care about. I have to say when you cut yourself off into the next scene, shows great discipline and talent. I tip my cap.

  • @tehhamstah
    @tehhamstah 5 лет назад +22

    This raises so many more questions than it answers! For one - how did you get into Cogswell's Cogs' secret files? Are you secretly spying for Spacely Sprockets??

  • @SketchbookGuitar
    @SketchbookGuitar 5 лет назад +1

    It's now 2 weeks since I found this channel and just finished watching all your vids. I've never thought machining can be so interesting and all these while I was never interested until I watched your videos. Keep up the good work Tony I can't wait for more videos.

  • @TAREKSADEK1991
    @TAREKSADEK1991 5 лет назад +9

    U ruined me for other vid publishers... the way u approach the topic is amazing.... always looking forward for new vids .... thank you for doing this gr8 job

  • @eCitizen1
    @eCitizen1 5 лет назад +1

    Re: The CHAMFER. It will reject foreign objects better, and more importantly, protect the gears when they are ever so slightly misaligned. But I'm pretty sure you knew that! A thing of beauty. Thanks.

  • @magicphilip6880
    @magicphilip6880 5 лет назад +63

    im a simple man, i see a this old tony upload, i click like

    • @plasmahead2
      @plasmahead2 5 лет назад +6

      I wait for him to make me laugh some how. It usually takes about 20-30 seconds...
      Then he makes me laugh more so I have to unlike, and then like it again

    •  5 лет назад

      hahaaa,,,so do i

    • @clonkex
      @clonkex 5 лет назад

      stop with this meme already :|

  • @B_Van_Glorious
    @B_Van_Glorious 5 лет назад +1

    Dang Tony. I literally said out loud watching this; 'holy crap, that's some amazing filming' (the static cutting head, in particular). Your sense of cinematography is criminally undervalued. Well done, chap, well done.
    'Top Secret: Cogswell's Cogs'
    Lolololol. Brilliant.

  • @Goodwithwood69
    @Goodwithwood69 5 лет назад +8

    6 pints of Guinness in front of the fire at my local boozer, a chip butty and come home to a new This old Tony flick! A bloody good Saturday so far!

    • @googleuser859
      @googleuser859 5 лет назад +1

      Congratulations Mr Smith, that's quite an achievement.
      I can rest easy knowing what you've done today and how much you've drank. I also wish I could drink as much Guinness as you, you're so cool.

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 лет назад +1

      Fries in a bun. Only in the U.K.......

  • @shadowmancer7040
    @shadowmancer7040 5 лет назад

    I just wanted to say that, while I'm certain many of your jokes fly right over my head, the ones I do catch are very much appreciated. Entertainment that is also educational! It makes me feel less guilty for spending hours bingeing on youtube.

  • @pburch08
    @pburch08 5 лет назад +9

    I love the McMaster tip, I steal dimensions from their drawings all the time

  • @ezza88ster
    @ezza88ster 4 года назад

    Never realised engineering could be so psychadelic! Male acuity to both detail and visuals of shot looking straight down the axis of the shaft while cutting the teeth. Wow!! Thank you.

  • @andyb4236
    @andyb4236 5 лет назад +18

    You’ve really got to upgrade to the kick start. You’ll never go back.

  • @532bluepeter1
    @532bluepeter1 5 лет назад

    Dear Tony,
    Thanks to the generosity of People such as yourself who take the time to make edifying videos for the education of the great unwashed such as myself I have learned much via youtube. This was a really good and useful video mostly in my opinion of the utterly succinct explanation of dividing. Thank you very much. Yours are definitely the most humorous offerings in the engineering field too.

  • @b92555
    @b92555 5 лет назад +13

    That was a great video. Now do a worm gear. No cheating using a tap for a hob. Nice square threads. Then put it in a cute machine to show it working. Due in 30 days. Grade depends on fit and finish as well as fancy video editing. This project will be 1/2 your grade this semester.

    • @ThomCat316
      @ThomCat316 5 лет назад +1

      That's not all that hard. Make worm and hob as one piece on lathe. Remove, heat treat, reinstall. Gash wheel blank using slitting saw to provide a start for the hob. Mount wheel blank on workholder on lathe cross slide, turn on lathe, slowly feed wheel into hob until desired depth achieved. Lap on worm if desired. Part off hob. Matched worm and wheel!

    • @floorpizza8074
      @floorpizza8074 5 лет назад

      @@ThomCat316 shhhhh!!!! Don't give Tony any hints! *sigh* Now we have to make the assignment due in 15 days.

  • @DevranUenal
    @DevranUenal 4 года назад

    This is by far, the best comedy channel on RUclips!

  • @scotte2815
    @scotte2815 5 лет назад +82

    well that was a whole lot of nothing.... I have a 4 speed push stick with reverse AND self-aligning flux shifters

    • @emanonevahisey5841
      @emanonevahisey5841 5 лет назад +3

      And one day we will all upgrade to the 6 speed push stick with reverse, self-aligning flux shifters, AND gps controled gyroscopic thrust vectoring rotor system for that perfect cut every time. :-)

    • @stevenarango6319
      @stevenarango6319 5 лет назад +4

      if you think thats great my push stick is Automatic......

    • @jonathanbhampton
      @jonathanbhampton 5 лет назад +1

      Carbon " Neutral " ?

    • @phillipsofthedriver
      @phillipsofthedriver 5 лет назад +2

      @@stevenarango6319 Mine is a 13 speed forward, 3 reverse, double dry clutch robitisized sequential shift push stick. Like an auto, only better with computer control.

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 лет назад

      I use the Quadroplex from the retired B42.

  • @ryanb1874
    @ryanb1874 2 года назад

    "Of you stayed to watch the entire video, i would like to thank you, but, unfortunately that's outta the scope of this video" 😁 love it.

  • @trickyeevee8689
    @trickyeevee8689 5 лет назад +86

    0:36 did any one notice the gears on the left moveing out of frame

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller 5 лет назад +1

    Sooo my wife comes out 3 separate times to see what I was laughing about.... Love pull starting the mill.... Priceless!!!

  • @OmnieStar
    @OmnieStar 3 года назад +3

    I would think other then some technical stuff I don't know about, that the chamfer would also direct oil and what not into the groovy part of the gear... maybe.

  • @Just1GuyMetalworks
    @Just1GuyMetalworks 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for these videos, Tony. I don't have much for tools so I've been making them from scratch building up to a point where I'm gonna have to cut some bevel gears. That thing about concentricity error is golden! Honestly, there's a very high probability of failure, so I'll take every bit of info I can get lol. Thanks again! 👍😊👍

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd 5 лет назад +16

    RUclipsrs take note: this is how you make a video entertaining - stealing top secret data from cogswell , getting a custom space suit monogrammed by NASA - no one does it better .

  • @jonpardue
    @jonpardue 5 лет назад +1

    Must see video series! Thanks for making these.

  • @SuperDd40
    @SuperDd40 5 лет назад +18

    It would make for a good project/video to put a starter on that mill

    • @bryoncase4656
      @bryoncase4656 5 лет назад +4

      If it had been a Honda mill, it would have started on the first pull.

    • @SuperDd40
      @SuperDd40 5 лет назад

      Or a Stihl @@bryoncase4656

    • @sma11
      @sma11 5 лет назад

      He could just go full project farm and start it with a 1/2 cordless impact. Save your elbows for some detail hand filing, nowatimean?

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 лет назад

      In the good old days when mills were driven by waterwheels, you never needed to stop them.

    • @gravelydon7072
      @gravelydon7072 5 лет назад

      @@Gottenhimfella Even steam driven ones.

  • @kaselier1116
    @kaselier1116 5 лет назад

    I will never get tired of tonys humor.

  • @nunyabizness6734
    @nunyabizness6734 5 лет назад +3

    Just a guess on why the chamfered edge, but if the axis of rotation aren't perfectly aligned I think the force being put through the gears would be borne by the outside corners of the teeth and for hardened gears might cause them to chip. With a chamfer, even if they're not perfectly aligned, you increase the contact surface and reduce the force/area making a tooth less likely to chip/crack. Again, just a guess.
    You could test it with a set of gears with and without chamfer, misaligne them intentionally and measure the contact area with blue dye.

  • @TheOnlyPsycho
    @TheOnlyPsycho 5 лет назад

    The question "why make something yourself when you can buy it "cheap" " is the most common question of the classic consumer person who doesn't understand what it feels like to make something that you can be proud of, the joy of making it!!!

  • @mrmulken356
    @mrmulken356 5 лет назад +4

    I know everything there is to know about gears but still i just love watching your vids TOD! Keep it up!

    • @dk-bw4gk
      @dk-bw4gk 5 лет назад +14

      "I know everything there is to know about gears"
      (doesn't divulge the secret of the chamfer)

  • @entropy1454
    @entropy1454 5 лет назад

    You uploaded this video precisely at the same time I started to think about making a gearbox, how serendipitous.

  • @rg6782
    @rg6782 5 лет назад +14

    0:30 - when the gears dont want to be in the camera so they slowly slide away

  • @cybercapri
    @cybercapri 4 года назад

    When you wrapped that rope around the cutter I had no clue what you were up to. Then when you pulled to start the spindle I lost it and almost hurt myself laughing... Your killing me with Laughter and I don't even care... LOL....

  • @jesusisalive3227
    @jesusisalive3227 5 лет назад +34

    I need you to cut me some module 4 gears for my threading dial! I mean after cutting module 2 gears cutting module 4 should be twice as much fun!

    • @dansimpson6844
      @dansimpson6844 5 лет назад +7

      That is wrong! It is actually 16 times a much fun. Fun increases proportional to the square of the module number.

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman 5 лет назад +2

      If you're being serious, perhaps hit AvE up. He's got himself a 5 axis CNC for community projects, for which you submit requests by making a youtube video.

    • @jesusisalive3227
      @jesusisalive3227 5 лет назад +1

      I am very serious! Thanks for the heads up.

    • @MatthewHolevinski
      @MatthewHolevinski 5 лет назад

      @@dansimpson6844 HaHaHa, yes! sweet jesus, ToT comments are the best, haha thanks for that.

  • @thrownchance
    @thrownchance 5 лет назад +1

    The chamfer on the gears is to have less of an stiffness jump. Additionally, and maybe more important, when the the gears have not completely parallel axis, the edge is hitting the other tooth. Therefore the gear is louder and is producing shavings.

  • @frankfreeman1444
    @frankfreeman1444 5 лет назад +17

    3 gears on a push stick? Doesn't that give you a 180 degree phase shift and make it a pull stick? I'm confused.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  5 лет назад +7

      it is intended for advanced pushers.

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 лет назад

      No phase margin. If not experienced it will break into oscillations. Advanced users only.

  • @roverman985
    @roverman985 5 лет назад

    I could resist anymore. I subscribed. You way to entertaining and I love your humor.

  • @MichaelMacGyver
    @MichaelMacGyver 5 лет назад +4

    You should machine a few replacement gears for the ones used in a drill, get rid of the powdered metal or plastic ones that it comes with and give your tools an upgrade.

  • @carlbrecon
    @carlbrecon 5 лет назад +1

    chamfering the edges of the gear helps minimize debris damaging gears. the slope acts like blunt scissors instead of sharp scissors

  • @DeliciousDeBlair
    @DeliciousDeBlair 5 лет назад +5

    I joined the dollar gear club: "I can make parts all day long for just a dollar per day!"*
    *plus down time, repair costs, set up time, personal injury and scrapped parts.

  • @busterhoffmaster339
    @busterhoffmaster339 5 лет назад

    Cool (for a beginning gear cutter). Very well illustrated and narrated. Just the sort of thing that makes you happy on a rainy day in the shop. My shop does not leak.....just cold and rainy outside ;