Los Angeles: City of Film Noir (documentary)
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2018
- A Finnish TV rip. Since all the film titles in this documentary were in Finnish, I made title cards in English with a little help from IMDb and Google Translate.
A must see documentary for all lovers of film noir. Writers James Ellroy (The Black Dahlia, L.A Confidential) and Eddie Muller with producer Alain Silver discuss the evolution of film noir, specifically L.A. film noir. - Кино
I'm from New York, and I love Film Noir's set here, but I so prefer when they're set in LA, particularly highlighting the old Bunker Hill. The eccentricity of 1940's-'50's LA was perfect for the genre. It's amazing how a place known for sunshine and palm trees was turned into a dark, gritty, rainy place. It was done so well by these great Germanic expressionistic directors. I adore these movies and feel the '44 through '50 era is the best, the '51-'55 next best, and then modernity began to seriously water them down. I can't get into them in color. Noir means "black". Shades of black is Film Noir!
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I hear that trumpet playing and get the urge to watch "Chinatown" again.
Do it.
Time well spent.
“Forget it , Jake.”
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I had the very good fortune to meet James at a book-signing event in the 1990s.
He signed my copies of "The Big Nowhere" and "American Tabloid".
He was very polite and good humoured.
A great, great writer and a true gentleman.
Fantastic author.
I get a good vibe from him when he is being interviewed
This was great! I could listen to Ellroy all day. My favorite author.
Me too!
This is an absolutely superb documentary! Beautifully done.
The L.A. Confidential Soundtrack is fantastic. Just like the film and the book. That rare trifecta doesn't come along too often.
Outstanding documentary, captures the dark L.A. mystic that drew a lot of us hopeless romantics here to immerse in the drama around every corner. You can still experience one activity from that period where the only thing modern is people's clothing and the automobiles in the parking lot...…..Santa Anita race track. Thanks for the list of must see movies.
Grew up in Lincoln Heights and I watch these style of movies and I feel right at home.
Noir films recommended by James Ellroy and Eddie Muller:
CLASSICS
Double Indemnity
D.O.A.
Impact
Laura
The Big Combo
This Gun for Hire
The Postman Always Rings Twice
The Big Heat
The Maltese Falcon
Sunset Boulevard
Criss Cross
Out of the Past
Angel Face
Leave Her to Heaven
Crime Wave
He Walked By Night
Act of Violence
On Dangerous Ground
Odds Against Tomorrow
Crossfire
Gilda
MODERN NOIR
Chinatown
L.A. Confidential
Mullholland Drive
Thanks for this - had to screenshot, though because it won't allow text copy. Just the kind of rotten luck a down & out forgotten nobody sees staring back at himself in his morning coffee. I should have expected anything different?
I would suggest The Big Sleep for that great list.
The classics list is missing a couple of great ones, in my opinion: "Detour" and "Gun Crazy."
The Woman in the Window is a great one too.
I've read Eddie Muller's "Dark City" and it's a good book on Film Noir. You forgot to include "The Window" ( 1949) with Bobby Driscoll and "Shield For Murder" ( 1954) starring Edmund O'Brien as a corrupt cop. Your list is still excellent !👍 👍 👍 👍 Modern Noir "Blade runner" (1982)" Basic Instinct" 1992.
The Bradbury building also features heavily in the tech noir of Bladerunner.
Spot on!
a little Ellroy goes a long way...
Doesn't it? I wonder how he asks for a cup of tea?
A great documentary about a great time in cinema! It showed how human nature isn’t always good guys vs bad guys, but instead amoral, grey characters that showed the cynicism of life, men as well as women.
Best film noir cities New York city, Los Angeles and San Francisco.
Unfortnatley, a lot of the buildings that made LA "noire" were torn down in the '50s and '60s. Old Bunker Hill, where Angels Flight, the funicular, is were completely leveled to build a "modern" city center. It was probably the most noire place to ever exist.
This was just fantastic. Thank you so much. James Ellroy is an American original.
Really enjoying this....thanks so much for posting.
Damn, listening to Ellroy narrate is a cannabis high.
Ellroy's always a hoot!
He reminds me a little bit -- both physically and his mannerisms - of Hunter Thompson.
@@ericthered760 both entertaining, crazy crusties.
Thank you for posting ❤😊 Could watch this over again a few times, and will!
Yeah great documentary and Ellroy is a great writer
Omg I love you for posting this!
Thanks for uploading this interesting documentary.
Love this! Thanks so much.
Thank you. Fascinating.
LA is indeed Noire city. I can attest to it. I LIVED it. I slinked and slithered all over that city wild, drunken, loaded, awash in cash and flat broke. I don't know what I was looking for all those years. It was was exciting, I was younger...I had NOTHING to lose. It was also very dangerous. Thats all in the past now. My life is calm, quiet. These days I seek peace above all things. I've ammassed a considerable FN collection in the last several years. I still very much in a sense live vicariously through these films. The beast in a sense has been greatly subdued..however the propensity for the dark, the shadowy and forbidden is all ways there. To a greater or lesser extent it is in all of us.
Thanks for sharing your story
Very cool
Great documentary. I love James Ellroy
Thanks for uploading!
Great documentary which brings you film noir a little bit closer
This is soooo on the money.....but only for the people who hear the chaos and know how overwhelming it is.......great stuff!!!!
I dont care what anyone says - James Ellroy is a Star - And so long as he does'nt buckle withIn his 'Next 30 years ' - And inbetween him chasing those 'ladies' he use's his knowledge of the darkside of L..A.'s under belly - And he puts his well used pen to paper - I will be more than happy to buy whatever novels he writes ! - I love Noir - I read obviously - But watch the movies too ! - Mr Ellroy is the Czar of Noir
This is why I love L.A. soooo much
LA is now a shithole.
@@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2 even worse than Kamp Anawanna?
This is FANTASTIC!
Fantastico! James Ellroy is such a character. Loved it.
Thank you,,,,,love this
very special scenes love it.
I think Earl Stanly Gardner was The first to write about Las Angeles. And Hammet's stories took place in San Francisco.
In Gardner's books, Della was always the good self-sufficient wholesome woman.
Rita Hayworth. What a Babe.
Check out Rita in Gilda,1946
This is so good, thank you
Very good, I enjoyed it...thank's
2015 doc. I wish I could give it 2 thumbs up.
"Double Indemnity" did not start it all! It was "This Gun For Hire" that started it all. I love "Double Indemnity" as much as the next person, but "This Gun for Hire" (a full two years before "Double Indemnity") was the beginning of Noir as we (Americans) know it. And if you want to get really technical regarding American noir, start with "Stranger on the Third Floor", 1940, with Peter Lorre.
What about The Maltese Falcon that was made before This Gun For Hire I believe, but Double Indemnity had all the fragments that make Film Noir
Really interesting stuff!
Raymond Chandler made the noir eternal. Like a Drug addiction. A Social study of declione and human extinction. Memory of Sodom and Gomorrha.
That is not the point of Noire, Noire is not to condemn the human condition, it to show that everyone is corrupt, to question the establishment, and their real intentions, good men are crushed by the corruption that they try to fight against, bad man can hide behind a badge.
Chandler may be among the first to point that out. He deserves a place in History.
I really wish that The Black Dahlia got a better adaptation and that The Big Nowhere was also made into a movie.
No one mentioned L.A. City Hall when talking about sexual symbolism in film noir. If there was ever a phallic building design, this is it (51:21).
"It's always midnight in L.A." "The Dead Fisherman - Honeymoon For 3" sequel to Frisco The Dead Client.
Love film noirs . L A Confidential, Mulholland Dive and The Long Goodbye are awesome movies and Classic film noirs. The greatest impact of those movies is the fact, that the characters are hunted or haunted and because of that, project an immediate emotional intensity which instantly engages the viewer. That's the secret, Babes.
Don’t want to be pedantic but classic noir was roughly 1945-1958 - the movies you mentioned are neo noir.
Neo noirs
I enjoyed your docu tremendously. Also I loove femme fatales.
Excellent.
I was nine and pooped my pants in the film noir toilet
What's the music at the beginning of the documentary, please
when did this documentary come out ? for reference purposes
When soundtracks required no Autotune or Pro Tools, scripts were written for thinking people and not a single bared tit or f bomb or CGI effect was needed.
Good .Thanks.
very cool
13:27 what's that piece of music from?
I hope James Ellroy meets "That Woman", but that the Governor gives him a reprieve at the last minute.
@Ed Miller He's rich! That might help a dangerous greedy dame look at him.
Ellroy'd wave off the reprieve - and after all, he'd have script approval.
what is the music at the intro? its amazing :)
I'm wanting to know as well.
That’s The Big Combo theme song by David Raksin, 1955.
awesome
This guy sounds crazy!
What film is the clip at 32:20 from? I've racked brain and can't recall...
Act of Violence (1949)
@@charliechaplinsghost Shit! I knew it! Right before Heflin meets Astor. She was amazing in this flick, better than her performance in Maltese Falcon, in my opinion. Thanks friend! I'm watching it as we speak.
33:26 Is that Elizabeth Short (aka the Black Dahlia) standing in the car to the right of the flag, waving at a sailor?
you are correct....
This is superb . Have you ever looked at the LANoirish website?
What’s the web address?
I saw the 1980s remake of DOA.
Can anyone recommend any other high quality documentaries as good as this one?
BBC do great documentary series. The Arena series of arts documentaries on BBC and Storyville also, Horizon are the science ones. Hard to find in full on RUclips but those 3 series are high quality
Commentary 5:00-6:00 is flat out wrong as if you can separate the impact of both the depression and WWII. In fact, he contradicts himself talking about one of the many impacts of WWII which is the great watershed of american history.
Correctamundo chief....
"The only problem with making a Noir in Buenos Aires is that its too easy."
I'm 61, born in westwood, native for forty-one years. as the man said, "This is weird shit".
He is creepy and weird shit, but, it is a good production w/ creepy narrative. very noir.
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The original opening scene in Double Indemnity was Fred staring out the gas chamber but the studio didn’t like it
Read an interesting analysis that stated that Hard Boiled Detective Fiction and Noir Fiction are two seperate things but Hard Boiled Detective Fiction is sometimes defined as Noir Fiction because Hard Boiled Fiction movies are filmed in the noir STYLE??!!!
According to this video the 1941 “The Maltese Falcon” with Humphrey Bogart & Peter Lorre was not an influential noir movie? That’s strange.
I would have to disagree ,Bogart to me was the standard for every private detective to come.Black and white film allowed film noir to be the movies they were.
31:30 Bradbury Building!
NOIR CITY
baldy has some serious issues
You don't say.
MORE DRUMZ PLEASE LAS VEGAS / HOLLYWOOD YU ROCK
48:34 THE ROCKFORD FILES did it better.
Yes!!!
33.57
World War was over and men returned to the movie theaters...
if you go down hollywood and take a left on cherokee you will end up at one of the apartment buildings that betty short lived in.
Do bad Billy Wilder directed a Philip Marlowe movie.
@Ed Miller I have to admit - I can't count the number of times I sit there staring at someone's sentence, trying to dissect what they meant, or are trying to communicate. Sometimes....SOMETIMES....it's foreign writers trying to express their thoughts in English. I understand that. But a lot of times.... it is laziness. It's the inability to re-read their sentence and see if it makes sense. It's the attitude of "they'll figure out what I meant". Is this guy here saying, "It's too bad Billy Wilder directed a Philip Marlowe movie?" That's the closest I could get to anything sensible.
In those days, you could drive up to the Griffith Observatory late in the evening. You could sit on the parapet of the observation alcove and think "James Dean filmed that knife fight here. He was right here!" In the late evening in L.A. mist and low clouds come in from the ocean. The cool, damp air would smell of honeysuckle and ocean and old, wooden houses. It always got quiet at that time of night...and sitting there, the city lights below looking like an endless carpet of black velvet studded with diamonds, you seemed to notice the faint scent of perfume drifting in the air. Is it her? Did she know you'd be up here? Did she decide not to leave after all? You dare not turn around, but you can almost hear light footsteps behind you. Will you feel her arms wrap around your shoulders, her warm breath on your neck? Will that aching loneliness that seems to sum up life in Los Angeles finally be wiped away?
Three lines too long but til then ... pictures with words. Bravo.
Full disclosure: Have made that drive tho too many years late, & during daytime to boot.
PS - Was on my way from Cielo Dr to Waverly ... LA not just noir but horror ...
Edmond O'Brien King of Film Noir !! Hate that he ended up looking bad ie " The Wild Bunch" but then again so did his fellow contemporaries ! Hard living ,hard loving and just Father Fucking Time !!🖕💩😠 My favorite " Shield for Murder ",least favorite " The Hitchhiker" where he played basically a coward that even at the Only hit psycho played by Hamilton Burger from Perry Manson fame while he was " HANDCUFFED !" 🤔😤😵
Did you ever see O'Brien in "Julius Caesar" 1953? He's a coward, a bully, a snob & insincere as Casca and it's one of his best roles.
Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!
James Ellroy is a creepy guy. That man is living "Noir" everyday of his life, and it ain't pretty.
Yeah. That comment about wanting to end up on death row for a woman, and how he's tried it in the past, was pretty damn weird. I guess growing up with a father who'd leave him sitting outside a seedy bar at night didn't help his mental state much.
@@michaelspears7116 Yeah, I get why he is the way he is. It's just that spotlighting his weird fantasies felt like a weird direction for the documentary. But I guess Noir itself is kind of weird and fucked up so maybe it works idk.
Great writer. Just ask him!
@@michaelspears7116dude's mother was deleted when he was just 11 or 12, and the perpetrator was never caught. Dude lived the noir life to a tragic extent
I would have liked to get slapped by Gilda
Ren noir
Does anyone think Barbara Stanwyk was ever hot? Does nothing for me....
Lol same here
Only in the eye of the beholder .
Hip shit
I love noir, and I love Elroy's books. But I can't stand him in this. For me, it feels like Elroy is trying to hard...his dialogue is too practiced, too forced. He knows his subject, and he's sharing great information...I just don't like his delivery in this.
Sorry, but way too much analysis by uninteresting people, not enough film footage.
Agreed. There's a much better noir documentary from the late 80's that is superb. I believe its narrated by Richard Widmark.
Eddie Muller is so full of himself.
@@Scripts360, how?
L A. Today is nothing but a sewer dump.
This guy is sad
What the hell is he saying? "Kiddy noir?" What prattle. Speak up!
Man, James ellroy is pretty annoying to listen to
"viable part of the work force"? what an utter garbage take.
They manipulated the film censors and then it was a quick slide to pornographic hell. The film censors were trying to do their art a favour.