About time you checked out a Ford Transit! Plus, Pleasure Way is one of the best constructed van out there, and it is backed by a 5-year warranty. At just under 6'3" in height, the Pro Master and Mercedes do not have the headroom, especially with shoes on, but as you discovered, the Transits have the best headroom of the van chassis options. Two other well made Transits are the Coachmen Beyond and American Coach/Midwest Automotive Design. If you have a chance test drive one, it has the most powerful engine of any van option as well, and you will be impressed. Also, the 2024 model will have a 600AH lithium battery, 3000 watt inverter, and the truma adventa AC. The models up to the 2023 have a 200AH lithium battery and 2000 watt inverter and the AC you saw. I am actually looking for a low mileage model up to 2022, cuz they enlarged an already large bathroom for the 2023 model, shortening the bed from 79" to 76" (grrrr!).
The 2024 upgrades sound huge to me. I wonder with the upgraded inverter and batteries if you could run the AC and the convection oven at the same time? I have read this was not possible on the 2023.
for the 2024 you can now run the AC off the inverter, but not sure about running both the AC and convection oven at the sametime. Pleasure Way is retaining the generator even with the inverter/battery upgrades. I spoke to one of the factory reps, and he said they were not comfortable not having without the generator as an additional charging source. Pleasure Way is known for being conservative with their builds. @@toddodle8688
We had an Ontour as we loved the Transit chassis. WE choose this over the Coachmen Beyond due to the better build quality and great warranty. BUT we traded it in after only a year as we HATED the rear lounge area and having to make and break the bed everyday. AFter a few months it was ONLY in the bed position (like many others) so with the bed made we had no lounge area options (except the front swivel seats) which help but isn't a lounge. any of these couch to bed sets always require a mattress topper to not feel the seems between the cushions. so when you make the lounge you have to store the topper, and all of the bedding somewhere. total PIA I'm also tall, but love the pizza oven. Expensive lesson learned, having a fixed bed and lounge is critical.
Hi guys, we love your videos. You guys are a lot of fun and we love your honesty. We got a 2023 Ontour 2.2 a couple months ago and are currently on our first long trip, Jupiter, Fla to Mt Gretna, PA. We are loving the Ontour. I drive a Transit at work and already knew I loved that chassis. Drove the BlueRidge parkway on the way up and it handled like a dream. We are so happy with our Pleasureway. Got a good price too. $140k sale price. Going to Hershey RV show on Wednesday. Can’t wait to see the new 2024 Pleasureway. Thanks again for your videos and safe travels. 😊
Hi! Congrats on your 2023 Ontour 2.2! So exciting! So sorry you are having issues with getting your deposit back...that's terrible of them! Have fun at Hershey RV this week!
Fellow tall girl here - this summer we rented a camper conversion on a transit chassis and it was wonderful. The driving experience is so superior (IMO!) than any other chassis we’ve tried - just like driving a large car.
Hey you guys.... hopefully 3rd time is a charm..... Might I suggest that you look at the Embassy Dolphin.... it's on a Ford Transit platform.... unfortunately, you'll have to go to Elkhart Indiana to look at the showroom.
Just started the video…we have an OnTour 2.2, 2021.5. I’m 6 1 and we just added a storage shelf in the cab. It is fantastic. I am careful moving into the rear, but again, the added ad-hoc storage is great. To each his own. I’ll send you a pic if you want to me it.
You love that it’s a Ford…but you would really love the buildout quality of the Pleasure-Way. The extra bucks over a Thor means higher quality build. Hope you two are back on the road soon!
Nice RV! It's good to see prices are coming back down to earth. During peak Covid they got spoiled with over the top pricing but those days are l-o-n-g gone. I'd say they need to drop a few more dollars on that one to make it a good deal. Thanks for the tour!
Great review. My storyteller is on the exact same ford chassis I love ford pass system that gives feedback to you iPhone on engine and all the different ford items. You can see miles remaining on your gas tank In California the Ford dealer not all will service the camper transit van you have to go to a Fleet dealership this is do the weight of van vs their lifts ability. Not all fleet dealerships will do so if you ever go with a ford make sure the dealership that can service you. Always tell the service appointment desk it is a RV Again enjoying your reviews. I have fun watching
I owned a Pleasureway van for 15 years built on the old E-350 chassis. When I bought it I believed the advantage of the Ford is that everyone would service it. That turned out not to be the case. The Ford dealer in Portland was happy to service it, but my hometown Ford would not. Even the commercial Ford truck dealer in my area would not service it. I ended up doing my own oil changes and having an independent garage work on it. Their service bay was not tall enough for the van, but they serviced it outside their service bay. I live in California and even the smog check cost more because it was an RV when really for smog purposes it was just a boring old Ford van.
There's alot to like about the Transit. Search up the Roadtrek Pivot Slumber. It will be coming with or w/the popup in Oct.. amazing storage and maybe the best bath I've seen
We almost bought a RT Zion Slumber basically the Ram Version of of the Ontours. Another Great small Canadian manufacturer that takes pride in what they build instead of pumping out a poor quality subpar product that will constantly be at the dealer. Ultimately we went with the transit. The RAM chassis still lacks power and the AWD/ or dually wheels in the rwd. The Ram finally caught up a bit with their new digital dash and large screen and transmission update. They are finally listening!
Great film work and I like that you didn’t open e v e r y single cupboard. The isle seemed too narrow and I think I would prefer a happy jack bed (elevator bed).
Just bought a 2021.5 with 1800 miles. It took me over a year of research and I kept coming back to the PW OT. Best quality Transit build out there from an RV manufacturer. The 2024s will be even better. 600amph lithium and they finally went to the Truma Aventa AC. So all Truma appliances on board.
Hey, we are in Yuma camping. Had we known you were going through we could have had breakfast or lunch. Maybe we will see you in Quartzite next month. Nice trip by the way. Can’t wait to see part two. Love the festive music.
On our coachmen beyond on the Ford transit we took the awning off because of how it looked. All I could think of was a plumber's van plus like you said it would be useless for rain. But we just went boondocking in the badlands and an awning for the sun would have been nice. Still glad we took it off
Another great video! I looked hard at a Pleasure-Way, but they still have 90-degree angles everywhere. The cabinets above, the kitchen counter, etc. I can see a deep, dark blue bruise from each of those sharp corners when I bang into them (which is unavoidable in a van). Did you see that edge of the kitchen counter nearest to the bed???? Omg, it's a double-90-degree edge that would impale you. All they'd have to do is router them into rounded corners. It makes me think that none of the brass at Pleasure-Way (or most other manufacturers) has ever lived in a camper van.
We can vouch for the Ford Transit 350 HD AWD chassis....we've had ours for almost 3 years and LOVE it! We have the Coachmen Beyond RB....the Beyonds are built on the Ford Transit chassis and just a little less money then the Pleasure-Way.
No on that AC. It is LOUD, LOUD, LOUD. Also, that wasn't an ice maker, that was the freezer! Not much space. Don't give up on your twin bed floor plan. That sofa/bed system is not that comfortable and the back of the sofa stores a bit but once the bed is down you lose a lot of space plus you smell what ever is back there. I had a similar floorplan (Grech Strada). I agree about the Ford chassis though. I hated the Mercedes and it is much more expensive to have worked on. I like the Coachmen Beyond (Ford Chassis) but the back windows don't open 😞and the Nova is on the Ram but I like it. Keep bringing the videos!
After owning a camper van with lithium batteries and discovering the freedom it gives of never having to plug in for electricity, it is now the most important feature to me. Also getting at least 600ah so the a/c lasts all night with out the engine turning on to charge.
Loving my Sanctuary built on the Transit 350 AWD chassis -- plenty of power, lots of up-to-date safety, convenience, entertainment features (and they all work well), OK gas mileage. Lower price than the Pleasureway and Thor fixed all the niggling quality issues quickly using a Mobile RV repair tech.
@@Vancaskeys we’re in Peoria(N W valley), should you need a day of laundry, home cooking, unlimited hot water please ping and my husband and I would be very happy to host you.
Nice walk thru. But please, don’t confuse a higher end coach builder vs Thor, and Ford vs RAM. We have a Travato, and have had none of the Coach issues you’ve had. I very nice coach can be built on the Promaster frame.
We are taking our unfinished Transit on its first two week trip to Niagara Falls and Acadia National Park on Sept 15. Lets hope I get the sink and cabinet built before then. It is all function and primer currently. I thought of trying to make a first impression video of the van and build ideas that worked and failed. If you have words if wisdom, it would be appreciated. You guys make it look easy and I believe it due to talent and attitude.
Pleasure way vans are top notch units and have a fantastic warranty!! I think a rival to them is the Embassy B van. Certainly less $$$ and on the Ford cutaway too. I’ve never seen one at a show but I believe their HQ is Dallas. Good reason for a quick road-trip!! I was in No Cal for a cool vacation so I missed the West World show. Great content as always!!
Love the Ford Transit! My Beyond is on the 2020 AWD Chassis and it's been wonderful to drive, I've driven in snowy, rainy and windy conditions and it handled beautifully. It's actually our second vehicle! And like the RAM there are dealers everywhere if you need one while on the road!
Check out the Coachmen Beyond 22C with a very similar floor plan. Coachmen orders the Transit right, with extended mirrors, HID headlights, the overhead storage tray and extra storage on the console. While the Pleasure Way bathroom is nice, my wife and I preferred the larger fridge in the Beyond. Our first RV was a 2021 Thor Gemini and the quality difference between our Beyond and Thor is night and day. Best wishes on your next purchase.
Beautiful van. Outstanding quality. But just not in love with the layout. Plenty of height but seems so tight. I have a sequence 20L and seems more spacious.
Great all-around van, thanks for reviewing it! Like you, Hillary, if I had the budget, the Transit AWD is my ideal platform. $154K is not the craziest price I have seen for this platform, all the features, and the Pleasureway QC reputation. 👍🏼Looks like solar on the roof, but have to scope out the power and HVAC standard and optional features on the manufacturer website 🤔 Thanks again!
Curious when I looked at the transit though the interior had a bit more head room myself at 6’3” I found the exit/slide was lower than the MB, did ya’ll notice that or maybe I was having a senior moment that day 🤣. I still say Bob is still dreaming of the STO pull the trigger 😉. Thanks for sharing you two, always enjoy your vids, wife and I always hope to cross paths w/you two on the road…. Be safe out there keep making/ releasing the videos and lastly. We both hope your father is doing well…
The MB is a better platform for a class B, the higher side door being one of the reasons and I would love a good diesel. A little research on MB reliability makes me willing to put up with a lower side door. The 4 cylinder MB diesel is reported to be better than their notorious V-6 diesel but the Ford has stronger statistics behind it at the moment. A red flag is that MB has a warranty that is the industry bare minimum.
Coachman makes the class B model you like with twin beds and rear bath on a Ford. I like the AWD and LI3 package. It cost about the same maybe a little more than the pleasure-way. Maybe you can find one at the show. I think having the bathroom in the middle of the RV seems cramped.
My only negative would be is that it seems cramped from the kitchen area back. There are lots of cabinets which is nice but I think that is what makes it seem a bit cramped. Also was there a table you could setup and eat from or work from?
:) WOW! Nice rig indeed, but as you say, a little out of budget, BUT the height inside for you is a GREAT! Being shorter and shrinking, not so much for me :) I think it's also the quality of the brand that demands more $$$$. ALL the BEST and THANKS for sharing! Cheers from the Left Coast!!! :)
What I don’t understand was why they put the stovetop next to the benches where there is no protection or side to keep grease, etc from splashing and possibly staining the upholstery. This is not with Lithium batteries? Also, what do you keep in your pizza oven now & where would you store it in here? I definitely see with the pizza oven gone and it is an open space is a definite plus with both of you being tall. Pleasureway is quality+ above the Tellaro.
Got one off the lot here in California. Knock 10k off the show price and drive it home. I got the 2023. Yes the 2024 would be nice, but the up price was not , ( at this time), a reason to get a 2024. I’m not a off grid guy.
It was nice, what’s the fresh, grey and black water capacities? We book dock a lot, so that’s a number we always look at. Did it have a generator onboard? I like Fords too! Love the channel. We will be out in your neck of the woods in early October. Hope to see you guys at Quartzsite!
Few b van companies can match pleasure way’s build quality. The only one which can beat pleasureway quality is panoramic rv who is also in Canada. But they don’t have us dealership partnership. The puzzle bed layout may not be what you want. You have to chance from bed to table all the time. Panoramic rv has a always on bed and living room both. Check that out.
Ive wanted an Airstream on a Mercedes for as long as I can remember. Watching recent reviews and vloggers have issues with both, the Transit would be my next choice. Grech and Pleasure-Way would be two manufacturers id consider now.
Anybody know what these "really" sell for when purchasing? I've also looked at the Entegra Expanse, Jayco Solstice which are also built on the same Ford chassis but don't know the quality difference between those and the Pleasure Way for an additional 30k more.
As a '23 Thor Tellaro 20J owner, I would really miss the front lounging area similar to your 20A's front "lounge" area. We swivel the front seats and hang on them and the bench and play boardgames and cards every trip. Our 20J has the identical rear lounge/bedroom convertible setup as this Pleasure-Way does, but like yourselves, we leave the bed perma-made (too much hassle to make a bed everyday damnit!). Didn't see Bob mention anything about power (batteries/panels/invertor/generator) etc but did see x3 panels up top? Really appreciate seeing a Ford interior vs the RAM, but couldn't bring myself to buy a Van with a model name that sounds like a "made for her sex-toy" :P
Once again nice job. Thank you guys, always look forward to your videos. Bob don't tell Hillary but buy the duelly and a jeep to pull. Sell mister lemon and her car. I know she will be pissed but. Go for a drive in the jeep with the top down play some groovy music and wallah your back in the saddle. Glad I could help.
I think it's very expensive for what it is... you didn't mention anything about it's solar power or heating capabilities, that icemaker is tiny, can't fit anything really to keep frozen... not sure, I wouldn't put this one on my list of contenders...
I wouldn't exactly classify this as a "dream van" by any means. My top pick for a Class B van would be the Unity Twin Bed offered by Leisure Travel Vans of Canada.
I agree with the fact that the Ford Transit Chassis is a great combo with a camper van. We have a Coachman 2023 Beyond 22C on the Ford Transit Chassis that will probably be for sale soon. So, if you find one to go through and take a look, let me know. It has only been on two little trips. Happy hunting and I hope you find what you are looking for soon...let me know if you want to chat about our unit. Peace...
Yea, I realize it's probably not in the cards. Why don't you make videos of you guys fixing up your van instead? It's like your teasing yourself to get a new van, knowing you can't get a new one. You could probably do a much better job.
@@VanlilfewithDaleandBailey Honestly...we have thought about doing just that. But we do love going to shows and seeing what's out there. It's fun to us lol
I was a big fan of the Transit 5-6 yrs ago, but I know too many people who've had quality issues in the past few years & the Transit now feels tired & dated to me. The extra 6" width in the Promaster is a big plus for me, too. If I loved everything else about a coach on a Transit, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'd proceed with caution.
Dual rear wheels provide extra stability and give the advantage of extra weight capacity. Aside from the expense of buying two extra tires, I don't see your point. What price do you put on your personal safety? I love having dual rear wheels. Just make sure you have a tire pressure monitoring system.
@@Vancaskeys just two more tires to worry about, you can’t just glance down and see if they are fully inflated (and I know they make tire monitoring) but again another gadget to trust and depend on. Plus when it comes time to replace …4 is cheaper than 6.
@@lynnknight2046 - Of course 4 is less expensive than 6 tires.... that's obvious. Lynn, my point is focused on safety, not the cost. Actually, it's all very expensive. And, even though I love the benefits of driving a diesel, excellent fuel economy, and, the possibility of the engine living longer than me ( LOL). The diesel engines have been known to go 300,000 to 500,000 miles. That's not to say that other stuff besides the base engine won't fall, but, the motor is very robust. I don't think I have the time or energy to drive 500,000 miles... that is a very long distance.... Maintaining a diesel is more expensive as well.... So, you make choices....I wouldn't trade my 6 tires for 4..... that was a prerequisite for buying my RV.....If you think about it, the vehicle is almost 10 feet tall.... losing a tire is very dangerous. I have my tires replaced every 60 months regardless of mileage. That's very expensive too. That was $2,000.....
Everybody please stop overpaying. These things can be had for at least 25% off msrp. US made vans from say Winnebago or Thor are going for 35% or greater discounts. Shop around and be willing to walk-and do walk.
Do a custom build. You get what you want. Cheaper than these vans you guys keep looking at. Never mount your batteries under your van if you want to do winter camping.
The spec says a maximum of 1600 pounds but once you load up, I bet it drops to about 1000 pounds. Don't like that Pleasure-Way only lists the 25 gallon fuel tank and not the available upgraded 31 gallon tank.
Actually they’re some of the best cabinets, drawers and hinges plus build quality in the RV industry. I’d take a Pleasure-Way over any of the Indiana RV manufacturers any day of the week.
This would not work for me for several reasons but I will start by saying that I do like and prefer the Ford chasis. However, I am not into playing Tetris every morning and night to go to bed. Give me a fixed bed. I like the comfortable bathroom but it is literally against the driver’s seat and you can’t recline. I would also need a full fridge, especially a bigger freezer. And lastly, the price tag, I could not justify paying that much for a class B when I can get a B+ or C and even a class A for the same and even less. Ok I get off my soap box now.
I like Pleasure Way quality, but they need to stop putting all the ugly cutouts and huge branding on the van body. It ruins the clean look of the van and makes it impossible to stealth camp since it stands out like a sore thumb. They also need to offer an all electric package that eliminates the propane system and Onan generator, and uses the chassis fuel for heat and hot water. A lot of buyers simply don't want the added weight and safety concerns of propane. This would be easily doable since they now offer a 600 amp lithium battery, 3000 watt inverter, 300 watt solar, and they can add a 2nd alternator for fast charging while driving. I also don't like any of the interior color choices. I prefer a darker look and it's a mistake not offering a darker interior option. Also, the chassis needs the upgraded LED lighting. Halogen headlights on an expensive coach like this is inexcusable. These simple changes would make the Ontour one of the best B vans on the market, but as it is currently I would pass.
Ford is the best of them all. Ram Promaster is poorly made. The sprinter service is the worst. If I had to do it again I would get a ford. Never again will I purchase a Mercedes Benz. Not because of the quality but the service is the worst. I can not tell you enough about the problems we have had because of mercedes service. One working Key and they will not make another. Go figure.
Just remember 12mpg not 17 .
But pleasure way the best choice .
Super high-quality .
That’s a very good point. Thanks for sharing! Love that you have one!
I love our pizza oven storage in our B van, and I’m 6’2”. It’s where we put large and heavy items, such as our sunshades
Very cool!
Love the quality of these but there’s not much inside storage room for gear if your an outdoorsy type.
Thanks for laying on the bed. It looked a lot bigger before you layed down. 😊
You bet! LOL. Agree!
About time you checked out a Ford Transit! Plus, Pleasure Way is one of the best constructed van out there, and it is backed by a 5-year warranty. At just under 6'3" in height, the Pro Master and Mercedes do not have the headroom, especially with shoes on, but as you discovered, the Transits have the best headroom of the van chassis options. Two other well made Transits are the Coachmen Beyond and American Coach/Midwest Automotive Design. If you have a chance test drive one, it has the most powerful engine of any van option as well, and you will be impressed. Also, the 2024 model will have a 600AH lithium battery, 3000 watt inverter, and the truma adventa AC. The models up to the 2023 have a 200AH lithium battery and 2000 watt inverter and the AC you saw. I am actually looking for a low mileage model up to 2022, cuz they enlarged an already large bathroom for the 2023 model, shortening the bed from 79" to 76" (grrrr!).
The 2024 upgrades sound huge to me. I wonder with the upgraded inverter and batteries if you could run the AC and the convection oven at the same time? I have read this was not possible on the 2023.
@@toddodle8688I believe AC is connected to generator only.
Though the transit is narrower… and the cab is much smaller tighter than a Sprinter. I’ll take the better cab and driving position of a Sprinter.
I like the mercedes, but need the headroom of the Transit.@@JohnSeitz
for the 2024 you can now run the AC off the inverter, but not sure about running both the AC and convection oven at the sametime. Pleasure Way is retaining the generator even with the inverter/battery upgrades. I spoke to one of the factory reps, and he said they were not comfortable not having without the generator as an additional charging source. Pleasure Way is known for being conservative with their builds.
@@toddodle8688
We had an Ontour as we loved the Transit chassis. WE choose this over the Coachmen Beyond due to the better build quality and great warranty. BUT we traded it in after only a year as we HATED the rear lounge area and having to make and break the bed everyday. AFter a few months it was ONLY in the bed position (like many others) so with the bed made we had no lounge area options (except the front swivel seats) which help but isn't a lounge. any of these couch to bed sets always require a mattress topper to not feel the seems between the cushions. so when you make the lounge you have to store the topper, and all of the bedding somewhere. total PIA
I'm also tall, but love the pizza oven.
Expensive lesson learned, having a fixed bed and lounge is critical.
Pleasure Way and Leisure Travel Van are both Canadian companies and make some of the best B and B+ RV’s
Yep. You forgot to touch on Quality. PW is right at the top.
Hi guys, we love your videos. You guys are a lot of fun and we love your honesty. We got a 2023 Ontour 2.2 a couple months ago and are currently on our first long trip, Jupiter, Fla to Mt Gretna, PA. We are loving the Ontour. I drive a Transit at work and already knew I loved that chassis. Drove the BlueRidge parkway on the way up and it handled like a dream. We are so happy with our Pleasureway. Got a good price too. $140k sale price. Going to Hershey RV show on Wednesday. Can’t wait to see the new 2024 Pleasureway. Thanks again for your videos and safe travels. 😊
Hi! Congrats on your 2023 Ontour 2.2! So exciting! So sorry you are having issues with getting your deposit back...that's terrible of them! Have fun at Hershey RV this week!
Spoke to someone from the other manufacturer at the show. They are going to bat for us and looks like we will get it back. 😊
@@buddythejeepdog yay!!!!!!!
Fellow tall girl here - this summer we rented a camper conversion on a transit chassis and it was wonderful. The driving experience is so superior (IMO!) than any other chassis we’ve tried - just like driving a large car.
Oh I love this! Thanks for sharing!
Hey you guys.... hopefully 3rd time is a charm..... Might I suggest that you look at the Embassy Dolphin.... it's on a Ford Transit platform.... unfortunately, you'll have to go to Elkhart Indiana to look at the showroom.
We clearly need to. You are the second one to tell us this!
Just started the video…we have an OnTour 2.2, 2021.5. I’m 6 1 and we just added a storage shelf in the cab. It is fantastic. I am careful moving into the rear, but again, the added ad-hoc storage is great. To each his own. I’ll send you a pic if you want to me it.
Yes we'd love to see a photo!
@@VancaskeysI am stumped on how to attach. An email?
@@davidthomson5183 Yes. Sorry our email is vancaskeys@gmail.com :)
You love that it’s a Ford…but you would really love the buildout quality of the Pleasure-Way. The extra bucks over a Thor means higher quality build. Hope you two are back on the road soon!
Yes! We are back on the road!
Nice RV! It's good to see prices are coming back down to earth. During peak Covid they got spoiled with over the top pricing but those days are l-o-n-g gone. I'd say they need to drop a few more dollars on that one to make it a good deal. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks for watching!
We own a Pleasure Way since 2021 … Fantastic van and really exceptional quality/craftmanship !!!
Thanks for letting us know! Love hearing from real owners with real experiences!
Coming from anything made in 2021 says a lot for the pleasure way. Glad to hear they maintained a quality product in that time.
Great walkthrough! We have a 2023 Ontour 2.0 and LOVE it!
Yay! Awesome!
I love your enthusiasm and friendliness, so genuine.
😀 Thank you!
Always looking forward to watching you vids. You got a great wife so supportive and friendly.
Thanks John!
Pleasure-way is an amazing van!
Agree!
Great review. My storyteller is on the exact same ford chassis
I love ford pass system that gives feedback to you iPhone on engine and all the different ford items. You can see miles remaining on your gas tank
In California the Ford dealer not all will service the camper transit van you have to go to a Fleet dealership this is do the weight of van vs their lifts ability. Not all fleet dealerships will do so if you ever go with a ford make sure the dealership that can service you. Always tell the service appointment desk it is a RV
Again enjoying your reviews. I have fun watching
Oh wow. This is great info. Thanks Barbara!
I owned a Pleasureway van for 15 years built on the old E-350 chassis. When I bought it I believed the advantage of the Ford is that everyone would service it. That turned out not to be the case. The Ford dealer in Portland was happy to service it, but my hometown Ford would not. Even the commercial Ford truck dealer in my area would not service it. I ended up doing my own oil changes and having an independent garage work on it. Their service bay was not tall enough for the van, but they serviced it outside their service bay. I live in California and even the smog check cost more because it was an RV when really for smog purposes it was just a boring old Ford van.
Checks all the boxes!! And.. 5 year warranty. I think you should get this one😊
It does!
There's alot to like about the Transit. Search up the Roadtrek Pivot Slumber. It will be coming with or w/the popup in Oct.. amazing storage and maybe the best bath I've seen
Ok! Will look for it in October. Thanks.
We almost bought a RT Zion Slumber basically the Ram Version of of the Ontours. Another Great small Canadian manufacturer that takes pride in what they build instead of pumping out a poor quality subpar product that will constantly be at the dealer. Ultimately we went with the transit. The RAM chassis still lacks power and the AWD/ or dually wheels in the rwd. The Ram finally caught up a bit with their new digital dash and large screen and transmission update. They are finally listening!
Great film work and I like that you didn’t open e v e r y single cupboard. The isle seemed too narrow and I think I would prefer a happy jack bed (elevator bed).
Thank you thank you thank you for showing the height of the bathroom!
Our pleasure!
Just bought a 2021.5 with 1800 miles. It took me over a year of research and I kept coming back to the PW OT. Best quality Transit build out there from an RV manufacturer.
The 2024s will be even better. 600amph lithium and they finally went to the Truma Aventa AC. So all Truma appliances on board.
Hey, we are in Yuma camping. Had we known you were going through we could have had breakfast or lunch. Maybe we will see you in Quartzite next month. Nice trip by the way. Can’t wait to see part two. Love the festive music.
Exactly what I am looking at too. Waiting for the 2024 though. You should look at all the upgrades to the 2024! Amazing stuff.
That's the plan!
Me too but I had to build mine out
We are strongly considering purchasing the new 2024 Coachman Beyond 22C they now offer a 1260 amp hour lithium battery package which is huge.
Always a pleasure (way) to see you both in your best-dressed enthusiasm. Enjoy the search, your audience is along for the ride!
Thank you!!!!
Have y'all looked at a Coachman Beyond? We've owned ours for 4 years and love it. We opted for the Li3 .
For a long time I was all in on a coachman, but then I saw the on tour 2.2. OMG!
Nice walk through. The Ontour 2.2 has really impressed us too. The 2024 changes will make it even better with the lithium upgrades and solar.
We did see a 2024!
On our coachmen beyond on the Ford transit we took the awning off because of how it looked. All I could think of was a plumber's van plus like you said it would be useless for rain. But we just went boondocking in the badlands and an awning for the sun would have been nice. Still glad we took it off
Another great video! I looked hard at a Pleasure-Way, but they still have 90-degree angles everywhere. The cabinets above, the kitchen counter, etc. I can see a deep, dark blue bruise from each of those sharp corners when I bang into them (which is unavoidable in a van). Did you see that edge of the kitchen counter nearest to the bed???? Omg, it's a double-90-degree edge that would impale you.
All they'd have to do is router them into rounded corners. It makes me think that none of the brass at Pleasure-Way (or most other manufacturers) has ever lived in a camper van.
They actually did have their Corian counters rounded in prior years. They went to the squared off look for 21.5+
I would get one built by one of the many custom van builders out there, get exactly what you want, nothing you don't need
Good point!
We can vouch for the Ford Transit 350 HD AWD chassis....we've had ours for almost 3 years and LOVE it! We have the Coachmen Beyond RB....the Beyonds are built on the Ford Transit chassis and just a little less money then the Pleasure-Way.
Yay!
No on that AC. It is LOUD, LOUD, LOUD. Also, that wasn't an ice maker, that was the freezer! Not much space. Don't give up on your twin bed floor plan. That sofa/bed system is not that comfortable and the back of the sofa stores a bit but once the bed is down you lose a lot of space plus you smell what ever is back there. I had a similar floorplan (Grech Strada). I agree about the Ford chassis though. I hated the Mercedes and it is much more expensive to have worked on. I like the Coachmen Beyond (Ford Chassis) but the back windows don't open 😞and the Nova is on the Ram but I like it. Keep bringing the videos!
After owning a camper van with lithium batteries and discovering the freedom it gives of never having to plug in for electricity, it is now the most important feature to me. Also getting at least 600ah so the a/c lasts all night with out the engine turning on to charge.
Loving my Sanctuary built on the Transit 350 AWD chassis -- plenty of power, lots of up-to-date safety, convenience, entertainment features (and they all work well), OK gas mileage. Lower price than the Pleasureway and Thor fixed all the niggling quality issues quickly using a Mobile RV repair tech.
Hello from Arizona hope you visit us this winter ☮️💟✝️
Hi! Where in arizona?
@@Vancaskeys we’re in Peoria(N W valley), should you need a day of laundry, home cooking, unlimited hot water please ping and my husband and I would be very happy to host you.
Nice walk thru. But please, don’t confuse a higher end coach builder vs Thor, and Ford vs RAM. We have a Travato, and have had none of the Coach issues you’ve had. I very nice coach can be built on the Promaster frame.
We are taking our unfinished Transit on its first two week trip to Niagara Falls and Acadia National Park on Sept 15. Lets hope I get the sink and cabinet built before then. It is all function and primer currently. I thought of trying to make a first impression video of the van and build ideas that worked and failed. If you have words if wisdom, it would be appreciated. You guys make it look easy and I believe it due to talent and attitude.
I love your reviews!
Thanks Danni!
Pleasure way vans are top notch units and have a fantastic warranty!!
I think a rival to them is the Embassy B van. Certainly less $$$ and on the Ford cutaway too.
I’ve never seen one at a show but I believe their HQ is Dallas. Good reason for a quick road-trip!!
I was in No Cal for a cool vacation so I missed the West World show.
Great content as always!!
Thanks!
Definitely check out an Embassy! I’m picking mine up soon. Elkhart, Indiana- Factory Direct! You’d love the Dolphin S!
Same layout as my Free Spirit on a Mercedes Chassis.
Love the Ford Transit! My Beyond is on the 2020 AWD Chassis and it's been wonderful to drive, I've driven in snowy, rainy and windy conditions and it handled beautifully. It's actually our second vehicle! And like the RAM there are dealers everywhere if you need one while on the road!
Take a look at outside Van in Portland Oregon
I think you might be interested
Check out the Coachmen Beyond 22C with a very similar floor plan. Coachmen orders the Transit right, with extended mirrors, HID headlights, the overhead storage tray and extra storage on the console. While the Pleasure Way bathroom is nice, my wife and I preferred the larger fridge in the Beyond. Our first RV was a 2021 Thor Gemini and the quality difference between our Beyond and Thor is night and day. Best wishes on your next purchase.
Yes. Definitely check our coachmen beyond. We love ours. Great quality on ford transit
Nowhere near the same quality as the PW.
Beautiful van. Outstanding quality. But just not in love with the layout. Plenty of height but seems so tight. I have a sequence 20L and seems more spacious.
Kinda agree...we still think we would prefer the coachman nova layout.
Great all-around van, thanks for reviewing it! Like you, Hillary, if I had the budget, the Transit AWD is my ideal platform. $154K is not the craziest price I have seen for this platform, all the features, and the Pleasureway QC reputation. 👍🏼Looks like solar on the roof, but have to scope out the power and HVAC standard and optional features on the manufacturer website 🤔 Thanks again!
Thanks Joe!!!
Curious when I looked at the transit though the interior had a bit more head room myself at 6’3” I found the exit/slide was lower than the MB, did ya’ll notice that or maybe I was having a senior moment that day 🤣. I still say Bob is still dreaming of the STO pull the trigger 😉.
Thanks for sharing you two, always enjoy your vids, wife and I always hope to cross paths w/you two on the road…. Be safe out there keep making/ releasing the videos and lastly. We both hope your father is doing well…
The MB is a better platform for a class B, the higher side door being one of the reasons and I would love a good diesel. A little research on MB reliability makes me willing to put up with a lower side door. The 4 cylinder MB diesel is reported to be better than their notorious V-6 diesel but the Ford has stronger statistics behind it at the moment. A red flag is that MB has a warranty that is the industry bare minimum.
Coachman makes the class B model you like with twin beds and rear bath on a Ford. I like the AWD and LI3 package. It cost about the same maybe a little more than the pleasure-way. Maybe you can find one at the show. I think having the bathroom in the middle of the RV seems cramped.
No. The coachman beyond with the LI3 upgrade MSRP is over $200k. The MSRP of the OnTour is only $177,770.
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My only negative would be is that it seems cramped from the kitchen area back. There are lots of cabinets which is nice but I think that is what makes it seem a bit cramped. Also was there a table you could setup and eat from or work from?
Yes. Of course there is.
Have you checked the Embassy RV van?
Not yet
Love this.
THanks Tim!
With the exception of not having table and chairs, it's a pretty nice setup for a Class B.
For that kind of $money I would buy a Leisure Van!
The Wonder!
Cost is very similar.
We haven't seen that one yet!
:) WOW! Nice rig indeed, but as you say, a little out of budget, BUT the height inside for you is a GREAT! Being shorter and shrinking, not so much for me :) I think it's also the quality of the brand that demands more $$$$. ALL the BEST and THANKS for sharing! Cheers from the Left Coast!!! :)
Haha! Thanks!
I really like this but most vans this size have a separate fridge/freezer.
Great video review. I wish I had the budget for one of those. Could have done without the cameo appearance of Mr. Lemon however. 😊
LOL!
What I don’t understand was why they put the stovetop next to the benches where there is no protection or side to keep grease, etc from splashing and possibly staining the upholstery. This is not with Lithium batteries? Also, what do you keep in your pizza oven now & where would you store it in here? I definitely see with the pizza oven gone and it is an open space is a definite plus with both of you being tall. Pleasureway is quality+ above the Tellaro.
Where is this show room? Looks like it would be a great place to compare a LOT of different models.
Got one off the lot here in California. Knock 10k off the show price and drive it home. I got the 2023. Yes the 2024 would be nice, but the up price was not , ( at this time), a reason to get a 2024. I’m not a off grid guy.
It was nice, what’s the fresh, grey and black water capacities? We book dock a lot, so that’s a number we always look at. Did it have a generator onboard? I like Fords too! Love the channel. We will be out in your neck of the woods in early October. Hope to see you guys at Quartzsite!
Nice van, but a bit to white inside, but i am sure you will add colour to it when you get it 🙂
Just realized this channel is AZ based!!
Yes! We are! Are you from Arizona?
Few b van companies can match pleasure way’s build quality. The only one which can beat pleasureway quality is panoramic rv who is also in Canada. But they don’t have us dealership partnership. The puzzle bed layout may not be what you want. You have to chance from bed to table all the time. Panoramic rv has a always on bed and living room both. Check that out.
will do!
Ive wanted an Airstream on a Mercedes for as long as I can remember. Watching recent reviews and vloggers have issues with both, the Transit would be my next choice. Grech and Pleasure-Way would be two manufacturers id consider now.
Made in Canada quality! Only negative is I’m told the order backlog is 3 years. Order one now and yours will be scrap by the time it comes.
Oh no! We had no idea.
Anybody know what these "really" sell for when purchasing? I've also looked at the Entegra Expanse, Jayco Solstice which are also built on the same Ford chassis but don't know the quality difference between those and the Pleasure Way for an additional 30k more.
As a '23 Thor Tellaro 20J owner, I would really miss the front lounging area similar to your 20A's front "lounge" area. We swivel the front seats and hang on them and the bench and play boardgames and cards every trip. Our 20J has the identical rear lounge/bedroom convertible setup as this Pleasure-Way does, but like yourselves, we leave the bed perma-made (too much hassle to make a bed everyday damnit!). Didn't see Bob mention anything about power (batteries/panels/invertor/generator) etc but did see x3 panels up top? Really appreciate seeing a Ford interior vs the RAM, but couldn't bring myself to buy a Van with a model name that sounds like a "made for her sex-toy" :P
You can have the eco bomb engines at your own peril.
Once again nice job. Thank you guys, always look forward to your videos. Bob don't tell Hillary but buy the duelly and a jeep to pull. Sell mister lemon and her car. I know she will be pissed but. Go for a drive in the jeep with the top down play some groovy music and wallah your back in the saddle. Glad I could help.
I think it's very expensive for what it is... you didn't mention anything about it's solar power or heating capabilities, that icemaker is tiny, can't fit anything really to keep frozen... not sure, I wouldn't put this one on my list of contenders...
Love your eyes ❤
Thanks! 😊
Check the advantages of the Embassy Dolphin now…
We need to find one!
If u like to pleasureway 2.0 we r selling our pleasure Ascent 2018( almost the same layout but on a Mercedes chassie and a much better price😂.
Haha! Not in the market just yet.
where’s the table for eating?
It's a Lagun table that fits on the passenger side just past the galley toward the back
What happened to the K in your name? Or is it just a misspelled name?
I wouldn't exactly classify this as a "dream van" by any means. My top pick for a Class B van would be the Unity Twin Bed offered by Leisure Travel Vans of Canada.
I agree with the fact that the Ford Transit Chassis is a great combo with a camper van. We have a Coachman 2023 Beyond 22C on the Ford Transit Chassis that will probably be for sale soon. So, if you find one to go through and take a look, let me know. It has only been on two little trips. Happy hunting and I hope you find what you are looking for soon...let me know if you want to chat about our unit. Peace...
It's a good van. Maybe you could sell yours and get one.
We wish...not in the budget just yet.
Yea, I realize it's probably not in the cards. Why don't you make videos of you guys fixing up your van instead? It's like your teasing yourself to get a new van, knowing you can't get a new one. You could probably do a much better job.
@@VanlilfewithDaleandBailey Honestly...we have thought about doing just that. But we do love going to shows and seeing what's out there. It's fun to us lol
I was a big fan of the Transit 5-6 yrs ago, but I know too many people who've had quality issues in the past few years & the Transit now feels tired & dated to me. The extra 6" width in the Promaster is a big plus for me, too. If I loved everything else about a coach on a Transit, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'd proceed with caution.
Beautiful van, but the rear dually is a no for me.
Please let us know why :)
Dual rear wheels provide extra stability and give the advantage of extra weight capacity. Aside from the expense of buying two extra tires, I don't see your point. What price do you put on your personal safety? I love having dual rear wheels. Just make sure you have a tire pressure monitoring system.
@@Vancaskeys just two more tires to worry about, you can’t just glance down and see if they are fully inflated (and I know they make tire monitoring) but again another gadget to trust and depend on. Plus when it comes time to replace …4 is cheaper than 6.
These Transits have a built in TPMS so no need for the extra gadget.
@@lynnknight2046 - Of course 4 is less expensive than 6 tires.... that's obvious.
Lynn, my point is focused on safety, not the cost. Actually, it's all very expensive. And, even though I love the benefits of driving a diesel, excellent fuel economy, and, the possibility of the engine living longer than me ( LOL). The diesel engines have been known to go 300,000 to 500,000 miles. That's not to say that other stuff besides the base engine won't fall, but, the motor is very robust. I don't think I have the time or energy to drive 500,000 miles... that is a very long distance....
Maintaining a diesel is more expensive as well....
So, you make choices....I wouldn't trade my 6 tires for 4..... that was a prerequisite for buying my RV.....If you think about it, the vehicle is almost 10 feet tall.... losing a tire is very dangerous. I have my tires replaced every 60 months regardless of mileage. That's very expensive too. That was $2,000.....
For the Ford Transit, it's the 350 HD, not 3500.
Correct. I misspoke. Thanks 😊
@@Vancaskeys You're welcome!
Were all the poop go
Everybody please stop overpaying. These things can be had for at least 25% off msrp. US made vans from say Winnebago or Thor are going for 35% or greater discounts. Shop around and be willing to walk-and do walk.
“We could get used to it!” :::realizes she doesn’t cook::: “right Bob?!?!” 😅😅
Hahahahahaha -right!
The only downside is that you don’t actually have awesome towing capacity…it is extremely limited.
Do a custom build. You get what you want. Cheaper than these vans you guys keep looking at. Never mount your batteries under your van if you want to do winter camping.
Minimum towing capacity like 1000 pounds
The spec says a maximum of 1600 pounds but once you load up, I bet it drops to about 1000 pounds. Don't like that Pleasure-Way only lists the 25 gallon fuel tank and not the available upgraded 31 gallon tank.
@@garychristison763. I asked that as well. PW. Needed the room for one of the tanks and generator.
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?How do you know “it’s solid ” until you live in it? I’m guessing you thought your current van was solid until you lived in it.
We for sure would rent one before buying this time. And get an inspection done. We’ve learned the hard way.
Im sure they meant “ its solid “ as in their experience / opinion…
Cheap quality cabinets. And not as tall as the Maxx promaster.
Actually they’re some of the best cabinets, drawers and hinges plus build quality in the RV industry. I’d take a Pleasure-Way over any of the Indiana RV manufacturers any day of the week.
gigantic bathroom???????
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This would not work for me for several reasons but I will start by saying that I do like and prefer the Ford chasis. However, I am not into playing Tetris every morning and night to go to bed. Give me a fixed bed. I like the comfortable bathroom but it is literally against the driver’s seat and you can’t recline. I would also need a full fridge, especially a bigger freezer. And lastly, the price tag, I could not justify paying that much for a class B when I can get a B+ or C and even a class A for the same and even less. Ok I get off my soap box now.
Unbearable.
I like Pleasure Way quality, but they need to stop putting all the ugly cutouts and huge branding on the van body. It ruins the clean look of the van and makes it impossible to stealth camp since it stands out like a sore thumb. They also need to offer an all electric package that eliminates the propane system and Onan generator, and uses the chassis fuel for heat and hot water. A lot of buyers simply don't want the added weight and safety concerns of propane. This would be easily doable since they now offer a 600 amp lithium battery, 3000 watt inverter, 300 watt solar, and they can add a 2nd alternator for fast charging while driving. I also don't like any of the interior color choices. I prefer a darker look and it's a mistake not offering a darker interior option. Also, the chassis needs the upgraded LED lighting. Halogen headlights on an expensive coach like this is inexcusable. These simple changes would make the Ontour one of the best B vans on the market, but as it is currently I would pass.
Bob, its not a big bed. You dont fit
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Ford is the best of them all. Ram Promaster is poorly made. The sprinter service is the worst. If I had to do it again I would get a ford. Never again will I purchase a Mercedes Benz. Not because of the quality but the service is the worst. I can not tell you enough about the problems we have had because of mercedes service. One working Key and they will not make another. Go figure.