Why The Lexus GS Failed
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- The Lexus GS is no longer in production. The GS Lasted from 1993-2020 but ultimately failed due to the reasons I share in the video. I have reviewed several Lexus GS models, links below: GS 300 Review: • 2004 Lexus GS300 Revie... GS 350 F Sport Review: • 2015 Lexus GS 350 F Sp...
What made the Lexus GS so special for many years was its rear-wheel-drive dynamics coupled with the legendary Lexus reliability. The GS is highly coveted in the used car market, but Lexus may revive the GS in the future. Also, see my 250k mile review on a GS 350: • 2013 Lexus GS 350....2...
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See some of my GS reviews below, but also let me know your thoughts on the GS, is it coming back?
GS 300 Review: ruclips.net/video/-YUi85CH1qs/видео.html
GS 350 F Sport Review: ruclips.net/video/oibJfJ3gBE0/видео.html
Debating between a 2018 Lexus GS350 F sport and Audi S5 sport back what’s ya thoughts
@@gabrielperez5426 i have a 2014 gs350 but my dream car is a 2016-2018 Audi A7/S7
@@MrMustangrick Lexus is a mindless profit machine now
GS -F an awesome car
They should of kept the GS,and ditched theES 350,it is wack and slow,only Lexus i do not like,these car manufacturers are getting dumb with cars nowadays smh
The people failed not the GS
Haha that's another way to put it
I agree,this car will be very sort after in a few years,and you won't be able to get one and they will go up in value.
Lexus is ahead of the game it's gonna take another 10 years before people realise what they've produced.
Same happen with the:
Isf
Aristo
Supra
Crown
Chaser
Skyline
Stagea
Actually the reason why Lexus is so sought after used is because they are BEHIND the times. That basic nature is what makes them so reliable and never over engineered. That's one of the reasons why people jerk off to German cars since they are always the latest and greatest
@@garlicnaan1 lexus a head of the game ?,? 🤡 take 10 year to upgrade :( German car are always the latest tech best in perfomer that most people want let say LFA have good sound but perfomer:( is sad German car are hell fast.
Lexus is only only reliable becuase way to behind everyone literal way to behind. If they put more tech and more performer I can say is the best brand just give to the costume reliable isn’t make a sales
@@calindor19 reliability is a bad thing for you I wouldn’t care about no badge that’s for people who got low self esteem
I own a low-miles 2015 GS350 AWD and absolutely love it. I've owned a Corvette, 3 Porsches, and other sports cars.....but this car kicks ass, takes names and addresses. All the while it's incredibly comfortable. It'll throw you back in the seat when you need to, but it will pamper you as well. I'll keep this car until or unless it falls apart. I happen to make a handsome living but don't kid yourself; reliability is HUGE with me. Lexus, like Toyota, won't leave you stranded on the side of the road. Ending the GS is a major mistake for Lexus.
I like your philosophy! If you're financially comfortable, you can't go wrong with a Lexus or Porsche.
Thts right..really reliable and gets up and moves when you punch it..not too mention the comfort ..
Can you hire me? I’m trying to be like you
Don’t kid yourself, I’m sure Lexus knows better than you. This is becoming more of an enthusiast car, not a mainstream car. Lexus is a business in the end of the day, they need to make money. This is a fantastic financial decision for them, relax old man 😂
@@vee6411 Pound sand, kid.
When I see the Lexus badge I think of a smart person.
I still see Lexus from the 90s and 00s on the road driving perfectly. Don't see bmws from that era.
I do but they def need some constant TLC lol
Exhaust Sports Auto 😂
Local used car dealer won't sell BMW or Merc without an aftermarket warranty, and a talk with the buyer. He cares about his reputation. He said he honestly never had any issues with a GS /IS/ES/LS. Usually they have a good maintenance history and every customer is very happy and sends other business. He said there are small things like tire pressure sensors, brake rotors, or maybe minor cosmetic issues. Never engine or powertrain problems.
Thank you Victor Bravo
Cool. I’m a smart person.. Lexus is300h with mark levinson heated and cooled seat 40 mpg around town.. that’s me 👍
I love the gs. Such a good car.
I loved the GS up til 2016 but after 2016 I love the GS F
I have a 2013, wouldn’t trade it for anything. Definitely fell in love.
@@karolinavizcarra2823 I have a 2013 too. My first car haha! Black 2013 rwd with the luxury package and mark levinson
@@ayushsaha4656 FIRST CAR? Dang, You did well! Lol I have the F sport nebula gray pearl
@@karolinavizcarra2823 I got it for 17k out the door haha. It has hella miles but I'm not worried. But TBH I probably pushed it harder than the past 2 owners in the last month hahaha. I wish I got the F sport package but oh well haha. I have to get the front brakes replaced soon I have hotspots rip.
Lexus failed it. I mean
They have the IS, GS, ES and LS
There's no need for 4 sedans in the line up.
We only need 3, a compact, mid and full size.
They should have gotten rid of the ES and kept the GS 😔
@@eyang7 I think so.
@@eyang7 I agree man, the gs it's a sexy-looking sedan.
ALL LEXUS HAD TO DO WAS MAKE IT A REAL PERFORMANCE CAR, AND UPDATE THE FREAKING TECHNOLOGY!!!!!
Agreed, if they gave it the ES's technology upgrades, there would have been more buyers.
@Aran Ignite what are your thoughts?
I DISAGREE!
@@sakhiwontshiqa9186 why
@@chasevisions its a great car no matter what. But Lexus must work on performance. THE TECH HAS NO PROBLEM
Anytime I get behind the wheel of our 2015 GS350 F-Sport, it completely fulfills my expectations in luxury and sportiness.
Although the maintenance costs are higher than a standard GS (bigger rotors/brakes in the front, staggered in the RWD setup), I still prefer the F-Sport package's styling and performance.
Bought this in February for ~$22k with the Mark Levinson package, and I'm ready to drive another 250k miles on it in the years to come!
Your reviews are awesome and I enjoy all of them, Lexus or not!
Nice that is awesome my friend and that is the trait of a truly great car to like it the more you drive it. And I'm humbled you appreciate my reviews! Stay blessed
Lexus IS a great car that’s why I’m never getting rid of my 06 Lexus LS430 I love her and she is a keeper 😎
I did the similar thing and agree with u I love my gs350 f sport. I may look for a GSF but I don’t need to. I just hit 53k on my gs. I had an ‘06 Infiniti M45 Sport with over 300k and Infiniti discontinued that too due to the SUV craze and market demand. I don’t know what I need to do now or where to go if something ever happens to my GS 350 F Sport
I'm glad you made out well by buying the GS. I wanted to buy one, but keep putting it off and never got one until the GS stop coming out all together. It's too late now, but good luck on your car purchased.
I think if Lexus would have made the Gs look like a 4 door coup to be similar to the cls, a7, or 6 grand coup the Gs would have sold more. The Es and Gs kinda stepped on each other toes.
That's def an idea making a hatchback sedan
I think you are on point. That would have definitely make the GS stand out a lot and not just another four door sedan.
No, the sale of cls is only 1/10 of e
Damn same thing I said
ES killed the GS
In my opinion looks better even the new es.. just need interior update
Yea GS is def a handsome car I hope it makes a comeback and legitimate one
I thought it was just me having that thought I also would have a preference given the choice to have this GS F sport over the more successful Es . The exterior design has a somewhat quirky awkwardness integrated from the side profile front headlamps that becomes more evident as you make your way
to the rear lamps. This is a real shame because overall Lexus have delivered a prestigious package.
The es just has bad body proportion, it should take note from Volvo and audi a6,even the lincoln continental
Definitely!!!!
I’ve seen used GS F selling for $50,000-60,000.
There are 2 cars that I’ve missed out getting, the preface lifted GS F sport and gen 9 Accord V6 Touring.
But for my needs, the new LS500 does everything I need and more. It has a powerful engine and huge trunk for practicality.
LS500 F sport is great I really like that car
i think the majority of automotive reviewers don’t realize that the target market for lexus vehicles in general doesn’t typically include people looking for the sportiest car. The ES is perfectly fine for the majority people looking at the brand and RWD doesn’t matter to everyone
Agreed!
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@@MeynMotorGroup My 2012 GS250 is fantastically engineered. So much better than my previous 5 series. Interesting to see badge snobbery is starting to creep into the US market.
Kevin, brother you are one of the most honest, fun to watch and listen to reviewers on RUclips. I have hardly watched 10 of your reviews but it speaks volumes of your knowledge and passion.
All power to you and a Happy New Year!
Humbled by that thanks so much! And I hope you have a Happy New Years as well!
Also Lexus care all about quality. Spec sheets don't cover quality. Just look at Teslas they are spec sheet queens but are one of the worse cars
10 million percent correct my friend
I love the look of the grill. It stands out. Every other sedan/suv all look the exact same on the road just with a different badge. Once you notice you can’t really unsee it. But I’ve always notice the Lexus and 4Runner stand out the most to me. I’m in the market right now for a new car and I’ve been binge watching all your different lexus reviews and I’m pretty sure a Lexus is what I’m going to get. Thank you for you’re service !
I have a 2015 GS 350 AWD. Love the car and bought it CPO 2 years ago. I’m now spoiled and wonder whether the LS will be the only choice for me in 4 to 5 years. Appreciate your forthrightness.
Excellent job sir yea you did great with that car and I suppose yes an LS460 or LS500 F sport would be an excellent choice. You could even get the wild GS F although it's RWD only 😆 thanks again for stopping by!
Awesome review! Love the footage of the GS driving in my neighborhood. I had quite a few expensive European cars in the past but now have a ‘19 GSF that I intend to keep indefinitely. You’re right when you mentioned that feeling is something that you can’t put on a spec sheet. Likewise, it’s also something that can’t be bought with money. Cheers.
Ooh I am jealous my friend that is awesome that you have such a new GS F keep it and enjoy it for a long time sir!
I like the direction your channel is taking, it makes it more of a subscribers channel than just a consumer looking for a review.
For sure my friend! That's what I want to put the subscriber first and that might not yield the most views but I really want to be able to deliver content my core audience can find value in and even new people that happen to find these videos
Got my used 2013 GS with luxury package! Reasons for buying that car.. 1.) Lexus/Toyota reliability 2.) Sexy looking car! 3.) smooth yet sporty 😉 I Still have my 1998 Lexus ES 300 with 200k as well
Yes sir! Hope you make more vids with those gems!
My 06 Lexus ES 330 still runs super smooth. Always starts up. Lexus is the best. Was looking to upgrade to a GS, to bad it discontinued.
@@197016003 Nice! I had a 1998 ES 300 and that thing was still running strong at 200,000k miles. You can still find a GS out there.
200k is nothing for a Lexus, my rx330 has 340k miles and is still driving smoothly, I wonder how many more shes gonna get.ahaha@@demisemedia
i purchased a 08 GS460 using your advice (logging on to the lexus drivers site for vehicle history). waited years for the right one to be available and it was worth it. thank you for your help and best of luck on your channel.
Nice! Glad the advice from that LS460 buyers guide helped hope you're enjoying that beautiful GS460 man I'm jealous!
@Exhuast Sport Auto Great RUclips channel man love all the Lexus and Acura reviews and videos. How about a Lexus GSF car review that would be awesome man!! Love to see this channel get a fresh 2020 GSF review.
Will try my best to get a GS F on the channel my friend, thank you so much!
@@MeynMotorGroup Awesome keep up the great work also love to see a RCF Track Edition it’s another masterpiece from Lexus!!!
Hi Exhaust Sports Auto,
Always thankful of your videos. Would you rather get an used 2018 GS 350 vs. 2021 ES 350? My instinct says GS but the newer techs on ES350 are hard to ignore.
I would never buy a 2016 and up GS unless it was a GS F. So I would def get the new ES
@@MeynMotorGroup You wouldnt even buy the 2016 GS 450h fsport?....why please ?
Actually I sort of take it back I drove a 2017 and 2020 and they were great I think the 2016 GS I drove had some issues like previous owner not keeping up with maintenance and always using regular gas so it didn't react well
I bought used 15 model because it was cheaper than the 19 Camry (V6)😂
Nice haha good pick up
Great move. I'm looking at getting this GS as well.
How much is your monthly payments
@@yungblade7 probably around $400 if making payments
@@drgonking2093 😆 your handle name is funny.
I love the GS range . I bought a GS 460 . 39000 only . Bought it basically for weekend use only . Luxury , Power and what more important it puts a smile on my face every time I take it out . Class
Very nice my friend!
I literally subscribed to you just because of your love for Lexus. You turned me into a fan :) Great video
great video.. always loved the GS but i have read many many reviews though that there was some unintended acceleration issues in the late 90s version and even into the early 2000s.. have you heard anything about that?
I have not heard about that!
@@MeynMotorGroup car complaints.com has many instances and just typing it into a google search for unintended acceleration for lexus gs and results pop up.. harkens back to the toyota issue in 2000..
I was going to buy a 2013-15 Lexus GS 350 F Sport early in the year, but the prices at dealers and privately owned were too high, at nearly $30k in my state, so I opted for an Acura TL Type S. Similar car, looks great, nearly 300hp and was far cheaper. Nice review!
Yes tbat is correct those cars really hold their value well and are not cheap. Glad you got a Type S that is a rare car! Enjoy it my friend and massive congrats
Really sad to see this model go. I literally grew up with this car and platform😂! My Dad had every generation of the GS except for the very first one. He drove me around in all of his GS to practice and school etc. He purchased them all brand new.
1998 GS 300
2006 GS 300
2014 GS 350
2015 GS 350 F-Sport
The GS sadly never caught on, the ES was a much more attractive price point. I just never found it luxurious because it’s FWD.
I have a lot of great memories in all of those cars and I wish I could’ve learned how to drive in the 15 F-Sport but sadly he got rid of it right before I could drive. He got a brand new MB S550 in 17. First German car after being a loyal Lexus owner. I got my permit and learned how to drive in a new S-Class. Yea I know, lucky me, but the GS still had a place in my heart.
Once I got my license, it was time for me to find my own car, I really wanted a 14-15 GS F-Sport. Unfortunately, they were out of our price point for my first car and I settled for an MB E350. The Lexus holds their value much better than the MB. I still really want one.
I love my GS, was specifically looking for the RWD dynamics so something like an ES wouldn't cut it. Sad to see it go (temporarily). I like the IS and RC too but I'm a 'Lexus freak' 😂 so I'm probably different to the average consumer
That's awesome! Which model GS do you own?
@@MeynMotorGroup it's a 2013 GS350 F Sport. We also got a 2012 model in Australia that would fall under the 13-15 models you mentioned for those 15 people that have one 😂
Hi bro. give plz advice. tomorrow i’m going buy lexus gs 350. there 2 lexus: AWD luxury package and RWD luxury package. which is better????
@@user-hd6rz4wg8n get the RWD mate, actually it depends on where you live, but where I live I definitely don't need AWD and the simpler the better
I’m also a Lexus fan I have just bought my 7th Lexus in 19yrs currently drive a RX450H and GS300 on 07 plate at bargain price.
I have a 2013 GS 350 F Sport with rr racing tuning and absolutely love it! Will pick up a GS F next year.
Nice!
I love my GS450h 2014. Best car of the lots I drove in the past (drove Mercedes and BMW cars). The comfort and the way it delivers the power, it is silky smooth. It is a car I intend to keep for many more years. No other cars even new does replace the quality drive. And the fact that it is so rare in UK, makes me feel more special in it!
Absolutely my friend for sure a keeper and has a real soul whilst being a hybrid! Now that's quality
@@MeynMotorGroup Absolutely Kevin!
Great car bro I hope u keep your Lexus because I’m definitely keeping my 06 LS430 she is a keeper and spoils me every time we spend together 😎
@@theodoreyoung8777 absolutely! I intend to keep it for many years
Nick Regnier 🤝😎
30 years on the market is hardly a failure. The niche offering from Lexus that provides both sophisticated ride quality and a little bit of fun doing it. People talk about stats like torque, and horsepower and 0-60. When do you genuinely get to drive your vehicle to its max level and take advantage of those stats? Very rarely I'd wager. The GS was a unique offering in a crowded room of sedans that basically fell out of favor because people would rather have some ugly ass crossover rather than a sophisticated, fast, smooth, elegant sports car sedan.
Picking up my 2018 GS350 F Sport AWD tomorrow! You're video is spot on. I won't have Apple Carplay, but everything else is spot on. I plan on keeping it forever.
Congrats my friend enjoy it!
I am getting a 2018 GS350 F Sport AWD tomorrow too! Hope you're loving yours! There's a kit to convert the system to an Apple Carplay infotainment system but I haven't tried it. It was about $700 and I wasn't sure if there would be any complications.
Great content, really enjoyed it! Most people judge and diss Lexus for what its not, instead of praising it for what it is.
Hi Kevin. Thanks again for that insight. I have a 2019 350 fsport AWD and the reason I appreciate it is because of the Big three; Luxury, Performance, and reliability. You are right about the people who buy this car. I am a hybrid type of person. I am frugal , but like quality things, and I like to consider my purchases carefully. I like to think that I scored a deal on a quality item. I don't have the need to spend to get a fix, but like to research to learn about quality and value. I hate the idea of wasting money, or the thought that I am constantly having to bleed my pockets 3fold to fix something that should not be broken. I picked up mine used . Saving about 18k vs a new one. I have the 6 speed, but honestly I can't be objective about the neutered effect since I basically came from a camry solara. I buy and keep my car for a long time. That's who these cars are for. Quite frankly, there are very few cars in that category. Owning it and knowing that it is safe along with the driving experience , with the refinement is what makes owning the GS a fantastic experience. Thanks again Kevin
You def got yourself a quality item with a lexus my friend def enjoy that beautiful ride!
Hey Jose. How much did you cop yours for? I'm looking to get something similar around the 15-18 years. What mileage did it come with? And how has the gas been on you?
@@TheBlastoise313 hi Avery. I traveled to Boston from New York to get mine because I wanted triple beam lights. I paid $41,3 00. But then when I got the car to New York I had to pay the sales tax and the registration fees here. So the total price ended up being a little shy of $45,000.
Mileage was 18,000 MI. I think you should have some opportunities especially after the newer vehicles come in and people also return cars from Leases. Good luck
@@josefernandez2722 We're in a similar boat you and I. I'm also from New York. My budget is slightly below that, I don't want to spend more than 40k. I think ill look for models 16-18. And are the triple beams worth it? Have you enjoyed them?
@@TheBlastoise313 Hi Avery. The car is exactly the same on the inside, but on the outside, I feel it completely changes it's appearance. Some reviewers hated the look after the 2015 years. The triple beam changes all of that. Like putting a tux on the car. I also tried finding a 2017 to try and save a few bucks because with this car, even if you get one with 30000, you're still really good. It was difficult if not impossible to find. I almost bought a regular f sport, but a friend talked me out of it, and said I would regret it later. He was right because I really love what I am looking at every time I approach my car. It's your call. I think you can definitely score some out there in the mid to upper 30's $ with 25000 to 35000 miles no problem. With the triple beams, however, you will have to be prepared to travel. and pay a little more unless of course, you happen to luck out, and your neighbor across the street wants to sell his.
Own one, thinking about moving to an used LS or RX purely because of comfort and extras that I didn't get in the GS at first. But staying with the brand because of the astonishing build quality, the car still feels like new, their service is not that expensive and is truly high quality. Only issue is the infotainment, really 😁
I recently bought a 2014 Lexus GS 350 F Sport and I absolutely love it. It’s a shame that they are discontinuing the GS like, but hopefully there’s something better on the other side.
Congrats my friend! Excellent purchase
Im literally in the process of getting a GS. I just wish I had more options to choose from .
I've got a 13' F Sport (RWD) and I love it. Great performance, perfect sized sedan, a smooth ride, and it gets tons of compliments. I love that I rarely see other GS' on the road compared to all the 5 Series and E Classes. I agree with your point in the video; I think it failed b/c they probably could make it even better with interior upgrades, mechanical upgrades, etc., but then you could buy a used AMG or M car at that point which easily dominates the GS in performance. I think they also shot themselves in the foot with how much they charge for the GS-F. I still think it's an awesome car that's under-appreciated!
I bet it's quick because of the 6 speed transmission.
You have a glorified Toyota. Take it easy
@@titusrome2863 lol you’re saying that prob cuz you can’t afford one
@@bharatkandrigi489 exactly lol. Just another hater😂
I also have a 2013 gs350 fsport, obsidian with Cabernet interior, I fucking love it, constantly get compliments, definitely worth the money, and will last another few hundred thousand miles easily, super fun to drive, super reliable, more fun to drive then my e39 530i, the v6 more than puts out, I’m not taking the car to a track so it’s perfect for what I drive it for.
Just bought a 2013 GS350 F Sport after watching your reviews and loving it!! Great car!!
Massive congrats it's epic
I enjoy your videos. Keep it up!
Thank you my friend!
I love the GS sport sedan character over many many others.
I agree my friend
Sad to see the Gs go I wouldn’t be mad if the ES would of got canceled.The Gs has a special communication like the IS and LS .It’s something that I never felt in any generation of ES, the new one is nice but it is no replacement
Correct the GS and Im not just talking about the GS F is an amazing driving car pre 2016
Good afternoon Kevin I'm just looking up some of your older videos thanks for your hard work and the GS failed because I found out how great these cars too late😭😭
Should I get a 2014 lexus gs 350 or wait a year or so for the 2019 lexus es to depreciate some more?
It's because more people who want a luxury car to rep them is Mercedes or BMWs but they buy the cheap models thinking others may not know the differences... This car is a super gem and I'm never letting mines go!
Nice! Def keep it
Lmaoo I know what you mean😂😂not to hate but I know some people that drive an A-class like an s-class 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nahh..because people mainly got the ES instead of the GS.
The GS was that odd one.
The IS - Compact
GS - Midsize
ES - was also a Midsize, kind
LS, the Big Boy Full Size.
I purchased a 2020 GS F and I love it. Only got it because they stopped producing them. Drove it for about 3 weeks. Put it in storage, will pull it out in a couple of years. I had fun driving it from GA to TX to put it in storage. The sound is just sublime.
You gotta drive that gem more!
@@MeynMotorGroup So 2020 was the last MY for the GS??
I’m thinking to get a 2012 gs f sport 450 to replace a money pit b7 Audi A4 2.0 Tfsi any thoughts?
I'm looking at possibly purchasing a used 2007 GS 350 AWD with 133k miles. Asking price about 10,500k. Would this be a decent purchase?
I bought a used 2016 GS F for 60k CAD and love the car. It can take the whole family (3 kids) in the back and was the upgrade from my 2006 IS 250 RWD manual.
Okay so after listening to your review I'm nervous about getting this GS 🤦🏾♀️Planned on getting the 2017. What would be comparable to this? The ES is too conservative for my taste.
Yes dont go ES test drive that 2017. I drove a 2020 and it was amazing. Idk when they changed but I think the 2016 I drove was an awd the rwd is better
amazing review. You have nailed the topic
Glad you enjoyed it
I own the 15' GS 350 with F Sport trim, black exterior / red interior, purchased used, and I love the car. It has about 60k on it. I hope it will last for a while.
This GS F sport looks amazing both exterior and interior. The panache of a name badge will always be a overriding factor so the beauty of ownership of a Lexus and what it actually brings to the automotive industry will be overlooked by consumers wanting partnership with a prestigious badge familiar to most.including the inadvertently uninterested members of the public.
Very eloquent and well put my friend
Perfectly said 😎
Can you do a review of the 2008-10 GS460?! I think it’s phenomenal car for the money these days that packs a real punch and checks off all the bells and whistles!
I've been looking everywhere for a third gen if I do find one it will most likely be a 350 tho
Exhaust Sports Auto It has to be the 460 because the 4.6L V8 is what makes this car unique. A 350 can be found everywhere. Nothing better than reliable power that’s smooth and sounds incredibly amazing!
Just bought 2016 GSF CPO. Owned LS400 for 10+ yrs used, replaced with LS430 12 yrs and plan to keep it as ski car (winter tires of course). Own manual 911, just sold Boxster auto to get newer w interesting colors. So, your summary on market seems 100% on, although many journalists praised GSF supremely including Chris Harris
I love my 2013 GS Luxury Package, bought it in 2015 CPO'd after owning three BMW 5 series (525,540,545) and a 2001 740IL. I loved driving BMW but my GS with the Luxury Package has been a great road driving car and extremely reliable. The car only has 96K miles on it, deep mica blue with gray leather. I intend to keep this car. We have also added a 2019 Lexus NX300. I would love to see Lexus bring back the GS! Great review, thank you.
Recently, I was given a 2021 ES350 while my 2016 GSF was in for regular maintenance. Man the ES350 steering/handling and acceleration was subpar. Though it was quiet, comfortable, solid, and the info tech was improved... so in that regard I can see why the ES is preferred compared to the GS especially the F( 2016 didn’t have adjustable suspension so it can be rough). That being said I don’t see a reason to buy another Lexus sedan (I’d love the LC500 but I need a sedan) - it appears Lexus has abandoned their high-performance F marque for CUVS and cushy sedans, unless they surprise us all with a new ISF.
You're def right but I do think they will make an IS F but with no longer that amazing V8 we love but most likely the TT V6 found in the LS500
Secret to the GS -F are special LCA bushings that can be installed on any 06-20 GS. I have them on my 11 AWD, they make a very big difference!
IS 500 announced by now!
Personally, as prominent as the LS 400 was in 1989, it was the first GS (i.e. the 1993 GS 300) that was striking to me and still to this day, has occupied my mind. Lexus officially stated that they are pulling the GS lineup, at least for the North American market, due to consumers preferring SUV's, Crossovers and pickup trucks. These three type of vehicle classes account for almost 70% of vehicles sold today in America and that trend is increasing. As I write this comment, that trend could reverse if gas prices climb and stay there for several months due to the Russian/Ukrainian conflict. But we'll see.
I have a riveria red 2014 gs350 awd and i absolutely love it!! It looks amazing and handles extremely well especially for a big 4 door sedan.
Had a 2013 awd with luxury package. Best car I ever owned. Wish I still had it.
I have a gs 350. It been a great car. Quiet, smooth, great acceleration, has held its value.
Thank you so much for a brilliant review, as always. I have been driving my lexus GS 2013 for almost 7 years and still enjoy every moment of it. It's just an amazing car and so reliable in comparison to the Mercedes and BMW which I had previously🙈... I had several mechanical breakdowns that could have ended in desaster (I'm from South Africa) My lexus just matured gracefully over the years in comparison with the German models I had previously and often after parking look back at my GS and still admire her soft lines, huge boot and gutsy performance. My best buy ever.
Very nice that’s why I’m never parting with my 06 Lexus LS430 she does the same for me everyday pampers me and she is so smooooth and quiet perfect luxury feeling she always gives me 😎
What is the point to get new lexus if you can buy use one? Lexus Best Buy use one and German best is new. If lexus make another gs will be the sam old one since lexus reliable mean make same one nothing new
Julio Huang 😂 a Lexus hater I see but u have some true points especially with Lexus not using a lot of new technology or upgrades in some of their cars like Mercedes or other German cars do
@@theodoreyoung8777 i love lexus I was about to buy rx450h I like lexus but perfomer :( 0-100 8sec in a 3,5 cc v6???? For lexus luxury and drive experience I feel like cheap since the car is light compare to bmw BUT I test BMW X5 45e 0-100 5,3 sec in 3cc? For luxury bmw. Sit in bmw is bigger since u am fat XD so that my point I don’t hate lexus it just lexus need to put more effort to perfomer so big engine for 8 sec?
Julio Huang Again bro I agree with some of Lexus cars that’s true I own a 2006 Lexus LS430 and she is everything from fast to powerful torque buttery smooth and whisper quiet that’s why I’m never getting rid of her she is a keeper 😎
Hi,
On another review you said the 2020 GS is done properly. Do you still think that? I get the point of 2013-2015 models. But you reversed in one review of the black GS. thanks for response.
Yea the 2016 I drove was pure trash but the 2020 was incredible no idea why and no information from Lexus as to why that is so test all of them I guess
@@MeynMotorGroup have you driven the AWD models? What’s your take on that? Need an all season vehicle with snow capabilities. Do not want an SUV. appreciate your channel.
The video is beautifully filmed. How did you get the car so immaculate? It’s flawless!
😅 I can’t take any credit for that my friend, this is just Lexus B Roll from the manufacturer that journalists are allowed to use
I love the GS, I own a 2015 F-Sport and have owned the 2nd and 3rd gen. Love them, still deciding on my next car since the GS is now dead.
Nice the 2015 GS is amazing glad you have one yea idk where you can go from here. LS460 is pretty nice If you can get a CPO one with warranty but up to you won't be as sporty
@@MeynMotorGroup I’ve considered the LS 460 but maybe the LS 500 fsport
LS500 F sport is also phenomenal if you can budget for it you will love it
Get a newer gs. I had 1st gen. Now a 13. I'm eyeing the 10th anniversary gsf. That's the one man.
@@brucewayne-ej3cx the GSF is incredible, that’s also an option. But I’m leaning towards the LS500 f sport for the larger sedan.
Interesting take, my 2013 Gs 350 f sport has been a relative disappointment in terms of handling performance and build quality. Comparing it to my 99 e39 Bmw 528i I expect more from a modern luxury vehicle in the same class. The handling on the 5 series is simply on a different level. As far as reliably time will tell, but my 5 series is at 280,000 miles with nearly no issues.
Congrats!
Here i am with my 2nd gen 03 GS .
Still runs strong and looks so beautiful with 20s.i get complements all time
Good video and I agree with your assessment of the situation for Lexus...it’s a shame...pretty much just about the NX, RX and ES for them. I have a 2019 RX and 2014 LS and they are both great cars but the tech isn’t very good - like you said, just about the comfort and reliability.
Wonderful car you own my friend great choices! Yea they don't flood their cars with a ton of tech but def solid drivetrains and they genuinely have a soul to drive in my opinion. Enjoy those awesome cars!
Rx perfomer is shame to a big engine 3,5v6 2020 and only make 0-100 8sec
I loved my 4GS. It was always fun to drive compared to the 5er and E-class.
Yea they're better than what people give them credit for
Nah I think it’s because that’s what you could afford
@@luism8612 Sir it’s funny you say that. Because the price delta at the time of purchase between a GS350 F-Sport & a E350 Sport was roughly the same take or give $1k-2k at least in the United States. Since the writing this post well over a year ago I actually purchased a E350 Sport 4matic in Steel Gray & it was a very nice car to own, actually more fuel efficient than my GS350. Still not sporty though, I ironically ending up buying a used black 2015 E63-S AMG 4matic and it was a blast to own and drive. It averages 17 mpg. I’ve never driven the Lexus GS-F for comparison sake, But automotive journalist Chris Harris is a huge fan of the GS-F please watch his GS-F video. Comparing the standard engine trim levels like the 3.5l V6 GS350 F sport vs the 3.5l V6 E350 Sport, the Lexus still win for driving dynamics, in my opinion it’s way more playful on back roads. Price point was never a factor in which car I wanted to own. But why would you take my word for it?
MotorTrend published a article on their favorite (Six-Cylinder Midsize Luxury Sedan Comparison) back in April 2012.
www.motortrend.com/reviews/six-cylinder-midsize-luxury-sedans/
Wanna guess which car they preferred? GS 350 F Sport beat out the A6, 5er & won the competition. Yes for context you can argue the E350 Sport wasn’t included in comparison test. Your certainly entitled to your opinion & I’m entitled to mine. Thanks for chiming in, please have a awesome 2022.
I’m pretty sure you bought older cars but whatever’s
@@luism8612 Ironically your actively accusing me of being poor & not being able to afford a V6 powered Mercedes E-class. But 8 months ago you posted a comment on this RUclips channel that you “want to pull the trigger on a 2016 Hyundai Genesis 3.8l, but your scared of gas mileage”. Have a nice life 👍 😉
I have a GS300h. Love it. Proper luxury car and I like the fact that you rarely ever see one in the UK. It will be staying with me long term. The car market now is a mess and I wouldn’t want anything newer.
Yea Lexus is super rare in Europe many of my subscribers have told me that and I find that to be a shame. But enjoy that epic car my friend!
@@MeynMotorGroup I certainly will old chap. Loving your work.
@@jgh548 humbled by that thank you! And stay blessed my friend!
I had a GS450h here in the UK for 2.5 years (sold recently...may buy another once I get over the early 30s mid life crisis Porsche) and have never seen a Mk4 GS450h that I didn't own. Think I saw 5-6 in 300h guise, not sure how many of those there are but I know the 450h is rarer than a McLaren 570S here which is pretty crazy.
If you see a white 981 Cayman S smiling and staring at your car, that's probably me thinking "that guy made the right choice" ☺
You mention 2016 and upthey neutered but replied in a comment 2016 and up you woukd go w the GSf , why?
My 2007 w 250k just now the maintance is gonna be more than the value and am in love w how well it still drives. Cant tell im driving 85mph its so quiet. I want a new used GS with same quiet and smooth ride if i look into buying 2018-2019 will i be happy? It has to be a GsF? I dont want the mouse to toggle the display😖
looking heavily into a 2015. What version would you recommend most ?
Any of the GS models are good even the 450 hybrid. But the most common you will find is a 350 and the regular 350 is just fine for 13-15
@@MeynMotorGroup I almost want to go LS now. Is the GS line know to be more reliable longterm?
Get a warranty with either one parts are expensive better yet, but CPO
I want to pick up a GS-F hopefully next year for daily drive one of the main reason it might be the last of its kind and with a Lexus naturally aspirated V8 which is ultra reliable I won't have to worry about any mechanical issues that may develop.
Yes def worth picking up but it is expensive at $50k used and it may actually go up who knows
Yeah I'd get a GSF if I wasnt in snow belt state... Sadly no AWD
I personally think the ES was the demise of the GS, the ES is bigger, has better tech, more interior room, better materials and still being cheaper, most everyday consumers don't really care that the GS has more power as they would never floor their car in their life they just see that the GS has an outdated interior and was more expensive than the ES, I think Lexus coul use the new Mirai and make bring it back as an EV or they restyle and bring it back as the Toyota Crown that is being sold in t chinese markets it's like the Avalon but it's RWD and a lot sportier and that platform underpins the new LS, and Mirai so it could work or better still just make the ES RWD and give it more power, I think that would satisfy both crowds and they won't need to have more or less the same cars with one just being RWD
Yea new ES is def amazing
@@MeynMotorGroup No it’s not lol
What?
As a kid my parents had the ls400 but I always loved the italdesign GS, which always reminded me of the w124 s class. In 2018 I leased a gs350 f sport awd. Car was a beast, the sound system was amazing, awd was phenomenal. The issue I had with it was the boring interior as well as the cheap feeling doors so when the used car prices went through the roof I got rid of it. I wish they would bring it back but as an Audi A7 competitor
Lexus is the best vehicle ever made.
I still drive my 2006 GS300 SE-L and it’s still drives like new. My wife drives the 2013 GS350 F-Sport and she screams happiness with he car. I blame bad press and consumers for not test driving the machines.
Just hit 195k miles on my 98' gs400, love it, it's my everyday driver.😄
Niceeee now that's an epic machine enjoy it!
Congrats bro great car 😎
That's it?! You can get 500k if taken care of!
I bet it runs like new
I have 251k on my 99 gs300
Most people are converting to SUV hence Sedan sales are impacted anyway.
U r correct. Although I love luxury sedans like the gs and ls, my next purchase is a suv. 😔
Good review. We are seeing a fundamental shift in consumer behavior. The popularity of SUVs is one aspect. The other, in my view, is that most consumers these days want a premium badge, that's it. They're not interested in the driving dynamics.
That's why the vast majority of premium cars are sold with the most economical engine choice. In Europe, stats from a couple of years ago showed that around 80% of all BMW 5 Series sold were the 520d. Yes, that's the 2.0 four cylinder diesel. But, if someone asks them what car they drive, they will proudly respond " a BMW 5 Series", believing they bought the ultimate driving machine. It even gets more extreme with the 116d.
Such a nice looking interior, especially that brown leather. I think the new ES looks very competitive. It has all the charm to fill what ever void the GS has left behind. Similar size to the GS, has a fresh interior and very comfortable drive. I wonder if Lexus will ever release an ES-F, with like a turbo-V6 similar to that from the LS.. or a NA V8? If they wanted the ES-F to compete against German horsepower you'd think maybe a turbo V8 would be on its way sooner or later?
An ES F would be wild 😆
Still isn't there. Just drove an ES300H. I think its 4 cilinder engine is too slow for this car...so I'll stick with my GS450H for a while...
I purchased a 2014 GS 350 AWD in 2019 with around 54,000 miles. I love it! I had been driving Toyota for 15 plus years. I love driving the GS AWD. I find it really fun to drive. Mostly I love the reliability. Other brands may be faster or more sporty, but for me you can't beat the comfort of knowing you can depend on it to run day in day out. It's like money in the bank. I will drive Lexus until I'm in the ground.
I love these cars they really need to bring back the v8 try one more time
Still in love with my 2013 GS 350. Especially after modifying it. Drives like a completely different car, and in a good exciting way.
I would love to add the ISF to my collection.
What did you do to it?
Very cool my friend yea IS F is epic too
@@stevenkozicki943 Things added:
Borla Exhaust
Cold Air Intake Tube
RR Racing Tune Stage 1
Tanabe Strut Bar
Makes a big difference on how the car drives. Especially with the Tune.
Are you able to do a review of the 06-2012 GS?
GS is one of the greatest sports sedans and one of my favorites.
Just brought the 2018 GS 350 F sport 😃 Best car EVER
How much did it go for please ?
Yes I agree! Best car EVER! I bought a white on red 2016 GS 350 F-Sport last year with 41k miles for $28K (Original MSRP $58k) & still can't get enough of it! A whole lot of car for the price I paid.
holy cow i love my 2017 gs with 31k miles. looks like a brand new model and drives like an absolute dream.
How is the LC500 you have? I'm hoping to get a GS-F one day...
Best car I've ever driven my friend. And I drove the C8, a Bentley, and a Rolls Royce this year
@@MeynMotorGroup The Lexus is one heck of a car for sure. I love and respect the brand. I'm based in the UK so the market is similar to the US. Most people go for the usual Audi/BMW/Merc combo. But some people know the truth. Even the service you get at the dealership is second to none. We've only just started getting the new ES over here, the one released a couple of years ago now. It's nice for sure but I prefer the look of the GS.
Yea you will love the GS F I've only driven the RC F but both the GS F and RC F are similar in feel apparently but GS F is superior due to it being on its own platform and longer wheelbase. They don't feel and react like the LC but the F cars are def a masterpiece in its own right and very satisfying on the road. You will def stand out in the UK for sure!
A 2019 Camry V6 has almost as much horsepower as the last gen GS.....minus the GSF. That underscores how badly Lexus left the GS to languish
Hands down Gs interior feel and style is another level compared to the newer camrys basic setup
@@enzoi9569 that may be but the CamryV6 is a great bargain at its price point.....no way the GS has 5 or 6 hp over a Camry and costs thousands more. Lexus dropped the ball and failed this car....should've been upgraded to at least 350-370 range
People that are rich don't care about reliability. I have a friend that has a BMW 6 series that stays in the shop but he loves the attention he gets in the car. His daily driver is a Hyundai Elantra that he has owned for 10 years with no problems. My friend makes $100k a year so he can afford the issues that go with it.
Damn that's nice but man even the rich are better off leasing or at least buying CPO with a warranty
@@MeynMotorGroup I told him that so many times but he likes to customize his vehicles. Unfortunately, you can't do that with a lease. The funny thing is he used to have a LS430 but it was flooded out due to a storm. He always told me how reliable it was but he got tired of seeing everyone buying Lexus so he wanted to try something different.
You can customize a lease its a common misconception many have its actual no different from financing a car. Only problem comes is when you turn the car in...but you don't have to turn it in to the dealer you can just sell it to carmax after 3 years or sell it yourself like any other car. You can also pay the balance and keep it yourself or even trade it in to another dealership. I love the flexibility with leasing but most don't know you can do all that
@@MeynMotorGroup Wow! I didn't know that. I like to get custom wheels and tint my windows. Maybe I will consider buying a Jaguar XJ now! Then again, I am love with Lexus so much it is hard for me to change.
@@350zlover2 Watch my video on how to buy a new car, it has a thumbnail pic of a yellow mercedes. And after that, watch Ari Janessian on RUclips
A solid analysis. It’s interesting that the newest Consumer Reports rated the 2023 GX 460 as the top vehicle for reliability. The “GS” series was always a special “ Grand Sedan.” Perhaps because it was manufactured in Japan
In your last GS video you said facelift was as good as the 13-15?
Yes I also drove a 2017 recently did extremely well. Viewers were telling me that the 2016 I drove was most likely driven by someone who babied the car and would take time to be reprogrammed to more aggressive driving. Kind of hard to belive but the only explanation that makes sense
I have three 2GEN GS’s (a 300, 400, and a 430). I absolutely love them! IMO when Lexus changed the body style to the 3GEN and 4GEN, that’s when things started going south. The reliability wasn’t as good as the 2GEN GS’s. I hate they discontinued the GS, but I’m hoping they’ll bring it back at some point.
Should have never killed GS460.
V8 GS is def epic the GS450h took over which is actually also an amazing car
Those are so hard to find and when you do find them you need to jump on them because they do not last when posted for sale
bought a GSF about a year ago for $50k with less than 43kmiles. love the car it's super fun, not a ton of aftermarket stuff out there, unfortunately. She's a real head turner though EVERYONE comments on the car when I stop to get gas. After the chrome delete and head/tail light tints I am beyond satisfied with the car. I think you nailed it in this video, people just don't car about reliability, I had an ISF before I picked up my GSF. I changed the brakes, oil, and tires, that's it. And with all the maintaining I was able to put 175k miles on my ISF with 0 issues
I just purchased my first 2017 gs350 f sport and so far so good! Such a smooth luxurious ride.
Not gonna lie if im going to lease i would german because you can enjoy the driving experience and you can toss it before the bad reliability and higher maintenance costs kicks in, lexus cant really compete with AMG or M but if im going to buy and own the car definitely going with lexus. One day im gonna have a LC lol
I totally understand AMGs are a blast and worth leasing as well as the S class.
And why not own a Toyota Camry is cheap, reliable and bmw for driving experience? Drive a lexus to work and bmw to the beach :D
@@calindor19 people that have a lot of money dont want to drive a camry
@@paladin3116 le pille with a lot money change car every year XD you think they care about reliable?
I'm a Lexus guy & I own my second GS, 08' & it's simply amazing.
However, imo, the new one was very highly priced, like you mentioned in the video, even used ones are too expensive to buy. Lexus tried real hard to compete & go head to head with the BMW 5 & dished out a lot of money in its production. No one would simply buy a Lexus that's priced same as a BMW or the Benz. Same story with the LS, it's simply too expensive. Lexus only needs to put effort into making quality cars like they did in the 2000s (relatively cheap & most importantly, comfortable) because for me, it's in a league of it's own.
Yea I know what you mean my friend and rn the only 2 lexus products to fall in the range you are talking about are the ES and RX (UX and NX as well but I find them subpar) and its no wonder those cars sell so well ES and RX are high quality cars at the right price thanks again!
That :D someone is have a good point in USA people buy lexus if is a lot cheaper then bmw but in my case in my coutry Lexus bmw and Mercedes are same price. So people see German car have more to offer then lexus. Some salesman work in lexus dealer ship say lexus only sale if they offer a bid discount. Most lexus sell are used car. People who change car every 3 or 5 year buy new German car
I love my GS-F, so much attention to detail and quality put into this car it's super underappreciated...My only complaint is the gas consumption. The infotainment system doesn't bother me.
putting it in Eco mode periodically does help for freeway runs..