Never realized the Cerritos was that big!!!!They talk it down so much in the show...figured it was somewhere between a Miranda class and Constitution class saucer hull size...little ole workhorse, isn't so little
@@keanuxu5435 I was referring to the space station, but as somebody else already said, whose comment was erased for some reason, it's not a federation space station, thus not in the list
I thought the Yeager class was a lot smaller. I was pretty sure they showed it side-by-side with Voyager in the pilot episode and it was significantly smaller.
There is no way - I repeat none - where California class is that big, if something, it would be of similar size to Miranda class, but it's definetly not that big. Especially not when considering that the creators scaled it according to the Galaxy class, of which the Nebula class is a close relative - pretty much using the same saucer. Don't know where you got the data for that, but it is incorrect.
Lower Decks co-producer Brad Winters gave the California-class ship length as 535.2 meters, and height at 121.3 meters, in a Tweet. Producer Mike McMahan confirmed these figures in a reply tweet.
The Antares class was around 470 feet so about 144 meters and the SS Huron (the U was added by accident but the script and dialog is SS) is 225m and the Bonnie is closer to 200 meters.
Because it had a much more powerful warp core, was much faster, had armor, newer adaptive shields, and more powerful weapons. It was about twice as powerful as a Galaxy Class starship.
I think is an error, according to lower decks, the class California is the worst class of the federation's ship, but here is large almost as a Sovreign
Universe Class, Universe Class, size of the entire universe and it's usually kind to smaller ships; it's got a chronometer with a minute hand, a millennium hand, and an eon hand!
It should not. The Luna class is very compact and the California class is very spread out. The California seems very big but it does not have much internal space other then the saucer.
Always love being able to get some idea of size and scale of these ships and things. Thought you might have put the enterprise d as the galaxy class ship to help people see the difference between the early enterprise and the next gen one. Undoubtedly the most prominent early Galaxy-class starship was the Federation flagship USS Enterprise-D, which, apart from two brief periods under the commands of William T. Riker and Edward Jellico, was commanded for its entire service history by Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
Just watching this video this is the first time I have heard of some of these Starship Classes and looking at the Apollo class it looks almost similar to the Nebula Class in design even though they are different Starships they look almost and I mean almost identical in design.
Why couldn't they build big? Literally the ONLY canon starfleet ship from the TOS era (until DSC) is the Enterprise and her sister ships. And there's zero canon information saying those were the largest ships of the time. They were among the most advanced, but they has nothing to do with size. Also, the Discovery and other DSC era ships are not as large as the Sovereign, the Discovery is longer but a long string can be longer than the Sovereign, you wouldn't say it was larger. The Sovereign is a good example of size not meaning advanced, it's longer than the Galaxy class but by mass much smaller, why is it smaller when it's plainly more advanced? He'll, most of the ships from the 24th century shown here are smaller and more advanced than the Galaxy! The Intrepid is way more advanced, same for the Saber Steamrunner and Defiant. It's almost as if higher technology allows them to make ships smaller as much as it allows them to make them bigger! Also, Discovery is canon, you dont get to decide what's canon.
One issue I have and it's not your fault...it's more a Trek fault. Why are all of these ships names and classes using Earth name? Why do we rarely ever see a Federation ship/class named after something from Andor or Tellar?
It kinda makes sense since Enterprise established that starfleet began as earth starfleet then became the federations starfleet. My fan theory goes thusly, upon the founding of the federation most member worlds had a long history of conflict and mistrust, Andorians may not want to serve with or under Vulcans just yet. They certainly don't want the Vulcan fleet having free reign through their space and they don't want to depend totally on them for defense. So the solution is easy, earth is as neutral as they come, they become the capitol of the federation and their starfleet becomes the official exploratory branch of the federation and are allowed free access to all member world space. Member worlds largely maintain local fleets and starfleets generally weaker technology is bolstered by a coalition fleet in times of war early on. the growing effectiveness of starfleet means they don't really expand much beyond their own space in a military sense over time. There are times when I think we can see more alien influences in star fleet though, the older ships in DSC often look like they could be built using mixed starfleet and member worlds technology, the USS Shran in particular looks a lot like a starfleet saucer with Andorian cruiser nacelles. And the ships developed in response to the Borg like the steamrunner and Saber class both look kinda alien in design and my going theory is starfleet called upon the member worlds to help design a diverse fleet to counter Borg adaptation.
A common misconception of humans. Many common words and expressions from around the federation SOUND similar to english. For instance "H'mir A'Anda" is Andorian for "a delicate flat dish on which food is served". "En'turp Rise" comes from an obscure southern Vulcan dialect and the closest literal translation is " Sex Machine"
@@DrewLSsix So the Federation is more like the United Nations, or the Planetary Union (from The Orville), than an actual sovereign nation? And the humans are the only ones that everyone else can get along with?
It was also quite possible that other than the Earth Fleet that become the Federation Fleet. The other major member may have kept their own fleet as local defense force.
@@_DataMiner_ no I'm referring to vger from the motion picture, it's made up of 3 parts the probe (voyager 6) the ship and the cloud (witch is part of vger and spans about 3AU
@@_DataMiner_ yes though it's full shot was on a display it's actual appearance is technically cannon much like the original ambassador class design though never actually seen a display model of it in the conference room on the enterprise d confirms it existed
Never realized the Cerritos was that big!!!!They talk it down so much in the show...figured it was somewhere between a Miranda class and Constitution class saucer hull size...little ole workhorse, isn't so little
I know it seems so big
sources put it at 500 some odd meters, now each hull plate they ejected was aabout 1.5 meters long ad they ejected a lor of them
Yeah, pretty much a simplified(or stripped back) Galaxy Class.
I think the sizes are off, but it may just be because I think the Eaglemoss model's magazines have canon information.
Didn't expect the cali class to be that big lol
No Deep Space Nine 😞
The Defiant Class showed up at 0:31
@@keanuxu5435 I was referring to the space station, but as somebody else already said, whose comment was erased for some reason, it's not a federation space station, thus not in the list
its starships not space stations...
@@weskirkland5850 That too
would be cool to see a nimitz class carrier here for comparison. easily one of the largest man made things ive ever seen.
Approximately the size of a sovereign class nacelle.
@@docjanak the nacelle is over 1000 ft alone?!
@@kylealexander7024 about 1120 feet given they’re half the length of the overall ship.
Or now just use the Ford class carriers...our newest. :) There's already one out of sea trials and commissioned.
Model designers: Just grab one of the earlier models and I'll hot glue a beer can onto it somewhere and call it an upgrade.
I thought the Yeager class was a lot smaller. I was pretty sure they showed it side-by-side with Voyager in the pilot episode and it was significantly smaller.
There is no way - I repeat none - where California class is that big, if something, it would be of similar size to Miranda class, but it's definetly not that big. Especially not when considering that the creators scaled it according to the Galaxy class, of which the Nebula class is a close relative - pretty much using the same saucer. Don't know where you got the data for that, but it is incorrect.
Lower Decks co-producer Brad Winters gave the California-class ship length as 535.2 meters, and height at 121.3 meters, in a Tweet. Producer Mike McMahan confirmed these figures in a reply tweet.
Utility ships are more useful if they are bigger because they can fit bigger hangers to do utility sht
California class so much bigger than i thought
Where is the Universe Class? Its the biggest ship I think
The Antares class was around 470 feet so about 144 meters and the SS Huron (the U was added by accident but the script and dialog is SS) is 225m and the Bonnie is closer to 200 meters.
My favorite ship is in this video the nubile class star ship
Very annoyed you didn't include the Enterprise-J
My issue is that a lot of these are non-canon, from the Starfleet Museum timeline, which differs in many ways from the prime timeline.
Hey, what about the Enterprise G? Not the Piccard version but the "Excalibur" class Enterprise G?
Eiffel Tower is 300m tall .. that 600m ship looks similar ..
What about the USS Protostar?
Yeah, that pixel over there, that's it... 😉
I didn't see NX 101 Enterprise or Excellsior class?
check 2:47 for Excelsior class and NX01 is pre federation ship
@@_DataMiner_ You're awesome!
@@_DataMiner_ So is Phoenix
@@_DataMiner_the class NX 01 came from isnt pre fed it has ties during the start of the federation
The Discovery being that much bigger than a Sovereign, much less a Connie, is just short bus stupid.
Why so many classes?
Did I miss USS Voyager?
2:13
How about the USS Vengeance
What about universe class ?
Where is the Odyssey and Universe class hehe.
in star trek online they should redo the size of the ships because it's pretty funny that a boat is only five times smaller than a galaxy class ship
Minimum there is missing a ship, uss vengeance
Prime timeline only.
Wheres the galaxy class? The invicible class?
galaxy class @ 3:10
Inquiry Class among a few others off by a lot.
No NX?
Invincible Class is missing.
Don't think I saw an NX class.
its in my other video about NON-FEDERATION SHIP SIZE COMPARISON
Sovereign Class looks a lot smaller than the Galaxy Class. Never understood why it was considered superior.
Because it had a much more powerful warp core, was much faster, had armor, newer adaptive shields, and more powerful weapons. It was about twice as powerful as a Galaxy Class starship.
What if journey 2 nautilus would look like as a starfleet ship?
Masao would give this a 👍
Moskva? Nice.
Love the Starfleet museum ships in here.
What the hell have you done to my baby girl sovereign class
NX-01?
I cant tell what class the U.S.S Enterprise fits in
Constitution class its there in the video
Constitution (no prefix) and refit (A), Excisor (B), Ambassador (C), Galaxy (D), and Sovereign (E)
Wait… A California class is 535m… In the show, it felt a lot smaller
I think is an error, according to lower decks, the class California is the worst class of the federation's ship, but here is large almost as a Sovreign
@@l.or.e7621size doesn’t always equal power bro
Too fast, not enough real world comparisons :(
Shame about the Kurtzman Trek s***e being shoehorned in, but nice vid otherwise.
No NX class? Sad eyes
NX class wasn't part of federation
the scales here are way off.. the Eiffel Tower isn't that tall ahah
Using non-canon sources is disingenuous to the franchise.
Official size for the Defiant is 170m.
Most measurements are wrong ... 😴😴
Another Great, SO knowledgeable-and surprising things I didn't know! Thank You!
No worker bee. 0/10
Worker bee would solo every ship in the Star Trek universe
Like no way cross field is that huge 💀💀💀
I was more shocked by the size of the Shenzhou...
Over a dozen provable inaccuracies in just the first two minutes.....
Name 3...
Name some buddy, don’t be scared we won’t bite 😂
Way to forget the NX-01
Not a federation starship.
@@absboodoo neither is the Dauntless
@@absboodoo the refit became NCC-01 after the Federation was formed in the 2060s, so it ended its life as a Federation ship
I somehow thought Dauntless was the same size as Voyager
What about the Enterprise J? That's the biggest Federation ship.
Universe Class, Universe Class, size of the entire universe and it's usually kind to smaller ships; it's got a chronometer with a minute hand, a millennium hand, and an eon hand!
Uss Vengeance?
@@steve9084prime timeline ONLY, no bloody JJprise here
I'm pretty sure a Luna class is bigger than a California class.
It should not. The Luna class is very compact and the California class is very spread out. The California seems very big but it does not have much internal space other then the saucer.
Always love being able to get some idea of size and scale of these ships and things. Thought you might have put the enterprise d as the galaxy class ship to help people see the difference between the early enterprise and the next gen one.
Undoubtedly the most prominent early Galaxy-class starship was the Federation flagship USS Enterprise-D, which, apart from two brief periods under the commands of William T. Riker and Edward Jellico, was commanded for its entire service history by Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
Nah, there's no way the Enterprise is the most prominent Galaxy-class starship. I highly doubt it. Extremely dubious
where do you get your 3d models ? do you make them yourself ?
No i dont. I download it from sites like sketchfab, STL finder etc...
The Size of the Norway Class is Wrong, Its 364 Meters Long
Earth Doace dock is supposed about 3 miles in height. But your measurements in meters only puts it at 2.2 miles high when I did the conversion
Get a life
Their measurement is the beam (width). Roughly 2.2 miles wide and over 3 miles tall.
@nickcabrera3982 OK I thought you were going by its height
what about the universe class?
Size of the entire universe and it's usually kind to smaller ships...
@@EdKolisuniverse class is nearly the size of a starbase
@@CASA-dy4vs its chronometer has a minute hand, a millennium hand, and an eon hand
Man this just shows how little I am versed in beta content and non canon stuff like discovery
Discovery is canon though where does it say it isn't
Just watching this video this is the first time I have heard of some of these Starship Classes and looking at the Apollo class it looks almost similar to the Nebula Class in design even though they are different Starships they look almost and I mean almost identical in design.
yeah, starfleet often reuses earlier space frames that have proven themselves and scales them up or down, always outfitted with completely new tech.
No Runabout?
How the hell did they build a ship the size of the Sovereign class before the TOS era? Discovery is non-canon hot garbage.
Why couldn't they build big? Literally the ONLY canon starfleet ship from the TOS era (until DSC) is the Enterprise and her sister ships. And there's zero canon information saying those were the largest ships of the time. They were among the most advanced, but they has nothing to do with size.
Also, the Discovery and other DSC era ships are not as large as the Sovereign, the Discovery is longer but a long string can be longer than the Sovereign, you wouldn't say it was larger. The Sovereign is a good example of size not meaning advanced, it's longer than the Galaxy class but by mass much smaller, why is it smaller when it's plainly more advanced? He'll, most of the ships from the 24th century shown here are smaller and more advanced than the Galaxy! The Intrepid is way more advanced, same for the Saber Steamrunner and Defiant.
It's almost as if higher technology allows them to make ships smaller as much as it allows them to make them bigger!
Also, Discovery is canon, you dont get to decide what's canon.
One issue I have and it's not your fault...it's more a Trek fault. Why are all of these ships names and classes using Earth name? Why do we rarely ever see a Federation ship/class named after something from Andor or Tellar?
It kinda makes sense since Enterprise established that starfleet began as earth starfleet then became the federations starfleet.
My fan theory goes thusly, upon the founding of the federation most member worlds had a long history of conflict and mistrust, Andorians may not want to serve with or under Vulcans just yet. They certainly don't want the Vulcan fleet having free reign through their space and they don't want to depend totally on them for defense.
So the solution is easy, earth is as neutral as they come, they become the capitol of the federation and their starfleet becomes the official exploratory branch of the federation and are allowed free access to all member world space. Member worlds largely maintain local fleets and starfleets generally weaker technology is bolstered by a coalition fleet in times of war early on.
the growing effectiveness of starfleet means they don't really expand much beyond their own space in a military sense over time.
There are times when I think we can see more alien influences in star fleet though, the older ships in DSC often look like they could be built using mixed starfleet and member worlds technology, the USS Shran in particular looks a lot like a starfleet saucer with Andorian cruiser nacelles. And the ships developed in response to the Borg like the steamrunner and Saber class both look kinda alien in design and my going theory is starfleet called upon the member worlds to help design a diverse fleet to counter Borg adaptation.
A common misconception of humans. Many common words and expressions from around the federation SOUND similar to english.
For instance "H'mir A'Anda" is Andorian for "a delicate flat dish on which food is served".
"En'turp Rise" comes from an obscure southern Vulcan dialect and the closest literal translation is " Sex Machine"
@@DrewLSsix So the Federation is more like the United Nations, or the Planetary Union (from The Orville), than an actual sovereign nation? And the humans are the only ones that everyone else can get along with?
It was also quite possible that other than the Earth Fleet that become the Federation Fleet. The other major member may have kept their own fleet as local defense force.
Racism
I don't get why or how almost every size is completely wrong in these vids. Why does it have to be that way lol
whats wrong?
Because the creators are only out to get views and pump out videos without doing proper research and care
@@keyboardt8276 oh i did and pls tell me whats wrong with the sizes
Cool. Tell me more about this Human spaceship. Is it like a spacesuit?
That’s the USS Alabama: you just strap a small warp core to your back and you boldly go where no man has gone before!
Where’s the NX-01 enterprise?
nx-01 was before the formation of the Federation - it was just Star Fleet so not a "Federation - Class" Ship.
@@paulwheelan1106 But he included the 'Phoenix' which was made before Starfleet
i included that bcs its the 1st earth warp ship and as a reference
@@paulwheelan1106 then technically you should have also included ship classes from the Federation of the Kelvin timeline.
@@OptimusWombat I thought some of those ones with the weird bulbous nacelles were from the Kelvin timeline? Where else would they be from?
How did you get the 3D models for these ships?
from different websites
@@_DataMiner_ What a helpful response.
wouldn't veger count since it was a human probe?
are u referring to "the intruder" ? if it is then no bcs its not a federation vessel
@@_DataMiner_ no I'm referring to vger from the motion picture, it's made up of 3 parts the probe (voyager 6) the ship and the cloud (witch is part of vger and spans about 3AU
@@CristySFM1234 it's still not a federation vessel, this isn't just human ships its specifically federation ships.
why wasn't the enterprise from beyond
Not canon
So why wasn’t the Universe class included?
To my knowledge universe class was introduced in star trek online
And i have tried to avoid ships from star trek online
@@_DataMiner_ it was in cannon enterprise episode azati prime
ah i forgot about that one isnt that the battle with sphere builders?
@@_DataMiner_ yes though it's full shot was on a display it's actual appearance is technically cannon much like the original ambassador class design though never actually seen a display model of it in the conference room on the enterprise d confirms it existed
@@_DataMiner_ temporal Cold War