This could RUIN World of Tanks!!!

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  • World of Tanks is testing new weather effects in Recon and the result, for me, ruins the core enjoyment of the game - here's why.
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  • @Kevin_DM
    @Kevin_DM 3 месяца назад +493

    With storms in wows your vision and concealment gradually decreases as you get to the edge, that would really solve this

    • @Jan_Vogelsang
      @Jan_Vogelsang 3 месяца назад +22

      Totally agree. This would be all it needs to make this feature awesome.

    • @KingRat71
      @KingRat71 3 месяца назад +10

      YES it works fine in WOW so just use the same logic here.

    • @Tohtal1
      @Tohtal1 3 месяца назад +27

      the storms in WoWS are great, they move over the map and arent permanent, you can avoid them or use them for your benefit. you also can shoot inside from the outside if you are still in viewrange etc.

    • @edwardrusk
      @edwardrusk 3 месяца назад +14

      WowS does so many things better, IMO. At the very least, WoT should implement Co-op mode for those occasions where you just want a quick bit of fun and blow stuff up.

    • @urban__nomad_1
      @urban__nomad_1 3 месяца назад +4

      At least, keep the Arty to see and be able to hit the tanks inside these zones. In usual game as well, whereas all tanks have a limited range of view, Arty can see and hit tanks that have been spotted.

  • @venturiqq
    @venturiqq 3 месяца назад +31

    I honestly think most maps need to be completely reworked. Half of them are just a 3 way corridor where you sit in a hull down position and get punished if you push a flank. I've been in positions where either team is just stuck looking at each other for minutes. Sniper TDs, light tanks and even sniper mediums are left to die because there is no place for them to go. There is no room to flank on most maps. Generally because of the map design, but also because of how fast games have become.

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 3 месяца назад

      What? those redline camper f*cks that shoot from the back. Especially those meds that wouldn't even take the role of scout if the lights are gone. The biggest f*cking wankers the lot of them.
      Nah, they can have this crap.. serves them well.

    • @HoneydownBrightworks
      @HoneydownBrightworks Месяц назад

      agree with everything you say, but they need some new maps as well.

  • @gebhard128
    @gebhard128 3 месяца назад +643

    This mechanic produces the most braindead gameplay, just play heavy, rush in the zone, whoever got more tanks in the zone wins. No spotting, no crossfire, just nonsense

    • @antiaggro8929
      @antiaggro8929 3 месяца назад +9

      It would be the last nail in the coffin for any tanks apart from rush tanks. You basically rush to the zone kill all enemy vehicle in it without getting fired at by td or arty and after that you just steamrole the tds that cant do anything because there is no position on most cards that allow to defend against a rush from those zones.

    • @Mut4ntG4m3r
      @Mut4ntG4m3r 3 месяца назад +1

      thats not at all how it played ot in most of my battles though.

    • @gofast8878
      @gofast8878 3 месяца назад +3

      this is a really bad mechanic.
      if the effect was 90% less strong it would be o.k.
      it will destroy the game

    • @meinacco
      @meinacco 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Mut4ntG4m3r Just wait until people figure out the meta

    • @numerpk212
      @numerpk212 3 месяца назад +18

      The current gameplay is one of 2 things. 1: Camp at your side of the map, whoever peaks corner or ridge first get shot from 10 different sides and lose. 2: Everyone goes hill, whoever has more tanks with no turret weakpoint wins. Not braindead at all. At least this weather effects allows actuall fights and push. But sure the placemet, size and acutall power of the weather effects could be adjusted.

  • @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow
    @EscapeTheMatrixRightNow 3 месяца назад +99

    It's preposterous that, ouside the storm, you can't see others within it, yet you can easily see a spotted tank on the opposite side of the weather circle. 🤯🤯🤯

    • @tbarry4990
      @tbarry4990 3 месяца назад +3

      Have no fear .... War Gaming is here. No one can f*** up a game as quickly as WG - they are excelling at it!!

    • @yeetingat100subs9
      @yeetingat100subs9 2 месяца назад

      yea it makes no logical or realistic sense

  • @NelsonPimenta93
    @NelsonPimenta93 3 месяца назад +362

    "This could RUIN World of Tanks". Could be 1 of 100 things that WG have been implementing these past few years.

    • @Skott62
      @Skott62 3 месяца назад +11

      Yeah more like the latest thing to ruin the game.

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 месяца назад +4

      I almost hoped it was a joke about the US elections

    • @neilwilliams4684
      @neilwilliams4684 3 месяца назад +1

      I would say there was none bigger than this (that I can think of). Nothing that would effect my gameplay in such a drastic and negative way!

    • @andiadmiralfs4321
      @andiadmiralfs4321 3 месяца назад

      yep one of another stupid movement from nerf wargaming trying to be implemented after HE nerf, crew 2.0 and equipment etc.

    • @casuscnactus4864
      @casuscnactus4864 3 месяца назад

      No, because this is against the core gameplay which WoT has been about forever.

  • @Doom1981
    @Doom1981 3 месяца назад +82

    So players that are outside of the fog, can see vehicles on the other side of it, as long as they are in render distance, despite there being something in your line of sight that blocks vision, but you can’t see what’s inside that thing, despite your view has to cross less fog, or dust or whatever. This is stupid

    • @Drogoran
      @Drogoran 3 месяца назад +2

      eh no more stupid than the vision system in general

    • @kekk3809
      @kekk3809 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Drogoran true, you should see everything. Just depend on your eyes

    • @andiadmiralfs4321
      @andiadmiralfs4321 3 месяца назад

      yeah i mean why they didn't do this on temporary time. and affecting all area map and not in small zones like that. this event just creating a only a small area like "no tanks zone" which only meta op armor tanks or swarming team easily dominating the area.

    • @multicrogamer
      @multicrogamer 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kekk3809 Play war Thunder then

    • @tbarry4990
      @tbarry4990 3 месяца назад

      It's another brain child of War Gaming. By firing more shots, wasted in the storm, it's another way for WG to nickel and dime more money out of the players. If there is a way to f*** up the game more ..... don't worry WG will find it.

  • @cnikkor
    @cnikkor 3 месяца назад +221

    I must admit, I like that WG is actually thinking and testing out new mechanics. The idea of foggy areas, smoke and dust clouds seems all right and fitting for the game, just how it is implemented is game breaking, there is no strategic value to it right now. It's not fun to play or play against, it's just a map inside the map, which makes no sense for the gameplay.
    - reducing the view range inside sounds alright
    - also increasing the camo inside sounds good, so it's a big fat bush in some way
    - making them timed sounds like the best, turn them off after a while, or start them from random events or after a certain time to change the gameplay, maybe even multiple times per battle even at pseudo random times

    • @xvphoenixvii5146
      @xvphoenixvii5146 3 месяца назад +8

      i think they should be able to move around, like in World of Warships with the rain storm moving in onto the map and you can go into them, it should sorta be like that that, i do think an idea is somthing from world of tanks console where every tank is still spotted, but they are not highlighted, if you know war thunder then you know what i mean

    • @freshwaterspaceman7194
      @freshwaterspaceman7194 3 месяца назад +7

      WG wil do ANYTHING but introduce new maps.

    • @cnikkor
      @cnikkor 3 месяца назад +3

      @freshwaterspaceman7194 I'm sure more maps isn't a solution, I mean look at hunt showdown, it has like 3 maps and it's great

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 месяца назад +2

      If only they played their own game so they would also know what would be good mechanics... that's what you should focus on

    • @marram101
      @marram101 3 месяца назад

      More areas of the map, moving around or timed from start to finish.

  • @DvdV1337
    @DvdV1337 3 месяца назад +107

    This comes from world of warships.
    Sometimes storms pass by.
    But this game is too small for that.
    If we grab 10 battleships en tie them together, we have your tiny tanks map.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer 3 месяца назад +12

      Yes but with the storms they seem a LOT more dynamic than the ones in WoT because they sweep across the map and your concealment decreases the further from the center you are. Then there's Typhoons which limit visability to knife fighting range for 8 minutes but does so for everyone on the field. These 'storms' are static and just sit there the whole round instead of moving across the battlefield.

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 3 месяца назад +2

      Haha, yeah this one made me chuckle.
      Also: DO NOT scratch the paint on me Yamato!

    • @hybridwolf66
      @hybridwolf66 3 месяца назад

      WOWS is trash now. Lost most of it's CCs and the plater base is plummeting. I quit many months ago and have not looked back. WOT is on it's way to the end now.

    • @Cheese9220
      @Cheese9220 2 месяца назад

      I think it's closer to the deployable smoke the Cold War gamemode on WoT console has as a consumable

    • @loonowolf2160
      @loonowolf2160 2 месяца назад

      Ask wg to make maps 5km x 5km or 8km x 8km 10km x 10km or 15km x 15km, just like on ww2 Tiger 1 eould hunt down from 3km

  • @Just_another_golf
    @Just_another_golf 3 месяца назад +27

    They should have spent their time on making new map or two, instead of this bs...

    • @SaintNyx
      @SaintNyx 3 месяца назад +2

      Except every map they do is worse than the last.

    • @tbarry4990
      @tbarry4990 3 месяца назад

      If it makes sense...... WG can't do it. If it'll fleece more money from players .... then it'll go to the top of the list. WG couldn't organize a fire drill in a phone booth.

  • @Try_Again_Bragg
    @Try_Again_Bragg 3 месяца назад +163

    It's an interesting idea but atm it's terrible just terrible.
    It wasn't on any test server.

    • @balazskun5167
      @balazskun5167 3 месяца назад +7

      It was. Just noone cared to test it.

    • @mikekosmos
      @mikekosmos 3 месяца назад

      ​@@balazskun5167 true, no one played it - everyone was interested only in Tesak line

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@balazskun5167 when was it tested? Also hilarious how WG truly doesn't care about the test server

    • @Zergling.
      @Zergling. 3 месяца назад

      In that first map the way the bottom storm is made is so much better for the team on the left, they have so much space, even arty can go there.

    • @mikekosmos
      @mikekosmos 3 месяца назад

      @@derrickstorm6976 it was on the recent test server with Tesak line. But no one was playing it, I tried to check it out...

  • @daveyjones4451
    @daveyjones4451 3 месяца назад +25

    They are trying to find cheap ways of slowing down games instead of growing a pair and doing what is really needed which is looking at the matchmaker, fixing or even bring newer better maps out and balance premium tanks in the game.

    • @jo-fe9mb
      @jo-fe9mb 3 месяца назад +2

      matchmaking needs a rework

    • @ercooky1719
      @ercooky1719 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jo-fe9mbyeah, the +-2 system is obselete. They just need to put a +-1 so u get only tier 7 and 9 as a tier 8 but the tier 7 cannot go against tier 9. This will be better than most things they done during years

  • @pinecone_enthust3703
    @pinecone_enthust3703 3 месяца назад +43

    Wargaming needs to put their effort into balancing maps without adding all these random effects. 90% of maps now are either 3-4 corridors, or 90% all open with no cover. Making any plays outside of hulldown plays are heavily punished and it makes every map stale. They need to find a middle ground, and bring back the older maps that have just been thrown to the wind and wasted.

    • @tbarry4990
      @tbarry4990 3 месяца назад

      They did have some really great spots on maps ....... so that had to change. Another thing WG had to f*** up. If it ain't broke ..... don't worry ...WG will "fix it".

  • @geoffroy588
    @geoffroy588 3 месяца назад +8

    WG has always searched new ways to destroy the game.

  • @ThomasTubeHD
    @ThomasTubeHD 3 месяца назад +10

    At this point, anything new and sometimes radical updates to World of tanks are needed to get the game moving, the weather zones (in my opinion) could be added to the game but with a few things that needs to be fixed:
    first is that if an enemy is on the border of the weather zone and you are within 50 meters of them, the 50 meter spotting applies and everyone spots each other whether they are in different zones or not,
    second is that the zones should not be static, like the zones should shift or drift across the map so that it doesn’t always appear on crucial areas,
    Third, as QuickyBaby said, they should appear randomly or when there is stalemate happening like the random events

  • @TheTaker88
    @TheTaker88 3 месяца назад +5

    These clowns can't even balance the maps on normal. How should they manage it with weather effects?

  • @freshwaterspaceman7194
    @freshwaterspaceman7194 3 месяца назад +14

    Endless shit fiddling, crashing Zeppelins to dust storms. Just make new maps WG.

  • @mechichowski
    @mechichowski 3 месяца назад +55

    Absolutely Top 3 of the best WG ideas with worst realisations.

    • @kamikatz6407
      @kamikatz6407 3 месяца назад +5

      Absolutely agree. I'd love to have weather but this implementation is so poor.

    • @mechichowski
      @mechichowski 3 месяца назад +1

      @kamikatz6407 probably second place, right after WOWP 2.0 update.

  • @vm360fly
    @vm360fly 3 месяца назад +3

    2035: the game has evolved into 15v15 tier 10 prenium Objects with 4 guns and wheels that soak up 150mm heat shells.
    The IS-7 goes 150 km/h up hill and has been buffed to have 450 mm of effective spaced armor all around.
    30 players with bond equipment are left on eache servers, they play an average of 120 hours per week. Each game is over before you load up.

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- 2 месяца назад

      It feels like the IS-7 already goes that fast.

  • @hyfy-tr2jy
    @hyfy-tr2jy 3 месяца назад +21

    These "fog" areas should simply improve your camo rating by some percentage and reduce your view range by some similar percentage. Not this in/out, see/not see based on where you are. You cant even proxy spot someone inside the fog while you are outside and be only feet apart

    • @ShagWagon
      @ShagWagon 2 месяца назад

      Laughs in elc even 90

  • @have__a__cookie4143
    @have__a__cookie4143 3 месяца назад +4

    This mode is bullshit. WOT just want faster games = more money. They removed so many bushes You cant even play TD any more. And nerf of artillery. They dont care about playing the game in your class and the role. WOT just want fast games, and they dont care about long strategic games where the fun is. Like in old days. WOT destroy the game those fast games. Sick trend and the joy goes little by little.

  • @Abracalyn
    @Abracalyn 3 месяца назад +94

    Just punishes Light Tanks, Sniper TDs, and Arty for no real reason. WG already continually nerfs sniper lines of fire and yet they make these big static zones around the most important parts of the map. Westfield is absolutely the worst offender.

    • @Jan_Vogelsang
      @Jan_Vogelsang 3 месяца назад +8

      Yes it does and this sounds great to me. Punishing boring clickers (arty and sniper TDs) is awesome. Removing them from the game would be better of course, but we all know this is not gonna happen. Nerfing light tanks isn't great though, maybe light tanks should be able to see through the sand storms.

    • @Abracalyn
      @Abracalyn 3 месяца назад +32

      @@Jan_Vogelsang Sorry, but tank diversity is what makes the game interesting. Nobody likes getting hit across the map but it's a part of the game and history of tank design. You can't just remove entire classes of tank from playing the game just because they're a little bit annoying. If they wanted to make these classes unplayable, should they not just change the map designs entirely? Too many heavy tank players are happy with this change without being able to see how it feels for the other side.

    • @Pirocharm
      @Pirocharm 3 месяца назад +3

      Remove arty from the game would be their best decision ever:))) anyway dead game

    • @noheutenicht2850
      @noheutenicht2850 3 месяца назад +20

      Heavy players are simply the biggest cry babies.

    • @bigtimemegaproductions
      @bigtimemegaproductions 3 месяца назад

      @@Abracalyn You don't need to be hyper realistic. War is hell. thats not enjoyable. Nobody wants arty and the only reason why arty mains play it is a) theyre fat and lazy b) they are paralegics and can only use one hand

  • @nkzeta2315
    @nkzeta2315 3 месяца назад +1

    It's really concerning as well when the zones have been placed where lights initially go to spot. So not only are you making lights even worse than they are but also letting heavies play in light positions. Unless they straight up made lights ignore the fog mechanics, this is another massive nerf for lights we do not need. A shame because I also find the concept interesting.

  • @peteleopard9963
    @peteleopard9963 3 месяца назад +23

    This is just a HUGE step in the same direction WG has been going for some time. Eliminating Arty and TD players from battles.

    • @theb190experience9
      @theb190experience9 3 месяца назад +8

      Eliminating tds? Ffs, they make up 2/3 of most battles now.

    • @leeblake3989
      @leeblake3989 3 месяца назад +2

      @@theb190experience9 They have changed the maps to decrease TD's usefulness and nerfed arty's HE rounds. WOT wants ADHD, run around the map in light tank battles.

    • @catrionacolville2192
      @catrionacolville2192 3 месяца назад

      ​@@theb190experience9 Not if they bring this in. The only tank destroyers left will be assault with strong frontal armour.

    • @metaphysicalretardation
      @metaphysicalretardation 3 месяца назад

      ​@@leeblake3989 I hope you know that if you like slow paced/sniping/tactical gameplay you always have War Thunder on the table (and it's free)
      If wargaming wants to keep the game alive then they have to distance themselves from WT, otherwise they will lose most of the playerbase to them

    • @theb190experience9
      @theb190experience9 3 месяца назад +4

      @@leeblake3989 To be fair, I think the overpowered TDs added are damaging to the game, and having played with high powered arty I certainly don’t miss it. I want tactical play, not sit in one spot and wait for someone to drive in front of my gun.

  • @fredrikhultman557
    @fredrikhultman557 3 месяца назад +2

    This game mode also destroys light tanks. Just had a game on Fjords with 3 lights per side. Our side had a total assistance of 569, the enemy team's lights had total of 0!
    Light tanks are already playing World of tanks on hardmode, this just breaks them.

  • @glep3570
    @glep3570 3 месяца назад +44

    This is the natural progression of WG desire to remove strategy and focus on spamming gold at close range.

    • @ElijahTrahan-l9s
      @ElijahTrahan-l9s 3 месяца назад +1

      no such thing as spamming gold you can either choose to buy cheap shells with low pen and complain about rng or just buy the more expensive credit rounds and do better

    • @staticman1263
      @staticman1263 3 месяца назад +5

      @@ElijahTrahan-l9s tell us you have to buy your skill just as WG want with out actually telling us.

    • @glep3570
      @glep3570 3 месяца назад +4

      @ElijahTrahan-l9s We are well aware that WG has moved away from skill to buying ez mode through gold and premium tanks. Every change in the game reinforces that. There was a time when armor in this tank game mattered. Now, players just pay to negate armor. It is sad.

    • @SaintNyx
      @SaintNyx 3 месяца назад

      What? All anyone does on the current maps is spam gold at each others' turrets from 150m because it's impossible to push. Good luck flanking a heavy tank when there are 8 TD players licking windows across the entire red line.

    • @staticman1263
      @staticman1263 3 месяца назад

      @@SaintNyx Thats 100% what WG want and 100% why the game sucks for casual players. its pay to win all the way

  • @lpanades
    @lpanades 3 месяца назад +2

    How they can test a so shity idea: natural, play Grille 15 and you will notice they are full of shity ideas. Now you notice that good armor hull down monster are far better than snipers in this game? Man is not the fog of dust, it is the game itself: the weather just make it more clear, more noticeable.

  • @heltutrolig7645
    @heltutrolig7645 3 месяца назад +4

    Another way of transforming this into «World of heavy tanks».

  • @fredrikhultman557
    @fredrikhultman557 3 месяца назад +11

    I have done about 20 games so far in this game mode and it's already a struggle.
    Battles inside the weather zones are chaotic and fast.
    What the players who stay outside do is largely irrelevant.
    The idea is fine, the implementation is terrible.

  • @Tilly042Tilford-zo7zt
    @Tilly042Tilford-zo7zt 3 месяца назад +4

    It's yet more shit WG have decided to introduce that no one asked for and few want whilst ignoring what the player base would like to see. Even a new map of bringing back an old map would be nice!

  • @animalyze7120
    @animalyze7120 3 месяца назад +2

    This is stoopid AF! Thank you WG, finally get an Xmas season without wasting money on boxes. Good luck with adding more broken Gold crap and obnoxious gameplay, the shills will love it.

  • @agostontoth8782
    @agostontoth8782 3 месяца назад +18

    I am..was mainly a td player, when i started this game, but I skipped most of this year in Wot. It'm just tired , to try to shoot the 3 penetrable pixel in the front of the op heavies all the time, while slowly all the maps are converted to take out spot and snipe positions. It's just not fun. Playing with and control the vision is so important in the game, to have those rare epic comebacks or heroic last stands is impossible when the whole battle is decided in a 50 meter area in 2 minutes.

    • @MrJimStopher
      @MrJimStopher 3 месяца назад +5

      Yep, WG hates us sniper TDs. All about rapid assault tanks now.

  • @Mike-mi7vn
    @Mike-mi7vn 3 месяца назад +2

    War gaming isn’t stupid, they know what they’re doing. They’ve been pushing these 5 minute games for last 7 years. At least they’re trying to get an opinion from us here.

  • @cierangray9528
    @cierangray9528 3 месяца назад +25

    I agree 100% with QB, I think that speeding the game up is the last thing this game needs!
    There’s nothing better than getting in them longer match’s and are so close to either side winning that make this game what it is.
    I honestly hope that these features stay well away.

  • @Slye_Fox
    @Slye_Fox 3 месяца назад +2

    Cool concept, bad implementation.
    My idea for a change of the mechanic:
    Get rid of the "wall", no mini-arenas.
    Make it so concealment/vision is effected depending on the distance of the weather between you and each target. Random numbers example; there's 100m of fog between you and an enemy, your ability to see them is reduced by 50%. There's only 50m of fog, it's now 25%.

  • @petergaardsted5590
    @petergaardsted5590 3 месяца назад +16

    I totally agree QB.This snowballs the games even more. I afsked WG why they keep making this game faster and faster and only got useless BS back. It is stupid and NOT FUN AT ALL. Drop it ! or at least make so we can turn it off in the settings !

    • @wdinns
      @wdinns 3 месяца назад +2

      faster money in their pockets, by making the games end sooner, to spend money on gold

    • @jakobgrimminger
      @jakobgrimminger 3 месяца назад

      @@wdinns Exactly. Just another cash grab to add to the long list over the years

  • @excelsian512
    @excelsian512 3 месяца назад +2

    To be honest, I think this is an interesting concept, just not well executed. These areas essentially should create ambush opportunities, but instead they change fundamental game mechanics that are not meant to be changed. It's a great idea to have a sandstorm that reduces visibility from outside; looking in and from the inside;looking outward. It just shouldn't be bound to set zones.
    Proxy spotting for example is now being ignored by deciding to retreat within the confines of a sandstorm, that's not how it should work. It should be a gradual transition specifically finetuning viewranges and camo values.
    Alternatively this shouldn't be a map-change, but an entirely new fundamental that new maps are built around, because the current maps will be ruined in the way they play, if this stays as is.

  • @ChrisCarpin7
    @ChrisCarpin7 3 месяца назад +13

    played a handful of games in this mode and it was an instant "nope never playing this mode again, still to broken"

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 3 месяца назад +1

      If you dont play, you cant give them bad feedback.
      When only people who like it do it, it will be implemented.

  • @trdrenth
    @trdrenth 3 месяца назад +1

    The survey gatekeeping is mindblowingly awful and dumb, even worse than the sad modes tested. Do they even want player feedback?

  • @Loudnose
    @Loudnose 3 месяца назад +20

    Local Weather should've just been done the same, but without the extra effects and twists to the mechanics.
    Kind of the same with night maps. No need to twist and overcomplicate mechanics...
    Also, why is Recon Mission affecting overall stats?
    I remember playing, and my MoE went up/down while just playing this mod. Even got that 3rd Tank Ace medal for one of my tanks.
    I mean alright, but I don't remember Recon Mission affecting General stats...

    • @Mut4ntG4m3r
      @Mut4ntG4m3r 3 месяца назад +1

      since this time its basically random matches, and they dont want you to test mechanics but rather how players react to them, its with stats.

    • @Cent51
      @Cent51 3 месяца назад

      They have opened it that all the states and BP work in recon, guess they also need to see if these events will also work with marking and things like that -

    • @meinacco
      @meinacco 3 месяца назад +3

      Probably because otherwise some players wouldnt want to "waste their time" playing a mode where they cant earn MoE or medals.

    • @Gabriel-hm7vv
      @Gabriel-hm7vv 3 месяца назад +1

      @@meinacco It's not that. It's so there's actual risk for people who'd be otherwise just throwing or trolling.

  • @billywindsock9597
    @billywindsock9597 3 месяца назад +2

    I quit about June. Since EU 3 and 4 joined, games became 15-5 or 5-15 for seven or eight times out of ten. Not fun either way. Goodbye WG.

  • @stewartlogan4374
    @stewartlogan4374 3 месяца назад +3

    If this goes into the game I will leave WOT after 12 years playing, I am 58 years old and its the only online game I play. I will play old games like company of hereos that are not online...Will it become a game of 2,3 min, or even less ,and less skill ,mmmm

  • @w1LYAm
    @w1LYAm 3 месяца назад +1

    For those who want to play fast they can play wot blitz, idk why wargaming are making the game faster and faster

  • @barryevans6493
    @barryevans6493 3 месяца назад +4

    Just another instance of WGs love of heavies, this mode pretty much negates 2 classes of tanks, gl playing low armour tds or arty

  • @johnhymanful
    @johnhymanful 3 месяца назад +1

    I tried the RECON mode and have mixed feelings. Yes, it will render certain tank classes less relevant and it does present some frustration while playing. I wish WG would add the visual elements of rain, fog, or sandstorms but reduce the impact on vision (yes, I know it's less realistic but WG doesn't always stand for historical or play accuracy?) The proposed mode is great experienced players who love to brawl, a POV that WG seems to be moving towards with the recent map changes, but hinders sniping and spotting. MY QUESTION TO WG: is this such an important change when the community for years has asked for dynamic matchmaking? I guess it's a matter of priorities.

  • @Todsor
    @Todsor 3 месяца назад +12

    Rain should reduce terrain resistance for the entire map. Sandstorm should be moving around while blocking view. Fog and fire are unnecessary.

    • @davidwaxter66
      @davidwaxter66 3 месяца назад +7

      Wouldn’t say unnecessary. Fog is just the same as sandstorms but for non desert maps and fire should slowly burn away cover on the map

    • @Todsor
      @Todsor 3 месяца назад +1

      @@davidwaxter66 good point. i think there is much potential in this feature if WG takes it bit more seriously

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 месяца назад

      What makes fog and fire unnecessary? They're just as normal and natural weather as rain and sandstorms.
      Not to mention the ideas; being inside a smoke cloud could slowly decrease crew efficiency (co2 poisoning), being in smoke could fog up your vision systems, etc.
      Edit: I feel like these implementations would deserve/need their own new maps, old maps weren't just made with new additions in mind

  • @bushmasterflash
    @bushmasterflash 3 месяца назад +1

    So TDs with bad mobility and no armour, that rely on view range, and cammo are well and truly useless.
    Yet another heavy tank boost.

  • @Reinhardthartman5789
    @Reinhardthartman5789 3 месяца назад +3

    As if WG hadn't already ruined WOT, I salute you for trying to make content for this game, I've lost interest after jungles himself left the game as well

  • @Squad23jta
    @Squad23jta 3 месяца назад +1

    Quicky for an average player like me that hovers around the 50-51% score the majority of my games are snowball massacres. If I play 30 games on average 20 are sub-5-minute games where one team obliterates the opposition. This new mechanic means I will be back in the garage quicker and will probably save me on gold since it won't bounce as much as in a normal game. 😀

  • @mrbill8763
    @mrbill8763 3 месяца назад +16

    Gold rounds and nerfing artillery and nerfing high explosive ammo. This game just isn’t fun anymore and it’s completely pay to win.

    • @cherno8336
      @cherno8336 3 месяца назад

      buffing Arty is supposed to be fun?

    • @mrbill8763
      @mrbill8763 3 месяца назад +1

      @ what tank do you like to play? Buffing _______ is supposed to be fun? What an ignorant comment.

    • @jakobgrimminger
      @jakobgrimminger 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

  • @stevenkoshnick9421
    @stevenkoshnick9421 3 месяца назад +1

    They keep making things worse for TDs . Scouts and ARTY are useless in this mode. It is all heavies and meds. Kind of like a quick game of tennis, Just go hull down, shoot and be done in 5 minutes. You "get" to play 50 games to tell them this is garbage.

  • @MrJohnyysmith
    @MrJohnyysmith 3 месяца назад +11

    WG always on the lookout for ways to screw up the light tank game

    • @solyomandras
      @solyomandras 3 месяца назад +4

      LT game is already quite irrelevant on those stupid corridor maps, you have to be a really good player, and/or pretty lucky if you want to enjoy your LTs.

  • @ariztv5713
    @ariztv5713 3 месяца назад +1

    in respect of the graphics developer dont remove it, just make it an effect, but not arena.

  • @alluraambrose2978
    @alluraambrose2978 3 месяца назад +4

    Once in every 100 games, would be fun.

  • @jesse4781
    @jesse4781 3 месяца назад

    I like this idea very much, it will make people actually get into the fight instead of sitting back in useless positions, maybe this will make the game more fun.

  • @TIJUANABC_664
    @TIJUANABC_664 3 месяца назад +3

    I like the idea of having CHOICES, so Yes, im up for this change, will it be an optional battle mode? IDK but sure hope so for every one elses preferences

  • @numerpk212
    @numerpk212 3 месяца назад +2

    I still think that would be a great mechanic that allows tanks to actually fight for once, but the placemet, size and way it works needs some tweaking. Especially with tanks dissapearing right in front of you etc.

  • @OXOfan
    @OXOfan 3 месяца назад +7

    As someone who enjoys sniping with TDs, this is a game killer for me. If this goes mainstream, I'll either have to drastically change how I enjoy the game or give up and find another game for my past time. :(

    • @jakobgrimminger
      @jakobgrimminger 3 месяца назад

      Same here

    • @matyasselmek3673
      @matyasselmek3673 3 месяца назад

      @@jakobgrimminger or they could just rebalancee all the shitty paper TDs so you can be agresive in them, right now most paper tank destroyers suck ass appart from select few that actually can play agresivelly (shptk is great agresive TD), it has to do with gun handling, accuracy and shitty pen and also lack of weakspots on most heavy armored vehicles, try to play agresively with skorpion G, well you cant cause gun aint hitting shit on the move and your bloom is enormous and it doesnt help the fact that TDs cant mount vstabs, which kills this class. My solution would be make the camo worse so it incetivizes players to move more, buff the dispersion values on move/traverse/gun traverse tremendously while also decreasing the aim time and buffing penetration on some rounds (grille 15 is great example from 334 to 370 at least) this change along with some HP buff for paper TDs could enable TDs to play far more agresively

    • @Wylfvr
      @Wylfvr 3 месяца назад

      Join the warthunder suffering lol

    • @OXOfan
      @OXOfan 3 месяца назад

      @@Wylfvr *gasp*

    • @SaintNyx
      @SaintNyx 3 месяца назад

      Oh no, one less TD player who plays from their base with one hand and makes 85% of the map unpushable so he can get one shot of damage every game and pad his 47% win rate.

  • @rofl51185118
    @rofl51185118 3 месяца назад +1

    + - 2 Tier Matchmaking ruin World of Tanks, BZ-176, Skoda T-56 vs Tier VI ruins WoT, 350mm Heat PEN on a reward tank who can fire trough the Tier X Turrets ruin WoT..... ill dont see the point?

  • @hynol
    @hynol 3 месяца назад +7

    Yep. I think it is the worst change in WoT ever. I played about 20 games. 3-5 min 15:1 games usually. It sucks. Why not just make rainy map with reduced visibility on entire map?

    • @Gabriel-hm7vv
      @Gabriel-hm7vv 3 месяца назад

      There has been worse updates, besides, this is just testing.
      A rainy map with reduced visibility sounds nice though, I think they tested that with the night mode which was really cool. I wish you could use tanks headllights on that mode.

  • @MrMichelangelo
    @MrMichelangelo 3 месяца назад +1

    I think the idea of limited visibility isn't that bad but it needs to be adjusted. Also maybe SPGs should have access to a limited amount of smoke shells. You could encourage spg players by giving them assist bonus whenever an ally is hitting enemy when their tank is hidden in such smoke cover. Also, the smoke coverage area would be much smaller, like I dunno radius of 10m for the largest caliber gun and proportionally smaller for lower caliber guns

  • @DJ67mc
    @DJ67mc 3 месяца назад +7

    I played around 20 battles in the mode, the main issue I feel is the hard cut off on the edges of the weather zones, if vision was simply halved by being inside regardless of where you were viewing from it could be cool. But definitely should be an option like random events.

  • @Idaho86
    @Idaho86 3 месяца назад +1

    It's nice to see WG is trying to shake up gameplay and make some changes. But maybe, just maybe they should focus on making game itself fun and balanced again? Don't get me wrong. WoT was never balanced in a way how esport games are. But in the past you could be compepetive without opening your wallet, more-less. Now, it's pretty much impossible. Sad, really.

  • @LordMax666
    @LordMax666 3 месяца назад +4

    If this comes in and you are not allowed to turn it off, i will stop playing. I enjoy the part of picking a medium, heavy, td or light and play in different ways.

  • @pasocla4845
    @pasocla4845 3 месяца назад +2

    100% agreed! And you forgot to mention that will make it impossible to do some missions with arty,light tanks and TDs those are not optional you have to play those tanks.

  • @theearloffunk7223
    @theearloffunk7223 3 месяца назад +5

    I am all for anything that will get campers moving. I hope this goes into permanent play.

  • @asakarlsson6890
    @asakarlsson6890 3 месяца назад +1

    Im a TD-player and i dont play the game as often like i used to do. Now days i just play when Frontline is on and few battles after it. Becouse WG have made this gam no fun anymore, battles are to fast already and NOW they come up with this!!! OMG WG WHY are you DOING this to us TS-players??? And TY QB for being with us players on this!!!

  • @Rolandtheking
    @Rolandtheking 3 месяца назад +4

    in the current form, i will stop playing if this goes into the random queue. it feels really bad. the weather event is esentially a very tiny map in a map, and not suitable for lights arties and tds wo armour. They should focus on biger maps, or do things like weather reduces top speed and resistances and some viewrange, and then for the whole map, not just a part

  • @shadowcat3163
    @shadowcat3163 3 месяца назад +2

    About 20 games in now. Seeing some interesting possibilities with TD's but arty is fracking useless now. Zoomies in lights and knuckledraggers in heavies benefit, but arty and TD's take yet another hit.

  • @meg_Lepi
    @meg_Lepi 3 месяца назад +3

    18:30
    How would you expect WG to take youre opinion seriously if you only played like once or twice on a new scenario? I think 10 battles is the minimum for someone to be able to make a fair and correct judgment on the matter and have a respectable opinion

    • @neilwilliams4684
      @neilwilliams4684 3 месяца назад +1

      I play mainly Lights and TD's and I knew within 2 games that it wrecked my gameplay and enjoyment. 8 more games would not have made a difference to my opinion.

    • @meg_Lepi
      @meg_Lepi 3 месяца назад

      @neilwilliams4684 maybe youre right, maybe not. I dont know

  • @injusticecombohub2620
    @injusticecombohub2620 3 месяца назад +2

    The storm weather would be welcome if it was only for ascetics visually they are appealing just they should get rid of the weird mechanics that come with them

  • @st3van6
    @st3van6 3 месяца назад +3

    In my opinion WG are adapting to the world going faster and faster, people can't keep their minds for long in games. The tik tok era is here, so WG wants to please the new generation.

  • @TradingTheNews
    @TradingTheNews 3 месяца назад +1

    I think this is a very good ide and i Enjoy recon mode. What i like. It is giving the map new possibility. Late game can be very in intresting. Should be like 1/5 games. But They should make the line in and out better. Make it smoother so the Amx not just disapear. They need to work on this but in i think all in all it will make the game more interesting

  • @Xplorer60
    @Xplorer60 3 месяца назад +4

    I played 1 match yesterday and immediately went back to play crappy random battles

  • @Coelancanth
    @Coelancanth 3 месяца назад +1

    I find it BS that ppl outside the weather could somehow see and shoot at people inside. Especially when a Skoda T50 penned a full mag into me when I was broadside and turning my armor to them. 😐
    Did you also know that maps with two weather zones, you can actually see tanks in the other zone if you are in one? 0.0

  • @PvtSn1pe
    @PvtSn1pe 3 месяца назад +5

    I can't suffer through 50 games, to give my opinion on this, I just really hope it gets massively overhauled.

  • @tl1758
    @tl1758 3 месяца назад +1

    Seems they do not test their own ideas. How stupid that there is a line and 1 cm behind that line the tank is gone :), not gradually disappearing in 10-20-50 meters, but instantly...

  • @danknispel4588
    @danknispel4588 3 месяца назад +5

    As an arty player, this sucks.

  • @aaaa9489
    @aaaa9489 3 месяца назад +1

    with how hard the 260 missions are already and constantly getting more difficult, these weather effects might make some of them statistically impossible

  • @Benjaminbrownbottom3535
    @Benjaminbrownbottom3535 3 месяца назад +6

    This mechanic could maybe work if people can see inside but people inside can't see outside.

    • @cherno8336
      @cherno8336 3 месяца назад +1

      that's just stupid

  • @soopafamicom
    @soopafamicom 3 месяца назад +1

    It's ridiculous.
    I like to mix it up and play different classes, and every game has been 2/3 of the team going to the fog and just fighting in there hoping to be the victors and steamroll up the flank.
    It all comes down to frotal, hull down armour in thewre as the support tanks, td's and arty can do nothing to help.
    All classes are necessary for a game, the tide can be turned by that one arty who is supporting a flank or push, the td that pins down the enemy long enough for them to be flanked.
    Nah, the effects look ok but are gamebreaking.

  • @Ghostick
    @Ghostick 3 месяца назад +1

    6:59 maybe adjusting the threshold within the sandstorm ... from 10-30-50-70%

  • @Duckman1616
    @Duckman1616 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel like Wargaming just hates their own game. They want matches that last no longer than 5 minutes, with tanks that are fast and have crazy DPM on maps that are a quarter of the size they are now.

  • @НиколаВелинов
    @НиколаВелинов 3 месяца назад +2

    Hello. In my opinion, this innovation in the game should be as it is now, be a separate mod, and be played by people who prefer it. It would be a big mistake if they did it in the random battles.

    • @чедавеља
      @чедавеља 3 месяца назад

      No one will play random in that case, just clickers and bush wankers.

  • @jeremyts9032
    @jeremyts9032 3 месяца назад +1

    This has been the plan of wg, they have been nerfing maps for tds and moving into a brain dead brawl type of game

  • @marknagy9958
    @marknagy9958 3 месяца назад +2

    I think if there would not be even spoting, like the tank never disappears but it wont get highlited would make this mechanic and the whole game more realistic and maybe better

  • @Graeme758
    @Graeme758 3 месяца назад +1

    I have played one game, it is crap and I wont be playing any more. If this is released with the option to not have it, like excluding certain battle formats, then I will exclude it. If it's not then I just wont play, simple.

  • @Z4coupeuk
    @Z4coupeuk 3 месяца назад +2

    I had high hopes but it’s AWFUL! Just creates dead spots on the map, no one spots, whole team goes into the zone and battles end in minutes

  • @naglisdargis4038
    @naglisdargis4038 3 месяца назад +2

    I played this, honestly the absolute garbage feature of enemies being invisible if theyre in the fog is really dumb but I believe it will still be changed and adjusted

  • @andrewtaylor3051
    @andrewtaylor3051 3 месяца назад +1

    YES I AGREE I would NOT play WOT if this gets implemented. Good job Wargaming you will loose more players 😡

  • @ЖаркоТодоровићВалтер-щ3х

    This is first time I had fun in wot in quite some time. I don't even mind losing or getting steam rolled, it was fun next game. All this early breakthroughs, fighting in fog and rain, in and out of zones, chasing around the map. It's FUN. I cold do 5k or 0 i don't mind. Next game will be entirely different. But then qb and his comment section comes and yappa yappa it renders tds and arty useless yappa yappa. It just exposes how much you all are accustomed to playing same old boring game where all you do is exploit other people mistakes. Finally something that can recreate that chaotic fun that wot was when i fell in love with it and then yappers came and "I don't like it because.....". God forbid men have fun.

  • @Yazan-ix
    @Yazan-ix 3 месяца назад +2

    i agree with you this mechanic will ruin the game for old and ogs players , but at the same time
    wargaming should add something new to the game the best way to get this to work is to add it as a separate game mode same as onslaught
    so whoever likes to play it can and at the same time random battles stay intact
    this mode could be the result of wargaming trying to bring new players or old players that don't play much if at all , that are looking for fun and new game experience
    that's just my honest opinion
    so the summery is : having this mode as a separate game mode outside the random battles for the people that like to play it or experience it is a good idea
    forcing it in the random battles is a bad idea , that's all

  • @MarkiMcMark
    @MarkiMcMark 3 месяца назад +1

    The random events at least offered some new gameplay opportunities (Ruinberg imo is better thanks to that) bu this is just straightup worsenin the whole experience.
    Even going into the weather zone is just a braindead brawl and I am still not zynical enough to believe that this is what the majority of the player base prefers.
    I am all for adding weather and altered view ranges because of it, but a tank shouldn't be invisible when it is right in front of me and fog does not stop a radio message from getting through.
    Maybe, alternatively, instead of making tanks within the zones completely make them visible but you don't get any extra information. (HP bar, damaged modules etc.) Or any other mechanic really, just not this bs.

  • @joschi1775
    @joschi1775 3 месяца назад +1

    When there are 6 FVs on each team, 3 scouts, 3 artis and like half a heavy, this mode is really fun to me bcs it just says fk you to all the scouts and artis and 12td per side rounds. I dont think wot is good right now just because you get 2k dmg by one shot and then 1k dmg by the arti and you are out bcs the scout from the other side of the map 450 meters away spotted you and an fv was actually not afk in the spawn like every other TD player every,
    And this is not even mentioning the fact the like most T8 Heavy tanks or TDs nowadays have more Alpha Dmg then T10 TDs, i mean who gives a crap about a t110e5 with its 750 Alpha when a BZ176 or Grom will give 800 Alpha to a T6 Tank, just doesnt match to me.
    And Artis overall i think can be removed and nothing bad would happen, a BT arti will stun you for a Minute and a half, reload 45 Seconds and then do it again and if you are lucky it didnt do 3 times 500-1000 dmg. In new game mode Artis are effectivly removed, big Plus in my book.
    Also nowadays there are 3-4, sometimes 5 Scouts on each side, not only spotting everything on the map that doesnt want to be an afk red line TD but also stealing the spot from one another not even making that a good experience.
    The Whole T10 Matchmaking is just son completly unbalanced, every single Medium T10 in the game without Durability device can straight up be one shoted if there is an Fv, but Fv also sucks since you never hit with that thing, frustrating fv players themself and everyone who plays against them since it comes down to straigt up Luck if you get Oneshoted or even hit at all. (Please just remove that tank, T10 TDs are balanced around 750 Alpha, little less then T8 Heavy tanks but thats at least not a One shot).

  • @reh3dzone
    @reh3dzone 3 месяца назад +1

    This is the cheapest way WG can change map tactics without introducing all the reserve maps they refuse to implement.
    I think it's a nice way to change how maps are played so it's not so mindless, mundane, and repetitive on the same old maps.
    I just hope these weather areas have random spam locations on each map.

  • @rokchewerd982
    @rokchewerd982 3 месяца назад +1

    im gonna have to agreee with you about the ghost thing. I love the effects but it needs some sort of transition. Either an increase camo rating and/or decrease view range from effects.

  • @kalewintermute28
    @kalewintermute28 3 месяца назад +1

    Just feels like a buff to armour and heavies but a NERF to everything else.

  • @TenkaFubu
    @TenkaFubu 3 месяца назад +1

    This is amazing and i hope it comes to random battels as soon as possible. Perhaps without the ability to turn it off too, so everyone will play it. That way there will be more players and more fun

  • @meinacco
    @meinacco 3 месяца назад +1

    I know people say this all the time. And I could go on at length to explain my reasoning in detail.
    But for now I will just say: if this goes into standard battles as is then I will simply not play anymore.

  • @TheGbrixey
    @TheGbrixey 3 месяца назад +1

    I've had so much fun playing in this mode that this is a little shocking to hear. It's not going to kill anything but it is going to cause a complete rework of how you play with those zones in effect. can you run a heavy into the middle of those areas and be invisible from the outside, but you're also stuck in there with whoever shows up and at close range so if it's two meds or a light flanking you all the time good luck! I love having to come up with new strats and this will absolutely force that.

  • @B9scrambler
    @B9scrambler 3 месяца назад +1

    The vision mechanics in this game are so idiotic and broken...