That looks exactly like the Proline or the Baseline plastics that Lighting had in the 2000's before the owner died. Similar to the very soft and flexible runs of DX. The plastic outside of basline that had the most bleadthorugh was of softer in grip runs KC Pro or the Julina Korver Putter, the R-Pro, and last the Lighting Proline plastic due to how those can be a bit translucent in lighter weights and closer to a baseline plastic then a Star the way Pro is almost like the old Star line, a recyled Star made right before the Pro Tour discs in Star came out.
Cant wait until this is available in the seconds line. I dont like spending $20 on discs ive never handled but totally fine with $10 to check out a new disc with a new consept as well.
Congrats on the new plastic and the positive review from Erika Stinchcomb. The "Where do I start" question has been killing me when it comes to disc golf plastic. Blends and recipes are obviously a trade secret, but I was always hesitant to talk blends with my sponsor (Daredevil Discs) because I didn't know what they used or what to suggest when it came to tweaking things. I spent 5 years in Automotive Thermoplastics, but couldn't find anything on base plastics and what anyone uses. This is a huge help. Cheers
The grip was the only downside when I tested the two original Inner Cores you guys sent me for my project, and it makes me feel like you did this just for me! (I know you didn't though, lol) Can't wait to try them out! Thanks again, Trash Panda!
I made the mistake of putting a premium core in my cart and then not checking out immediately, as it sold out before I got back to it. Glad to say I didn't make that mistake twice.
Dyes can bleed through discs (including for premium plastic like K1, Tournament, and Royal Grand) but yeah, with base plastics you'll see that a lot sooner.
I really like my first run Inner Core and it's great to putt with, but grip on the TPU is really slick in the wet so I'm stoked to try these! Edit: Got mine today and I had to report back. These feel AMAZING. I didn’t like the TPU much, but I loved the mold. The baseline plastic putts so well, the perfect combination of grip, soft touch, and stiffness. Knocked it out of the park Trash Panda!
I just played my first 5 under round. Thanks in part to Trash panda, I was so focused on picking up trash that round I hardly thought about the score. Got two bags of trash of the course. Cheers. Still looking forward to the midrange, just sayin.
Yessss. The premium Inner Core is already one of my favorite discs and I've been looking to switch away from my PA-3s as my every day putter. Just ordered 5. I also told my local shop (Wright Life I'm Fort Collins) to stock your discs! Would be nice to avoid shipping when I am so close to HQ. Boom.
Jesse, my brand new Renu Disc Golf bag (that you recommended) was delivered to my doorstep just a few minutes before this video dropped. *Karma* The putter pocket is going to be filled with new baseline Inner Cores as soon as they get to my house. Throw recycled and carry recycled! Thanks!! Cheers!✌🖖👊
I love the way it feels. However it's worth noting that this putter plastic gets SUPER slick when wet, which is the opposite of what I've experienced with others. It's kind of a moot point cause I'm not putting with a wet disc tho.
I think you're really underselling calcium carbonate in this one. Obviously it's very important that it doesn't interfere with recyclability, but it's also important that it isn't hard to source relatively locally. If you needed to use 'salt of bismuth' or some other relatively rare mineral that required you to ship it's constituent parts in from some deep mining operation in Australia or Bolivia than it kind of negates a lot of the environmental benefits. But calcium carbonate isn't that. In fact, it's one of the easiest to source minerals because it's goddamn everywhere. It's chalk, it's limestone, it's seashells. If your part of the world was ever underwater for any geological scale of time, chances are it has accessible calcium carbonate. In practicum, the farthest you'll need to go to find calcium carbonate on an industrial scale is like maybe a few states. As a mineral additive, it would be hard to find a more ecologically sound one.
How confident are you guys that you’ll be able to keep these coming? Cause I bought some and I plan on keeping them as my main putter for the foreseeable future. And i don’t want to not be able to get more in the future
Does the amount of calcium carbonate in the disc offset the cost of the TPE? I know in general baseline discs cost less than premium plastic ($17 vs $22 in your case), but I’m curious if that’s actually due to cost of materials or if that’s just a supply/demand thing.
It is pretty expensive for a disc.....but I doubt the calcium is expensive at all..I'm just guessing it's pricier because of the small business aspect.
What a well executed and easily understandable explanation! I can't imagine how fun it must be to run a disc golf business Jesse. I had another idea for a disc I want to make now...a disc combined with a drone so you can throw it and then fly it!
My friend got one since he is a patreon supporter. Personally I'm a fan of the eMac judge but this still felt great in my hand and the flexibility and tack was perfect. If I were to switch putters again I'd definitely be buying some of these! Great job Jesse and the Trash Panda team!!!
Can't wait to get mine. The premium Inner Cores are so money for me now. Baseline plastic is nice for damp weather. Really interested in seeing these in action
Just got my IC in the mail today. I wonder why it makes marks when it hits chains? Kinda wish it wasn’t so soft. I’m gonna have to try to be careful. Very excited to take it into the wild! Thanks Jesse and for the cool stickers and your packaging is the best!
My local course in Colorado Springs is littered with your stickers. Please ask the people you are handing out stickers to. To only stick them on their own property.
TPE typically contains phthalates, which are extremely harmful to the environment. Plus, the code 7 it gets, means "other" and makes it fall into the same recycling category as many "other" plastics. The chances of it being recycled appear to be slim. Sure, this is still much better than no recycling code we get on all other discs on the market (which is literally insane, imho), but nots as good as TPU used for the "premium" ICs (and TPU is not environment friendly, to put it very mildly, either). IF DG wants to be sustainable (it's not even close atm), it must start promoting using the same discs for as long as possible instead of pushing the culture of disc hoarding. This is much more important than making sure the discs get a recycling code. However, I doubt this is possible. So I can't see DG becoming sustainable by itself. So I'm looking forward to regulators stepping in, even if that's not gonna change much without the community support, imho.
oh yeah i made a mistake with spelling, no one gets hut, but yeah, now BUY MY DISCS!!!!! they are recycled so yeah the earth will be saved.. hes not different than innova or trilogy. his carbon footprint is just the same. way to sidestep the real issue "mr white night"
Absolute sick man! Loved the breakdown of what goes into baseline plastic and the thought process behind creating a new one. Super rad 🤘
So stoked for the whole trash panda lineup!
Never bought something so quick. Even got a snap back while I was at it!
Super excited for you, man. Congrats!
I'd love to see a video on how that halo dye was done. It looks awesome!
Gimme gimme gimmie! I don’t care if it’s base line
Got one on the way...the premium plastic is my favorite thrower and only ace disc...can't wait to see how this beats in!
That looks exactly like the Proline or the Baseline plastics that Lighting had in the 2000's before the owner died. Similar to the very soft and flexible runs of DX. The plastic outside of basline that had the most bleadthorugh was of softer in grip runs KC Pro or the Julina Korver Putter, the R-Pro, and last the Lighting Proline plastic due to how those can be a bit translucent in lighter weights and closer to a baseline plastic then a Star the way Pro is almost like the old Star line, a recyled Star made right before the Pro Tour discs in Star came out.
Great to see an awesome pro using the discs!
Cant wait until this is available in the seconds line. I dont like spending $20 on discs ive never handled but totally fine with $10 to check out a new disc with a new consept as well.
Love the episodes where you get nerdy about plastic itself. Awesome stuff
Pearls also are nearly made of 100% calcium carbonate!!!
Neat to think of, thanks for the video as always Jesse!
Congrats on the new plastic and the positive review from Erika Stinchcomb. The "Where do I start" question has been killing me when it comes to disc golf plastic. Blends and recipes are obviously a trade secret, but I was always hesitant to talk blends with my sponsor (Daredevil Discs) because I didn't know what they used or what to suggest when it came to tweaking things. I spent 5 years in Automotive Thermoplastics, but couldn't find anything on base plastics and what anyone uses. This is a huge help. Cheers
Love this.
Bought two! Hoping to replace my current putting putters with my favorite brand!!
The grip was the only downside when I tested the two original Inner Cores you guys sent me for my project, and it makes me feel like you did this just for me! (I know you didn't though, lol)
Can't wait to try them out! Thanks again, Trash Panda!
I made the mistake of putting a premium core in my cart and then not checking out immediately, as it sold out before I got back to it. Glad to say I didn't make that mistake twice.
Holding one at the 303 Open was a treat. Definitely one of the better base plastics I've ever got to hold. Nice balance of grip/gumminess/stiffness.
Dyes can bleed through discs (including for premium plastic like K1, Tournament, and Royal Grand) but yeah, with base plastics you'll see that a lot sooner.
Erika is awesome!
I really like my first run Inner Core and it's great to putt with, but grip on the TPU is really slick in the wet so I'm stoked to try these!
Edit: Got mine today and I had to report back. These feel AMAZING. I didn’t like the TPU much, but I loved the mold. The baseline plastic putts so well, the perfect combination of grip, soft touch, and stiffness. Knocked it out of the park Trash Panda!
I just played my first 5 under round. Thanks in part to Trash panda, I was so focused on picking up trash that round I hardly thought about the score. Got two bags of trash of the course. Cheers. Still looking forward to the midrange, just sayin.
Cheers man couldn't be happier that you and your big brain are part of disc golf helping the planet one disc at a time
Glad I just ordered one :) Love your stuff Jesse
I'm pretty much done buying new discs at this point in my life. Except for your stuff. Can't wait to grab a couple of these.
Okay, I said I wasn't going to switch putting putters for the third time this year but... I may have to try this to support it!
B-b-but i JUST bought my LAST disc!!😊
Absolutely love the mission at TP. Keep up the good work!
Erika HOONK! We miss you at Westside but a Trash Panda sponsorship might be the only thing trumping it!!?
Definitely getting one
No. He doesn’t deserve for his username to be crossed out. Feed him to the wolves
This is phenomenal!
Really incredible job with these. They feel amazing.
My wallet is very upset with you for doing this, but I'm super excited about ordering them nonetheless.
🤣
@@TrashPandaDiscGolf I've received the discs and after feeling them my wallet has officially forgotten the hurt.
i live in co springs and it makes me so happy seeing trash panda stickers on poles at the course
Yessss. The premium Inner Core is already one of my favorite discs and I've been looking to switch away from my PA-3s as my every day putter. Just ordered 5.
I also told my local shop (Wright Life I'm Fort Collins) to stock your discs! Would be nice to avoid shipping when I am so close to HQ. Boom.
Here's a silly question. Does dying the disc affect the recyclability?
Insert the *TAKE MY MONEY FRY MEME* Here
Anyone else stopped the video at 5:23 to immediately order their putters? Can’t be just me.
Yup. Me too buddy!
Jesse, my brand new Renu Disc Golf bag (that you recommended) was delivered to my doorstep just a few minutes before this video dropped. *Karma* The putter pocket is going to be filled with new baseline Inner Cores as soon as they get to my house. Throw recycled and carry recycled! Thanks!! Cheers!✌🖖👊
How's the bag?
The bag is EXCELLENT. Good size, good design, good construction, looks good, carries well. Very happy with it.
Video came out 30 minutes ago. They already sold out, congrats on making a difference man
Was that intro first take🤔😂
Just bought mine. I wasn't around for your last batches. Cant wait to try it.
My wife is so AWESOME. She ordered me this and 3 new minis. I already have 2 inner-cores and love them, and I can't wait to try this new plastic.
Picked up two! Looking forward to giving them a shot at replacing my current putters 👌🏻
I love the way it feels. However it's worth noting that this putter plastic gets SUPER slick when wet, which is the opposite of what I've experienced with others. It's kind of a moot point cause I'm not putting with a wet disc tho.
I think you're really underselling calcium carbonate in this one. Obviously it's very important that it doesn't interfere with recyclability, but it's also important that it isn't hard to source relatively locally. If you needed to use 'salt of bismuth' or some other relatively rare mineral that required you to ship it's constituent parts in from some deep mining operation in Australia or Bolivia than it kind of negates a lot of the environmental benefits. But calcium carbonate isn't that. In fact, it's one of the easiest to source minerals because it's goddamn everywhere. It's chalk, it's limestone, it's seashells. If your part of the world was ever underwater for any geological scale of time, chances are it has accessible calcium carbonate. In practicum, the farthest you'll need to go to find calcium carbonate on an industrial scale is like maybe a few states. As a mineral additive, it would be hard to find a more ecologically sound one.
I believe calcium carbonate is the standard material for chalk. It's a totally natural material, love the ways you add natural materials.
Is the TPE used post consumer plastic?
Is there anyway to make discs out of a bio plastic so we can get away from regular plastics completely?
Yooooo, you look like Mac DeMarco if he was from Colorado and didn't smoke cigarettes.
I have a premium innercore, Hoping Jesse will come out with a mid-range disc soon.
How confident are you guys that you’ll be able to keep these coming? Cause I bought some and I plan on keeping them as my main putter for the foreseeable future. And i don’t want to not be able to get more in the future
Im switching putters now so im excited to pick three of these up and learn em
trash panda is, well… the best disc golf brand in the entire world
Got one. Stoked to try it on the green and off the tee!
Good to know these are officially hot goose enjoyed.
Can't wait to try em out!!
Ordered one and a seconds mini too! Cant wait to get this out there!
Any restock update on the premium plastic?
We're working on it, but it'll be a minute. You can check with our retail partners: trashpandadiscgolf.com/pages/become-a-retail-partner
I am going to dye my to look like a TUMS tablet😆
Is this pdga approved
why are there only 2 colors for your inner cores :(
Does the amount of calcium carbonate in the disc offset the cost of the TPE? I know in general baseline discs cost less than premium plastic ($17 vs $22 in your case), but I’m curious if that’s actually due to cost of materials or if that’s just a supply/demand thing.
It is pretty expensive for a disc.....but I doubt the calcium is expensive at all..I'm just guessing it's pricier because of the small business aspect.
So the Inner Core (Premium) is only 100% recycled premium plastics and the Inner Core (Baseline) is only 100% recycled base plastics. Is this correct?
Hell Yes! Trash Panda and a Goose to boot!
What a well executed and easily understandable explanation! I can't imagine how fun it must be to run a disc golf business Jesse. I had another idea for a disc I want to make now...a disc combined with a drone so you can throw it and then fly it!
Glad I grabbed one as soon as I saw that these were available. My boys and I (2nd Shot Disc Golf) are happy to support Trash Panda Discs!
My friend got one since he is a patreon supporter. Personally I'm a fan of the eMac judge but this still felt great in my hand and the flexibility and tack was perfect. If I were to switch putters again I'd definitely be buying some of these! Great job Jesse and the Trash Panda team!!!
Just ordered 4. Thank you
bringing dyeable plastic blends to the putter market space deserves a huge HONK
So stoked on this bro! Keep up the good work
Can't wait to get mine. The premium Inner Cores are so money for me now. Baseline plastic is nice for damp weather. Really interested in seeing these in action
I bought an inner core first run because I fw the vision, then i threw it and it went straight into my throwing putter slot.
Hell yeah 10 packs pls
Well now I have a day one Inner Core as well as the premium.
Awesome …How many takes did intro take we want to know 😂😂
Got two on the way!
This is awesome! Super excited for you guys.
I immediately ordered. Can’t wait to putt with these!
boost and roost
Congrats!
Ordered!
Sweet!
Honk!
Ordered
Honk
HONK
Same flight numbers?
Yes!
Just ordered 3. Let’s gooooo
Give us that middy!
Love it
Why baseline plastic if it's more complicated? I'm confused. 🤔
Just got my IC in the mail today. I wonder why it makes marks when it hits chains? Kinda wish it wasn’t so soft. I’m gonna have to try to be careful. Very excited to take it into the wild! Thanks Jesse and for the cool stickers and your packaging is the best!
My local course in Colorado Springs is littered with your stickers. Please ask the people you are handing out stickers to. To only stick them on their own property.
Hate to be that guy but wouldn’t we want baseline feel and premium performance?
TPE typically contains phthalates, which are extremely harmful to the environment. Plus, the code 7 it gets, means "other" and makes it fall into the same recycling category as many "other" plastics. The chances of it being recycled appear to be slim. Sure, this is still much better than no recycling code we get on all other discs on the market (which is literally insane, imho), but nots as good as TPU used for the "premium" ICs (and TPU is not environment friendly, to put it very mildly, either).
IF DG wants to be sustainable (it's not even close atm), it must start promoting using the same discs for as long as possible instead of pushing the culture of disc hoarding. This is much more important than making sure the discs get a recycling code. However, I doubt this is possible. So I can't see DG becoming sustainable by itself. So I'm looking forward to regulators stepping in, even if that's not gonna change much without the community support, imho.
Honk!
Hot geese doing cameo's 💯
wow look at all that plastic just waiting to go into a landfill, or pond or forest.. great job "mr.envorimentalist"
great job spelling, mr. wagon
oh yeah i made a mistake with spelling, no one gets hut, but yeah, now BUY MY DISCS!!!!! they are recycled so yeah the earth will be saved.. hes not different than innova or trilogy. his carbon footprint is just the same. way to sidestep the real issue "mr white night"