I don’t think his pride was hurt it’s more of cam was out of line for speaking on that man business. He could’ve told them he was president without exposing beans
@@stryfelyfe01 I’d take Kanye any day over all them Harlem Blunt rollers and Philadelphia stick up men. julez, jimmy, oschino, young chris etc…none of them dudes were about to put up Kanye numbers on they BEST day! They could have had a feature with an unreleased BIG and Pac verse on it and the album still would have went Double Bronze! Them dudes whole movement wasn’t going NO WHERE. That’s a fact!! In 2023 juelz couldn’t sell a durag in a barbershop, while Ye is selling sneakers exclusively in hospitals. SYBAU!!
Yeah Beanz, showem the right way to do it,when u got an issue with someone, u talk to them in PRIVATE, say whatchu men, RESPECTFULLY, n mean whatchu say!!!!!
Dame himself said that Cam was wrong for this. Dame said “the conversation between Cam and I was intended to stay between him and me. Not for him to repeat what I told him on TV”. Dame didn’t even get a chance to run it by Jay or Biggs before Cam went told the whole world. Dame wanted Cam and Beans to take over day to day business at the ROC so that him, Biggs and Jay could focus on other business ventures.
That's grown man handling of a situation I heard you say something i didn't appreciate and seen you directly and respectfully to let you know that You in turn respectfully clarified the situation and the intent Situation squashed just like that
What are you talking about? We all know Jay was in his ear after that egging him more but Beans knew he didn't know the biz, but his pride was hurt, that's why it didn't go all out like that. I respect Beans for pulling him outside, these young bucks would have blown up cause Jay and Meek was there and it would have been a whole different scenario. Figures, he sat with the dude that didn't vouch for him the only time he dealt with court and his artists, meanwhile Dame went all out, put something on the books, made sure families were taken care of... but he's the clown by his personality.
And where did that mindset get Beans in the end lol?? New Yorkers don't talk slick, we just blunt honest. Cuz at thr end of the day, Beans really wasn't on top of his business. And ended up going to prison for some petty street shit on top of that smh
Gov didn’t like it because it wasn’t true. Cam’s best selling album sold the same as Jay’s worst selling album. And Cam needed Jay’s chain around his neck to do even that.
@tony4534 by saying take over he's talking about how dipset came in and elevated rocafella. Cam was offered the VP role on the label. Dipset along with state property gave rocafella the streets and a chokehold on the rap game. Jay was already playing the background by this time.....that sounds like a takeover to me my brother
They're all gonna talk and talk and talk about it. In the process they're gonna blame Jay, and then they're gonna absolve him, the more they talk. As for Jay, it's not the most important part of his career.
I understand both sides. These are street dudes who are learning the game with no mentors, they handled the misunderstanding like men and handled it. G ish ✊🏾
Dame out here starting stuff and creating narratives..😂😂 If he was the Boss that conversation shouldn't have ever happened when Dame was the one who actually stirred it up
Expose is a horrible word to use. He just simply explained what happened when they had a conversation about the situation. Respect for two brothers who handled the situation like brothers.
That's a legitimate gripe. I agree with Beans. Just because Dame said that you don't have to repeat it. It's always what you say and how you say. So I do understand where Beans is coming from.
Beans was probably damn near putting Cam in the yolk while spitting on Cam face when he was talking 😂 Beans at that time spit when he talk and was not that calm
Why did Cam had to throw Dame under the bus 🚌 though? The words came out of your own mouth, just own it and your apology would still have been accepted.
Dame didn't make Cam the scapegoat, Cam was wrong for airing what Dame told him in private on Rap City. Dame's plan was to make Cam a VP cause Cam had Diplomats and make Dame a VP cause he had State Property.
Beans ain't say it like that beans said that with aggression he was breaking people's faces back then and that's facts we from the same City he's from South Philly I'm from North Philly Badlands 🇵🇷🔥🇵🇷🔥
If it’s mutual respect he would. Grown men convo. Even gangster are humans. The toughest dudes behind the G-Wall drop a few tears don’t get it twisted just cuz nobody sees it don’t think it doesn’t happen.
@@BigBadWolf_357 I don’t know him, but why in that moment he couldn’t say plz man? His family could of contact him asking him about how much money he really making etc we don’t know. Also Beans didn’t respond to this and went on to do tracks with Killa. I believe he said it doesn’t make him soft. Reason our generation way it is. Showing your human doesn’t make you soft
and in the end Beanz didn't know the Business
Facts.
At all
And JAY didn't even have the panache to shoot it straight with Beans.
@@GSnugg Jay was mad Dame elevated Cam so quickly because it made him look bad because I’m sure Beans was thinking why didn’t Hov put me in position?
At all. Still don't
This is how misunderstandings should be handled. There was humility between both and no disrespect.
Or just keep shit to yourself and don’t go broadcasting it before it happens. You see he never became president
Right!…And a lot of lives lost over lack of communication.
@@jayar17708 Yes, unfortunately.
Grown man shit
Well... if u kno Beans it probably was a lil more than tht
Beans step to Killer like a real man and they talked like real men.
Real comment 💯
Thts what I got from it
killa*
@@AlexCastro1 Douche.
Cam wasn’t no hoe so he has to talk to him like that cam had niggas backing him 😂
Beanie even said in recent years that Dame was right and he didnt know shxt bout the business at that time. he pride was just hurt
Big l was bout to get signed to roc a fella and you got big l killed and then you got little Leroy killed . You a bum cansrun and soon you will pay...
DONT FORGET JAY DID!!!!!!!AND LET HIM FURTHERMORE CEMENT JAYZ BEING A FUCKING SNAKE
I don’t think his pride was hurt it’s more of cam was out of line for speaking on that man business. He could’ve told them he was president without exposing beans
I was thinking that in this clip... he was worried about "looking bad" but saying someone doesn't fully understand the business isn't even a diss...
No. Beans was being manipulated by Jay.
But looking back,beans didn't know his business
And Most rappers don't
Still not a reason to air it out
Not even a little bit
Yeah but you still shouldn't go on national television and try to humiliate a guy. Teach him, guide him, or shut up.
@nothingleft3473 true but speaking on his time on the Roc... nothing wrong with that
Cam & Beans always had a solid relationship.. Just two grown men solving a misunderstanding.. Internet trolls won't understand..
Aww ❤
He kinda low key threw dame under the bus
@@Dennis-bu9gr I mean, the truth is the truth.
Rico and Beans from state property would take over any city before eventually killing eachother for the top spot 😂😂
Facts bro
THE GOOD OL' DAYS, WHERE 2 MEN SPEAK TO EACH OTHER, FACE TO FACE. NOT LIKE TODAY WITH THIS SOCIAL MEDIA!!!!
No Doubt.
When it was all said and done Kanye was the last man standing with the ROC
I remember doubting ye pick over dame
Dame tried to pull it, Jay checkmated TF out em
Dame put Koonye on. Jay wanted him doing beats only. Then his snake ass went with Jay
Kanye is the roc
@@stryfelyfe01 I’d take Kanye any day over all them Harlem Blunt rollers and Philadelphia stick up men.
julez, jimmy, oschino, young chris etc…none of them dudes were about to put up Kanye numbers on they BEST day!
They could have had a feature with an unreleased BIG and Pac verse on it and the album still would have went Double Bronze!
Them dudes whole movement wasn’t going NO WHERE. That’s a fact!!
In 2023 juelz couldn’t sell a durag in a barbershop, while Ye is selling sneakers exclusively in hospitals. SYBAU!!
Smoothed it out like some men 💯
Beanie sigel might be the most underrated rapper of all time
In my top ten 💪🏾
Beans was nice!
Nah fr💪💯
💯💯💯
Chill
Cam real for that, I bet that’s exactly the way the convo went 💯
It was probably something more like aye look here scrap
😂😂😂😂😂 yep
😄😄
Facts
Yep😂😂😂😂
💯💯😂
Yeah Beanz, showem the right way to do it,when u got an issue with someone, u talk to them in PRIVATE, say whatchu men, RESPECTFULLY, n mean whatchu say!!!!!
Facts! he asked him not to do that anymore and Cam apologized like a man and they left it there 💯
And that's good business!
Respect 💯💯
People respect you a thousand times more hell you can even check them if you pull them to the side and do it in private
You brought beans to the light and he don't even know. Them behind the back talks lead to the real ending
Thanks for being the first I read that spoke REAL FACTS.
Cam 💯 percent correct
He still didn’t need to say it on tv.
Dame himself said that Cam was wrong for this. Dame said “the conversation between Cam and I was intended to stay between him and me. Not for him to repeat what I told him on TV”. Dame didn’t even get a chance to run it by Jay or Biggs before Cam went told the whole world. Dame wanted Cam and Beans to take over day to day business at the ROC so that him, Biggs and Jay could focus on other business ventures.
That's grown man handling of a situation I heard you say something i didn't appreciate and seen you directly and respectfully to let you know that You in turn respectfully clarified the situation and the intent Situation squashed just like that
NOW NJ.
Repeating what Dame said is liable to get a person slumped.☺
You will never see the LOX do this. That was the difference between the Diplomats and the LOX
Beans G-CHECKED you. 😂😂😂 And you apologized.😂😂
Beans didn’t kno the business💯
NY dudes be talkin slick, subbin and playing innocent. Beans knew what it was and was probably ready to get at Cam frfr..
Lol yeah aight. They both east coast dudes and Beans ain't know and still don't know the business.
@@realjcoop182Exactly. Beans is the antithesis of “when keeping it real, goes wrong!” 😑
Nope he spoke to him like a grown man and didn’t get in his feelings and took him to the side to talk to him
What are you talking about? We all know Jay was in his ear after that egging him more but Beans knew he didn't know the biz, but his pride was hurt, that's why it didn't go all out like that. I respect Beans for pulling him outside, these young bucks would have blown up cause Jay and Meek was there and it would have been a whole different scenario. Figures, he sat with the dude that didn't vouch for him the only time he dealt with court and his artists, meanwhile Dame went all out, put something on the books, made sure families were taken care of... but he's the clown by his personality.
And where did that mindset get Beans in the end lol?? New Yorkers don't talk slick, we just blunt honest. Cuz at thr end of the day, Beans really wasn't on top of his business. And ended up going to prison for some petty street shit on top of that smh
If they talked then that's what it was. Grown men know how to iron out they're differences
Beans checking shit on the spot 😂😂
He said "please" ...I don't consider that checking nothing..that's pleading 😅
Yea umm if you call that checking someone sounds like a man to man discussion. Wasn't any hostility involved
@mrveee12 gangstas are gentlemen too. All these guys that been to jail know how to be respectful because they know when they flip they flip
“2 times for Cam for taking ova the rock” Juelz Santana. Hov didn’t like that line in the song one bit😂😂😂😂
😂 😂 bruh..
Okay okay okay 👌🏾
Facts 😂💀
Gov didn’t like it because it wasn’t true. Cam’s best selling album sold the same as Jay’s worst selling album. And Cam needed Jay’s chain around his neck to do even that.
@tony4534 by saying take over he's talking about how dipset came in and elevated rocafella. Cam was offered the VP role on the label. Dipset along with state property gave rocafella the streets and a chokehold on the rap game. Jay was already playing the background by this time.....that sounds like a takeover to me my brother
@@TB-mj7gt exactly
They're all gonna talk and talk and talk about it. In the process they're gonna blame Jay, and then they're gonna absolve him, the more they talk. As for Jay, it's not the most important part of his career.
💯
I understand both sides. These are street dudes who are learning the game with no mentors, they handled the misunderstanding like men and handled it. G ish ✊🏾
I absolutely see why Jay Z wanted to go his own way. The man was surrounded by……
Agreed “If you want something done right then do it yourself”
He should've left that part out afterall it was a private convo vetwwen him and Dame!🏌🏿♂️
He was young and excited..it happens
I stg …Niggas talk more than women now
Pause
Big up to Cam for being a man and apologizing for hurting his brother's feelings even though it wasn't his intentions.
At least they handled the situation CIVILLY
"Beans, I ain't trying to change you, just give you some game
To make the transition from the street to the fame" Jay-Z
An this is why Jay left dame with the deals an spending behind there back
Cam and Beans should make more money moves they both know the business now
This is exactly how two men should resolve things
And this is what started the breakup of Roc-A-Fellow records
"let me talk to you for a minute" imagine if ended up go south after that 😂
That’s what happened with Beanie and Gillie Da Kid
At least beans stepped to him about it like a man, instead holding it in and dissing him in a song or something. Respect to Cam too✊🏾
That's why you can't always repeat what other men say...
Different between the success of diplomats and state property reflects this narrative🤷🏾♂️
I doubt Beans spoke to him that timidly.
😂😂😂😂
You right cams lying 🤦🏾♂️😂😂🤡
Beans is didn’t talk like that he threw punches
@@Blickymouse4 He ain't lying because he wouldn't been lump up...
U don’t talk crazy to yo homies
& that’s exactly why Beans fell off cuz he ain’t know the business although given ample business opportunities
No beans turned to a kingpin with his advance money....them feds came knocking😂
You know damn well he ain’t say please😂
please dont do dat nomo
Beans had to learn like everyone else in the business nothing wrong with not having an understanding of a situation learning is life.
yes, but Cam had no business saying that publically.
Cam shouldn't have did Beanz like that though!
That's how real man handle their business.
Men. Amongst "men"!
Dame out here starting stuff and creating narratives..😂😂 If he was the Boss that conversation shouldn't have ever happened when Dame was the one who actually stirred it up
Expose is a horrible word to use. He just simply explained what happened when they had a conversation about the situation. Respect for two brothers who handled the situation like brothers.
He was 1000% correct, and the truth hurts..
Insecurities will end a lot of good business.
It should've been Bleek. He would still be president now.
This is Killa. Then new teeth got him lookin weird as hell 😂😂😂
we not gon address the fact he apologized like a REAL MAN even tho he was RIGHT??.. THATS how a leader moves.. 💯💯🫡🫡
I wish Cam would’ve kept these teeth. They were authentic
That whole thing at Rocafella just sounded awkward and dysfunctional
Diplomats were more successful as a group over state property
Well obviously it was true, beans didn’t know the business 😂
This why Jay did his own thing Dame was on bs
Grown man slurring like he had his first drink.
It’s called a lisp, you couldn’t see the big ass gap in bro teeth?
THREW DAME ALL THE WAY UNDER THE BUS 😂😂😂
Dame tried to push Jay out of the empire he built.
That's a legitimate gripe. I agree with Beans. Just because Dame said that you don't have to repeat it. It's always what you say and how you say. So I do understand where Beans is coming from.
Spoken like a 🥷 that don’t understand the business
Cam knows that telling beans what Dame said about him was stirring the pot on the low smh
🤣🤣🤣💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
He was also shook so technically he snitched on Dame…
Come ta find out Beans didn't know the business
100%
But that should’ve been kept in house. That was his business.
"looka here young scrapper I got nephews and kids to look after"
Cam is stating facts 💯
Beans said years ago that Dame owes him money
The end of the roc as we know it
Sad but true… Way after it’s been rumored Hov and Dame ain’t seeing eye to eye too.
That was all Jay, causing BS between Dipset & State Prop.
They handled it like men though 🫡
Exposed himself ctfu😂😂😂
I'm sure Beans didn't ask camoron, "please" wtf especially back then foh lol
Word.. beans Definitely approach him aggressively
If beef never happened the roc will go far
Beanz said please because if you do I'll Nevermind
Beans said later that he didn't know the business
Cam forever my favorite artist I started wearing pink because of this nigga
How Grown Men should Handle Business & Give Respect & Honor before Schitt falls apart.
Beans was definitely not saying please…
There's ways of saying please when it is for the benefit of you rather than them
You’re a clown. Nobody saying he was saying it in a begging way
@@slyblu9489 and that makes me a clown how? The mannerisms in which killa Cam claimed beans said sorry is completely incorrect.
"Much Love To The Homie 👑King Cameron💯✍🏾"...-👑Revelation.©️®️♾️✔️
Dame was right tho and I like how beans handle this
yeah, inconveinient truth coming in 5...4...3...2... REAL MEN APOLOGIZE!
Sometimes the truth hurts.
Rico straight snitched 😂😂😂
Thats shouldnt been said still. This can still lead to some shit.
Beanz is the Greatest that never gets recognized as a top mcee
Ion think Beans said please but I get it 😂😂
Beans was probably damn near putting Cam in the yolk while spitting on Cam face when he was talking 😂 Beans at that time spit when he talk and was not that calm
Yeah, like please don't make me have to do this bro.
Jay was never as big as Cam big Facts 💯💯💯
Beans a real street nigga the office ain't for him
Why did Cam had to throw Dame under the bus 🚌 though?
The words came out of your own mouth, just own it and your apology would still have been accepted.
Cam so egotistical he didn't know Dame wS using him as the escape goat
Dame didn't make Cam the scapegoat, Cam was wrong for airing what Dame told him in private on Rap City. Dame's plan was to make Cam a VP cause Cam had Diplomats and make Dame a VP cause he had State Property.
Why hire a getaway drive when you have an escape goat?
That’s why the rock broke up, dame being dame
Cam came a LONG way with the teeth
Beans ain't say it like that beans said that with aggression he was breaking people's faces back then and that's facts we from the same City he's from South Philly I'm from North Philly Badlands 🇵🇷🔥🇵🇷🔥
Cam is a really god business. Smart
Beans could've been so much bigger if he wanted to be business savvy instead of a gangsta still in my top 5 though
"Furver" not further
Yea you ain’t have to say that publicly cam
Beans ain't say no "please man"
If it’s mutual respect he would. Grown men convo. Even gangster are humans. The toughest dudes behind the G-Wall drop a few tears don’t get it twisted just cuz nobody sees it don’t think it doesn’t happen.
@@soloexperience na u dont know beans then
@@BigBadWolf_357 I don’t know him, but why in that moment he couldn’t say plz man? His family could of contact him asking him about how much money he really making etc we don’t know. Also Beans didn’t respond to this and went on to do tracks with Killa. I believe he said it doesn’t make him soft. Reason our generation way it is. Showing your human doesn’t make you soft
Cam has the best story telling voice