c.1928 English Electric Willans Air-Blast Injection Diesel Start and Run

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  • The Willans air-blast injection diesel starting and running at the Melbourne Steam Traction Engine Club. Only running on two cylinders as the fuel system needs further work (including some backfires from the third!). This video contains footage from two separate runs of the engine.
    This engine was built around 1928 (serial number ID219) and is rated 250 hp at 220 rpm.
    It was one of two engines that were purchased new by Carlton & United Breweries Ltd. (CUB) in Melbourne in 1928 to serve as backup generators, directly coupled to DC generators which were replaced by AC alternators in the 1930s.
    While the fate of the second engine is unknown, the first engine was replaced by a larger standby unit and stored at the Abbotsford Brewery in 1950, before it was later moved a second time and was installed at the Yorkshire Brewery in Collingwood around 1953.
    The engine continued to serve as a backup generator until the big-end conrod bearing of cylinder 2 failed in 1969. CUB decided to scrap the engine, but this fortunately did not happen, and the engine was later removed for preservation in 1982.
    In 1988, the engine was donated to the Museum of Victoria where it remained until 2010 when it was donated to the Melbourne Steam Traction Engine Club. After 12 years of extensive restoration, the engine is finally operational after more than 50 years.
    This engine is based on Rudolf Diesel's original design which was first built under licence by Willans & Robinson Ltd. in 1904. The company was acquired by English Electric in 1919 who continued to build these engines under the Willans name until the 1930s.
    This engine is the only known running example. Details here:
    www.melbournesteam.com.au/wil...
    Date recorded: 10 March 2024
    Recording equipment:
    - iPhone XR
    - Kaiser Baas S1 Gimbal
    Editing software:
    - MacBook Air M1
    - iMovie
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  • @TrevorPuls
    @TrevorPuls 29 дней назад +1

    I remember the engine well having helped to put it temporarily together last time

  • @rayg9069
    @rayg9069 Месяц назад +15

    Its old high inertia sets like this that gave our power grids resiliance and the ability to withstand shock loads

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      That's exactly what they were designed for.

    • @klemensbrumann3952
      @klemensbrumann3952 Месяц назад +1

      Ein hoch interessanter Motor
      Unverwüstlich und absolut robust,so eine Stabilität haben die heutigen Verbrennungsmotoren nicht mehr 👍👍👍👍

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      Ich stimme zu!

  • @76629online
    @76629online Месяц назад +7

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching this old girl run. I'm glad they saved it!

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      Those 12 years of restoration definitely paid off well.

  • @majie1018
    @majie1018 Месяц назад +10

    That thing needs an outdoor vent!

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +3

      It's getting one. It just hadn't been fitted yet when I filmed this.

  • @dennissells
    @dennissells Месяц назад +2

    Great to see her running Ian and Len Great job. Dennis

  • @LoganPEade
    @LoganPEade Месяц назад +6

    It appears only the cylinder on the end closest to the flywheel is actually having a combustion event. The timing of the cam lobes and rocker arm motion along with the puff of exhaust smoke and sound all line up, to me it seems the other two cylinders are basically coasting and contributing no power pulses. I'm not criticizing , I love the old machinery, it's only an observation!

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      To me, it seems like the cylinder next to the flywheel is the one that backfires a few times in the video, but I suppose it just differs from different perspectives.

  • @davidcarr2216
    @davidcarr2216 Месяц назад +2

    I just lurve the smell of diesel fumes of a mornin'.

  • @randyroberson3515
    @randyroberson3515 23 дня назад

    Love it! Sounds like it’s running on two cylinders though.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  23 дня назад

      Because it is. Fuel system is a bit dodgy.

  • @antoniorojas8460
    @antoniorojas8460 Месяц назад +2

    Besutiful engine

  • @AtanasPaunoff
    @AtanasPaunoff Месяц назад +4

    Nice beat :)

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      It was only running on two cylinders that day, but it still makes up for a cool beat.

    • @AtanasPaunoff
      @AtanasPaunoff Месяц назад

      @@Wh4tTh3H3y In this circumstances, I wonder if this engine is cappable of working on single cylinder ?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      It probably could, but it wouldn't be very powerful.

  • @GVBiggs524
    @GVBiggs524 Месяц назад +4

    Love the smell of diesel.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      Same! I can never get enough of it. 😁

  • @mk84ldb
    @mk84ldb Месяц назад +2

    I started my 77 Chevy wagon pretty much the same way

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      Gotta love a good old cold start.

  • @andygotting9152
    @andygotting9152 Месяц назад +7

    I so want this to be hooked up to a Tesla charge point.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      LOL. My favourite comment.

    • @76629online
      @76629online Месяц назад +2

      I'm an engineer in a coal-fired powerplant in the US. I also drive a Tesla. I plug it into a free charging port in the staff parking lot at the plant, less than 100 yards from the coal pile, every day. I'd be glad to send you a picture of it! Hahaha!

  • @ginolabarbera2056
    @ginolabarbera2056 29 дней назад +1

    Great old girl ! However I am interested to see the lack of proper ventilation.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  29 дней назад

      It's getting an outdoor exhaust, but it just hasn't been put in place yet.

  • @johngibson3837
    @johngibson3837 Месяц назад +1

    Lovely engine mate im surprised its not in a carport type shed or has an outdoor exhaust but then again we all die ov something, never heard of Yorkshire's brewery in Melbourne is it still around and what beers did it make, thanks for the video

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      A few things to note:
      - The outdoor exhaust hadn’t been fitted yet at the time I filmed this.
      - The Yorkshire Brewery in Collingwood is still around today and now serves as an apartment complex, but I’m not sure what beers they made back in the day.
      Thanks for watching.

  • @stephenmanning1553
    @stephenmanning1553 Месяц назад +1

    Bonus comment. I have some very rare spares, oil gauges etc. Which I may be able to help with. I live on the edge of the Western Desert of Western Australia, so if you want an engine block YOU pay the postage.

  • @randallmarquis3714
    @randallmarquis3714 Месяц назад +3

    Kinda surprised that the exhaust isnt piped outside.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      Not yet it isn't. They hadn't fitted the outdoor pipe at the time I had filmed this.

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed Месяц назад +2

    I think one cylinder is a little rich 🤠
    250hp, Amazing they make outboard motors way bigger than that these days.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      Not necessarily "rich" as it's a diesel, but rather a bit of a dodgy fuel system that needs further work.

    • @Antony_Jenner
      @Antony_Jenner Месяц назад +2

      It's all about the torque, there's a good analogy that says "it's like hitting a wall, horse power is how fast you hit it and torque is how far you push the wall back". 👍👍

    • @DavoShed
      @DavoShed Месяц назад

      @@Antony_Jenner that’s a great analog, I’ll remember that one

  • @brianlove8413
    @brianlove8413 Месяц назад

    I think there might be some of these, or similar in a decommissioned power station in Western Samoa.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      It would be interesting if that were actually the case. The Willans engine at Scoresby is the only known running example.

  • @woodhonky3890
    @woodhonky3890 Месяц назад +6

    Did they ever get it to fire on all 3?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +4

      From what I was told, the fuel system (or one of the injectors) needed some additional tweaking. It can be seen backfiring a few times in the video, which could possibly be the third cylinder firing.
      I did see earlier videos of the engine running, in which is was firing on all three, but I'm not quite sure.

    • @garyevans5335
      @garyevans5335 Месяц назад +4

      Would have been nice if the third leg had joined the party 😂

  • @raymond82807
    @raymond82807 29 дней назад +1

    Very good video! What is the RPM of an engine of this size?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  29 дней назад +1

      Maximum speed is around 220 revolutions per minute, which is what it makes its peak power at (250 horsepower).

  • @theenginemanfromthepast.
    @theenginemanfromthepast. Месяц назад +1

    I have two very similar engines. Can you tell me the bore and stroke of this engine please and thanks.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      The bore × stroke of the engine is 381 mm (15 in) × 559 mm (22 in).
      Very curious to hear about your similar engines.

    • @theenginemanfromthepast.
      @theenginemanfromthepast. Месяц назад +1

      @@Wh4tTh3H3y Thank you for your quick reply. The two I have are Built here in England. Both are Mirrlees Bickerton and Day engines.
      One is a 55hp single cylinder and the other is a 180hp 4 cylinder both are air blast injection, post first world war.

  • @jeffsnider3588
    @jeffsnider3588 Месяц назад

    How do you contain or attempt to contain lubricant with all the exposed parts - cam, rockers, crank, etc? I would think the engine would be an oily mess after a few hours.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      Open-crank engines seem to be designed in such a way that the cylinder supports catch the sump oil being flung by the crankshaft. That's just my guess, I'm no expert.

    • @jacek4628
      @jacek4628 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@Wh4tTh3H3yThe engine crankcase is closed, so the oil circulates through hydraulic lines and is distributed by the oil pump. The camshaft cams run dry here and should be lubricated from the platform by an oiler. An oiler on a steamship had to service 100 lubrication points in an hour.

    • @MrGlenferd
      @MrGlenferd Месяц назад +2

      The crankcase is not closed

    • @jacek4628
      @jacek4628 Месяц назад +1

      @@MrGlenferd But it has forced lubrication of the crankshaft.

  • @sortoftubular
    @sortoftubular Месяц назад

    I'm assuming the generator is not generating any volts yet, due to the slip rings not being shiny. Will it be operational some day? Do you know what its rated voltage is?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +2

      I'm not sure if they'll have it operational (it may possibly be beyond repair), but my guess at the output voltage would be somewhere higher than 400 V AC. The engine originally had a DC generator which is not known to survive.

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors Месяц назад +1

    What happened to the roof stack ?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      If, by that, you mean the exhaust, it hasn't been directed outside yet.

  • @AndreiTupolev
    @AndreiTupolev Месяц назад

    Have they ever thought of installing an exterior exhaust system?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      Yes they have, and they’re in the process of doing it.

  • @MrGlenferd
    @MrGlenferd Месяц назад

    Looks like one of the two cylinders that are running is rich or burning oil.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      That's probably the case, as the fuel system still needs further tweaking.

    • @keithammleter3824
      @keithammleter3824 Месяц назад +3

      It is a diesel. the term "rich" does not apply to diesels - the intake air is not throttled and so there is ALWAYS an excess of air for the amount of fuel. it is running on only 2 cylinders - there is a mechanic fault either affecting compression or preventing fuel injection on one cylinder.

  • @lorriebuxton2041
    @lorriebuxton2041 Месяц назад +1

    I want one 😂

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      So do I, but we haven't any room in the shed!

  • @isettech
    @isettech Месяц назад

    Why is it only running on 2 cylinders?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      Dodgy fuel system that requires a bit of further tweaking.

  • @markmckenna1353
    @markmckenna1353 Месяц назад +1

    running on 2?

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      Only running on two cylinders, but it backfires a few times in the video, which could be the third cylinder firing.

  • @stephenmanning1553
    @stephenmanning1553 Месяц назад

    How absolutely annoying! Lovely 3cyl EE running. HOWEVER, in the background is a 4Cyl Southern Cross BGC motor doing what???. Mine runs a 180CFM S+ compressor and is fully original and I have had the pleasure of using it for over 40 years. Might have to get the generator and starter motor fixed as I am getting too old to crank it.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад

      I don't know if that Southern Cross actually runs or not (I've never seen it run). It might as well just be a display piece.

  • @EdBenji
    @EdBenji 27 дней назад +1

    All that fk'n pollution!

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 20 дней назад

    Sounds like music to me.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  20 дней назад

      It's a nice beat in 3/4 or 6/8 time.

  • @davidfalconer8913
    @davidfalconer8913 Месяц назад +1

    This ( indoor ? ) exhaust system would make young Greta T .... ( PROUD ) ... ( ? ) ............. DAVE™🛑

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      Poor Greta would be balling her eyes out upon seeing this beast running. 😂

  • @eduardomartinellifilho7070
    @eduardomartinellifilho7070 Месяц назад

    Muito mal apresentado existem vários pontos de controle não apresentados

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      Mostrei tudo claramente visível no motor, então não vejo o que poderia ter perdido.

  • @lorenzotrevisani4421
    @lorenzotrevisani4421 Месяц назад

    Not very healthy to breath the exhaust smoke gases.

    • @Wh4tTh3H3y
      @Wh4tTh3H3y  Месяц назад +1

      I was aware of that, and that's why I waited until it cleared out before moving over to film more shots.

    • @MrGlenferd
      @MrGlenferd Месяц назад +2

      Should run the exhaust outside

    • @strobx1
      @strobx1 27 дней назад

      No worse than smoking cigarettes

  • @6Diego1Diego9
    @6Diego1Diego9 Месяц назад

    You should move on with your life. None of this matters.