Why you need Crash Bars on your R1200GS Adventure
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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No one is paying me to write this. AltRider has proven itself with their crash bars repeated abuse and these things are still in place. They have a customer for life.
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Yes, the OEM BMW crash bars have a serious design flaw. They “cradle” the cylinder from below, but they can bend up in a crash. I installed the Touratech crash bar support that strengthens the OEM crash bar by connecting it to the frame above the cylinder. Several tipovers on hard dirt/gravel and the bars haven’t moved even 1mm! Worth the money, super easy to install...and MUCH cheaper than swapping out with a whole new set! Just my 2¢...
Same thing I see every time people drop their bikes, they go really quick and pick it up - all stressed out. After years of riding, I've learned to take a moment, assess your body first, assess the bike's position and situation, breath in and relax. Whatever happened, take your time, as picking up the bike way too quick without thinking can be very dangerous. Also, whatever brand of bars you have, get the head extension on and this will solve your problem. I got the Touratech extension for my OEM bars, and I've dropped it many times with no damage. Cheers.
Drop it again...and again...and again...etc... You crash so much you need a roll cage. HaHaHa. Glad you survived the self inflicted mayhem! Don't worry about the bike, I read somewhere it is insured.
I have the Stock GSA bars but installed the aftermarket support and my bike has been through serious rocks, personal opinion is they work just fine with the additional support preventing them from pushing in
That's the solution for most people. The support bars are great and will probably outlast the bike.
Mad props I love watching your progression
WHAT A JOURNEY! My first time riding a motorcycle is also on here - ruclips.net/video/QjWzqvHkcXo/видео.html That was only March of 2016.
I'm glad you posted this. It makes me feel better about all the crashes and resulting scratches and chips I have accumulated on my new Honda Adventure Sports. I run Outback Motortek on mine. Altrider did not have a crash bar for my bike at the time. But the OMs are damn hardy.
I am very glad to see you are using and enjoying your BMW in the way for which it was designed. People often cringe at some of my crash bar scratches and other minor dents and dings, I mention its not a Goldwing or Harley its a GSA "Adventure" Bike. Stay safe
Thanks vance. These bikes can take a beating and keep going. I love the GS. Never stranded me and starts every time even after some pretty rough falls.
You have no idea my friend!!
Thanks for sharing. I see your experience as what I would expect for me if I were to get a 1200GS. Short legs and a high COG are not a good mix, especially when you've got the terrain throwing all sorts of variables at you.
The 1200 has a low centre of gravity, that's one of its key strength... but yeah, it's heavy!
I wonder if the crash bar had some rollers, you might bounce back and keep going.
Great idea!
Thank you for sharing with us your experience!
I hope it was entertaining.
Awesome video man. The Altrider bars cost a good chunk of change but are clearly worth it. You are taking full advantage of the GS! I really like your head covers too. Seen a few of your videos and I like how descriptive you are. Keep on posting rad videos!!
This makes me angry that BMW, of all motorcycle manufacturers, can't deliver a proven crash bar. How many riders out there put the OEM bars on thinking they're adequately protected?
Yeah, what a crappy company. I'm sure they intended and tested the crash bars to be hit again, and again, and again. Maybe he should sue them, then use the money to learn how not to drop a $20K bike 10+ times.
You are resilient AF
I definitely don't drop the bike as much anymore.
A regular ole Evel Knievel. Looks like you should be on a 1090 or an Africa Twin.
Dropped my GSA Triple black this week in Scotland. Thank heaven for the crash bars. Saved the day.
Great vid, glad your ok! And that’s how we learn! Respect!!! Ride safe…
Thanks!
Just goes to show again that this motorcycle is too heavy for heavy offroad action and some drivers
Great series of videos on your crashes and insurance negotiations. I admire you for riding a GSA in some places I wouldn't even want to fly over in a helicopter!
Thank you for keepin it real. No edit cheating! Good work and keep it up! I will suscribe
Usually people complain my videos are too long. Thanks for watching!
Omg that 2:04 bro
What in the world 🤣
Also a strong argument at the end there for keeping a set of needle-nosed Vice Grips in your tool roll. Glad you were able to ride Black Betty home, and am enjoying following your build-out of Rosie on Advrider.
Thanks and yep, grips are on my every time I ride now.
OEM crash bars are a compromise. The BMW bars are like crumple zones. They’re designed to give/move, so that the forces are not fully transferred to the all-important frame. Their job is to protect the cylinder heads from one semi-decent fall (because if you hole a head casing it can’ be ridden home), without writing off the frame. I.e. The whole motorcycle. The big GSA can be ridden at moderate speeds off-road, with a moderately competent off-road rider aboard, in moderately good weather and on moderately good surfaces. But for serious off-road fun, either a more off-road focused bike like a KTM 250 EX, or a light and cheap bike that you don’t mind getting scratched to bits, is obviously the way to go. Don’t believe the “Unstoppable" marketing hype, it's called a crash for a reason.
Man I feel your experiences. The front end on the GS bikes really is prone to tucking, especially in loose stuff. As for the crash bars, my 2 cents - I'd rather have a weaker crash bar vs a crash bar that is stronger then the frame its connected to. If there is a point of failure let it be the crash bar. I take my GSA into similar places but tend to go slower as the Mrs is usually on the back.
Sucks about writing the bike off, could have been much worse though. Did you hit loose stuff, touch a beg down or the tires just give way?
Ref your last comment ATGATT….I gotta point out the lack of gloves in one of your trail clips, lol ; )
Was going to mention the "gloves" as well...for the rest awesome riding and filming, cioa from Rob from the Netherlands riding a Ducati Hypermotard 1100 - 2007
Thanks a lot Adam for sharing these images! “ALWAYS Drive safe and well equipped” : that’s the right message! And that’s my attitude too!
That's a nice video. I have the same worries because of the weight and that bike it's too tall for me.
IT is a LOT of bike. Mine weighs 670 pounds before I put on boxes.
THANK'S for spare you r experience. 👍👍👍
I think it is great that you drop the bike often. It means you're really using it to the limits for which it was designed. There was one drop on the video where you weren't wearing your gloves, tsk-tsk.
I sometimes do that off road. Really hot days and I take the gloves off and due to sweat, can’t get them back on.
Hi Adam, very interesting, how bad were the crashes you had when you had the OEM bars on?
Remind me to never buy one of the bikes you have used! Haha! Glad you are OK after all those tumbles, some of this small ones looked the worst. Any tips on when you go down like what to do with your hands? Glad to see you really using that bike.
The bikes are not that abused. The motors are strong. Just stay on top of maintenance. Don’t catch yourself, try to get out from under the bike when you are crashing and don’t worry about saving it. Once it’s going down, get away don’t try to stop it.
A lighter bike is the key. The 1200 might be okay for light off-road, but not for sport off-roading.
Forget the Bourbon, man! 😁
Your trade in value is going to be like mine
That's okay. I had fun and used the bike for its intended purpose.
It seems these big maxitrails are too heavy for hard offloading. It seems if you want a dual purpose to do some offroad it should be something lighter, a 800 or similar
How did the x head covers fair out ?? Were they worth installing ??
Xheads have been fantastic. I'm on one X-Head set for 30K miles. They're very scratched up but not punctured or unusable.
@@AdamChandler86 excellent to head that I'm looking for somewhere in Europe to buy a set for the GS because it kind of expensive with the shipping from America and we can't deal with anyone in the UK anymore because of the Brexit bulshit so if I can find someone in Ireland or somewhere in Europe I'll buy a set this week !! Thanks for getting back to me it's very much appreciated mate it wa a great review 👍👍
What tires do you usually use? Have you changed tires as a result of your crashing experiences for improved traction on gravel, dirt/mud, or asphalt?
I've tried a lot of tires but honestly, I crash a lot less now since I mostly ride a dirt bike on serious trails and my skills in managing the big ADV bike have gotten a lot better. Last 2 weekends of off-roading on the GS, didn't drop it once.
What tyres were you running on the bike ??
Depends, TKC80s, AX41s, MOTOZ-Tractionators and Anakee Wilds. I prefer the MOTOZ.
Too bulky and heavy for offroading
Thanks for sharing!
What happened at 5:34? Slippy road or what?
Good stuff.
Hi, how do you rate the Doubletake mirrors?
They've been really great. I think I've used them for about 5 years. No complaints at all.
Love your frankness, you are humble and honest, I must not be that knowledgeable in regards to off road adventure riding, but damn, Your a human crash test dumbie....Only kidding and glad your OK to talk about it.Nice work Mr. CLVLND OH
Maaan.... Change your tiers... It's so fun)))
I feel like you are doing it on purpose, why do you hate your bike so much hahaha
I don't drop the bike as much these days and have become a better rider but still...crash bars are a pretty high importance for me.
Insted of a Crash Bars Buy a enduro bike. That way you will never destroy your expensive GS again. I Have a GS and a KTM ECX
Feels like these heavy bikes are just made to crash
Even pro riders can't handle it
stabilisers ........?
The LC GS after 2014 comes equipped with a steering stabilizer but it is not adjustable or progressive. I have since this video, installed an adjustable / progressive damper from HyperPro that has 24 clicks of adjustability.
@@AdamChandler86 Adam- You probably know all of this, but from the vid, it looks like you should stand up more (all the time off road) ride slow enough to anticipate the terrain: especially in deep muddy ruts. Nice trails btw....!
I ride both ways. Something to keep in mind about this compilation. My first motorcycle in 2016 was an R1200GS Adventure and I'm on my 3rd one and do a lot of training and riding since then. So the compilation starts literally when I first started riding. I haven't dropped the bike off road in quite a while since this video.
@@AdamChandler86 Ahh, ok, understood. Carry on enjoying it! looking fwd to getting back on the trails here in 'post brexit, covid britain'!
Thanks for watching.
Ur manhandling the bike let it do it’s thing it will make it through...the bars are suppose to give a little to save the frame...
What should i do when i drop my r1200gs and keep runing? Should i stop it of keep it runing and left it up?
First priority for me is engine shut-off. On newer models (2016 and newer) there is an engine cut off when the bike has a hard fall / crash. On two of my crashes, the engine has cut off automatically. Obviously if you're hurt, don't move but the bike is not meant to run on its side, Oil in the pan will flow into the left cylinder starving the right and can lead to a lot of mechanical issues. After the bike is upside down for a bit with motor off, flip it back over and let it sit upright for 10 minutes to let the oil go back down into the bottom of the motor. After you restart, you'll have some white smoke coming from the exhaust. This will go away after a few miles.