T.D.E Was Supposed to Be The Next Big Label But They Fell Off! Stunted Growth Music
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Back in the early 2010s no one would believe T.D.E by now wouldn’t be the top rap label in ip Hop. They had a roster of hungry, young and capable talent, and what made it even more special was they weren’t some gimmicky rappers surviving of one popular song, or social media plant famous for a Tik Tok dance or one hit wonder that disappeared after a failed debut album. They didn’t have to conform to suspect dance moves or overhype to sell their albums either. Around that time there was a feeling, of whenever T.D.E dropped, expect quality rap in every way, from production to the bars, to their promo was always high quality and had an air of we’re doing it our way. That’s what I think many fans liked back then. It didn’t hurt they had a rising star in Kendrick Lamar, who eventually got to a place he’s considered the best rapper in the game. Before and after losing an all time great TDE has suffered tremendously, as it seems maybe Kendrick was the shinning lights of this collective that are all pretty much stagnant at this point, causing many fans to feel TDE fell off. If they have then this has to be one of the biggest fall offs in history see how much momentum they had just a few years ago. T.D.E Was Supposed to Be The Next Big Label But They Fell Off! Stunted Growth Music
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Had potential to big the biggest crew of their era!
They were the biggest crew of their Era? Who else was bigger as a crew than them? ASAP? no OVO? no
Great video. Now please can you do Rawkus Records, my friend? You are the guy to do it.
Please do Raury next
Absolutely but when Kendrick left, TDE was not going nowhere and that's sad
How about doing Prince Johnny C, the original Geto Boys member
Kendrick carried that label. Can’t blame him for leaving and starting his own.
I think kendrick and top dog left to start kendricks new label
Kendrick didn't carry the label. 😂😂😂 Where that came from?
@shawnorjiakor
Kendrick was the biggest star on the label.
Jay Rock ain't dropped since 2018 smh Q ain't drop since 2019 Ab Soul is mid now
@@shawnorjiakorTF do you mean.. When you think of TDE You automatically think of Kendrick.. Kendrick blew up first on that label.. yes Jay Rock was there first but he ain't blow up like Kendrick did.. laughing and shit and sounding stupid.. Kendrick was TDE
Although TDE isn’t credited for their R&B talent, but SZA & SiR have released only highly acclaimed bodies of work.
TDE was once carried by Kendrick..now they are being carried by SZA...from one great to another....I can't say TDE fell off more like they are slightly underachieving.
Agreed
What do u mean underachieving, mlre than half of their artists are not the mainstream type and dont have big marketing budgets. TDE is achieving just as it should
@@9G0D I say that bkuz as a label they should have gotten more out of school boy Q, Ab soul and j rock...those guys have super star potential that probably won't ever really show.
@@ariesmarsh9847 ab soul has no radio singles, cant hold an interesting melody and raps like hes trying to be the smartest man on earth. The reason kendrick is who he is is because he knows how to dumb it down but still be real and expressive, he has hits for days and knows how to work mainstream sounds. School boy q did his mainstream grind, made his money and dipped off to raise his kids, you cant keep making good gangsta rap after you’re rich coz it isnt your reality anymore. Jay rock is not a star, entertaining rapper but just not that guy on a mainstream level
@@9G0D you might be halfway right about Q..but EVERYTHING you said about Ab soul is why they needed more out of him... he's no Kendrick but he was definitely better than how we see him..they should have worked wit him more he was dope...but as long as a label has at least ONE STAR I can't say they fell off..they didn't have a wild roster like dat to begin wit.
Had A LOT of potential. I found out about Kendrick in 2011 and have been a huge fan ever since. When I discovered kendrick I also discovered the other TDE mates and enjoyed all of their music.
It’s just because it’s a different era of rap. You gotta realize that it’s already been a decade since we had them breakout so they’re the veterans now. Kind of like how most rappers from the 90s-2000s don’t make albums anymore neither.
A black hippy album is still a highly desired projects in rap ! After all these years . Salute TDE all good things come to an end !
Not gonna happen
@@seanlamar29 I didn’t say it would happen , I said it was still highly desired , meaning allot of us still want that project !
@@Mrwilliamblast no body wants it
@@seanlamar29 ok if you say so , if they dropped black hippy they would have an insane tour with sold out arenas , but what do I know , I’ve never started a mixtape lane in Los Angeles or contributed to hip hop lmao
THANK YOU! I look at them like I do the dungeon family.... they came they went but they left an Impact!
Once again, thanks for answering my request to do this feature. TDE was destine to be the label for success. Now SZA is now the new leader of TDE (as far as current plays and album sells), thus far, and she's an R&B artist! All the TDE rappers can rap their asses off! But they just dwindled away when K-Dot left .
The problem is that everyone on the label took a big hiatus and most of them took it at the height of their career like ScHoolboy Q.
Y’all can’t say Kendrick is taking his time but then call the others lazy lol
Exactly people be confusing they damn self
At first i thought it was the label not putting out the music that we wanted but come to find out Schoolboy Q talked about how collectively K Dot, Soul, and Rock dont believe in putting out music all the time i’m guessing Top must have adopted that philosophy
they really were the last of the Mohicans when is came to record-label crews Bad boy Death Row, No limit, Ruff Ryders and Cash Money and Rockafella all carried an era and had a slew of hits.
G.O.O.D Music, TDE, Young Money and Maybach music and 1017 Brick Squad all fell because one person was carrying all the fame and glory.
What people fail to recognize is that SZA’s SOS album actually sold better than Kendrick’s final album on TDE. Not saying she is the overall bigger artist but I am talking currently her music is selling better or getting more attention. However, I’ve always questioned if Kendrick would have sold or been as big of a name as he was without becoming signed to Aftermath and Interscope. People got to remember Interscope is a machine that can push these artist to the top. Even though I feel TDE laid the groundwork for the music and content they put out. Having that major backing helped push Kendrick to the top of the charts. Without that major label support I feel he would have been like another Mos Def, Talib Kweli, or Rass Kass. However, when it comes to TDE falling off will see. I feel not having Kendrick has put that pressure on the label to have more successful artist to stand out, but only time will tell whether SZA stays with the label for another album or if she can maintain that success in the future as well as having another artist that can gravitate to a mainstream audience.
Fucking FACTS about the Interscope/Kendrick part. I've been saying the same shit for years but niggas ain't wanna listen. Glad to see I ain't alone on this 💯💯
@@misterkaywhy55 I don’t see how people don’t see it. TDE on its own strength I feel couldn’t have got Kendrick Lamar to the top spot especially back in 2012. However, if you have Interscope and Aftermath where you Dr Dre with his elite status signed and get behind an artist like Kendrick is easier to push him to the public and get him to number 1. I knew it back in 2010 or 2011 when I read that article of Dr Dre praising him and then they had that picture of him sitting court side with Dr Dre. I said they are going to sign this guy and he will be the next big artist to blow on the west coast and it was even more obvious when he got on Game’s album and they had that show when they crowned him. All they needed was that Interscope and Dr Dre signing and it was on. Then the media started creating the narrative that he was hip hop’s savior, he dropped that Control verse, and he appeared on Eminem’s album. Those key little things people ignore are what helped build Kendrick Lamar to be the top rapper in the last decade. I honestly think Kendrick is one of the most overrated rappers in the 2010’s and that’s not to say he’s a terrible artist. However, people always tend to over look the power of some of these labels and how they build up these artist.
I don’t think it’s the fact people don’t realize that, but you can’t compare that to Kendrick in his prime though. One bad album does it mean SZA was equal to Kendrick.
@@bdr113080 still overall Kendrick is the bigger artist and I know that. Believe me they still will talk about him or one of his albums. I am just saying SZA with SZA’s SOS when it comes to the album and singles is charting and selling better than Kendrick’s MMATBS. Still if we are going to look at both of their entire careers Kendrick is still the bigger artist. I just think when it comes to TDE is more the narrative being created the label is suffering because Kendrick left. However, SZA’s album did well and actually sold better than CTRL. I would say more when it comes to TDE how many more albums does SZA have obligated to them, can she maintain a top spot for future albums and will one of these other artist on the label or future artist they sign can carry the mantle as well. Plus one other thing to consider is SZA and Kendrick they are melodic artist that you can put on a hook and seems work well especially in this era. Not to mention they have the major backing. SZA has RCA and Kendrick was in Aftermath, Interscope. I think when it comes to TDE’s future they’ll have to have an artist aside from SZA who is marketable as well as a label that can help push that artist to the top. Only time will tell.
@@Motle009 Right on 💯💯 Kendrick ain't bad or anything, just overrated. And given the era that he blew up in, the first thing that came to my mind when he started being touted as "Hip-Hop's Savior" (or even back when Dr. Dre, Game, Snoop was praising homie at that show) was that it's easy to become the "king" when the only ones in the spotlight are mumble rappers, trap rappers, or mediocre pop rap niggas.
I mean, They had a decent run from 2013-2015 ish . Kendrick blew tf up, Schoolboy Q had his lil shine and time , Jay Rock had his shine and time, SZA is a superstar, Ab-Soul and Isaiah have there cult following. Time just passed them by foreal.
I agree.
T.D.E had a nice run, a good build and rooster but clearly it was a lot of moving pieces behind the scenes
Kal Banx's Boiler Room set is the most TDE-oriented performance / comradarie I've seen in a long time. He had Q, Soul, SIR, Zacarri, and Isaiah Rashad there to perform. 🔥
Really?? You think they fell off?? Nah, I think they doing pretty good bro. They had and are still having a pretty good run. So idk what you're saying here. But let me watch this video to see what you're talking about.
Kendrick carry that label, once he left, they fell off.
Quality over quantity. What you call a fall off, I call a gradual, purposed exit, at least by the Big 4. They dont wanna put out BS, they're really like a modern day Death Row the way all of them would be all over each others projects, the Black Hippy concept was genius I felt, didnt really pan out like I'd hoped, but they put out quality. As a collective and individually. I hope its years before we hear from them again.
I agree
If I'm not mistaken Sir was on that label too
Honestly if they just had a roster of:
SZA
Isaiah
Q
Ab Soul
Jay Rock
SiR
Doechii
And have them drop albums consistently, I still think TDE would be a Force in the rap game. They’re lucky now that SZA is their biggest star right now and is one of biggest artists in music right now. If it weren’t for her blowing up then I wouldn’t think TDE would last as long and might be officially broken up.
Is it laziness....or just that the label wont let them release that often. Remember, that been happening a lot with Sza. That was public...so maybe it happened with the rest too...just wasnt public. So idk.
lazy or not , alot of fans were always going to look at Kendrick as the star of the group , and the rest just there ,Nothing they can or could do about it , Once Kendrick got hot game over
…All we needed was a Black Hippy Album
I remember when GKMC came out and the whole label was on tour together we didn’t get a mixtape a compilation or nothing during that hit stove they had going on over there they just jumped on one really hot instrumental together (UENO) and that was it smfh
The tour was fire though now K Dot in arenas now
The venue was small then so it’s great to see his growth specifically
But they could have had more they had all the pieces
Are you going after Drake in this video?! 😂😂😂
The hate is real!!!
Yep, it sounds like a diss towards him.
Yeah I was like bro going hard so soon 😂💨
@@williamhooks6977drake washed. His pen and beat selection is repetitive & redundant.
@@williamhooks6977get off drake’s 🥩
SZA keeping them above water ain’t a bad look at all…. Kendrick set the bar so high it seems impossible to top what he did over there but Top Dawg ain’t fell off they just going through a transition……
SZA outselling white pop artists is kinda dope
It's sad that rappers still can't be out of the closet without losing fans.
Like Zay music chill and layback vibes but the situation put hit on him big time lol
There was a time when I actually couldn't decide who was the best out of the original 4, and that's what I liked about them. But in the end, Kendrick really did carry. TDE seems to be the type to keep their issues private, but one day one of them will be forced to speak on it publicly.
You out this together nicely I love to see ppl turn a idea into something beautiful
I always wished Nipsey & Dom Kennedy were signed with TDE 😱😢
Great video and I liked the shots at the Canadian guy at the beginning!! 😂, he’ll never be on MJ’s level.
Odd future was a group but everyone just thought it was just Tyler alone instead of everyone else.
Los Angeles ensemble groups , It was first a freestyle fellowship , then a strong arm steady , then an odd future , then a black hippy ,
Thanks! I was wondering about this label
To Jay Rocks defense, that motorcycle accident really messed him up before his last album in 2018, no telling what he’s been going through psychologically ya know? It is a shame how they were almost to the mountain 🏔️ top 🔝, and just idk let go of the rope and fell into the abyss.
My exact thoughts when he called the artists “lazy”.
@@NiniEJ right,now since jay rock has recovered, if he’s able to work and is choosing not to for any reason not related to his traumatic injury, then that’s being lazy. Anyone can be lazy, shit I get lazy lol 😂, I understand where’d stunted is coming from, cause the label has lost all its thunder, which is a damn shame.
The shots at Drake really killed me lol. Say whatever you want about Drake, but at least he stays consistent , love him or hate him. Even J Cole stays consistent. Being Consistent and having a great work ethic is key.
NO RESPECT
His quantity is consistent but NOT his QUALITY
Sade outs out an album every 12 years and sells and tours and goes homes . When you get to that level you can do it how you want
Drake been releasing hit after hit for over a decade. His place is solidified.
Drake been releasing hit after hit for over a decade. His place is solidified.
Drake been releasing hit after hit for over a decade. His place is solidified.
Good feature for Saturday JC, this is a interesting story forreal
In regards to Kendrick I believe that leaving the label was the gradual step he had to make. With his peers ( Drake & J Cole) having their own situations it was time for him to get one of his own. In regards to Jay Rock, School Boy Q and AbSoul I don't believe that your critique was entirely fair. Sure they've taken a couple of years between projects I don't believe that it's solely because of laziness. I believe that they're just trying to make sure that they're crafting good bodies of work. Jay Rock hasn't released in a while and we're waiting on him, but AbSoul dropped a classic in my opinion at the end of last year , & School boy is gearing up to drop something soon. I believe issues behind the scenes is reason for the lack of frequency between releases. When got a guy like Musa calling in to an interview to shit on an artist that can't help the morale on the Label.
School boy is making his money playing golf now. He's in a much better financially estate...
SZA took forever on her 2nd album
Now can you please do videos on Azealia Banks, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Eminem, Angel Haze, Mya, Jodeci, Hi-Five, Mint Condition, Will Smith, Trippie Redd, Lil Wop, Lil Baby, Silk, Boyz II Men, Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah, etc
the most interesting one on the list would be Azealia Banks. The rest either haven't fallen off, or just had label disputes. typical behind the music stuff.
Hi Five 🔥🔥
When Drake fell off? Bro still relevant #WingzOnaPlane
Lil Wop is currently doing porn these days.
@@WingzOnaPlane He’s starting to fall off. Trust me, I know. Had you been listening to his latest album?! Then you would know what I’m talking about
Lol 😂 Bruh What’s With The Drake Hate??
Now they got pop singers holding the label down.
Drake left Young Money?
Do Da Backwudz next
Heyy, caan you please do The Beatnuts next?? Plzzz
Accurate overall, but get off Kendrick's sac lol He became the most popular and carried the label as a result. Thats how it goes. Clearly don't remember "Black Hippie " Before the blow up. Listening to those tracks Kdot by no means "carried" that group. Also association with a massive artist on your label usually works AGAINST the other artist, unless you're featuring them, or doing different kind of music (SZA) Because casual fans will always compare them to the star player. Its the same with other labels. Take Dreamville, out of all those dope artist NONE reach mainstream success because they're in Cole's shadow. Its no one's "fault" thats just how it usually goes.
Also, can you please do a video on the OVO sweatshop! I mean, OVO label
Lol I couldn’t disagree with this video title or the video itself anymore ! TDE has not fallen off AT ALL they’re roster is still very active & relevant today . You are REACHING
He said #1 losing Kendrick
Called him... hip hop savior..😂😂
The shots at drake was well played lol
How could coming out the closet stunt your growth? They could have expanded to new markets and had a bigger audience with that information.
His fan base isn't that open minded
True, but this is hip hop and homophobia is baked into black communities unfortunately.
All good things come to an end. Kendrick carried that label on his back. No shade to jay rock, schoolboy q or ab-soul. Big bro we need one on Pro Era.
Drakes a Pop Star an industry plant, Cole and Lamar are legitimate MC's. Drake has ghost writers, his sales are great but amongst his peers talent as a MC gets no mention or respect!
I'd like to hear one on Jamal aka Mally G and/or Illegal.
Please do Stunt Growth on The Ruff Ryders.
Didn’t even know Isaiah rashad came out of the concert damn makes sense why he hasn’t been talked about lately
yeah I didnt know that
Yea, it's a video of him getting dome by a man. I saw it unfortunately. I heard its another video of him giving dome but I already seen enough
I don’t think TDE fell off, was work ethic outside of Kendrick and Jay rock lacking maybe yeah but they all Successful Individually
Do No Limit records next
Nice! Pretty Ricky next
Big#facts you hit that 1 on the nail yo
Tbh you could've left 3 out Zay didn't really make a difference and I'm a TDE fan from DAY 1, Kendrick leaving and I knew that day was coming for a long time and Q Rock and soul leaving are the factors of their growth being stunted if you really want to put a 3rd one because that's how your videos are it should be Reason, Siir and some of their signing watering down the label over Zay Rashad. Because Zay has that core fan base that's keeps them afloat, I can tell you're a casual TDE fan lol
Idk if the artists are lazy if kendrick barely gets to release what makes you think the other artists do?
If Isaiah Rashad came out before being outed, he could have had a huge rise in fame due to the LGBT movement that exploded a couple years before that incident. Cilvia Demo is a certified classic imo.
The Drake diss is priceless 😂
I just feel they were too disjointed as a label at Lamar's and SZA peaks. I thought it was a mistake not to have any Black Hippy, Reason, or Rashad features on "TPAB", "Damn", "Mr. Morale", or "SOS". You go back to other labels that dominated, Death Row, Def Jam, Cash Money, No Limit, G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath...etc they always had the rest of the crew/artists on everyone else's albums. If you weren't casual Kendrick fan you might even know what Black Hippy is.
Can we get one for EPMD
When Kendrick Lamar executive produced The Black panther soundtrack, i knew he was out of there
The only artist from that label that I listened to are K-Dot, Schoolboy Q Jay 🪨 and some of Sza. Ab Soul wasnt that pushed that hard when it came to the promotion side of things. The last artist I dont know about. Im usually liking the artists first albums like K-dot and S.B.Q and I have both. The more that an artist has been spoken about or promoted, the sooner I'll give them a chance sad to say. For example if Big L wasn't heavily spoken about I wouldn't been able to give him a chance but good thing I did! I heard K-Dot's album "M.M.A
T.B.S(2022)" on RUclips, wasn't completely feeling it. I understand that he's in a different space in his life but I was hoping that alby was balanced as his first. S.B.Q'S first album I loved it, it was also balanced but he took a long break and I've heard that it wasn't that great so I didn't bother checking it out. I will eventually. Id be surprised if T.D.E would come out with a future reunion album. I 💭 that T.D.E would be around for a long time because of this requested video update I guess not 🤷! When they first came out the label was on 🔥!
Let's not forget that Reason is also begin shelved and Hopsin and Funk Volume needs an episode
I can see him leaving TDE soon (rightfully so). He should join Dreamville, they love him there, or sign directly to a major
I’m going to be honest you saying they fell off because it’s always a big gap in between projects? They drop projects like the artist they all grew up listening too not how artists drop today back in the an artist dropping back to back years was considered dropping often
Ya wild for how you’re speaking on solo
You gotta do Wale man, he missed his opportunity years ago , had to compete with Drake Kendrick big Sean and wiz during his rise
As far as Soul is concerned he had a addiction but either way Herbert was incredible
I dont keep track of sales or nothing other than the sound of things. I still think tde is the best label out now and really like the introduction of artists like sir zacari and especially lance skiiiwalker (who nobody mentions at all for anything). I know of top holding back releases for some reason but i still see beautiful diversity and experimenation coming from tde. By 2030.. the unnamed artists of tde will be noticed at the least
Do one on chiddy bang.
Ngl my favorites were Kendrick, Q my guy fr, and Isaiah Rashad before the "outting"
Tbf, all good things come to an end and I think they’re just past their prime. I do agree that most of the artists on the label never hit their potential tho. I will say, the Isaiah Rashad point isn’t fair. He didn’t owe it to nobody to come out and people not fw him because of their “beliefs” is weak. He always made vulnerable, introspective music, so I don’t understand why be a fan then if you’re not secure enough as a man to listen to him now.
TDE is similar to an aging NFL franchise. There was once greatness there, but they didn't replenish for the future of the franchise.
Jay Rock is the hardest. K Dot is the most mainstream, when he was on the label. Sza held it down on R&B mainstream level. SchoolBoy Q was a balance of underground and mainstream. Ab Soul is underground and overrated af. Thats all I know. Their release schedules are lazy af!!!!!!!!!! Also, I cant believe Top Dawg is from Watts, with all the talent. Yet he keeps signing bs artists from other places.
AB Soul not over rated he is underrated. Come on now.
Once you said Ab was overrated, I knew you were a casual.
Ab soul is the most lyrical of them all aka most talented rapper , you can call it underground , this last project slap , you look Latina , so you speaking on rap really is a 👎🏿
Becky get yo goofy ass on I see you under all the comments hating on Kendrick and various artists 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@Mrwilliamblastshe ain't Latin bro, this a whole white girl in the comments trolling. She say dumb shit all the time about different artists 💯
They didn’t fall off they underrated if you ask me
Loved black hippy
TDE, RVDER CLVN, OF and A$AP MOB were moving us in a positive direction and then the SoundCloud wave happend. 😒
Man slid that Drake shade right on in there didn’t he. 😂
How about a Stunted Growth on Luke Records or Slip-N-Slide Records?
the subliminal shots at Drizzy lol
JC I seen that at 1:37 😂😂
Kendrick was the one who kept tde afloat and reason why the label is still around
The Drake slander was unexpected and had me dead lmfao!
I use to slap Zay Wop music, but bruh on some gay shit… I can’t do it no more smh
Its like they just stopped putting out music 😅
I think top and punch did a good job , let’s express a fact , no Los Angeles rapper had ever gone platinum without a dr.Dre stamp until YG, and it took years for that album to do it because of jezzy helping in the south
A hip hop super group for sure
Cella Dwellas bro 😎
They didn’t just create a good rapper they created arguably the best artist of his era (drake has sold more of course ) but Kendrick is the better rapper and artist ! So that’s like the lakers with Kobe at the end , not a great squad but when you have an all time great the rest really don’t matter , but school boy q went platinum, so that’s a success , ab-souls recent project was well received . Jay rock had a horrid motorcycle accident stopped allot of his progress . And SZA became a bonafide star ⭐️. What more do you want . G dep wasn’t a star, black rob not a star , Craig Mack not a star , mase and biggie 2 stars , the lox weren’t even major stars until recently , so puff and bad boy had like 25 years , and still on 2 stars , TDE has done well as a flagship rap label for the west coast ! It’s not stunted growth at all, they had a great run , and with dropping a few artists and signing some new talent they could do well again . Seems you go hard on the negative for all the west coast artist even if they did well
Never getting a group album will be one of hip hops greatest what ifs. That, crs, and the commission are my top 3 what ifs…add big L on roca fella
Became old-fashioned the way it was ran
It's sad to hear these facts about them smh, everybody in the crew was dope. Maybe they knew it and got too comfortable 🤷🏿♂️
From Top and Punch not really pushing Soulo and Rock like they should’ve especially after their Control System and 90059, respectively. They did good with R&B side but sadly they placed too much of the weight for Kendrick to carry.
TDE didn't fall off just not achieving what we know they can
wish they wouldve dropped a black hippy album